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posted by Fnord666 on Monday May 13 2019, @12:32PM   Printer-friendly
from the glow-in-the-dark-film dept.

In January 1951 a geiger counter at Kodak's headquarters in New York registered readings 25 times higher than normal during a snowstorm. It turned out that on the 27th of January the first nuclear test occurred at the Nevada Proving Grounds location.

In 1952, Kodak notified the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) about its findings. The commission dismissed Kodak's concerns, even allowing Kodak to give a press release about radioactive snow. Kodak was told that the radiation in the snow wasn't harmful to humans or animals, which it relayed in the press release.

Kodak would eventually go on to threaten to sue the United States government for the nuclear tests due to the damage it was causing to their X-ray film. The U.S. government and Kodak eventually worked out a deal where the AEC would notify Kodak of future tests so precautions could be made to protect the film. In return, Kodak was to keep silent about the nuclear testing.

Source:
https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/kodak-had-weapons-grade-uranium-in-their-basement-6a6c15d5677f


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  • (Score: 2) by AssCork on Monday May 13 2019, @02:09PM (5 children)

    by AssCork (6255) on Monday May 13 2019, @02:09PM (#843011) Journal

    How much fuel is this going to provide for the incoming generation of conspiracy-nuts?

    I mean, just look at their patent portfoli!

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Bot on Monday May 13 2019, @04:21PM (4 children)

      by Bot (3902) on Monday May 13 2019, @04:21PM (#843049) Journal

      Conspiracies have always existed, it's on deniers to prove a paradigm shift occurred so that people stopped conspiring. Whether one particular conspiracy takes place or not is irrelevant.

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      • (Score: 2) by istartedi on Monday May 13 2019, @08:57PM (3 children)

        by istartedi (123) on Monday May 13 2019, @08:57PM (#843152) Journal

        While it's true that conspiracies have always existed, when we study historical verified conspiracies, the sequence of events that brings them to light bears little resemblance to the conspiracy nut phenomenon.

        Real conspiracies are often actionable, and lawyers for victims are often the first to bring them to light by filing court documents. Compare and contrast this with conspiracy nut stories, which spread like memes for decades, with either no litigation or frivolous suits.

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        • (Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday May 15 2019, @08:47AM (2 children)

          by Bot (3902) on Wednesday May 15 2019, @08:47AM (#843739) Journal

          "...Today, Mariani, like the other 9-11 plaintiffs, is under a gag order which prevents her from speaking about her ongoing lawsuit. Likewise, thousands of employees of federal agencies like the Federal Aviation Administration have received gag orders in the mail keeping them from telling what they know about the events of 9-11.

          After more than four years, however, Mariani’s determined pursuit for the truth about 9-11 through the court system has failed to yield any answers or discovery about who is responsible for 9-11. Today, she is no closer to obtaining what she has stated she wanted from the beginning—a trial by jury..."
          www.americanfreepress.net/html/9-11_lawsuits_suppressed.html

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          • (Score: 2) by istartedi on Wednesday May 15 2019, @04:31PM (1 child)

            by istartedi (123) on Wednesday May 15 2019, @04:31PM (#843878) Journal

            Holy crap. "It was on the Internet so it must be true". Skimming that linked article, it invokes the idea that Zionists are somehow responsible for 9/11. When I follow the link back to the web site that published that, it's a mess of hot garbage. Most of it has a right-wing bent with headlines like:

            Hillary’s Missing Emails Found in Obama Oval Office, Says FBI

            Deep State Conditions Public for War

            and Who’s After Golan Heights Riches? [americanfreepress.net]

            You deal with a lot of odd arguments and sources on the Internet, but I did nazi this coming.

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            • (Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday May 15 2019, @10:26PM

              by Bot (3902) on Wednesday May 15 2019, @10:26PM (#843990) Journal

              Any agenda has to rest on some truth, there are more famous sites talking about lawsuits against FBI, google around. Plus how do you know what's in Obama's office?

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by RS3 on Monday May 13 2019, @02:15PM

    by RS3 (6367) on Monday May 13 2019, @02:15PM (#843015)

    When I was a kid in the 1960s and '70s, my mom used to forbid us to eat any snow. She always said it was radioactive and full of pollution. She had a bio-chem degree and did significant research in the 1950s under top-level researchers and somehow she must have known. Maybe the research community knew about it and kept it quiet.

