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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:21PM   Printer-friendly
from the apple-products-have-bugs dept.

The famed Apple store on 5th Avenue isn't just crawling with thousands of tourists– it's also been crawling with bed bugs for nearly a month, The Post has learned.

This past Friday, after weeks of bed bug sightings, a critter was spotted in the manager's office, sending desperate employees into a frenzy, terrified they'd bring the pest home with them.

"It was just mayhem," an employee told The Post.

"There was a mass exodus... employees were freaking out they felt really unsafe and management kept giving them the runaround."

Staff were ordered to double bag their belongings in plastic while a "bed bug sniffing beagle" came to the store where it was "activated" by two lockers in a staff area.

"I shouldn't have to go to work feeling unsafe and unprotected," one worker told The Post.

"We felt very anxious, used and unimportant, like we were just another number."

One worker said the issue has been going on for "nearly a month" and "Friday was the first day they acknowledged they found something."

The employee said the issue started about three to four weeks ago during the overnight hours at the 24-hour store, which frequently has homeless visitors, when a table on the second floor was "cordoned off" because a bed bug was found, believed to have come from one of the homeless visitors.

The table was left cordoned off while employees and customers were allowed in the store and around the table with no warning of the bed bug threat, an employee said.

"No one could go to that table but it was still on the floor, if a customer leaned on it and they didn't know" a bug could've crawled on them, the worker said.

https://nypost.com/2019/04/15/the-5th-ave-apple-store-has-been-crawling-with-bed-bugs/


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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:35PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:35PM (#830587)

    The famed Apple store on 5th Avenue

    There's an Apple store on Fifth Avenue?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:19PM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:19PM (#830659)

      Also, which of the several thousand fifth avenues (assuming we’re talking about North America)?

      • (Score: 2) by DrkShadow on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:09PM

        by DrkShadow (1404) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:09PM (#830694)

        FTFS,

        https://nypost.com

      • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:31PM

        by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:31PM (#830707)

        They might have meant Fifth Avenue, Tauranga, New Zealand?

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @01:28AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @01:28AM (#830771)

        Also, which of the several thousand fifth avenues (assuming we’re talking about North America)?

        Original AC here.

        I knew it was NYC. Hell, I *live* in NYC.

        I also knew that an Apple store existed in NYC, but only because the local news has repeatedly shown morons waiting in line all night to buy the latest iGarbage. But its location was unclear to me and it certainly isn't "famed." FAO. Schwarz [wikipedia.org] is famed. Paragon [paragonsports.com] is famed. Zabars [wikipedia.org] is famed.

        In fact, any time I think about Apple in NYC, I think about Tekserve [wikipedia.org] not an Apple store.

        Famed is it? What know you of famed? For fifty plus years have I lived in NYC . My own counsel will I keep as to which stores are famed! A famed retail store must have useful products, the most reasonable prices. This one not at all have I watched. Always their marketing on style over substance. Never their minds on usability. Hmm? Decent functionality. Hmph! Flashy marketing. Heh. Rounded corners. Heh. A technophile craves not these things. They are hucksters!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @03:05AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @03:05AM (#830802)

          Yoda-speak detected. You can't possibly be from Earth, much less NYC...

        • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday April 17 2019, @02:04PM (1 child)

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @02:04PM (#831019) Journal

          Famed is it? What know you of famed? For fifty plus years have I lived in NYC . My own counsel will I keep as to which stores are famed!

          I'm in Brooklyn. If you're so blinkered that you have not heard of the Apple Store on Fifth Avenue, then you could only have spent those 50 years in Staten Island, in Tottenville or something. Or perhaps Far Rockaway or Pelham. Technically part of NYC, but culturally as connected and aware as Nome, Alaska.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @04:06PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @04:06PM (#831107)

            I'm in Brooklyn. If you're so blinkered that you have not heard of the Apple Store on Fifth Avenue, then you could only have spent those 50 years in Staten Island, in Tottenville or something. Or perhaps Far Rockaway or Pelham. Technically part of NYC, but culturally as connected and aware as Nome, Alaska.

