Free speech has potentially been taken down another peg in NZ with a woman arrested for a Facebook post about the Christchurch shootings. The woman has been arrested on suspicion of "inciting racial disharmony" after a message was posted to her Facebook page. She faces a maximum penalty of three months’ imprisonment or a NZ$7000 fine and living in a society that condemns free speech. However, given the recent ruling in Australia that 'Muslim' is not a 'race' she may get off given that the law she is accused of breaking is of one who “publishes or distributes written matter which is threatening, abusive, or insulting” to other people . This means that it may very well be legal at this time to insult people of a specific religion.
Decades ago they relied on neighbors to find subversives; now they just check social media.
[Ed.: The above is a paraphrase of the linked-to story, not a direct quote, and with submitter's editorialising left in. -- FP (honouring people's right to free speech ;-) )]
Also covered by the NZ Herald.
(Score: -1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @10:06PM (25 children)
Just saying it while I can, in case they decide Mohammedans are indeed a 'race' and not just a social club.
Don't mod me down if you believe in free speech.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @10:09PM (2 children)
I give the finger to zealots of all of shapes, sizes, and creeds.
(Score: 3, Funny) by krishnoid on Friday March 29 2019, @10:17PM (1 child)
You're both doing it wrong -- how many <denomination> does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
(Score: 5, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday March 29 2019, @10:21PM
Just two, but it has to be a really big one, and ideally well-padded so it doesn't break.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 5, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Friday March 29 2019, @10:48PM (17 children)
I'm all about free speech, friend. While I did not downmod you (I would have, but you were already at -1), downmods are most certainly not about censorship.
They are a subjective rating of the comment being modded (whether up or down). I can't speak for others, but I always read at -1 so I can see all the posts, even the broad-brush tarring of others with nasty comments.
I imagine you had some half-assed idea about what free speech actually is. Well, you're wrong. Someone telling you that they think you're a troll for spouting off with crap like that isn't anti-free speech, it's free speech in action. Get a clue, asshole!
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @11:24PM (16 children)
Spoken like a true SJW.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @11:31PM (4 children)
What does a sphincter say?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:16AM (3 children)
What does a sphincter say?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Saturday March 30 2019, @07:07AM (2 children)
I think this was answered by the grandparent post:
And you posted in response? Logically, that means you are the asshole, and all, well at least most, assholes have sphincters, so our inquiry is at an end. Are you going to insist on replication of results, to be sure? Party on, Dude!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @08:38AM (1 child)
whoooosh.
The answer to "what does a sphincter say?" is "what does a sphincter say?".
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @10:48AM
That sounds suspiciously like what a sphincter might say, in response to the question, "What does a sphincter say?"
And if your sphincter goes "whooosh" too much, try to cut down on the beans and popcorn. And the kale.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Friday March 29 2019, @11:40PM (10 children)
If by "SJW" you mean "promoter of free speech," then yes.
if by "SJW" you mean some kind of pejorative, I feel pity for you that you can't do any better.
Either way, please do carry on. Your speech is just as free as anyone else's, even if you're the poster child for this old saw [quoteinvestigator.com].
Have a lovely evening!
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 4, Insightful) by aristarchus on Saturday March 30 2019, @07:22AM (9 children)
Strange, is it not, that some think that social justice would not include freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and all the things that go with that. So, if you are opposed to social justice, you are in favor of social injustice, and you are a Loyalist, a Fascist, a NobHobbler, a Monarchist, a Catholic, or Polish. In any of these cases, you are a Reactionary, and your case is already lost. King? Who made you king, then? I didn't vote for you!" [youtube.com]
Or, do you think that light skinned idiots are somehow superior to the Slavs and Celts? [ssoar.info]
Fascism seeks to impose the values of a dead society upon the living, using the power of the state, and thus it is doomed to fail. It is always a minority movement, like the 12% that support Trump, and the 35% that support Brexit, and the 2% that support the National Front, and the .05% that support Poland's anti-women legislation. They are going down, even without the help of Captain America, who, by the way, is a Social Justice Warrior.
(Score: 3, Disagree) by Phoenix666 on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:13PM (4 children)
That's not what "social justice" has come to mean, my friend. If you break it down, and ask anyone, "Do you believe in freedom of speech? Equal justice under law?" and so on, you will be hard pressed to find anyone who will disagree. In
America or nearly any Western society, at least, you will find those values almost universally supported. So social justice is esteemed. "Social justice," however, is not.
