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posted by martyb on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:54AM   Printer-friendly
from the a-whale's-tales dept.

Whale with Harness Could Be Russian Weapon, Say Norwegian Experts

The Guardian:

"We were going to put out nets when we saw a whale swimming between the boats," fisherman Joar Hesten told Norwegian broadcaster NRK. "It came over to us, and as it approached, we saw that it had some sort of harness on it."

The strange behaviour of the whale, which was actively seeking out the vessels and trying to pull straps and ropes from the sides of the boats, as well as the fact it was wearing a tight harness which seemed to be for a camera or weapon, raised suspicions among marine experts that the animal had been given military-grade training by neighbouring Russia. Inside the harness, which has now been removed from the whale, were the words "Equipment of St. Petersburg".

The Russians are winning the race to weaponize sharks whales with laser beams.

Harnessed Beluga May Have Been Part of Quiet Russian Project

A white beluga whale made a splash last week when it was found to be wearing a harness by fisherman in Norway.

Norwegian fishermen discovered a beluga whale wearing a harness off the country’s northern coast last week. The fishermen were fascinated with how tame it was, but there might be a good reason that it was comfortable around humans. Scientists from Norway’s Institute of Marine Research suspect the whale and its harness may be part of an operation cooked up by the Russian military.

Because of the reported tightness of the harnass, scientists were concerned that the whale has been wearing the harness for a very long time which could be dangerous for it.

The scientists tracked down the whale near the town of Ingoy and attempted to remove its harness. Just as the fishermen had reported, the harness looked way too tight, according to Norwegian news outlet NRK

Audun Rikardsen, a professor at the Department of Arctic and Marine Biology at the Arctic University of Norway in Tromsoe, northern Norway stated that the harness itself had a notation inside that reads "Equipment St. Petersberg" and includes a mount for an action camera (but no camera.) Audun contacted scholars in both Norway and Russia, all of which indicated it was not from research or a program any of them were aware of. Audun believes it was most likely the Russian Navy in Murmansk.

Russia does not have a history of using whales for military purposes but the Soviet Union had a full-fledged training program for dolphins.

The Soviet Union used a base in Sevastopol on the Crimean peninsula during the Cold War to train the mammals for military purposes such as searching for mines or other objects and planting explosives. The facility in Crimea was closed following the collapse of the Soviet Union, though unnamed reports shortly after the Russian annexation of Crimea indicated that it had reopened.

While such things are normally kept below the surface, there have been inklings of similar efforts recently

The Russian Defense Ministry published a public tender in 2016 to purchase five dolphins for a training program. The tender did not explain what tasks the dolphins were supposed to perform, but indicated they were supposed to have good teeth. It was taken offline shortly after publication.

Additional Coverage Here.

Google translation of a more in depth Norwegian article here.


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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:57AM (15 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:57AM (#837040)

    Trump knew about this, that is why he eased up on the russian "wahles".

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:11AM (14 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:11AM (#837045)

      Equipment of St. Petersburg

      And was it written in English to make it convincing? To me it sounds like a CIA story they get their "journalist" assets to publish. Of which there are unfortunately many in US satellite countries.

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by RandomFactor on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:29AM (5 children)

        by RandomFactor (3682) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:29AM (#837057) Journal

        Yes, oddly enough. I figured it would be Cyrillic also.

        Here's an image of the harness writing [timeincapp.com]

        Although i would argue that CIA agents that make that kind of rookie mistake are subject to evolutionary pressures faster than the rest of us.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:39AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:39AM (#837060)

          I doubt is anyone at that level. It is probably just a general bounty put out to cause shit and this is another "jesse smollet" level bs fake news result.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:11AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:11AM (#837095)

            The offensive-to-Islam video they brought out to blame for the "spontaneous attack" on the US embassy in Tripoli had a similar air of a C-team effort.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:42AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:42AM (#837062)

          How do you connect that pic to this story?

          • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:19PM

            by RandomFactor (3682) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:19PM (#837221) Journal

            I just googled the story until I got one with a picture of the harness writing in it.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:46PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:46PM (#837429)

          What kind of "amateur" manufacturer puts the logo on the side with the plastic injection holes?

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:10AM (3 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:10AM (#837069) Journal

        Glad I'm not the only one who thought of that. Are we paranoid, or just paying attention?

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        • (Score: 2) by Farkus888 on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:27AM

          by Farkus888 (5159) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:27AM (#837124)

          I thought the same thing looking at the Venezuela story. Who doesn't assume every coup on the planet is the CIA though? Simplest explanation is that the whale got stuck in random garbage and was trying to scrape it off on any random nearby object. That gets a lot fewer clicks though.

        • (Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:32AM

          by Bot (3902) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:32AM (#837128) Journal

          OTOH if you mount an operation in the open and purposefully plant glaring inconsistencies, then you can blame the other side for having tried to pull a false flag. "we russkies we no speak english not our stuff"

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        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday May 01 2019, @12:56PM

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @12:56PM (#837200) Journal

          There is no level of paranoia which is unjustified anymore.

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      • (Score: 2) by coolgopher on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:37AM (1 child)

        by coolgopher (1157) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:37AM (#837103)

        Off the shelf part intended for the international market?

        I don't see the alleged "of" in the photo of the actual part, just a logo with EQUIPMENT and ST. PETERSBURG around it.

        • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:23PM

          by RandomFactor (3682) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:23PM (#837225) Journal

          Different stories say "Equipment St. Petersberg" and "Equipment of St. Petersberg" I don't see the 'of' in the picture.

          I assumed that difference was just translation at first, but it looks like it isn't translated after all.

          I suspect the 'of' is just someone's mind unconsciously adding it in to make it read better although it isn't on harness itself.