            Actually, I've lived in every borough *except* Stagnant Island. I did look at a place in St. George once, but having grown up on the Upper West Side, I wasn't about to move that far out into the sticks. Nine months in Richmond Hill was more than enough of that for me.

            And why are you being disingenuous? Or are you just functionally illiterate. I said:

            I also knew that an Apple store existed in NYC, but only because the local news has repeatedly shown morons waiting in line all night to buy the latest iGarbage.

            I don't give a rats ass about Apple or their stores. I'm sure there are lots of places of note (and I argue that an Apple store isn't a place of note) which you may have heard of, but don't know where they are.

            The ILA Union Hall? That's in Brooklyn, Do you know where? I do. I lived (in various places) just a few blocks away for more than a decade. How about "Top of The Sixes?" Have you even heard of it? Had you ever heard of Tekserve before I posted it here?

            How many times have you walked through Gramercy Park? Did you know that there was a gun shop a few blocks from there?

            How about Veneiros? Lovely Italian pastries there. Almost as good as Monteleone's. I bet you don't know *either* of those places.

            Here's a softball for you -- what about Sahadi's?
            Or an even easier one -- Where is Grant's tomb, and who is buried in it?

            Come on now, no looking stuff up online. Either you know it or you don't.

            You picked the wrong person to play this game with, Phoenix.

      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday April 17 2019, @02:06PM

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @02:06PM (#831020) Journal

        RTFS, AC. It's the NY Post, so obviously they're talking about Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, at the SE corner of Central Park.

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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Revek on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:38PM (5 children)

    by Revek (5022) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:38PM (#830588)

    Cat and dogs living together!

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by pipedwho on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:39PM (4 children)

      by pipedwho (2032) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:39PM (#830635)

      Mass hysteria!

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by ilsa on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:21AM (3 children)

        by ilsa (6082) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:21AM (#830727)

        Yes, it's true. This man has no dick.

        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday April 17 2019, @05:40PM (2 children)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @05:40PM (#831176) Journal

          I love how the guy that is concerned about an untested nuclear device operating in the basement of a neglected firehouse in the most populous area in the US is the BAD GUY!

          • (Score: 2) by Sourcery42 on Wednesday April 17 2019, @07:03PM

            by Sourcery42 (6400) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @07:03PM (#831235)

            I love how the guy that is concerned about an untested nuclear device operating in the basement of a neglected firehouse in the most populous area in the US is the BAD GUY!

            Found the Gozer sympathizer

          • (Score: 2) by ilsa on Wednesday April 17 2019, @07:39PM

            by ilsa (6082) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 17 2019, @07:39PM (#831268)

            Being concerned about a nuclear device in the middle of New York is one thing. Taking it upon himself to just shut it down willy nilly without understanding the ramifications and hazards first makes him the bad guy. Like, anti-vaxxer level stupidly bad guy.

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by SomeGuy on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:38PM (6 children)

    by SomeGuy (5632) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:38PM (#830589)

    Still not as bad as the bugs in the Microsoft store. :P

    If this had been in a Linux store, it would have sent everyone in to a kernel panic.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by RS3 on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:27PM (2 children)

      by RS3 (6367) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:27PM (#830619)

      I first read "kennel panic".

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by RS3 on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:33PM (1 child)

        by RS3 (6367) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:33PM (#830627)

        ... because "bed bug sniffing beagle" ...

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @01:33AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @01:33AM (#830773)

          Donde Esta Roscoe? [youtube.com]

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by driverless on Wednesday April 17 2019, @05:32AM (2 children)

      by driverless (4770) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @05:32AM (#830847)

      a critter was spotted in the manager's office, sending desperate employees into a frenzy

      At the same time as this, the Cyclone Idai death toll is now over a thousand, with further hundreds of thousands left homeless. But hey, this one is the real cause for concern, a bedbug has been sighted in New York.

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:39PM (24 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:39PM (#830591)

    It's not a bug, it's a feature.

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:50PM (22 children)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:50PM (#830596)

      You're holding it wrong...

