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posted by mrpg on Saturday April 27 2019, @02:21AM   Printer-friendly
from the OVNI dept.

The US Navy is drafting new rules to report UFO sightings

Are we alone in the universe? The question has been debated for ages. Most recently, US Navy pilots who think they spotted a UFO will be getting guidelines for logging what they've seen.

The US Navy began drafting the new forms after multiple sightings of highly advanced aircraft trespassing on military formations, Politico reported on Tuesday.

"Pilots are upset, and they're trying to help wake up a slumbering system," Chris Mellon, a former deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence and a staffer on the Senate Intelligence Committee, told The Washington Post. Mellon and other pilots reportedly think a new streamlined reporting system could make it more acceptable to report UFOS and ultimately remove the stigma.

The Navy and the United States Air Force said they're taking each report seriously.


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Despite Pentagon statements that it disbanded a once-covert program to investigate unidentified flying objects, the effort remains underway — renamed and tucked inside the Office of Naval Intelligence, where officials continue to study mystifying encounters between military pilots and unidentified aerial vehicles.

Pentagon officials will not discuss the program, which is not classified but deals with classified matters. Yet it appeared last month in a Senate committee report outlining spending on the nation's intelligence agencies for the coming year. The report said the program, the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force, was "to standardize collection and reporting" on sightings of unexplained aerial vehicles, and was to report at least some of its findings to the public within 180 days after passage of the intelligence authorization act.

While retired officials involved with the effort — including Harry Reid, the former Senate majority leader — hope the program will seek evidence of vehicles from other worlds, its main focus is on discovering whether another nation, especially any potential adversary, is using breakout aviation technology that could threaten the United States.

The lede has been buried for your protection. Do not RTFA.

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US Navy Spokesman Acknowledges UFO Videos
The Pentagon Releases Official Footage of UFOs. No, Seriously!


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Ex-Official Who Revealed UFO Project Accuses Pentagon of "Disinformation" Campaign 35 comments

Ex-official who revealed UFO project accuses Pentagon of 'disinformation' campaign

The former Pentagon official who went public about reports of UFOs has filed a complaint with the agency's inspector general claiming a coordinated campaign to discredit him for speaking out — including accusing a top official of threatening to tell people he was "crazy," according to documents reviewed by POLITICO.

Lue Elizondo, a career counterintelligence specialist who was assigned in 2008 to work for a Pentagon program that investigated reports of "unmanned aerial phenomena," filed the 64-page complaint to the independent watchdog on May 3 and has met several times with investigators, according to his legal team.

The claim that the government is trying to discredit him comes weeks before the director of national intelligence and the Pentagon are expected to deliver an unclassified report to Congress about UFOs and the government's strategy for investigating such encounters. The report is expected to include a detailed accounting of the agencies, personnel and surveillance systems that gather and analyze the data.

"What he is saying is there are certain individuals in the Defense Department who in fact were attacking him and lying about him publicly, using the color of authority of their offices to disparage him and discredit him and were interfering in his ability to seek and obtain gainful employment out in the world," said Daniel Sheehan, Elizondo's attorney. "And also threatening his security clearance."

Pentagon UFO videos.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @02:49AM (15 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @02:49AM (#835449)

    There's an Unidentified Farting Object in the White House! It's revolting! The place stinks on ice!

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday April 27 2019, @03:14AM (13 children)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday April 27 2019, @03:14AM (#835455) Homepage

      That's the sound you hear when geriatrics like Hillary shit into their own diapers. There's a brief sucking sound, very faint, followed by a pronounced diaper lining smell that isn't necessarily nasty but smells like convalescent home or preschool. When in close quarters with people like Hillary and Biden, you sense it once every half-hour. People who deal with Hillary and Biden on a regular basis learn to ignore it. The problem is explaining all that to the rest of the populace who don't shit into diapers.

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by Pslytely Psycho on Saturday April 27 2019, @05:59AM (10 children)

        by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Saturday April 27 2019, @05:59AM (#835509)

        Hillary is younger than Trump.
        Trump airs his diapers in public...and his supporters don't even gag, that is one hell of an ability to ignore stench.
        Why is the right so fucking obsessed with Hillary anyway? Is it that in 30 years and a slew of witch hunt investigations you all proved too incompetent to even get her for a parking ticket?

        Vote 666th party!
        Vote Cthulhu 2020.
        Why vote for the lesser of two evils?

