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posted by Fnord666 on Friday May 24 2019, @09:58AM   Printer-friendly
from the who-would-have-thought-it dept.

Submitted via IRC for AndyTheAbsurd

Men initiate sex more than three times as often as women do in a long-term, heterosexual relationship. However, previous research shows that sex happens far more often whenever the woman takes the initiative, suggesting that it is the woman who thus sets the limits to a greater extent than men do.

Psychologists at NTNU have investigated what other factors play a role for frequency of intercourse in couples in long-term relationships.

Two factors are decisive in how often women take the initiative at all.

Attitudes to casual sex
[...]Got to have passion

[...]The study included 92 couples aged 19 to 30. Relationships varied in length from one month to nine years, with an average of just under two years. The couples had sex two to three times a week on average.

Source: https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-05/nuos-ptl051319.php


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @10:15AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @10:15AM (#847001)

    Fuck you, Mr. Plow!!!!

    More incel clickbait! Pathetic!

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by bradley13 on Friday May 24 2019, @10:43AM (6 children)

    by bradley13 (3053) on Friday May 24 2019, @10:43AM (#847005) Homepage Journal

    On average, men want sex more often than women do. News at 11. This will come as a surprise to essentially no one, guy or girl, who has ever been in a long-term heterosexual relationship. BTW, here's a link to the actual study [apa.org] (paywall).

    Sex is more likely to happen if the woman initiates, than if the man does? That's "duh". The typical 20-something-year-old guy is up for sex almost any time. So whenever his partner is interested enough to initiate, guess what?

    There's a lot of weirdness in the study. They want to talk about "long-term" relationships, but the average length of the relationships they studied was 21 months, and some were as new as one month. Moreover, they only studied university students: no one in their study was over the age of 30. So the study was neither about long-term relationships, nor was it representative of the population at large.

    But it got them a publication, so everything's good.

    --
    Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by bzipitidoo on Friday May 24 2019, @12:52PM (1 child)

      by bzipitidoo (4388) on Friday May 24 2019, @12:52PM (#847043) Journal

      Confirmation is always nice for things long guessed but not known for certain.

      But yes, no one over the age of 30 is a problem with the study.

      > But it got them a publication, so everything's good.

      The part that I find most annoying is the hugely uneven publication standards in science. Peer review is pretty hit and miss. They're flooded with mediocre papers to review thanks to Publish or Perish. Reviewers take mental shortcuts. Almost seems like they just count the number of lines devoted to formulas and proofs, all too much like trying to measure software engineering productivity by counting lines of code. Just a few of the many problems in academic publishing.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Freeman on Friday May 24 2019, @02:07PM

      by Freeman (732) on Friday May 24 2019, @02:07PM (#847066) Journal

      Also, 92 couples seems like a pretty small study.

      --
      Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Alfred on Friday May 24 2019, @02:13PM

      by Alfred (4006) on Friday May 24 2019, @02:13PM (#847070) Journal
      When compared to the tinder hook up culture, 21 months is a really long time
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @02:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @02:33PM (#847085)

      Remember the throw-away course to fulfill humanities requirement? All you do is answer a few surveys and you get an A (unless you are an absolute numbnut).

      Psych depts use the course to manufacture these "researches".

    • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Friday May 24 2019, @07:51PM

      by krishnoid (1156) on Friday May 24 2019, @07:51PM (#847318)

      On average, men want sex more often than women do.

      Sure ... but how much of that is driven by passion, and how much of it is just ... axiomatic?

  • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Friday May 24 2019, @10:49AM (5 children)

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Friday May 24 2019, @10:49AM (#847008) Homepage Journal

    Without energy you have nothing. Nothing great in the World has been accomplished without passion. NOTHING!!!!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @01:18PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @01:18PM (#847046)

      Without passion you don't have energy.

      Heck, that's what the utility companies are for, no? My power distributor should be full of passion to the brim.
      Can you imagine how much passion a nuke bomb has? Oh, dear, just don't fuck with it

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @03:52PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @03:52PM (#847124)

        Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.

        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @07:39PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @07:39PM (#847310)

          Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here.

          Thank you for identifying yourself. It takes bravery and integrity to admit your error. I blame you for the tragedy we are going through as a nation.