      Seriously, what management needs to do is figure out which staff have bedbugs in their apartment and if they're a valued employee help them to eradicate them, or move.

      Meanwhile, affected employees should scrub before reporting, similar to the protocol in Sound of my Voice: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1748207/ [imdb.com]

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:03PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:03PM (#830606)

        they need Courage!

      • (Score: 2) by Nuke on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:30PM (7 children)

        by Nuke (3162) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:30PM (#830623)

        management needs to do is figure out which staff have bedbugs in their apartment

        RTFA. They were probably brought in by vagrants using the store as a shelter at night, it being open 24hr.

        • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:39PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:39PM (#830634)

          Where "probably" isn't supported by anything other than your prejudices and insecurities: "must be the smelly homeless guy".

          Whadda ya think, probably illegal "bad hombre" immigrants too?

          • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:44PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:44PM (#830677)

            No. The illegals just bring in Lice and TB.

            • (Score: 3, Informative) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday April 17 2019, @02:13PM (1 child)

              by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @02:13PM (#831024) Journal

              Bedbugs are an epidemic in New York. Being homeless is not at all necessary to contract or transmit them. Sometimes all it takes is for somebody who has them, often unwittingly, to set his bag next to yours or hang his coat on the hook next to yours.

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              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 18 2019, @03:39PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 18 2019, @03:39PM (#831683)

                How is the problem being dealt with?
                Flamethrowers?

          • (Score: 2) by Nuke on Wednesday April 17 2019, @08:45AM

            by Nuke (3162) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @08:45AM (#830929)

            Again, RTFA (which means Read The Fucking Article in case you didn't know). Here, to save you bothering, here's what it said :

            a bed bug was found, believed to have come from one of the homeless visitors

            It would not have occured to me that it was probably caused that way unless the article had suggested it, because it would never have occurred to me that an Apple store would have provided accomodation for the homeless at night. It hardly fits the hipster image they want to project.

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday April 17 2019, @01:13AM (1 child)

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @01:13AM (#830758)

          RTFA. They were probably brought in by vagrants using the store as a shelter at night, it being open 24hr.

          If TFA is proposing that vagrants using the store as shelter managed to infest two employee lockers with bedbugs, that Apple store is a lot more friendly to vagrants than ANY store I have ever visited on 5th Avenue.

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          • (Score: 0, Troll) by khallow on Wednesday April 17 2019, @02:31AM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 17 2019, @02:31AM (#830791) Journal

            If TFA is proposing that vagrants using the store as shelter managed to infest two employee lockers with bedbugs,

            Bed bugs do move around. It doesn't require a TFA proposal.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by RandomFactor on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:34PM (1 child)

        by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:34PM (#830630) Journal

        There was an infestation in an office building I work in (several floors away.)

        That was dealt with expeditiously and the company stated that it would provide a service to come and clear out any infestations experienced by employees.

        Pretty decent considering.

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        • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday April 17 2019, @02:14PM

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @02:14PM (#831026) Journal

          It is very decent. The bedbug-detecting dogs and exterminators can cost thousands of dollars.

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      • (Score: 5, Informative) by Immerman on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:00PM (7 children)

        by Immerman (3985) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:00PM (#830644)

        Not having seen the scrubbing scene in question, I can't say how effective it would be - but if they're cleaning their body, the answer is almost certainly "not at all".

        Bedbugs are so difficult to eradicate in large part because they're almost impossible to bait, and don't stay anywhere near people by choice, except when feeding (which they only do when their prey is completely immobile while deeply asleep). If they're coming to work with you, it's because after feeding they hid in your clothing, bag, cell-phone, etc. (quite likely inside the seams). To kill them you have to cool them to 0F for most of a week, or raise their temperature above ~120F for several hours. Or expose them directly to various poisons - DDT is one of the very few that can kill them through contact with treated surfaces. None of which is terribly conductive to a quick decontamination that doesn't destroy your stuff. (they can also survive 4-6 months without eating, and the females are born pregnant, which lets them spread very effectively, but isn't directly relevant to decontamination of personal effects)

        What can I say - I lived in Denver for a few years where they had some serious bedbug outbreaks - I read up on the little bastards, and almost wish I hadn't. Then again, I love shopping thrift stores, and always putting my finds in a tightly sealed bag in the freezer for a week after purchase may have saved me a lot of headaches.

        • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday April 17 2019, @01:15AM

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @01:15AM (#830760)

          The scrubbing scene involved leaving all possessions and clothing behind before going to visit "the one." Agreed, the soap and water isn't for bedbug control, but wearing a sterilized hospital gown and carrying nothing of your own with you should be somewhat effective.

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        • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday April 17 2019, @01:19AM (2 children)

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @01:19AM (#830765)

          I've bought most of my work clothes from thrift stores over the past 5 years ($3 shirts, $4 pants... as compared to $15+ on the best of retail sales, and over $100 per article if you just buy what looks attractive on the rack from the who cares what it costs stores... yeah, my work clothes do come from the thrift stores.)

          So far, zero problems with infestation of any sort. Of course, we're not buying bedding, pillows or those kind of things. The clothing mostly looks nearly new, and a trip through the professional cleaners costs more than the clothing itself. We do usually wash it at home before use, but I doubt that has ever made a difference.

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          • (Score: 2) by Immerman on Wednesday April 17 2019, @04:00AM

            by Immerman (3985) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @04:00AM (#830816)

            So do mine - it seems a total waste to buy new clothes when mountains of almost-new clothing is thrown away every day.

            A lot of it probably depends on the local infestation level and cleaning practices. At any rate - if you routinely run clothes through a hot drier before adding them to you wardrobe, you're probably doing a pretty decent decontamination.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 18 2019, @03:46PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 18 2019, @03:46PM (#831685)

            Saving $10?
            Wow.
            Okay.
            You are lucky.

            If you contract bird mites you could be spending $250+ per month. Everything will need to be washed before you can wear it. Everything should be extra long dried in a tumble drier. Clothes will need to be worn within a day or two of washing. Once you have bird mites getting rid of them is next to impossible. Your washer or dryer may die every two years or so from the excessive use. You will not be able to have close friends. You will have to part from family or risk infecting them. You won't be able to have pets.

            Buy clothes from a thift store? You would have to be insane.

        • (Score: 1) by crahman on Wednesday April 17 2019, @07:17AM (2 children)

          by crahman (6852) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @07:17AM (#830898)

          Born pregnant? An interesting but absurd thought. Those freshly laid bedbug eggs do not contain fertilized eggs within themselves.

          • (Score: 2) by Immerman on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:35PM (1 child)

            by Immerman (3985) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:35PM (#830977)

            No eggs, but sperm.

            Bedbug reproduction is... brutal, to say the least. Rather than mating normally (which is possible but rare), the males have evolved to stab through the females' exoskeleton and inject their sperm directly into her abdomen, where it remains in her hemolymph (blood-analog) until it encounters a mature, unfertilized egg. As a result, mating too often will kill her due the multiple stab wounds, and additional sperm will migrate into already fertilized eggs as they are "ripened" with nutrients from the hemolymph in preparation for laying.

            I suppose technically that means they're not actually born pregnant, just inseminated. But either way an isolated freshly-hatched female will lay several fertilized eggs without having ever been mated.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 19 2019, @07:11AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 19 2019, @07:11AM (#832068)

              Let's hope incels don't evolve to use that technique

      • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:34PM (2 children)

        by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:34PM (#830709)

        Seriously, what management needs to do...

        You missed this bit:

        "We felt very anxious, used and unimportant, like we were just another number."

        That is because they really are unimportant, and just another number. Why would management care?

        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday April 17 2019, @01:23AM (1 child)

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @01:23AM (#830766)

          Well, I said what management needs to do is identify the actual source of the bugs, and that's most likely an underpaid employee's cheap (for the city) apartment. That's not caring about the employees, that's caring about the image of the store.

          On the other hand, what management should do is either A) terminate the source of the problem if they're not much of an asset anyway, or B) in the (rare) instance where the underpaid employee is an actual asset to the store, they should help them through the bedbug problem so they can continue to be an asset in the store.

