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posted by martyb on Sunday March 31 2019, @07:55PM   Printer-friendly

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Dead People And Pets Are Being Forged Into Pretty Blue Diamonds - Here's How It Works

When a person dies, cremation is an increasingly popular option. The practice eclipsed burials in the US in 2015 and is expected to make up more than half of all body disposals by 2020, according to the Cremation Association of North America.

[...] While at least five companies offer a "memorial diamond" service, Algordanza in Switzerland is one of the industry leaders — its services are available in 33 countries, and the company told Business Insider it sold nearly 1,000 corporeal gems in 2016.

Algordanza also claims to be the only company of its kind that operates its own diamond-growing lab for cremains — one of two in the world. (The other is in Russia.)

"It allows someone to keep their loved one with them forever," Christina Martoia, a spokesperson for Algordanza US, told Business Insider. "We're bringing joy out of something that is, for a lot of people, a lot of pain."

[...] Making a diamond from a dead person begins with cremation. The process typically leaves behind about 2.2kgs to 4.5kgs of ashes, much of which is carbon. Martoia said Algordanza requires a minimum of 500g of cremains. 'That's kind of the magic number, where our engineers can guarantee there will be enough carbon to make a memorial diamond,' she said.

[...] 'The diamonds can range from clear to very deep blue,' Martoia said. 'The more boron, the deeper the blue.' [...] Natural diamonds form out of carbon that gets stuck in lava tubes about a mile deep in the Earth's crust. To emulate that environment, Algordanza inserts the cell (now packed with graphite) into a platter and slides it into a high-temperature high-pressure (HPHT) growing machine. That machine can heat a growth cell to nearly 1,370 degrees celcius. It also squeezes the cell under 394,625kgs-per-square-inch of pressure.

[...] Depending on how big a customer wants their diamond to be, it can take six to eight weeks in an HPHT machine to coax graphite to crystallize into a gem. 'The larger the diamond, the longer it takes to grow,' Martoia said. When enough time has passed, technicians remove the puck of graphite and crack it open. Inside awaits a rough, uncut, and unpolished diamond.

Some customers take the rough gem, but many opt to have their memorial diamonds cut, faceted, and polished by a jeweller in Switzerland. Algordanza's prices start at $3,000 for a 0.3 carat diamond. Martoia said the average order is about 0.4 to 0.5 carat, though US customers usually request bigger, 0.8-carat diamonds.


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by c0lo on Sunday March 31 2019, @08:28PM (8 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @08:28PM (#822822) Journal

    heat a growth cell to nearly 1,370 degrees celcius. It also squeezes the cell under 394,625kgs-per-square-inch of pressure.

    Fuck me, those science journos becomes more idiotic as the time passes.

    It's Celsius! The unit was named after a person, you don't write fahrenheit, do you?

    And for pressure, if you want imperial, use psi. If you want metric, use Pa(scal) and/or multiples. If you want technical, use atm.
    Metric per imperial? To me, it's as informative as saying "under 154.108 μfirkin/sq-furlong of pressure"

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Sunday March 31 2019, @08:58PM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @08:58PM (#822833) Journal

      Here [algordanza.com]:

      Our diamond synthesis equipment are powerful machines. Their potential is fully demanded for the creation of Memorial Diamonds. They have the ability to generate a pressure of 60’000bar and temperatures of 1'400°C. This procedure is called HPHT-one crystal-synthesis.

      The pressure is about 870000psi or 6GPa=6000MPa. That's 100 times over the compressive strength of good quality concrete (not special mixes) or about 55 times the pressure in the deepest point of the oceans (thus equiv of a water depth of about 550km).

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    • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:06PM (4 children)

      by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:06PM (#822839) Journal

      Shame on you, μfirkin is a unit of volume!

      Zambonis would have been more applicable.

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      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:12PM (3 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:12PM (#822841) Journal

        FFF system [wikipedia.org]:

        firkin - mass - 90lb

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        • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:27PM

          by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:27PM (#822849) Journal

          Ahhh, I should have dug deeper.

          From the mid 15th century until 1824 the beer firkin was defined as 9 ale or beer gallons. The beer or ale firkin was redefined to be 9 imperial gallons in 1824. It is therefore exactly 40.91481 litres or approximately 1.445 cubic feet.

          makes sense that it would be ~40.8 kg though. They just tallied up the mass, and presumably the .1kg difference is Ale vs. Water?

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        • (Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Monday April 01 2019, @01:08AM (1 child)

          by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Monday April 01 2019, @01:08AM (#822919) Journal

          Meh, no excuse. The fff system fails at humor because it doesn't make sense. Firkins were NEVER used as units of mass. Historically a firkin was always a unit of volume. As they became standardized, some substances that were difficult to measure by volume became standardized as units of weight (e.g. a firkin of butter). Other equivalent amounts in terms of weight were often established for standardization, but the general connotation of a firkin has always been (and still is) a measure of volume. Regardless, the firkin was NEVER used to measure mass.

          Whoever designed the FFF system probably just was an ignorant person who looked for units starting with F in some conversion tables and didn't actually know what a firkin was (or had some attachment to the letter F and realized too late that there aren't really any good units of mass or weight for that matter that start with F... Well, I suppose the Russian funt, if that counts) .

          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday April 01 2019, @02:29AM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 01 2019, @02:29AM (#822953) Journal

            The length unit of the system is the furlong, the mass unit is the mass of a firkin of water, and the time unit is the fortnight.

            My fault, I should gave used the μfir abbreviation.

            Meh, no excuse. The fff system fails at humor because it doesn't make sense.

