Tesla Sentry Mode catches deliberate attack against Model 3, vandal arrested
A Tesla Model 3 owner is thanking the video recording capabilities of Sentry Mode after it captured a shocking act of vandalism against his electric car. As could be seen in footage from the security feature, a woman stealthily yet aggressively keyed the Model 3 as she was ushering her children inside a Dodge Journey SUV, resulting in deep scratches to the vehicle's body panels.
A short clip[*] of the incident was shared on YouTube by Rafael "Teslatino" Santoni, who noted in a conversation with Teslarati that while the incident definitely appeared premeditated, the Model 3 owner could not determine the lady's motivation for the attack. The damage from the incident was quoted at $900 in repair costs by a third-party body shop.
Fortunately for the Model 3 owner, the footage from Sentry Mode was able to capture the entire incident, and it featured a clear shot of the woman's face. With her identity determined, the attack was promptly reported to the police, who later arrested the woman on vandalism charges. It remains to be seen if she will be required to pay for the damages she caused to the Model 3.
[...] While remarkable for their technology and performance, Tesla's electric vehicles remain polarizing to some groups of people. Attacks on Teslas have been recorded in the past, including a road rage incident against a Model 3 that resulted in an instant karma crash, as well as an unfortunate incident involving vandals and a Supercharger. Some electric car owners have also found themselves becoming victim to acts colloquially known as ICE-ing, which refers to gas-powered cars (intentionally or unintentionally) blocking access to charging stations.
[*] Direct links to the original video and to some extra footage on YouTube. --martyb
See also: Elon Musk teases "Teslaquila" update while trademark's fate is uncertain
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @05:47PM
You mean wombyns commit crimes?! Holy shit! mind = blown! Next you're going to tell me that wombyns sometimes lie too!
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @05:55PM (1 child)
come back. answer.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 02 2019, @03:08AM
He's dead, Jim.
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @05:56PM (1 child)
Fuck! When are we going to learn that it's okay to clear an obstruction? How is it that this shit is tolerated? You push the motherfucker out of the way, and you shoot him if you have to.
(Score: 2) by AssCork on Tuesday April 02 2019, @06:23PM
I have yet to see an electric-car owner with a carry-permit.
Doesn't mean they don't exist.
But I haven't seen it.
Just popped-out of a tight spot. Came out mostly clean, too.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @05:56PM (3 children)
The difficult part was finding her. He and his insurance company can deal with taking her to the cleaners. Maybe she'll have to sell the minivan and cut back to a Fiat 500 for her and her brood.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @06:36PM (1 child)
That's no Fiat 500 ass -- that's an F150 booty.
(Score: 3, Informative) by driverless on Tuesday April 02 2019, @01:56AM
Yup. I could barely see the keying for the GIGANTIC ASS blocking the view of her loading her litter into the dumptruck she needs to drive to move her lard overhang around.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 02 2019, @01:29AM
Would the police have bothered to find her, if she hadn't been black?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by nitehawk214 on Monday April 01 2019, @05:57PM (28 children)
How is this at all interesting? Because it is a Tesla?
Lots of cars have dashcams and lots of dashcams have an away mode where it records when the vehicle is off.
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Monday April 01 2019, @06:23PM (23 children)
Hmmmm . . . to me it was somewhat interesting, because I've never had a camera in any of my vehicles. I seriously considered installing a camera in the cab of my truck when I was driving truck, but never did it.
Mostly because I couldn't work out how to mount 2 or 3 cameras to capture everything, and save it all to a hard drive that I could access, affordably. I probably should have spent the ~$500 on the equipment, and jumped into the project, figuring things out as I went.
Imagine, you park, go inside to eat dinner, and come back to find the entire hood, grill, and lights lying on the ground, in front of your truck. Happened to me twice, about ten months apart. The second incident, the guy parked beside me watched it happen, and wrote down all the information I needed for insurance to file a claim for hit and run. First one, no such luck - my company ate the cost of that one.
But, you're probably right - if this wasn't a Tesla, few people would give a damn.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @06:36PM
Never had an intelligent driver, either! Ha! Let alone an artificially intelligent one! Heehee! Just a loose nut behind the wheel! Something else Runaway does not know, because he has no experience with it, like rational thought! But he is going to give us his uniformed opinion anyway, just because we need to hear it, to make him feel useful, I guess.
(Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Monday April 01 2019, @06:37PM (2 children)
I don't think a typical 2x dashcam system with storage costs anywhere near $500. Maybe $200, tops.
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(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday April 01 2019, @07:05PM (1 child)
You're talking today's prices - I'm talking uhhhh - holy crap - fifteen years or so ago. Time flies when you're having fun, doesn't it?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Monday April 01 2019, @07:37PM
Understandable.
As someone else said, you can get it all for under $100. You might want to look out for a sale [slickdeals.net].
I just grabbed a 32 GB microSD from Micro Center for $4. 256 GB is $35. Depending on the resolution/bitrates recorded by the dashcam, this could mean several hours or even days of footage (720p30?) recorded before it needs to start deleting.
https://carcamcentral.com/guide/recommended-sd-cards-for-dash-cameras [carcamcentral.com]
https://dashboardcamerareviews.com/ [dashboardcamerareviews.com]
https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-dash-cam/ [thewirecutter.com]
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(Score: 2) by NewNic on Monday April 01 2019, @06:56PM (18 children)
You can get a reasonable dashcam and enough storage for 2 hours of recording for ~ $60.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday April 01 2019, @07:11PM (17 children)
Does that camera have good enough resolution to read the license plate of the car that sideswipes you? Fifteen years ago, the sort of resolution available at those prices was abysmal.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Informative) by RS3 on Monday April 01 2019, @08:54PM (15 children)
They've been getting much much better and cheaper, like most similar devices (like cellphone cameras). I recently (and finally) bought a dashcam that does 1080p @ 30fps, has a 142 degree angle, very clear images, great night vision, comes with a 16 GB micro-SD card, certainly accepts a 32, maybe 64, for like $40. You can spend $20 and get a reasonable camera (or 3). I wanted the wide angle lens. There are some great websites that compile dashcams and reviews. Easy web search.
8 or so years ago I was blamed for an accident that was not my fault. Young girl crossed into my lane just in front of me as she was making a right turn. Nowhere to go, no time to do anything but hit brakes. Didn't increase my insurance by much, but I didn't have collision coverage so I lost a lot of $. Pisses me off that I got automatically blamed, even though I told them what she did. Bottom line: if I had bought a camera for $500 it would have saved me much money, and, she would have gotten the blame she deserved.
Also, interestingly, I find I'm much calmer driving now. I used to get irritated at how badly some people drive (not road-rage- much better things to do with life!) but now I'm pretty calm, and make copies of any videos showing idiot driving, just in case.
(Score: 5, Funny) by takyon on Monday April 01 2019, @09:47PM (14 children)
Moreover, you've joined the ranks of people who are ready to accidentally capture footage of a meteor entering Earth's atmosphere.
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(Score: 2) by RS3 on Monday April 01 2019, @10:08PM (13 children)
Wow, yeah, cool, thanks! And ghosts in windows, and who-knows-what else it might catch happening in the background.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @10:27PM (5 children)
That reads like you're being sarcastic, but takyon was at least semi-serious. There are some great dashcam vids of meteors on youtube.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by takyon on Monday April 01 2019, @10:33PM (2 children)
I mean, we have to thank Russia's circumstances for allowing us to have so many great angles of the Chelyabinsk impact:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140517224437/http://www.wired.com/2013/02/russian-dash-cams [archive.org]
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(Score: 2) by RS3 on Tuesday April 02 2019, @02:42AM (1 child)
I'm not sure where you are- I'm in the US. I watch the Russian crash videos from time-to-time and learn a lot about driving, vehicle dynamics, cultural differences, and more. I don't mean to disparage Russians or anyone- just an observation: the Russians tend to make large sudden steering wheel motions and it often gets them into trouble, esp. when they drift onto the shoulder. I guess I'm observant enough to have figured it out at a very young age: you have to understand the surface conditions you're driving on and use appropriate steering input. Of course there are other problems. I feel badly for them, but from what I've read, things are improving, cops are less corrupt, and it's likely due to the dashcam video evidence.