          Of course, management themselves are underpaid, neglected and abused flunkies of the bigger organization, so why should they care about anything but collecting their paychecks until they find a better gig?

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          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday April 17 2019, @02:10AM

            by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @02:10AM (#830784)

            That all sounds totally cynical.

            I'm sure you're entirely correct. Unfortunately.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @03:06AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @03:06AM (#830803)

      Hey, there's an app for that problem.

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:39PM (16 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:39PM (#830592)

    This past Friday, after weeks of bed bug sightings, a critter was spotted in the manager's office, sending desperate employees into a frenzy, terrified they'd bring the pest home with them.

    "It was just mayhem," an employee told The Post.

    "There was a mass exodus... employees were freaking out they felt really unsafe and management kept giving them the runaround."

    Did they rip off the machines while they were fleeing the insects?

    Jeez, I didn't know people like that would be able to live in New York, I'm guessing it is New York.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by edIII on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:48PM (11 children)

      by edIII (791) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:48PM (#830595)

      ...and you're a dumbass. Don't know why employees would steal shit while fleeing the store, but fleeing is exactly what you do when you see bedbugs.

      They're a scourge, and expensive to deal with. If you're actually interested in keeping the bed and the furniture you need to wrap it up in something that provides a hermetic seal so that you can suffocate the little bastards. Not easily or cheaply dealt with.

      Another bug you run from? Lice.

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      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:05PM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:05PM (#830610)

        Realistically, you can't suffocate bed bugs. Sealing a bed in plastic will of course imprison them, and after perhaps a year they will be dead of starvation.

        Lice take only a day or two to starve.

        There probably isn't any bug that can survive a hot-air clothes dryer. Use that if you can.

        • (Score: 2) by Immerman on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:10PM (4 children)

          by Immerman (3985) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:10PM (#830652)

          Agreed - for something like a mattress I've seen suggestions of putting it in a large black bag in the sun for a few hot days - you've got to get the coldest spot within the mattress to at least 120F to kill the bugs, and above 125F to kill the eggs. (and females are born pregnant, so there's going to be eggs)

          A typical clothes drier on Hot does get hot enough to kill bugs and eggs - but you've got to run bone-dry clothes through it for a while to make sure the insides of seams, etc. where they like to hide actually reach the same temperature as the air. Not recommended for dedicates.

          For less robust items, freezing is another option - but you have to cool them below 0F for at least 4 days to do the job.

          • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:13PM (3 children)

            by Sulla (5173) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:13PM (#830653) Journal

            I would have presumed this method would work better with dedicated people

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            • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday April 17 2019, @01:44AM (2 children)

              by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 17 2019, @01:44AM (#830778) Journal

              I don't see how putting some dedicated people in a large black bag in the sun for a few hot days can get rid of bed bugs, but if you say so... Are you dedicated? (grin)

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              • (Score: 2) by kazzie on Wednesday April 17 2019, @05:28AM (1 child)

                by kazzie (5309) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 17 2019, @05:28AM (#830843)

                Perhaps "committed" is a better word...

                • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @05:51AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @05:51AM (#830857)

                  Perhaps "committed" is a better word...

                  "The difference between "involvement" and "commitment" can be explained by a breakfast of ham and eggs. The chicken was involved, but the pig was committed."
                  --Unknown

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by khallow on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:12PM (4 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:12PM (#830614) Journal

        They're a scourge, and expensive to deal with. If you're actually interested in keeping the bed and the furniture you need to wrap it up in something that provides a hermetic seal so that you can suffocate the little bastards. Not easily or cheaply dealt with.

        My place (resort concessionaire) bakes the room (and all neighboring rooms) the moment a critter is found. No fucking around with bags or chemicals. 150-160 F (65-70C) for 24 hours kills the lot of them, eggs and all. Letting this go for a month was a bad idea since they might have spread around the building and be much harder to eradicate.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:49PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:49PM (#830639)

          There are super bed bugs evolving to be heat resistant now. I made a sub earlier.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:33PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:33PM (#830667)

            That sub has no link. Google gets articles from May 2018.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:35PM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:35PM (#830668) Journal

            There are super bed bugs evolving to be heat resistant now.