"Social justice" is actually a lightly re-skinned version of the playbook the Left has been running for 30 years, which is to silence anyone whose ideas they don't like by branding them "racist" or "sexist" or some other pejorative generally indicative of bigotry. It builds on the success of Zionists' use of the tactic of branding anyone who disagrees with them an "anti-Semite" to extract political, economic, and social concessions. It has worked for a long time with a lot of people.
Recently its wheels have been coming off. Specifically, #MeToo exposed the hypocrisy of those in the media and Hollywood who have been calling everyone else misogynist, et cetera; AntiFa and the attempted assassination of Rep. Steve Scalise at a congressional baseball game have shattered the conceit that it's people on the Right who are the violent ones; and the inevitable gyres of intersectional identity politics have bent around to bite feminists and LGBT advocates in the ass as transgender advocates and muslims have displaced them or destroyed decades of their gains. Meanwhile, the hubris, the smarmy narcissism, the snide pontification, have, nevertheless, continued undiminished.
Given those things, it points up how restrained everyone else has actually been in merely calling them "social justice warriors." I can think of far worse expressions of scorn that spring lightly to my lips, because they purpose nothing to do with actual social justice or the commonweal.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @02:49PM
Lawl, speaking of smarmy narcissism
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @03:41PM
In all things it is important to see what the actions of individuals espousing said ideology really are. After all , the DPRK really isn't democratic and the soviet union had a bitchin constitution. Authoritarians of all stripes love to hide behind lofty terms. I've come to realize that many official titles in governance and large organization actually do the exact opposite of what they claim. So today's social justice warriors say they are for free speech and equality while mocking "freeze peach" and trying to get their in group into a position of dominance.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by aristarchus on Saturday March 30 2019, @07:11PM
So, SJW just means too much social justice? Insisting that everyone be treated with dignity and respect is a step too far? What about the rights of discriminating religions to relegate queers and Methodists to hell? What about the right of closeted gay people to pray away the gay by not baking wedding cakes? What about the right to a standard of living, education, and medical care that is a mark of an actual respect for an individual as an end-in-itself? Sorry, Phoenix, the Left is not "the other side", it is the right side, the side of justice.
Now is the time to bring up the Soviet Union, the persecution of VLM, the agony of the jmorris! "Oh, the injustice that the unjust are not allowed to freely practice their injustice! Fie upon thee, SJWs! Fie!"
(Score: 5, Insightful) by AthanasiusKircher on Sunday March 31 2019, @12:24AM
Here's the thing: I actually agree with a lot of what you said. Zionists do have success partially by branding anyone who questions Israeli policy as "anti-Semitic," and that's a serious problem of ad hominem. And some on the Left have done similar things to simply call someone "bigoted" rather than engage in serious discussion.
But I neither agree with the Left nor the Right -- both of which tend be full of BS at times, as you are here a bit. Because SJW is precisely the same sort of BS ad hominem term to shut down discussion as "anti-Semite" is to the Zionists.
So, make your points, but realize your hypocrisy. Not all who are concerned about anti-Semitism are blind Zionists with an agenda -- they may be legitimately concerned about places where Jews are legitimately still targeted for discrimination, aggression, etc. Similarly, not everyone who argues against sexism or racism or whatever is also just out to yell at conservatives. Despite the Right's narrative, there is still serious racism and sexism in the world. MeToo has gone too far in some cases, but it has also revealed SERIOUS and PERVASIVE issues in how women are still treated in mainstream society, especially by many men in power.
One can be concerned about legitimate sexism and racism without blindly labeling every non-liberal a "bigot."
Meanwhile, SJW is a lazy cop-out, used to brand and denigrate rather than to promote rational argument. Call out the Zionists for their flaws and rhetoric, but then look in the mirror.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday March 30 2019, @02:32PM (2 children)
12% that support Trump. The talk show host asked yesterday, "When was the last time a politician packed a stadium, and had tens of thousands standing outside wanting in?" Which part of "populist" did you fail to understand.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @06:59PM (1 child)
Nuremberg, 1938?
(Score: 3, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Sunday March 31 2019, @01:55AM
Was that a democrat, a republican, or "other"?
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @05:28PM
There are already statues of Trump on Mars, and you think only 12% of Americans support him?
https://www.ufosightingsdaily.com/2016/07/donald-trump-face-found-on-mars-in-nasa.html [ufosightingsdaily.com]
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @01:39AM (1 child)
But DO mod him down if you don't like bigots!!
