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posted by mrpg on Monday March 18 2019, @06:05AM   Printer-friendly
from the backup-is-not-a-choice dept.

Myspace Lost all the Music its Users Uploaded Between 2003 and 2015:

It's been a year since the music links on Myspace stopped working; at first the company insisted that they were working on it, but now they've admitted that all those files are lost: "As a result of a server migration project, any photos, videos, and audio files you uploaded more than three years ago may no longer be available on or from Myspace. We apologize for the inconvenience and suggest that you retain your back up copies. If you would like more information, please contact our Data Protection Officer, Dr. Jana Jentzsch at DPO@myspace.com."

Yeah, apparently they don't have a backup.

Just another reminder that "cloud" means: someone else's computer(s).


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Monday March 18 2019, @06:08AM (5 children)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Monday March 18 2019, @06:08AM (#816279)

    The other example being Photobucket: millions of people uploaded their photos there to share them on other internet forums, and one day PB decided they had enough and broke half all the internet.

    Yeah cloud...

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by driverless on Monday March 18 2019, @07:24AM (3 children)

      by driverless (4770) on Monday March 18 2019, @07:24AM (#816305)

      OTOH for the typical user with a never-backed-up PC built from the cheapest white-box crap the vendor could find running some crusty old version of Windows with Flash, Adobe Acrobat, Java, and a pile of shovelware (all unpatched) on them, the cloud is probably the most reliable and safest part of the system.

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @07:36AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @07:36AM (#816311)

        «PC built from the cheapest white-box»
        Nowadays they are black-box, literally and metaphorically. :D

        CYA

        • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Monday March 18 2019, @04:47PM

          by acid andy (1683) on Monday March 18 2019, @04:47PM (#816491) Homepage Journal

          But my box was black before it was cool...

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      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday March 18 2019, @05:42PM

        by Freeman (732) on Monday March 18 2019, @05:42PM (#816534) Journal

        You say that, but I have systems with original drives that are 17+ years old. The venerable Thinkpad A21m tanks/laptops. A user in this day and age, needs to know that photos or other data types they can't replace, has to be in multiple places. Otherwise, they are one mouse click away from total and irrevocable data loss.

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        Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
    • (Score: 2) by fyngyrz on Monday March 18 2019, @04:00PM

      by fyngyrz (6567) on Monday March 18 2019, @04:00PM (#816455) Journal

      From TFS:

      Just another reminder that "cloud" means: someone else's computer(s).

      Cloud:

      • Can't Locate Our User's Documents
      • Creatively Loaning Out User's Data
      • Callously Leaking Oblivious User's Details
      • Crappy, Leaky, Ojectionable, Usurious Depository

      etc...

      --
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      Old lady #2: You're rolling them too tight.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @06:15AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @06:15AM (#816280)

    Dontcha just looove corp speak?

  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Monday March 18 2019, @06:29AM (4 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 18 2019, @06:29AM (#816288) Journal

    Was anything really "lost"? I remember being given a link, the page opening up, and I might want to puke, or I might wonder if I were epileptic, or it was just so revolting . . .

    Yeah, I guess MySpace has cleaned up it's act some, since then. But I've very seldom had any desire to go back and look.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @11:19AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @11:19AM (#816339)

      Was anything really "lost"?

      Likely. While probably 99% of all lost items were crap, pure statistics say that there has to have been some good stuff there. And since there's no perfect correlation between the ability to produce good stuff and the foresight to keep local backups, this means that statistically, some of those valuable items got lost.

    • (Score: 2) by stretch611 on Monday March 18 2019, @02:24PM (2 children)

      by stretch611 (6199) on Monday March 18 2019, @02:24PM (#816399)

      Was anything actually NOT lost?

      Considering the fact that no one has used MySpace in the last decade, are there any images left if only the last 3 years were saved?

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      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday March 18 2019, @05:45PM (1 child)

        by Freeman (732) on Monday March 18 2019, @05:45PM (#816536) Journal

        Contrary to popular belief, MySpace isn't 100% dead. It's just mostly dead.