        --
        Alex Jones lawyer inspires new TV series: CSI Moron Division.
        • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @12:54PM (8 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @12:54PM (#835573)

          It isn't the right vs left thing that matters, it is about abuse of power. The truth is leaking out: https://youtu.be/R4pNMNcqjyg [youtu.be]

          FISA court (a secret court that shouldn't exist to begin with) has already determined it was lied to after an investigation by Mike Rogers of the the NSA and the Chief Justice of that court. Also that illegal spying via FBI contractors was going on since 2012 with the goal of meddling in the 2016 election in favor of Clinton. Comey, Clapper, Yates, etc indictments pending in the next few months.

          • (Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Saturday April 27 2019, @08:04PM (7 children)

            by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Saturday April 27 2019, @08:04PM (#835695)

            Yeah, sure.
            Faux News, the leader in misinformation and fake news.
            Complaining about possible abuse of power by those sinister leftists, while supporting an even greater abuse of power that openly displays itself.
            Pot calling the kettle black....

            --
            Alex Jones lawyer inspires new TV series: CSI Moron Division.
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @08:12PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @08:12PM (#835701)

              What vague abuse of power are you even referring to? Just like immerman in the thread about Canadian CO2 emissions, you people make up your own wild speculations that immediately solidify to fact in your head.

              • (Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Saturday April 27 2019, @11:50PM

                by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Saturday April 27 2019, @11:50PM (#835764)

                No, that is a false assumption. You know nothing of me. The comment I replied to simply isn't worth a bunch of cites.

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                Alex Jones lawyer inspires new TV series: CSI Moron Division.
            • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @08:13PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @08:13PM (#835703)

              Ya, if there was any actual evidence I would be more concerned about such accusations, but given how crazy faux newz is I can't get too worked up over a theory.

              It is interesting to see EF become more straight forward with his terribleness, maybe now some of his supporters realize he is actually a terrible person and not a master troll.

            • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday April 27 2019, @11:24PM (3 children)

              by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday April 27 2019, @11:24PM (#835760) Journal

              Pot calling the kettle black....

              :-) Yep, works like a charm. Pot and Kettle win reelection over and over and laugh their way to the bank. How easy can it be?

              --
              La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
              • (Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Saturday April 27 2019, @11:53PM (2 children)

                by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Saturday April 27 2019, @11:53PM (#835765)

                I wish you were wrong.
                Full speed ahead to the Idiocracy!

                --
                Alex Jones lawyer inspires new TV series: CSI Moron Division.
                • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday April 28 2019, @12:11AM (1 child)

                  by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday April 28 2019, @12:11AM (#835772) Journal

                  Well, people could prove me wrong, by voting them out.

                  Replace Pot and Kettle with Kang and Kodos (voila! back on topic!)

                  --
                  La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                  • (Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Sunday April 28 2019, @04:56AM

                    by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Sunday April 28 2019, @04:56AM (#835854)

                    Oh yeah, there was a topic wasn't there....

                    Masterful return!

                    --
                    Alex Jones lawyer inspires new TV series: CSI Moron Division.
        • (Score: 2) by rylyeh on Saturday April 27 2019, @04:52PM

          by rylyeh (6726) <{kadath} {at} {gmail.com}> on Saturday April 27 2019, @04:52PM (#835641)

          "Nyarlathotep . . . the crawling chaos . . . I am the last . . . I will tell the audient void. . . ."

          --
          "a vast crenulate shell wherein rode the grey and awful form of primal Nodens, Lord of the Great Abyss."
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @05:29PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @05:29PM (#835647)

        Be smug, your turn is coming.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @11:13PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @11:13PM (#835756)

        Oy! so much for the Mel Brooks reference in the OP...

        Nothing is working
        Send in the nuns!

        People who deal with Hillary and Biden on a regular basis learn to ignore it.

        Yeah, yeah, such is life in a barn... Some people like the smell of hog shit, and most of them walk away with a tidy sum, the ones that get caught, oh well...

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @10:54AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @10:54AM (#835552)

      This is the quality of stuff I hear when I turn on DNC radio. RNC radio has its own issues, but appears to target a slightly more intelligent demographic. It is mostly about how stupid/crazy the DNC people are rather than any relevant topic.