Ever watch any of the "John Connor" vids? He captions them and sometimes it's a riot. Sometimes very sad of course. Some are correct translations, but many are "pizdez" and "yourbunnywrote". He calls himself "Blyat Production" https://www.youtube.com/user/sgigti/videos [youtube.com]
Check out #336 @ 19 seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJRus5mz63E&t=17 [youtube.com]
(Score: 2) by sjames on Tuesday April 02 2019, @06:06AM
You do have to consider selection bias though. Nobody posts videos of "I drove to the store, nothing happened".
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Tuesday April 02 2019, @12:28AM (1 child)
I was not being sarcastic, but I bet your ego will keep trying to tell me how I convey sarcasm. Stop interpreting what you read- you aren't clairvoyant and nobody needs your negativity.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 02 2019, @09:43AM
If you weren't being sarcastic then you are a big enough moron to believe in ghosts. I apologise for thinking better of you.
(Score: 2) by driverless on Tuesday April 02 2019, @01:59AM (6 children)
Friend of mine captured footage of a woman kneeling in front of and facing a guy who was standing. The top part was cut off, I guess she was helping him tuck in his shirt and he was modest about it and hid behind the parked car.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Tuesday April 02 2019, @02:25AM (5 children)
Yep, you never know what it will catch. I'm pretty focused on the road and driving when I drive, and my camera has a 142 degree angle so it'll catch stuff I likely miss.
(okay AC, now I'll be sarcastic) That was really nice of that woman to help that guy. Maybe he had to take a leak and got his zipper stuck and she's near-sighted.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 02 2019, @02:39AM (2 children)
Just to stay on topic: I once zipped part of my foreskin into my pants zipper. Yes, the only way to get it loose was to zip back down over it.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Tuesday April 02 2019, @03:12AM
Way too much information.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 02 2019, @04:06AM
You can usually cut the backside of the zipper in cases like that to free anything that's trapped in the zipper.
Or at least that's what normal people do.
(Score: 2) by driverless on Tuesday April 02 2019, @02:46AM (1 child)
Yeah, it must have been a stuck zipper, and she was really helpful in getting it unstuck, her head was bobbing back and forth quite a bit.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Tuesday April 02 2019, @03:15AM
Yep, that's the prescribed technique they teach in wardrobe malfunction corrective action training manuals. He's lucky she was there.
(Score: 2) by NewNic on Monday April 01 2019, @10:01PM
Possibly -- they have quite high resolution available, but you need a large SD card and to make sure the dashcam actually supports that size of SD card.
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(Score: 5, Interesting) by hemocyanin on Monday April 01 2019, @06:39PM (3 children)
I have a dashcam. It records what is outside the car from the perspective of being INSIDE the car. Tesla's cams apparently record the outside of the car from a perspective OUTSIDE the car. If this lady keyed my car the maximum I would have seen is that she was near my car. Tesla's cam actually recorded her reaching behind her butt and gouging the paint. That view isn't what you get form a $99 dash cam.
(Score: 4, Informative) by NewNic on Monday April 01 2019, @06:59PM
The Tesla dashcam feature now records using the front camera, which is mounted on the windshield in front of the rear-view mirror and the side cameras, which are mounted on the front fenders, looking backwards.
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(Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Monday April 01 2019, @07:33PM
Ahh good call. I guess WTFV is the new RTFM. The interesting thing is the new angles that cameras integrated into the car provides. Normal front/rear view cameras wouldn't have picked this up.
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
(Score: 3, Interesting) by driverless on Tuesday April 02 2019, @02:02AM
It's not just Teslas, a number of recent cars have this for driving assist. Friend of mine has some generic but recent hatchback and it provides a 360deg. top-down view of the car when he's backing it via all-round cameras.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @06:39PM (10 children)
Gee why would anyone have a problem with a car that puts them under constant surveillance.
Is that mode always on? Optional? Can the owner get a subpoena for their car's footage if a crime happens nearby? (ie can the footage benefit anyone besides the owner?)
(Score: 4, Insightful) by DannyB on Monday April 01 2019, @07:11PM (6 children)
Gee why would anyone have a problem with a ${business | store | theme park | residential home} that puts them under constant surveillance.