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      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by khallow on Wednesday May 01 2019, @11:30AM (1 child)

        by khallow (3766) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @11:30AM (#837175) Journal
        I would think St. Petersburg, Florida, not St. Petersburg, Russia. The US does similar experiments and the whale would have plenty of time to get around.
        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday May 01 2019, @11:41AM

          by khallow (3766) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @11:41AM (#837176) Journal
          For example [nytimes.com]:

          The United States Navy has studied marine mammals, including beluga whales, since the 1960s and has trained them to carry out a variety of tasks, like performing recovery operations and finding underwater mines.

          And if it really was carrying a "GoPro" mount, that would seem to increase the likelihood it's somebody else's project, unless the Russians are using such equipment.

  • (Score: 2) by jelizondo on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:14AM (3 children)

    by jelizondo (653) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:14AM (#837048) Journal

    Wait for the laser sharks, them are the secret weapon

    The U.S. Navy dolphins [wikipedia.org] will not last the first encounter!

    Mua-ha-ha-ha

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:01AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:01AM (#837113)

      Sharks, especially White sharks, are too dumb to deploy as weapons, just as White Americans are too dumb to deploy as soldiers. They always end up shooting or eating their own comrades! This is why the US Military is now filtering for White Superemist tats, and logos, and stupid things said, to exclude these from the great army of world domination, non-racist. And this Mother-fucker child murdering Seal Team bastard Gallagher [navytimes.com] needs to die the death of his victims. War Crimes, people! Despite the US attempt to recluse itself from the ICC, war crimes have universal jurisdiction, any nation can try you for war crimes no matter what, just like you were the Nazi scum you emulate. Second, No Statues of Limitations! It may be when you are eighty fucking years old, working for Motor City, and they find out you were "Ivan the Terrible" in Guantanamo Stalag 13? You are still going down, you motherfucker child-murder. And the war-criminals returning from the Vietnam War Crime did not like the Hippies calling them baby killers? Turn out, they never did, but he soldiers returning expect that they would, because they were. PTSD, Moral damage. Seek expiation. Admit you were used. There is a way out.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:18PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:18PM (#837391)

        War crimes are bullshit. If i capture you in a war you are kept alive until i have no use for you. Render medical aid to someone i just risked my life to shoot? Yeah, fuck you, goatfucker. Fucking die already.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:35PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:35PM (#837467)

          I see you took one to the knee. Here, let me "help" you with my KaBaR, you sniveling coward!

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by srobert on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:22AM (1 child)

    by srobert (4803) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:22AM (#837054)

    Whale with harness almost work 'til stupid moose and squirrel foiled perfect plan.

    • (Score: 2) by driverless on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:55AM

      by driverless (4770) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:55AM (#837079)

      Was this [wordpress.com] the Russian whale in the harness?

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:09AM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:09AM (#837068) Journal

    Baby Beluga in the cold North Sea
    Spies for the Russians and the K-G-B!
    Heaven above and the sea below
    He's just a little white whale on the go!

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:54AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:54AM (#837078)

    Source [fandom.com]

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by RamiK on Wednesday May 01 2019, @11:09AM (7 children)

    by RamiK (1813) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @11:09AM (#837167)

    Maybe they kept them to calibrate new sonars. Or train the operators. Or test and mitigate the effects of the sonar on the animals as some serious concerns for their welfare has been raised over the past few years due to the sonars. Or improve their own sonar by studying on how the animals use it...

    But nope. Around here people are calling fake news this, laser sharks that... I mean, if at least you'd throw a few tech buzzwords and claim they were used to train a new sonar AI for smart torpedoes or something... Even an Aqua-man film reference would have been fine...

    But a CIA false flag operation involving faking a news piece about a harnessed soviet fish*? WTF you people are smoking? Other than cod and salmon I mean...

    *and in 3, 2, 1...

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    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday May 01 2019, @12:54PM (4 children)

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @12:54PM (#837199) Journal

      People are smoking cod and salmon? Norway!

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      • (Score: 2) by Muad'Dave on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:05PM (3 children)

        by Muad'Dave (1413) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:05PM (#837205)

        > People are smoking cod and salmon?

        Yeah, but they're hard as hell to keep lit.

        • (Score: 3, Touché) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:28PM (2 children)

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:28PM (#837231) Journal

          now we know why they invented lutefisk

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          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:45PM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:45PM (#837357) Journal

            Yeah, as an area-denial weapon.

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          • (Score: 3, Funny) by DeVilla on Thursday May 02 2019, @04:09AM

            by DeVilla (5354) on Thursday May 02 2019, @04:09AM (#837667)

            Lutefisk, a traditional Norwegian fish product, was invented by the Vikings as an easier way of instilling fear in their enemies than raiding and pillaging. It is traditionally inflicted upon young Norwegians by their grandparents, and is described by one famous author as 'the world's largest chunk of phlegm.'

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by HiThere on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:25PM (1 child)

      by HiThere (866) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:25PM (#837348) Journal

      One thing we're doing is noticing that there's more than one St. Petersburg. And that the photos on the net are in the Roman alphabet rather than Cyrillic. So why *assume* it's Russian? (Check out the name of the Russian city on Wikipedia. It's varied a lot, but it's never been "St. Petersburg", though that's the common English name for it. In Roman letters the current name is "Sankt-Peterburg".

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      • (Score: 2) by legont on Thursday May 02 2019, @12:10AM

        by legont (4179) on Thursday May 02 2019, @12:10AM (#837607)

        Yep. St. Petersburg is, typically, in Florida. Russian one is either Sankt-Peterburg or Saint-Petersburg. Little details that lead to a spy catch. St. is way too American.

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