        --
        Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 19 2019, @01:23PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 19 2019, @01:23PM (#816932)

          Does it twitch if you poke it with a stick?

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by c0lo on Monday March 18 2019, @06:35AM (13 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 18 2019, @06:35AM (#816293) Journal

    Just ask the NSA for a copy!

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    • (Score: 4, Funny) by MostCynical on Monday March 18 2019, @06:54AM (10 children)

      by MostCynical (2589) on Monday March 18 2019, @06:54AM (#816296) Journal

      Don't they,officially,only keep stuff that might be related to crime?

      --
      "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
      • (Score: 3, Funny) by BsAtHome on Monday March 18 2019, @07:10AM (2 children)

        by BsAtHome (889) on Monday March 18 2019, @07:10AM (#816300)

        Don't they,officially,only keep stuff that might be related to crime?

        What is your point?

        /s

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by c0lo on Monday March 18 2019, @07:15AM

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 18 2019, @07:15AM (#816302) Journal

          I believe he has not only a point, but a whole curve. And he went on a tangent to it here. (grin)

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        • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Monday March 18 2019, @07:45AM

          by MostCynical (2589) on Monday March 18 2019, @07:45AM (#816318) Journal

          "I'd like to report a crime.. Not sure exactly when.. Between 2003 and 2015. Evidence? Oh, in file.. Photo? Maybe video or sound recording..

          Yes, I wore paisley while singing Carpenters"

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          "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday March 18 2019, @07:13AM (3 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 18 2019, @07:13AM (#816301) Journal

        Forgive my ignorance, isn't using social media a crime yet?

        If not, one can ask them for the backup unofficially.

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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by MostCynical on Monday March 18 2019, @07:41AM

          by MostCynical (2589) on Monday March 18 2019, @07:41AM (#816316) Journal

          Crime: being twenty years behind the current fad.

          --
          "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @12:10PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @12:10PM (#816358)

          Soon not using social media will be a crime.

          What, citizen, you want privacy? You must be one of those subversives; off to the camps with you.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 19 2019, @01:26PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 19 2019, @01:26PM (#816935)

            I wish I had a Depressing option for moderation.

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by driverless on Monday March 18 2019, @07:27AM

        by driverless (4770) on Monday March 18 2019, @07:27AM (#816306)

        Don't they,officially,only keep stuff that might be related to crime?

        Yup. Everyone's a potential criminal all of the time, so they keep everything related to that.

      • (Score: 2) by istartedi on Monday March 18 2019, @07:38AM

        by istartedi (123) on Monday March 18 2019, @07:38AM (#816313) Journal

        MySpace was definitely a crime.

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      • (Score: 3, Funny) by choose another one on Monday March 18 2019, @12:09PM

        by choose another one (515) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 18 2019, @12:09PM (#816357)

        > Don't they,officially,only keep stuff that might be related to crime?

        Whether or not they have your stuff is less important than whether or not they will expend the effort to get your stuff for you.

        I'm ok, all my myspace stuff was backup up on an upload site, just need to remember where, mega-something I think....

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by coolgopher on Monday March 18 2019, @11:27AM

      by coolgopher (1157) on Monday March 18 2019, @11:27AM (#816342)

      Nah, this was music and video files, you'll need to check in with the RIAA and MPAA mafias for those.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @10:45PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @10:45PM (#816682)

      And if the NSA won't cough it up, check Brewster's site -- the Wayback Machine at archive.org

      What I want to know is who backs up archive.org ?

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @07:38AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @07:38AM (#816312)

    This reminds me that soon is the World Backup Day :)
    http://www.worldbackupday.com [worldbackupday.com]

    CYA

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @11:22AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @11:22AM (#816340)

      How do I backup the world, how do I store the backup (it obviously has to be outside of the world), and how do I restore the world after it got destroyed?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @12:13PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @12:13PM (#816360)

        No worries, the world is currently fully backed up on Earth 2: Electric Bugaloo, conveniently located on the opposite side of the Sun.

        Restoration procedures have unfortunately not been fully tested as of yet.