            Well, that's going to suck. But that might be why my employer applies the heat as long as they do now.

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:53PM

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:53PM (#830598)

      People like what? With bedbugs? In old apartment buildings? With Manhattan rent rates, it's not surprising that Apple fanbois working in the store aren't paid enough to live in bedbug free housing.

      As for management giving them the runaround - isn't that basically management's job?

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by vux984 on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:53PM (2 children)

      by vux984 (5045) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @08:53PM (#830599)

      Agreed the hyperbole is pretty through the roof. Sure bedbugs suck, but acting as if they'd seen the four horsemen of the apocalypse is a bit much.

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:05PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:05PM (#830609)

        You're talking about Apple fanbois here. They're a different race than homo sapiens.

      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday April 17 2019, @02:20PM

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @02:20PM (#831030) Journal

        No, it's not hyperbole. I've never had them, thank god, but know many people in New York who have suffered them. It's horrific. You can't sleep, and everything in your place is out to get you.

        Anyone who doesn't run at the sight or mention of bedbugs is a fool.

        --
        Washington DC delenda est.
  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:03PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:03PM (#830608)

    This is one thing it gives you. Bugs.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:07PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:07PM (#830611)

    Ok, and this is news, how?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:22PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:22PM (#830618)

    Someone needs to take these millennial snowflakes out back and euthanize them.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:50PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:50PM (#830640)

      Just release the bed bugs.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:21PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:21PM (#830704)

      Look at this rube, thinks you can euthanize snow. Get a hair dryer dummy!

  • (Score: 2) by turgid on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:01PM

    by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:01PM (#830645) Journal
  • (Score: 0, Troll) by realDonaldTrump on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:01PM (2 children)

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:01PM (#830646) Homepage Journal

    Believe me, as a Hotel Owner I know very well. Bedbugs are HIGHLY OVERRATED. As overrated as Meryl Streep. Who doesn't know me but attacked at the Golden Globes even before my Inauguration. So many times, the guest says, "oh, bedbugs!!!!" But, there are no bedbugs. They have Fake Bedbugs. And we spray very heavily for bedbugs. My kids are running the business now. But when I was running it, I'd say, tell the Bug Guy not to skimp on the bug spray. Tell him, don't worry about the cost. And, don't worry about the Ozone Layer, I want lots and lots of spray. Not too many bedbugs that can survive all the spraying. Possibly ZERO. But, so many people complaining about bedbugs. Because, they want a big discount -- a bug discount -- or even a free room. Those are HORRIBLE people!!!!

    • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by Snow on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:13PM (1 child)

      by Snow (1601) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:13PM (#830654) Journal

      It's amazing that Don Jr. and Eric survived all that spraying being the cockroaches they are.

      • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by Captival on Wednesday April 17 2019, @04:21AM

        by Captival (6866) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @04:21AM (#830821)

        Yeah, just wait until that Mueller Report is completed! That will totally prove how corrupt and evil they are! And just in case it doesn't, I hear Rachel Maddow has their taxes!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:14PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:14PM (#830655)

    20,000 pounds of bedbugs dropped on Manhattan

    Where's Spiderman?

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:24PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @10:24PM (#830660)

      He's raping Aunt May in the sewer while sucking out her blood.

      With great power cums great semen.

    • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:34AM

      by Sulla (5173) on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:34AM (#830734) Journal

      In the last move I saw he was an emo hipster, so I presume he is running around screaming like the Apple employees.

      --
      Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:06PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:06PM (#830692)

    "I shouldn't have to go to work feeling unsafe and unprotected," one worker told The Post.

    This was a female worker, right? I don't think I've _EVER_ heard a male utter such a phrase. (Or has it spread to all millenials?)

    Further, a bug an eighth the size of your fingernail making you feel as if in danger... what.. the.. fuhhhhh....

    • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:14PM (2 children)

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:14PM (#830700) Journal

      Consider the black widow spider. Or the violin spider (much harder to recognize).

      OTOH, bedbugs are really just a big pain. Which isn't to deny that they are a real pain. But size isn't the issue.

      --
      Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:48PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:48PM (#830716)

        Sorry, this is a trivial bug, not a black widow bug. Like an ant. Or an irwig. Or a flea. Or ....

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:17AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:17AM (#830722)

          Bedbugs aren't trivial to get rid of, and like fleas they can spread disease, so they are a public health hazard.

    • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:37AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:37AM (#830736)

      You are under the mistaken impression that millennials have gender. They can be male and female at the same time, and will spew nonsense like this if they are triggered outside of their safe space.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:14PM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:14PM (#830699)

    Just don’t let vagrants in the store.
    Simple solution and much much easier than the alternative:
    Fix homelessness

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:25PM (10 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:25PM (#830705)

      The conservatives won't let us!

      "More taxes?" they ask.
      "YES! How else will we pay for homeless shelters and services?" is the common sense reply.
      "TAXES ARE THEFT!" they scream, with the irony of their mugging not hours later by a desperate homeless person sliding right past their conscious thought processes.

      I'm sure these same people get angry when they see homeless people begging, trying to wash car windows, or rummaging through garbage to get recyclables.

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:41PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @11:41PM (#830713)

        The various levels of government in the US already collect 6.6 trillion dollars every year[1], and there are about half a million homeless in the US.[2]

        If they would just be 1% more efficient they could provide 60 billion dollars per year to the homeless, over $100k per year for each.

        I don't think that lack of taxes is the issue.

        [1] https://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/current_revenue [usgovernmentrevenue.com]
        [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_States [wikipedia.org]

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:41AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:41AM (#830737)

          WTF? You want to pay homeless people $100K per year? It's because of nutjob democrats like you that governments are so inefficient.

          • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:50AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:50AM (#830746)

            I bet you didn't even cry when Notre Dame burned.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:45AM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:45AM (#830740)

        Sanfran tried the "just give them fish" method with paying homeless 500/month to help them out. And it resulted in massive influx of homeless they couldn't afford.

        My local library is unusable by the tax payers because of bedbug and cum infested chairs. I live in a liberal city that votes liberal and has plenty of money to pay for things like this and yet no amount of spending fixes it.

        If you are homeles, you Fucked up. Here are the required steps to be homeless
        >burning bridges with your family
        >burning bridges with your friends

        Random chance can make things worse, but it takes a personal act of burning your bridges to actually put you in that position.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:11AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:11AM (#830721)

      Do we need to fix it? Just put in laundry machines at the shelter for clean sanitary homeless!!

      Or make being dirty a crime, punishable by a bath and laundry service.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 18 2019, @03:53PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 18 2019, @03:53PM (#831687)

        https://orangesky.org.au/what-we-do/ [orangesky.org.au]

        What We Do

        We have a simple formula; we provide a platform for every day Australians to connect through a regular laundry and shower service. The focus is on creating a safe, positive and supportive environment for people who are too often ignored or who feel disconnected from the community. Our volunteers are not social workers or experts on homelessness - they are empathetic listeners and great conversationalists.

        In memory of MDC

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 19 2019, @12:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 19 2019, @12:33PM (#832127)

      How do you clearly identify them?
      How do you evict them without being sued for discrimination?

  • (Score: 2) by ilsa on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:18AM

    by ilsa (6082) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 17 2019, @12:18AM (#830723)

    I'm sure it must be a very jarring experience to have the reality distortion field collapse around you like that, and be dunked head first into the bathwaters of reality.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @01:17AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17 2019, @01:17AM (#830762)

    Bed bugs can be planted anywhere. They are easy to find. Just visit any local khazar jewish home (after putting on a hazard suit) and you will find plenty of them. You will also find rats, big and small. As for Apple, adding to the misery of the poor by closing their door to the less fortunate is heartless and an unworthy thing to do, considering they are one of the richest companies in the world.

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