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 13 2019, @03:02PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 13 2019, @03:02PM (#843026)

    TFA points out that Kodak was a technical powerhouse at one time. About 20 years ago, a friend worked in one of their divisions (near Rochester) making large (meter+ diameter) lightweight mirrors...near as I could tell (he had a security clearance) these were used in spy satellite cameras. He would go as far as saying that they were a large consumer of special glass with (near?) zero temp coefficient of expansion.

     

  • (Score: 2) by Muad'Dave on Monday May 13 2019, @03:28PM (3 children)

    by Muad'Dave (1413) on Monday May 13 2019, @03:28PM (#843039)

    I thought the inadvertent exposure of film was called "fogging", not "flogging".

    • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Monday May 13 2019, @03:54PM (2 children)

      by RS3 (6367) on Monday May 13 2019, @03:54PM (#843044)

      I'm pretty sure you're right. I'd chalk it up to Freudian Slip. The problem with spell-check...

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 13 2019, @05:13PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 13 2019, @05:13PM (#843074)

        I thought it was fogging too, and tried searching...but it was polluted with many S&M flogging links.

        Instead I went to the Pop Science article linked from TFA and found:
        > Black exposed spots on the film, or "fogging," had rendered it unusable.

        TFA author needs a flogging!

  • (Score: 2) by SubiculumHammer on Monday May 13 2019, @03:29PM (2 children)

    by SubiculumHammer (5191) on Monday May 13 2019, @03:29PM (#843040)

    thought for a second that they performed entanglement (quantum) with Uranium in Nuclear Weapons. I was like oh shit, a new weapon.

    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday May 13 2019, @09:09PM (1 child)

      by Freeman (732) on Monday May 13 2019, @09:09PM (#843155) Journal

      Weapons have a basis in the real world. Quantum (entanglement or otherwise) is quite solidly in the theoretical.

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      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday May 14 2019, @03:31AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 14 2019, @03:31AM (#843254) Journal

        Quantum (entanglement or otherwise) is quite solidly in the theoretical.

        It's experimentally observed with such things as the two slot experiments where, for example, one can observe single photons passing through two closely placed slots and creating interference patterns - a simple form of quantum self-entanglement.

        There are a number of standard experimental ways to create entangled particles. For a notable example, the "quantum teleportation" tricks that demonstrate quantum entanglement of various particles (usually electrons and photons) on human spatial scales (some entanglement attempts reach kilometers apart or more before breaking).

  • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Monday May 13 2019, @04:20PM (1 child)

    by captain normal (2205) on Monday May 13 2019, @04:20PM (#843048)

    The first nuclear test in the U.S, was in July 1945 at the White Sands Proving Grounds in New Mexico, around 550 miles from Las Vegas. This was named Trinity. TFA states, "The Trinity Test site was only 100 miles away from Las Vega". Wrong!
    The first nuclear test at the Nevada Test Site was in January 1951. Which makes sense as winter storms move west to east so would account for radioactive snow in the Midwest.
    I thought at first the summary was in error as I knew that the first A-bomb test was in White Sands in 1945. The author of TFA makes reference to tests and film fogging in 1945. But for some reason then states that the Trinity Test was in Nevada.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_(nuclear_test) [wikipedia.org]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Test_Site [wikipedia.org]

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 14 2019, @12:49PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 14 2019, @12:49PM (#843390)

      I know. Fry's grandpa Enid was there.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 13 2019, @06:04PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 13 2019, @06:04PM (#843090)

    goosh what luck that humans aren't made from x-ray film material. we can continue to pursue nuclear reactors
    in all shapes and sizes since modern cameras don't need film anymore!
    opening them safe nuclear cans up for refueling will only harm some x-ray sensitive worms. ..

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday May 14 2019, @02:58AM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 14 2019, @02:58AM (#843241) Journal

      goosh what luck that humans aren't made from x-ray film material. we can continue to pursue nuclear reactors in all shapes and sizes since modern cameras don't need film anymore!

      I guess it's "luck" that reactors weren't responsible for x-ray film fogging in the first place.

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