You realize that downmods don't make your comment disappear right? I mean you couldn't possibly be THAT dumb RIGHT?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday March 30 2019, @02:37PM
Like that damned cat, your question is both true and not true, alive and not alive. No, downmods don't make the comment "disappear" - it doesn't get erased from the hard drive (or whatever medium Soylent servers write data to). But, we all know that downmods make comments "invisible" to people who browse at zero, or +1 or even higher. If you need more info, email shroedinger@gmail.com (wonder if that's a legit email addy? I'm tempted to send a message to find out.)
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @01:22PM
I have never seen a -1 insightful mod
Well done!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @01:14PM
Mohammedans?
Around here they are called kafirophobes. People with an unreasonable or excessive fear of non-muslims.
This may or may not be correct. If you have read the koran you would know exactly what muslims intend to do to the peoples of the world. It is sickening. Having fear of such people is normal. it does not mean a person has a phobia.
Considering that the people suffering from kafirophobia have effectively declared war on the world then is their fear of their enemies justified? If a person strokes their own fear is it still a phobia or is it something else? When will mainsteam media call them out for being kafirophobes?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by drussell on Friday March 29 2019, @10:10PM (17 children)
As an aside...
I would love to see more submissions with original, submitter-written summaries (inflammatory or not :) ) rather than just simple quotes from an article with a link.
(Score: 2, Touché) by nitehawk214 on Friday March 29 2019, @10:18PM (9 children)
The submission is so badly worded and formatted that I have no idea what is the paraphrase and what is the commentary.
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
(Score: 3, Funny) by drussell on Friday March 29 2019, @10:21PM (8 children)
I didn't say that this particular summary was exemplary in any way, only that I appreciate when submitters take the time to actually at least make an attempt at a summary instead of just directly quoting a paragraph or two with a link. :)
(Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Friday March 29 2019, @10:32PM (5 children)
How many summaries can you fit on an ice skating rink?
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @11:03PM
Diagonally, like tiny frogs, or covering the entire surface, or only the inbounds playing area, exclusive of goals?
(Score: 2, Interesting) by nitehawk214 on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:02AM (3 children)
Olympic sized or NHL?
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
(Score: 3, Informative) by drussell on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:54AM (2 children)
RandomFactor didn't specify an ice hockey rink... only an ice skating rink.
An ice skating rink could be virtually any size.
For example, when operational during the winter months, the skating rink in Olympic Plaza by City Hall in downtown Calgary is a reasonably high percentage of the centre portion of the entire 1.2 hectare plaza site. A skating rink on a frozen lake could potentially be substantially larger. A typical community rink (of which we might typically several hundred throughout the city in any given winter) might be substantially smaller... Ditto for a backyard rink.
Oh, and THEN there are the hockey rinks... ;-)
(Score: 3, Funny) by dry on Saturday March 30 2019, @06:42AM (1 child)
Err, if there is ice, then it is a hockey rink, or multiple hockey rinks. If there isn't ice, then the lacrosse box becomes the hockey rink. Shit we used to play in the empty pool in the park. You are right about the size being very dynamic.
(Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Monday April 01 2019, @05:59PM
Also, if there isn't ice, it might be a pond or a lake.
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:15PM (1 child)
I find the practice of adding one's own spin to an article summary scandalous and most inadvisable.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday March 30 2019, @02:53PM
This is 'Murica - we love our scandals.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 5, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Friday March 29 2019, @10:21PM (3 children)
It seems to me that having quoted submissions (certainly with added info, as well as questions, leading or otherwise) makes much more sense, as it gives folks a place to start in terms of the five 'W's [wikipedia.org], rather than just someone's opinion about a particular topic.
The comments section, on the other hand, is a *great* place for opinions. And if you have a topic that you can't fit your opinion into a particular story, then post a journal entry.
Free speech is fabulous and I'm all for it. However, this is a human-powered "news aggregation [wikipedia.org] and discussion site." If we get rid of the first part, I suspect the second part will suffer greatly.
But thank you for your thoughts and opinions! I'm glad to see they were in the comments and not a brand-new post.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 5, Informative) by drussell on Friday March 29 2019, @10:27PM (2 children)
Notice that I said I appreciate (at least an attempt at) an originally written summary, not that it should be transformed into an editorial opinion piece. That, indeed, would belong in the comments.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by NotSanguine on Friday March 29 2019, @10:34PM
So you did. I misinterpreted your post. My apologies.