          This is hilarious watching Trump crash and burn.

          Yeah. Hilarious, if you like dumpster fires. Wheee!!!

          But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.

          I got bad news for you: he already has them. Everywhere he goes 24/7/365 there is a guy following him around with the codes, ready for his use at a moment's notice. No joke. Sleep well tonight.

      • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Friday May 24 2019, @05:55PM

        by bob_super (1357) on Friday May 24 2019, @05:55PM (#847227)

        For many women, there's enough passion in a pair of AAs (R6s for those across the pond).

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by looorg on Friday May 24 2019, @01:27PM

      by looorg (578) on Friday May 24 2019, @01:27PM (#847048)

      So is it energy, passion or both when you grab them by the pussy?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @10:51AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @10:51AM (#847009)

    Men initiate sex more than three times as often as women do in a long-term, heterosexual relationship. However, previous research shows that sex happens far more often whenever the woman takes the initiative, suggesting that it is the woman who thus sets the limits to a greater extent than men do.

    All true in my household. If anything, understated.

    Psychologists at NTNU have investigated what other factors play a role for frequency of intercourse in couples in long-term relationships. Two factors are decisive in how often women take the initiative at all.

    Attitudes to casual sex
    [...]Got to have passion

    Attitude to casual sex? Me why no, she NO! She jealous, although I cannot really understand why.
    Passion... what's that, a fruit?

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @12:00PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @12:00PM (#847026)

    The fastest way to end a passionate relationship is to get married. Personal experience here, but once a woman feels like she has you, she will be far less receptive to your sexual desires and needs. This is why the best bet is to keep two or three women in your love life and avoid marriage and other long term commitments like the plague.

    • (Score: 4, Touché) by Alfred on Friday May 24 2019, @02:16PM

      by Alfred (4006) on Friday May 24 2019, @02:16PM (#847072) Journal
      We all know that you are not posting about keeping "two or three women in your love life" from your actual personal experience.

      Possible counter point to my above assertion: Unless they are made of pixels or mostly air.
    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Snow on Friday May 24 2019, @03:16PM

      by Snow (1601) on Friday May 24 2019, @03:16PM (#847099) Journal

      Marriage can be a beautiful thing.

      Look at Gaaark for example. He's crazy about his wife. He's lucky to have her and she's lucky to have him.

      It's not all about the sex. Having a partner to go through life with and share joy and misfortune with is a gift. Knowing someone has your back is amazing.

      I think that many people get married for the wrong reasons. I feel you should get married because you cannot imagine a scenario where you wouldn't want this person in your life. If they cheat on you, lose their job, get sick, stop wanting sex -- that you would still want to be with them in some major way. Your wife should be your best friend and life partner. A teammate that together you navigate the world.

      Personally, I would not be happy without a committed relationship. What is the point in life if you don't have someone to share it with? I want someone I can tell about the mundane things that happen, and someone what will comfort me when I'm beaten down.

    • (Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Friday May 24 2019, @03:55PM (1 child)

      by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 24 2019, @03:55PM (#847129)

      Two or three? Why in FSM's name would you want to deal with that much drama? One was bad enough, and she wasn't that bad TBH.

      --
      The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @05:58PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @05:58PM (#847232)

        Interview with a polygamous Mormon wife, they asked how she felt about sharing her husband with six or so other wives. She responded, "I don't think I could manage him by myself!" Suddenly, polygamy stopped seeming like a good idea.

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @07:06PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @07:06PM (#847294)

      For all the overprotective fathers out there, researchers have identified a substance that, once consumed, will eliminate the urge for their daughters to have sex: wedding cake

    • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Friday May 24 2019, @07:36PM

      by krishnoid (1156) on Friday May 24 2019, @07:36PM (#847307)

      Then the answer's simple: list out your preferences in java/ruby, compiled/scripting, python/perl, emacs/vi, and android/iOS (oh and liberal/conservative). Then find someone who really likes the opposite, and watch the chemistry take off (producing volatile, combustible compounds) and the sparks fly! Make sure you're both wearing protective gear first though.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 25 2019, @04:25AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 25 2019, @04:25AM (#847497)

      The fastest way to end a passionate relationship is to have kids, which you don't have to have. And it's not just women who give up on relationships once they feel secure, but men too.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by looorg on Friday May 24 2019, @01:38PM (1 child)

    by looorg (578) on Friday May 24 2019, @01:38PM (#847050)

    Oh it's a study made in Norway. The weather is probably not the only thing frigid there.