Is that mode always on? Optional? Can the someone get a subpoena for their camera's footage if a crime happens nearby? (ie can the footage benefit anyone besides the camera owner?)
The anti vax hysteria didn't stop, it just died down.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @07:21PM (4 children)
At minimum most ${business | store | theme park | residential home} won't come park next to you when you don't expect it.
(Score: 5, Touché) by DannyB on Monday April 01 2019, @07:40PM (3 children)
You are on surveillance cameras often. Nobody cares. I doubt the footage is ever reviewed unless some kind of incident or crime occurs. Why would it matter that some or all cars might potentially have cameras? Or traffic signals.
I don't really understand your point.
The criminal did not key the car because it had a camera. If the criminal had enough brains to realize there might be a camera, she would not have done it. There was some other motive. Having the camera was a good thing. Also, some cars now have dash cams. And some of those are also on when the car is parked.
With modern tech, cameras are only going to get cheaper, and more plentiful. You can't stop it. I can't stop it. If you can't deal with it, then it would be best to stay home with the cameras in your smart tv, laptop, and with Alexa and Google constantly listening.
The anti vax hysteria didn't stop, it just died down.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @07:55PM (2 children)
Yeah, we've generally accepted being on surveillance cameras, basically always. That doesn't mean its ideal.
I don't apreciate the one-sided access to the information. Camera footage will be used to prove guilt, but an innocent person would have a hard time getting access to footage showing them in other place to prove innocence. Or many place in public the surveillance cameras can (at least theoretically) be used to help people besides the owners of the cameras, which makes some offset for the encroachment on the public space they impose. Like a guy getting mugged just outside a store, the police could use the store's cameras to find the muggers. But privately owned surveillance vans just erode on the public space without any realistic benefit for anyone other than the owner. Get mugged next to a tesla and I doubt the car's footage will be available to find the muggers.
And this crime wasn't motivated by the camera's presence, but I think some people are upset by constant encroachment of surveillance cameras everywhere so it could be a motivator for disliking teslas, but you would be an idiot to key one because you hate the fact that it has a camera which can see you do that.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 02 2019, @12:22AM (1 child)
Why? An investigator usually checks the places that might have recorded the incident or an alibi. If you want a private camera data, ask for it in the local news. Maybe you will find some eyewitnesses this way as well.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday April 02 2019, @05:53PM
That is a good way to get unknown camera data. Like someone flying a drone got the whole thing on camera from above.
But your investigators (on your side) can check with local businesses within eye shot. They can even just visually look for any obvious cameras. They can ask for the footage. If they don't get it, put them on notice about spoilation of evidence and get a court ordered subpoena for the footage. The court helps either side obtain evidence that can help its case.
The anti vax hysteria didn't stop, it just died down.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @08:39PM
You missed "government" in your list.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by beernutz on Monday April 01 2019, @07:21PM
As I understand it, it does not record until something comes close to the car, so it is not all the time. Is this not the case? This seems reasonable to me at least.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @09:56PM
More likely one of these:
*He parked poorly or took her spot
*After parking, he did or said something to offend her
*The woman simply gets kicks off of keying people’s cars
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 02 2019, @04:10AM
Depending upon the specifics, this might entail illegal wiretapping. Just because this is in public doesn't mean you get to use hidden cameras to capture what's going on. If you could, hidden cameras shows wouldn't need waivers to show the footage.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @06:43PM
Now that is what I call highway robbery!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by SomeGuy on Monday April 01 2019, @06:46PM (8 children)
So video cameras everywhere help catch criminals.
That does not mean cameras everywhere is a good idea.
Video cameras are already almost everywhere so this has squat to do with a Tesla. It is obviously crafted as a click bait advertisement. I'd be MORE IMPRESSED if these didn't have spying capabilities.
If a TRS-80 Model 3 had a hidden video camera that caught a robber, would that be just as impressive? No? Why?
(Score: 4, Funny) by DannyB on Monday April 01 2019, @07:16PM (3 children)
If it were original equipment, or contemporary with the age and common lifetime of the device, then yes that would impressive from a technology standpoint and more. Cameras, and their recording equipment, were not cheap, light or small back then. Nor their power supplies.