It seems that we are actually in full agreement. Good show and well done!
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 2, Funny) by nitehawk214 on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:21AM
I agree. Commentary belongs in the comments. (See what I did there?)
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @10:22PM (2 children)
Those would be aristarchus submissions, and those are not allowed at the basturdization of free speech, SoylentFauxNews. This FS is embarrassing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @05:42AM (1 child)
Please don't compare me with AC.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @07:24AM
And don't compare me with aristarchus. No one compares with aristarchus. His submissions are perfect. He has a Golden Thigh, as did Pythagoras, another son of Samos.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @10:14PM (18 children)
It's not clear what the alleged crime is. She called somebody a "target"? Context is missing.
For this kind of thing, I believe it would be more fruitful to make first-time offenders take courses on toleration. Jail will just make bitter people be more bitter.
(Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Friday March 29 2019, @10:23PM
It's a filthy plot to make you read TFA [nzherald.co.nz]. I guess the Herald is especially hard-up for advertising dollars.
Unfortunately for them, I use ad blockers.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 4, Interesting) by NotSanguine on Friday March 29 2019, @10:30PM (7 children)
Then again, I just read (the very thin) TFA, and I still don't understand exactly what "offensive" thing was said:
The bolded sections above are the only reference to the "offense." Perhaps I'm a little dense, but I'm still not sure what all the ruckus is about.
TFA is almost as fact-free as TFS. Good show!
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 3, Interesting) by https on Friday March 29 2019, @11:34PM (5 children)
It's almost as if the reporters are hesitant to repeat something that could be found to be criminal hate speech.
I mean, really, do you also expect people charged with CP offenses to have their desktop background reprinted on page five?
Offended and laughing about it.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by NotSanguine on Friday March 29 2019, @11:44PM (2 children)
No. But as someone who lives in a place where just about all speech is protected, it seems strange to me that (especially) news organizations wouldn't provide real details.
A little bit of culture shock, I guess. If/when I visit New Zealand, I guess I'll have to grow an internal editor.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:57AM (1 child)
it seems strange to me that (especially) news organizations wouldn't provide real details.
It's best to keep the story vague, so their narrative doesn't fall apart. The case they constructed is more frail than an Indian T-shirt factory.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @08:11AM
Dot or Feather?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by lars on Saturday March 30 2019, @01:47AM (1 child)
One wonders if the court documents will then be redacted. How will you even know if you have crossed the line in what you can say? Scary stuff.
(Score: 2) by https on Saturday March 30 2019, @04:57PM
Courts regularly publish things that are not acceptable elsewhere - it's what they deal in. Consider libel and slander at a minimum. Context matters, so no, one doesn't wonder.
The easist way to know is by listening to themselves. I don't think anyone who's ever said "bomb the boats" has had any doubt about which side of the line in their rear view mirror they are on.
Offended and laughing about it.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:25AM
Well of course the actual post can't be published, it's offensive.
When you live in a country where an offensive facebook post gets you jail, you don't play with fire.
...also you wouldn't want to tempt people to say the post isn't offensive, trust the police.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by MostCynical on Friday March 29 2019, @11:28PM (2 children)
https://www.todaytells.com/masterton-woman-to-be-charged-over-facebook-post-about-christchurch-mosque-shootings-stuff-co-nz/ [todaytells.com]
Seems she suggested some people might be legitimate targets..
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 3, Informative) by NotSanguine on Friday March 29 2019, @11:47PM
Thanks for the link. However, I'm not sure where you got the info I quoted above. It certainly isn't in the linked article.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:53AM
No, that was the other kid. (Name suppressed by the court).
He's in jail (no bail) for commenting "target aquired" and for sharing the banned video. It doesn't specify if those were two separate things or if he commented on the video.
I think he'll get off if he fights it, he shared it on the day of the shooting before it was banned.
If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 29 2019, @11:48PM
Or you could give the offenders a lot of money. It'd stop the problem real fast, if New Zealand (or you know, a few other countries that commonly come to mind for this sort of thing) had to pay a lot out every time they came up with a dumb idea and imposed it by force on a hapless population.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday March 30 2019, @02:56PM (2 children)
Courses on toleration? Dafuq? Is that a THING?!?!?!? No wonder liberal arts students can't find jobs.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @03:33PM
Actually, they get jobs running those kind of courses for corporations.
Wish that was a joke.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @05:14AM
Absolutely. Lets start with the most intolerant bigots this planet has to offer.
Here is the test: A person will stand inside a circle as wide as they are tall in a public location where actions including protesting and smoking are legal. While inside the circle the person will tear a page from one of several "holy" books, roll it up, and "smoke" it.
Any religious bigot who interferes will get a free educational experience about the freedoms our society offers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @05:24PM (1 child)
courses on toleration? are you fucking stupid? what is insulting is subjective, ffs. you are basically giving the government to power to arrest anyone for saying anything they don't like at any time. i hope you are preparing for war.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @12:52PM
In Europe they now send immigrants on courses to teach them not to sexualy assault girls who don't have a male next to them
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday March 29 2019, @10:26PM (14 children)
Seriously, you're just proving the guy's points. He's touched off an autoimmune firestorm in the legislature and gotten exactly what he wanted. How could you be so stupid? Do you truly not understand how he and his kind work?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @10:30PM
They are literally doing what he said he hoped happened in the manifesto they don't want anyone to read. Almost as if it was their secret guide book.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @11:07PM (2 children)
Yes, these are the very things that make it look like an inside job. Like the other responder said, They didn't want their super secret training manual to get leaked out. That "manifesto" is straight from the CIA's book on infiltration and sabotage.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @11:40PM (1 child)
At what point is it no longer paranoid conspiracy theory to begin believing that these events are intentional? Perhaps not all of them--believing they all are would certainly be paranoid. "Never let a good tragedy go to waste" has been political SOP since forever. Shit happens, the world is imperfect, and even in a $fav_political_system utopia, I wouldn't be surprised if people still fell through the cracks.
What is a sufficient standard of evidence? What would that evidence look like, if we don't have it already?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:56AM
It would look like evidence and not opinion, supposition, anecdote, or coincidence. How would you propose to test that it is otherwise, random until proven orderly and innocent until proven guilty? That's what makes conspiracy theories theories and not proven facts. TLDR: No, a conspiracy doesn't just have to exist.
This sig for rent.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @11:33PM (8 children)
A virus uses the machinery of the host to replicate, often ultimately destroying the host.
The host here is western culture. The machinery includes tolerance for all sorts of other ideas and behaviors. The virus is Islam. This host is pretty well fucked, lacking a defense against being abused to construct a 7th-century society. The result will consume and destroy the host, without any sort of tolerance for the ideas and behaviors that were so welcoming.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:28AM (7 children)
...you do realize autoimmune disease is completely different from viral infection, don't you? The whole point of my saying it's autoimmune is that this maniac is causing the NZ government to turn on its people's freedoms and eat itself. That has squat to do with Islam.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Saturday March 30 2019, @01:04AM (6 children)
Not quite squat. In this case Islam is a McGuffin. At the very best it's a cluster of cues which might be mistaken as symptoms but is really unrelated to the disease process that's causing the host to destroy itself, but I think that analogy isn't quite right either.
This sig for rent.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by deimtee on Saturday March 30 2019, @01:36AM (5 children)
I think the metaphor you are looking for is allergen.
If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @02:25AM (4 children)
That is an analogy not a metaphor.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @02:59AM (3 children)
+/- 0: pedantic
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @07:29AM (2 children)
Are we sure it is not an allegory, or a simile? Perhaps a counter-supposal?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday March 30 2019, @02:23PM (1 child)
Could be a simile, or it could just be similac. Watch out - baby often pukes it up.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Monday April 01 2019, @11:08AM
Actually going one more up I think it might have been a counter-suppository.
This sig for rent.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Saturday March 30 2019, @02:55AM
New laws could see social media bosses jailed for failing to combat terrorist content [abc.net.au]
Hmmm... one such incident and Google is gonna pay for Improving Indigenous health for a decade [health.gov.au]? There may be something of a very perverse incentive somewhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1, Touché) by Mr Ploppy 68 on Friday March 29 2019, @10:59PM (8 children)
The submitter appears to think that NZ is a part of Australia. Not again....
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:23AM
Yeah mate, NZ is just an island where we keep some of our sheep.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @05:50AM (6 children)
No, she doesn't. She recognises that AU and NZ share a common base for their law systems. In Australia a ruling was made about race and religion as it is used in law for defining groups. The accused in NZ could use the same argument to negate this charge.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Mr Ploppy 68 on Saturday March 30 2019, @10:01AM (5 children)
At first reading it didn't seem that sophisticated to me. I take your point though; as an NZ'er I'm now intrigued enough to find out more about our Human Rights Act, specifically the wording of the relevant part. Whether the idea from TFA/Australia would fly here, especially in the current times, I doubt.