    However, previous research shows that sex happens far more often whenever the woman takes the initiative

    "The most remarkable finding is perhaps that it's only the woman's attitudes to casual sex that affect the frequency of sexual intercourse," says Kennair.

    It probably isn't the only thing, it's just that we normally classify it as rape (or some degree of sexual assault) otherwise.

    The longer the relationship had lasted, the less often the couples had sex.

    It's nice that they state the obvious so we know. But it does open up the question is it relationship age that makes it less often or is it just age? As in perhaps with age other things just become more important. While at a younger age it was the main goal.

    But as noted by other the age thing is a bit of an issue, also that they education level and well it's in Norway, it might translate over to a few of the other nordic countries but beyond that the generalizations might become very dicey.

    • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Friday May 24 2019, @07:38PM

      by krishnoid (1156) on Friday May 24 2019, @07:38PM (#847309)

      Interesting that they finally found a casual relationship leading from the woman's attitude to the frequency of the sex. I see a confusing, randomly misspelled and poorly refereed article up for an Ig Nobel prize soon.

  • (Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Friday May 24 2019, @02:02PM

    by Rupert Pupnick (7277) on Friday May 24 2019, @02:02PM (#847063) Journal

    ...scientists predict that the sun will rise tomorrow!

  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday May 24 2019, @03:47PM (1 child)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 24 2019, @03:47PM (#847120) Journal

    Does this make some sort of a beginning, of explaining why so many people stay in abusive relationships? Or, hop from one abusive relationship to another? She's looking for passion, and when the passion begins to wane, she jumps into another passionate relationship?

    To be clear - I'm not making a statement here - I'm asking a question. So many things women do, simply don't make sense. Putting up with an abusive man is one of those things. One of the biggest things, actually.

    • (Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Friday May 24 2019, @03:59PM

      by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 24 2019, @03:59PM (#847132)

      That makes some sense to me, maybe a combination of that and Stockholm syndrome?

      --
      The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams.
  • (Score: 2) by legont on Friday May 24 2019, @04:55PM (2 children)

    by legont (4179) on Friday May 24 2019, @04:55PM (#847169)

    Many different cultures discovered this simple rule many years ago.

    --
    "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
    • (Score: 2) by Nuke on Friday May 24 2019, @07:52PM (1 child)

      by Nuke (3162) on Friday May 24 2019, @07:52PM (#847319)

      That only adds up if you strangle two thirds of the males at birth.

      • (Score: 2) by legont on Friday May 24 2019, @09:37PM

        by legont (4179) on Friday May 24 2019, @09:37PM (#847368)

        Typically males have higher mortality. Then there are wars. Then a nice theory that competition drives progress.

        More peaceful solution though was always known - the oldest profession.

        But let me remind a more controversial idea. A wife has to provide sex for her husband even when she does not want it; or bad things happen to the society.

        --
        "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Hartree on Friday May 24 2019, @05:31PM (1 child)

    by Hartree (195) on Friday May 24 2019, @05:31PM (#847197)

    Pass the brain bleach please. I may need a double dose.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @06:38PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @06:38PM (#847278)

      Well, Passion Trumps Love for our great Pussy Grabber Trump also.... (He clearly has no knowledge of what love actually is other than love of self.)

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @07:04PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 24 2019, @07:04PM (#847292)

    Should be "Passion Triumphs Love for Sex in Relationships" instead of Trumps sex life.

  • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Friday May 24 2019, @07:44PM

    by krishnoid (1156) on Friday May 24 2019, @07:44PM (#847314)

    I gotta wonder how the dynamic compares in those relationships, and if there's less sex but the same amount of passion, how and where that passion is expressed more. My first guess is arguments about editor and programming language preferences, but my worldview is probably a little skewed.

    If only we had an active commenter in the small population on this site who could provide some perspective -- who knows.

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