      I say this as part of a study of the divide and conquer techniques used by the republicrats against the US population.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Saturday April 27 2019, @03:01AM (1 child)

    by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Saturday April 27 2019, @03:01AM (#835453)

    Reporting UFO's is probably a good idea, but telling your boss it was definitely an alien space ship might be career limiting.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @11:55AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @11:55AM (#835565)

      UFO just means unidentidied. Then you try to identify it. No real conspiracy involved.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @03:10AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @03:10AM (#835454)

    nothing serious can ever be done with it.
    By the way, the aliens are hiding in Uranus because they know a probe will never be sent there.
    And if by chance one was sent, and they were photographed, the headline could never be printed.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @03:37AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @03:37AM (#835462)

    Clean the lenses.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @11:54PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @11:54PM (#835768)

      No 1: 1970 Disc shaped light between two cloud layers travelling rapidly north (Note: not point light, but Disc shaped..)
      No 2: 1974 Craft resembling something like an old Gloster Meteor in side profile, but with a large elongated mirrored cockpit mid fuselage, polished metal finish body, totally silent.
      No 3: 1977 Disc hovered over school for 15 minutes, seen by at least 500 people including myself.
      No 4: 1981 Nine orange spherical lights in formation, stationary and in motion, 20-25 minutes, seen by at least 9 people.
      No 5+6: 1985 One silent brilliant light stationary over a forest for half an hour, one large 'Christmas Tree Mothership' stationary over the North Sea for 7 minutes
      No 7: 1998 One large 'shape' covered in multiple coloured lights stationary 10ft or so over a tree beside the motorway
      No 8: 1999 Something best described as looking like the F-19 from below heading in the direction of Machrihanish...of course the F-19 doesn't really exist as such..

      I don't know if I should count this one, but

      No 9: 2006 found one on a picture I took with one of my camera phones a couple of years after the event, I only spotted the thing when I transferred the images off the phone and on to the fileserver

      Clean the lenses.

      Ah, If it were only that simple...

      none of the above are positively identified, but that doesn't mean I'm going to start going all Giorgio [wikipedia.org] about them, for the record, bit of an aircraft nerd and have been a member of the amateur astronomer ranks now for several decades, though sadly with increasing local light pollution it's getting more difficult.

      If you want more fun, albeit of the second-hand variety but from people I don't think were bullshitting me

      as I'm typing this, through the window I can see a house over which a large black triangular object hovered silently over for a good 15 minutes or so back in 1997, seen by about 12 people, including my sisters and my niece (who, being them, took time out to make a cup of tea and then got right back to watching it) curiously sitting perfectly in a 'radar shadow area' created by the nearby hills with a view of a couple of naval bases..

      Or the BOAC Comet pilot who hit the bottle a bit harder (hey, he was flying a Comet..) after something he saw in the air..
      Or the old guy who flew Mossies during WWII and who saw Foo fighters..
      Or the guy from Rhodesia who saw Foo fighter type lights within his house investigating various items in his living room..
      Or the two people who spotted Foo fighter type lights playing 'tag' in the woods, but who then got chased by the things when they were spotted.

      Point is, objects which fly, and can't be readily identified do exist, but just because certain people are far too quick to equate UFOs with Aliens, don't be too quick to dismiss all reports of the buggers out of hand.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by patrick on Saturday April 27 2019, @04:14AM (1 child)

    by patrick (3990) on Saturday April 27 2019, @04:14AM (#835478)

    Reporting UFOs is just good practice. If you're in the military, and there's something unidentified flying near you (drones, other aircraft, large balloons, possible missiles, even strange weather patterns), and your team doesn't already know about it, that should probably be reported.

    As for jumping to the conclusion that it's aliens... well Neil deGrasse Tyson says it well. [youtu.be]

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Nerdfest on Saturday April 27 2019, @04:29AM

    by Nerdfest (80) on Saturday April 27 2019, @04:29AM (#835479)

    If it's from the US military these days shouldn't it be:

    Rule 1: No Pooftas!
    Rule 2...

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @04:45AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @04:45AM (#835482)

    UFO: Alien Invasion [ufoai.org] (GPL and Creative Commons xcom game)

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @09:44AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @09:44AM (#835537)

    This guy, again? More evidence of the lack of adequate mental health services in the Veteran's Administration. I'm not saying he's crazy, but, he's crazy.

    (And I am just part, a very small and insignificant part, of the vast Reptilian conspiracy concealing all this, and Pizzagate, from Earthlings.)

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @12:17PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @12:17PM (#835571)

      More likely to be the USAF and Navy covering the side-effects of continues dextroamphetamine use, an oxygen system failing, a live testing of a UAV swarm or yet another acid test conducted on the boys without them knowing about it.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @12:05PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @12:05PM (#835568)

    > "US Navy pilots who think they spotted a UFO will be getting guidelines for logging what they've seen."

    So if they log a UFO they will "get guidelines"? That doesn't sound like much of an incentive.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @05:09PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 27 2019, @05:09PM (#835644)

      The guidelines will be printed on a pink slip.

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