            Makes as much sense as "kg/sq inch" to my mind, either as serious or an attempt to a "tongue in cheek".

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by FatPhil on Monday April 01 2019, @10:56AM (1 child)

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Monday April 01 2019, @10:56AM (#823019) Homepage
      > It's Celsius!

      Correct conclusion...

      > The unit was named after a person,

      ... but the wrong logic; newtons are newtons, watts are watts, becquerels are becquerels, and they were people too.

      """
      Units: The names of all units start with a lower case letter except, of course, at the beginning of the sentence. There is one exception: in "degree Celsius" (symbol °C) the unit "degree" is lower case but the modifier "Celsius" is capitalized. Thus, body temperature is written as 37 degrees Celsius.
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      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday April 01 2019, @11:10AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 01 2019, @11:10AM (#823024) Journal

        Fahrenheit (non-SI) too, but kelvin is not, got it

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @08:48PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @08:48PM (#822826)

    Someone please tell MDC's executor there's something he wanted public:

    The CD with my hearing's recording arrived the very next day. I intended to post it on my website but neglected to do so right away. The CD got buried in my storage locker.

    I still have that CD. Someday I'm going to publish a transcript in a full-page Columbian ad.

    Maybe I can get that recording played on the radio. Rush Limbaugh would be heavily into that sort of thing.

    Per http://www.warplife.com/mdc/books/culture-of-dependency/my-take.htmldd [warplife.com]

    • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:00PM (2 children)

      by Sulla (5173) on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:00PM (#822834) Journal

      Or you know you could do it. You can find the persons name in his last post/will and look them up in either Portland OR or Vancouver WA. When I called the Clark County Records Office on Friday the impression I got was that MDC was still in the morgue.

      I would be interested if you had more details.

      Also the most off-topics of off-topics because MDC requested his ashes be scattered over Idaho and this article is about turning ashes into diamonds.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @12:39AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @12:39AM (#822904)

        Also the most off-topics of off-topics because MDC requested his ashes be scattered over Idaho and this article is about turning ashes into diamonds.

        Yes but can't we have his remains crushed into a diamond and used to store a backup of the SN database? [smithsonianmag.com] For bonus points, we'd trouble memelord Melon Tusk to blast the diamond into space. [wikipedia.org]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @04:42AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @04:42AM (#822964)

        Not everybody can make phone calls.

        Some MDC admirers have reasons you might not like but those are still reasons.

        In short I would if I could. As I cannot, I am reduced to begging in off-topic comments on a website, hoping against hope that the community that didn't buy him bananas or medicine might make a phone call.

        I... guess you're right. How foolish of me.

  • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @08:49PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @08:49PM (#822827)

    Are US people really twice as fat as the rest of the world?

    • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Sunday March 31 2019, @08:55PM (3 children)

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @08:55PM (#822830) Journal

      I'm pretty sure that even for really skinny people they throw away most of the remains. The smaller limit is probably to keep people from requesting that their parakeet be made into a diamond or something.

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      • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday March 31 2019, @11:11PM (2 children)

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday March 31 2019, @11:11PM (#822881) Homepage

        Doubtful. If some jackass with too much money is offering you money to make a diamond out of his parakeet, then you do it even if it means sending them to the back of the line in favor of the larger and more expensive diamonds.

        It's kinda like the bakers who refused to bake the homosexual cake. Those homos want to give you their money! Just squirt the fucking rainbow frosting on it and take their goddamn money.

        • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday April 01 2019, @12:35AM (1 child)

          by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 01 2019, @12:35AM (#822902) Journal

          But a parakeet probably doesn't have enough carbon to make a decent sized diamond. So it's a practical, not a matter of "I won't deal with ...".

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          • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Monday April 01 2019, @12:43AM

            by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Monday April 01 2019, @12:43AM (#822906) Homepage

            Then take some of the ashes from your Weber charcoal grill and add them to the mix. Not only would they have a diamond, but one that smells good, like beer-can or BBQ chicken.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:05PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:05PM (#822838)

      Are US people really twice as fat as the rest of the world?

      According to Twitter, they believe in deh "Win" theory of "Survival of the fattest!"

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:15PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:15PM (#822844)

    If a guy’s first wife died he could diamond ize her remains and use them as the wedding ring for his 2nd wife.
    Which wife would dislike that more?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @11:50PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @11:50PM (#822888)

      The third I would imagine.

      • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Monday April 01 2019, @12:32AM

        by Sulla (5173) on Monday April 01 2019, @12:32AM (#822901) Journal

        Not sure what her problem is, she got two diamonds.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:51PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:51PM (#822861)

    Here in America, it's still March 31, not April 1.

    Hold your horses.

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by datapharmer on Monday April 01 2019, @12:27AM

    by datapharmer (2702) on Monday April 01 2019, @12:27AM (#822900)

    Soylent Diamonds are People.

    That is all.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @01:47AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @01:47AM (#822934)

    Uhhh, how could this be???!!!

  • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Monday April 01 2019, @02:50AM (1 child)

    by darkfeline (1030) on Monday April 01 2019, @02:50AM (#822956) Homepage

    "It allows someone to keep their loved one with them forever."

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Yandere [tvtropes.org]

    There's a character archetype in Japanese fiction, where a girl loves a boy so very much, that she will go to violent lengths to be one with him, and often quite literally be one with him.

    This kind of obsession is probably not healthy long term. There is a healthy grieving process, and hopefully this doesn't enable more people to not move on. There's also a tinge of morbidity to whole "carrying a part of them" business.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @04:25AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @04:25AM (#822962)

    "Over here we have the dazzling Jimmy Hoffa assortment..."

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