Having cameras on a personal computer is common today. Nobody seems surprised. They can be used in bedrooms to catch people cheating. The appropriate penalty for the cheating is a failing grade the next day at school.
The anti vax hysteria didn't stop, it just died down.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @09:26PM (2 children)
You do that to all your girlfriends who cheat on you?
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday April 02 2019, @05:55PM
If I had any girlfriends, then I don't know. But I would have to be single.
The anti vax hysteria didn't stop, it just died down.
(Score: 2) by The Archon V2.0 on Tuesday April 02 2019, @06:20PM
> You do that to all your girlfriends who cheat on you?
Not if they're cheating on me with each other, then they get 4.0 GPAs.
Unless they turn off the lights and the camera doesn't get much, of course.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday April 01 2019, @07:42PM
> does not mean cameras everywhere is a good idea.
Maybe. Maybe not. But I think cameras are only getting cheaper and more plentiful. I don't think it can be stopped.
The anti vax hysteria didn't stop, it just died down.
(Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Monday April 01 2019, @10:36PM (2 children)
I rigged a motion detector circuit to my TRS-80 via the RS-232 port that then sent a signal to fire a Polaroid camera watching the keyboard. Does that count?*
*No, no I didn't. But back in the day I would have found the prospect very cool. I remember an article in 80 Micro that described a project box with a half-dozen photosensors and holes that would read a punched card and you could set the detectors to the combination pattern thereby giving a very crude security interlock.
This sig for rent.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday April 01 2019, @10:58PM
Just had to beware the hanging chads 'eh?
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday April 02 2019, @06:01PM
That wood be cool. But noise (and possible flash) of the Polaroid would give it away. Then there is that lengthy motor sound.
In about 1978, with a TRS-80 model 1, Level II basic. Long term loaned to me from local RS store until I went to college. (So I could write programs for them in exchange.)
Using POKE, I could toggle the cassette recorder relay. (This relay connected to an external cable that turns on or off the cassette tape recorder / player to save / load programs and data.)
With careful timing I could get that relay to either buzz like a quiet but audible buzzer. (wow sound!) I could also get it to pulse at the correct rate to dial a telephone which was way cold back then!
I dreamed of, but didn't have the chops to even attempt it: since the cassette recorder interface included "audio" in / out, it might have been possible to effectively build a software "modem" of sorts that other TRS-80 Model 1's could understand.
Ah, high school. Those were the daze.
The anti vax hysteria didn't stop, it just died down.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Nuke on Monday April 01 2019, @07:14PM (8 children)
I can't say I have much sympathy with that. At my nearest town most parking costs money, but there is one small car park (~20 spaces) near the shops which is free but limited to 20 minutes. Useful if you just want to buy one or two things. There is always a small queue of 2 or 3 three cars for it but usually only a couple of minutes' wait before spaces become available.
A year ago the council put EV chargers by three of the spaces and painted their road surfaces blue, with "EVs Only" in white lettering. I have never seen an EV (or an ICE for that matter) using any of these spaces. They are just a waste of space - and waste of other people's time as IC vehicles are waiting for one of the remaining spaces (usually with engines running - and polluting!). IMHO, an EV owner should make arrangements to charge it somewhere other than in a premium location by a shopping street; I don't expect to find fuel pumps there.
I see it as EVs blocking access to valuable parking spaces without even being present to make use of them. At least ICE vehicles blocking EV spaces are making use of the space.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday April 01 2019, @07:29PM (6 children)
There had to be some point where businesses allocated parking space for ICE vehicles, which took up more parking space than a horse.
I suppose you could complain to the council. But they might be wanting to encourage the use of EVs. Although in this case, the EV spots could maybe be a bit further from the business entrance.
If a business owner takes it upon themselves to do this, without a government mandate, then complain to the business.
If busy businesses simply does not have enough parking then this points to poor planning -- somewhere. Either a problem with the city planning. Or with the business not planning enough parking. Or a city not requiring enough parking.
> I don't expect to find fuel pumps there.