Also, I have been bothered for quite a while about conflation of religion and race, where criticism obviously targeted at a religious group is automatically labelled as racism. It's not quite the same thing, disregarding the cases where a large chunk of a given race will align with a particular religion. In that narrow legal sense the Australians are correct, I think, if only to bring some clarity to the commentary.
And, what's with an AC making a coherent response to a comment on teh internet? :-D
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @11:33AM (2 children)
Any attempt to separate race from religion is doomed to failure. It is too useful to the Jews to be able to conflate them and they have all the lawyers.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @02:29PM (1 child)
It isn't doomed. A court of law only needs to examine evidence and make a determination on facts.
If a Caucasian person joins islam then they don't become an arab.
If a japanese person realigns their personal spiritual path with hinduism they don't become south east asian indian.
Wearing a cloth over your head doesn't make you islamic. It's likely that it is so but not 100% the case.
Agreed that this has gone too far.
iMOHO if you don't like people having a go at your for silly things like religion then don't come to Australia. We can and will take the piss out of everything including ourselves.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @03:09PM
Sadly there are a number of people trying to turn Australia into another middle east conflict [dailymail.co.uk]. TFA shows NZ heading down the same path.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @02:31PM
I thought that adding given the recent ruling in Australia would be sufficient to indicate that the referred point was outside the topic location. It is an art to convey meaning clearly in few words for a story summation. I respect those who do this for a living.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @05:30PM
and it doesn't matter. you should be able to criticize what the fuck you want to criticize, unless you are a brainwashed slave.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @11:31PM (1 child)
sweet baby allah on a pogo stick hopping around on the back of a camel.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @03:02PM
More like hopping around on the camel's balls, or hairy vagina, as the case may be.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @11:31PM (5 children)
The workers of the world must defend free speech and their right to arm themselves. After fascist attack, New Zealand government enacts gun control measures [wsws.org]:
This next paragraph offers a motive for the censorship:
(Score: 2, Funny) by khallow on Friday March 29 2019, @11:54PM (3 children)
Maybe Tarrant didn't submit his plans properly to the appropriate law enforcement agencies?Maybe with his Trump sympathies, his document was formatted 8 by 11.5 instead of a serious size like A4. Nobody can take that seriously.
More seriously, law enforcement probably didn't find out because Tarrant didn't tell them.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @01:54AM (2 children)
Then what are we paying the Five Eyes to be doing?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @03:04AM
Spying on American sheeple. And viceversa.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 30 2019, @03:44AM
Spend the money we give them. And since they've failed in this case, they'll probably be given more money.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @05:36PM
"The entire political establishment has backed immigration restrictions, suggesting that immigrants and refugees are to blame for the social crisis created by the austerity measures of successive governments."
suggesting that people don't want more goat fucking, rapist, militant, sand niggers coming into their countries and stinking up the place with their primitive belief systems and hairy asses.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by black6host on Saturday March 30 2019, @02:15AM (6 children)
It's been legal for me to insult people for any reason I wish for as long as I can remember. And I will continue to do so. You don't have to like it, and neither do the people I insult. Free speech people!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @02:27AM (5 children)
What if you are blacked out drunk?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @07:47AM (4 children)
What if he is blackhost7, the known molester of UPS drivers and Mormon Missionaries? What if he is a craven sclupper of foul materials from the most foul sewers of the known world? What if his own mother has disowned him, and his father has repudiated his claim to patronage? What if, he is a jerk? Or a pervert? Or a republican? Or, all of the above, plus kiddie porn?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @08:50AM (3 children)
Do you understand the difference between an insult and an accusation?
If I were to say you are dumber than dogshit and more useless than a steer's testicles that would be an insult and quite ok under the law (and also true).
Most of what you typed were accusations, and if you and the gpp were both identifiable you would be guilty of libel/slander.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @10:52AM (2 children)
Truth is an absolute defense against accusations of libel, you person who has sex with camels, against their will!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @02:34PM (1 child)
Are you sure the camel objected? It's so hard to tell. For all you know his camels and goats like it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @03:08PM
They make the same sounds of satisfaction that yo mama makes.