      • (Score: 2) by rigrig on Tuesday March 19 2019, @11:50AM

        by rigrig (5129) Subscriber Badge <soylentnews@tubul.net> on Tuesday March 19 2019, @11:50AM (#816905) Homepage

        Thank you for demonstrating how people only start to think about backups when it's too late [qntm.org].

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        No one remembers the singer.
      • (Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Tuesday March 19 2019, @09:06PM

        by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Tuesday March 19 2019, @09:06PM (#817130) Journal

        One atom at a time.

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        This sig for rent.
    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday March 18 2019, @11:47AM

      by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Monday March 18 2019, @11:47AM (#816351) Journal

      Not sure if "see ya" or "cover your ass"...

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @07:44AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @07:44AM (#816317)

    What that?

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by isostatic on Monday March 18 2019, @09:37AM (1 child)

    by isostatic (365) on Monday March 18 2019, @09:37AM (#816331) Journal

    Good, deleting your information (especially if someone else has posted it) from "the cloud" is pretty much impossible. I hope facebook goes the same way in 10 years.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @03:16PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @03:16PM (#816424)

      Unlikely. Look how long it took GeoCities and Yahoo to finally die.

  • (Score: 2) by Bot on Monday March 18 2019, @11:38AM (1 child)

    by Bot (3902) on Monday March 18 2019, @11:38AM (#816346) Journal

    Somebody following their corporate mission. Emptying space, all yours.

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    Account abandoned.
    • (Score: 2) by rob_on_earth on Monday March 18 2019, @12:48PM

      by rob_on_earth (5485) on Monday March 18 2019, @12:48PM (#816369) Homepage

      It would be interesting to know how much money they saved by not requiring all that disk space.

      Though, knowing MySpace they would have had bought all the hardware and self hosted... Hey I remember when that is what we all did!

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @01:05PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @01:05PM (#816379)

    Considering all of the embarrassing stuff on Myspace, this is a good thing. It wiped the slate clean for many people, now they no longer have to worry about that embarrasing myspace account they created when they were 18. I am sure many wish the same would happen to Facebook.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by bradley13 on Monday March 18 2019, @01:10PM (1 child)

    by bradley13 (3053) on Monday March 18 2019, @01:10PM (#816381) Homepage Journal

    Do old internet services never die? I had no idea that MySpace even still existed...

    That said, it is (well, was) a big service, so what's with the lack of backups? I understand it when Joe Sixpack doesn't have backups, but an IT company?

    ...reading... I see that MySpace does still exist, if barely. They had a data breech in 2016, and they hadn't even bothered to salt their users' passwords. So I suppose a lack of backups fits right in.

    --
    Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
    • (Score: 2, Touché) by khallow on Monday March 18 2019, @03:28PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 18 2019, @03:28PM (#816432) Journal

      Do old internet services never die?

      Well everything before the last three years just died on MySpace.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @03:32PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @03:32PM (#816434)

    We keep asking what happens if it fails.
    Yammer was offline for hours. Office went down. So no they can't promise us the uptime we need.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @04:12PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @04:12PM (#816465)

      If you're left standing in the rain, remember that the rain always comes from a cloud.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 19 2019, @02:06PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 19 2019, @02:06PM (#816953)

        And flooding always comes from an identifiable source.

        Yet your point is taken: I can always build a dam, a levee, or otherwise shore up what I have on the ground. I can't control the rain reliably. This year.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @09:31PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @09:31PM (#816643)

      Wrong. They can promise you 100% uptime.

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by The Shire on Monday March 18 2019, @04:17PM

    by The Shire (5824) on Monday March 18 2019, @04:17PM (#816468)

    I can relate - I'm still waiting for Geocities to bring my website back up.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @05:00PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @05:00PM (#816497)

    Nice.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @09:35PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 18 2019, @09:35PM (#816647)

      Don't you love it when corporations turn into trolls.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 19 2019, @03:09AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 19 2019, @03:09AM (#816772)

    They can tell you practically anything and you have to accept it. For all we know, nothing was ever lost and they have multiple backups in multiple locations.

    This is a good way to wipe history and rewrite it, the way the khazar jewish rats want.

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