I cannot see the future. But I wonder if EV chargers could become common features at some businesses. Just as some places offer both electrical outlets and USB-A outlets for charging, along with WiFi.
The anti vax hysteria didn't stop, it just died down.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @07:41PM (2 children)
It will as soon as the cost of electricity goes to zero.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Monday April 01 2019, @07:44PM (1 child)
It doesn't have to go to zero. The cost of free WiFi is not zero. The cost of free air conditioning is not zero. It only has to be so cheap that it doesn't impact the business. We might be past that point already?
The anti vax hysteria didn't stop, it just died down.
(Score: 0, Redundant) by sorpigal on Monday April 01 2019, @09:41PM
It doesn't need to be close to zero, it just needs to be within the profit margin of additional business. Some places are there already.
That said, as EVs become more common I expect there to be (0) more at-business EV-only parking, (1) that parking to have a pay-per-kilowatt-hour charger where the business and the charger provider split the profits. In that scenario literally everyone wins, except people who don't drive EVs... but that's going to be not very many people in ten years time.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by HiThere on Monday April 01 2019, @07:44PM
FWIW, a car takes up considerably less space than a carriage. And horses were so expensive to own & maintain that most people didn't have them. I don't actually know what the streets of western towns looked like, but I *do* know that you can't trust the Hollywood vision. I expect that horses were usually "parked" at a livery stable if you were going to be in a place for more than a couple of minutes. (This doesn't include horses that were harnessed to a wagon or cart, of course.)
FWIW, the era of "cowboys" was only about 25 years, perhaps, if you stretch things a lot, 40 years. It basically started with troops from the Confederate side of the US Civil War needing to do something the earn a living, and not having many choices. But all these new railroads providing a way to ship cattle around cheaply. It pretty much ended when barbed wire became reasonably available. So by 1890 the norm was farms and small towns, where space was plentiful, and parking wasn't a problem. Places like New York, where it *was* a problem, didn't park horses on the public street.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 2) by Nuke on Monday April 01 2019, @09:42PM
"Allocated" parking spaces did not generally exist until quite recent times.
Until the explosion in car ownership in the 1950's, people generally just parked right outside where they wanted to go. Only the wealthy had cars and they felt entitled anyway, and would have objected strongly to being told where and where not to park; the only weapon against bad parking was the law against "Obstruction" of the highway. It is evident from old photos that there were rarely any marked spaces, even in crowded city centres with a lot of traffic (mixed cars and horses for a time) - it was just a free-for-all. There were certainly never any marked parking spaces with "Cars only, no horses!" signs.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @10:38PM
When I lived in south-central PA during the 1980's, it was commonplace for most larger stores to have quite a few electrical outlets near the hitching posts at the front of the store. There were a large number of Amish and Mennonite communities in the area, and the store owners knew that would draw customers...the customers could recharge the batteries needed for the required lights on their carriages/wagons/carts for road use, while they shopped.
So my answer would be yes, but depending on cost of equip/electricity, maybe not as widespread. More likely to find metered charging stations or parking w/metered charging available.
rts008
(Score: 0, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @08:21PM
Come on man, you have to be able to differentiate these cases from each other. That's what makes a reasonable person. I wouldn't like the parking spot thing either, but it's a different thing to become a complete moron and start blocking accesses.
Besides, you don't fucking touch someones car.
(Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Monday April 01 2019, @09:49PM (3 children)
Keying a LEAF I could maybe understand. But Tesla owners are far more likely to leave you in the dust (without even breaking a sweat for your puny ICE power curve) instead of tooling along at speeds that piss off slugs and sloths.
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(Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @11:51PM
Because the owner is likely to be a millennial.
(Score: 2) by VanessaE on Tuesday April 02 2019, @07:25AM (1 child)
Jealousy, what else?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 02 2019, @03:12PM
Cuz this tesla driver ain't a real merican. Real mericans use arab blood oil from capitalist countries.
We gotta!!! How else we going to kick off left behind like in the bible?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 02 2019, @05:59AM (1 child)
I've smashed tail lights and side mirrors of cars that blocked the sidewalk in a bad way. Be careful where you park.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by FatPhil on Tuesday April 02 2019, @08:24AM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves