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posted by chromas on Saturday June 29 2019, @02:22AM   Printer-friendly
from the Redmondheit-451 dept.

Just a few months ago in April, Microsoft announced it would be shutting down its DRM-locked eBook store. On Monday, July 1st, it will finally shut down the DRM servers that allow people to read the books they purchased there.

According to Microsoft's FAQ on the shutdown

What happens to books I've already purchased?

You can continue to read books you've purchased until July 2019 when they will no longer be available, and you will receive a full refund of the original purchase price.

There's more - even free ebooks will go away

What happens to my free books?

You can continue to read free books you've downloaded until July 2019 when they will no longer be accessible.

This also applies if the book is out of copyright, free, or has been annotated with your own notes and research.

According to author Cory Doctorow, who predicted this very event in a speech to Microsoft Research 15 years ago:

This puts the difference between DRM-locked media and unencumbered media into sharp contrast. I have bought a lot of MP3s over the years, thousands of them, and many of the retailers I purchased from are long gone, but I still have the MP3s. Likewise, I have bought many books from long-defunct booksellers and even defunct publishers, but I still own those books.

In the event a purchaser still has the same credit card they purchased an eBook from Microsoft with up to seven years ago, refunds for the original purchase price (not inflation adjusted) will be credited back to it. Those that do not still have the original purchase mechanism on file will receive a credit on the same virtual store that is removing their books.

Cold comfort considering a virtual book burning won't keep you very warm.


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  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @02:28AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @02:28AM (#861205)

    "Reads for sure"

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by aristarchus on Saturday June 29 2019, @02:49AM (5 children)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday June 29 2019, @02:49AM (#861210) Journal

    Farenheit Minus 451? Or did they pull that book as well?

    I have an original book by Euclid, he's long dead and we did not really have "publishers" back in the day, only copyists, but the book still works, even though the papyrus is getting a bit brittle.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @06:14AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @06:14AM (#861263)
      −451°F is 4.8 K. That's just a bit above the boiling point of liquid helium (4.2 K).
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @06:26AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @06:26AM (#861265)

      Indeed, even physical copies are not forever.

      • (Score: 1, Troll) by aristarchus on Saturday June 29 2019, @10:03AM (1 child)

        by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday June 29 2019, @10:03AM (#861294) Journal

        Well, no, but you just copy them before they start to degrade, with, you know, error correction! One of my favorite Bibble stories is how Jesus was crucified, died, and was buried, but on the third day, he arose, and saw his shadow, and said, "Yup, six more weeks of winter!" You see, error correction is only correct if you know what the error you were correcting against was, which means you knew already what the original was, but if that is what you are trying to correct. . . it is like TMB and libertarianism, a twisted, Okie version of libertariantardism from Groundhog Day.

        • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Tuesday July 02 2019, @01:22AM

          by Pino P (4721) on Tuesday July 02 2019, @01:22AM (#862243) Journal

          One of my favorite Bibble stories is how Jesus was crucified, died, and was buried, but on the third day, he arose, and saw his shadow, and said, "Yup, six more weeks of winter!"

          That's not what my copy says. In mine, Jesus died, notified the inmates in Tartarus (spirit prison), rose on the third day, and miraculously granted a rabbit the ability to reason and speak [pineight.com]. This way, the rabbit could spread the enduring spiritual gifts of "faith, hop, and love" (1 Corinthians 13) by delivering eggs dyed red to represent Jesus's shed blood.

    • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Saturday June 29 2019, @01:51PM

      by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 29 2019, @01:51PM (#861316) Journal

      It's just a submission quirk - when you fill out the Department field on a submission, the accepted version has the spaces in the department field replaced with dashes when it is displayed.
       
      So if you put in 'Fahrenheit 451', you get 'From the Fahrenheit-451 dept.'

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  • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Saturday June 29 2019, @02:55AM (12 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Saturday June 29 2019, @02:55AM (#861211) Journal

    This will be devastating for what might actually be zero people!

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Saturday June 29 2019, @03:13AM (11 children)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday June 29 2019, @03:13AM (#861217)

      C'mon they sold what, like 50 Zune players? - at least a few of those people read...

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      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by ilPapa on Saturday June 29 2019, @04:02AM (10 children)

        by ilPapa (2366) on Saturday June 29 2019, @04:02AM (#861230) Journal

        C'mon they sold what, like 50 Zune players?

        Man, don't you talk shit about my Zune. I still use my ZuneHD to listen to paranormal podcasts as I fall asleep. It's one of the most durable and useful pieces of tech I've ever owned. I like them so much that I went on ebay and bought a couple used ones to keep in case the first one broke (I'm not joking, this is absolutely true). Unfortunately, the first one never broke and I'm still using it every night and there are two other ZuneHDs sitting in my drawer. The PC software hasn't been updated in like a decade, but everything still works fine. It reads the RSS feeds of my favorite podcasts and downloads them onto the Zune automagically and no wi-fi or cell service is required. It saves where I left off so I can pick up where I left off.

        I mean, fuck Microsoft. They're awful. But not because of the Zune.

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        • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Saturday June 29 2019, @05:23PM (2 children)

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday June 29 2019, @05:23PM (#861380)

          I like them so much that I went on ebay and bought a couple used ones to keep in case the first one broke (I'm not joking, this is absolutely true).

          This is great for you, and I'm honestly happy for you regardless of who made it.

          Still, you gotta admit, not many people bought into the Zune - just like the Windows Phones.

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          • (Score: 2) by ilPapa on Saturday June 29 2019, @08:23PM (1 child)

            by ilPapa (2366) on Saturday June 29 2019, @08:23PM (#861423) Journal

            Still, you gotta admit, not many people bought into the Zune

            I realize that. I remember years ago getting so frustrated with iTunes that I just went out and bought a Zune. It's an anachronistic bit of tech for sure. My daughter's friends have a good laugh at the fact that I listen to a Zune.

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        • (Score: 2) by toddestan on Sunday June 30 2019, @01:51AM (2 children)

          by toddestan (4982) on Sunday June 30 2019, @01:51AM (#861505)

          Isn't the battery long gone in the Zune by now? Or have you replaced it? Or does it still work off of wall power if the battery is toast?

          I still have, and occasionally use, my iRiver MP3 player from the early 2000's. I paid good money for it too, as that was back when 512MB was a considerable amount of flash memory. Being able to hold a few albums worth of music makes it still useful. It runs off of a AA battery, so it should keep working basically forever.

          • (Score: 2) by ilPapa on Sunday June 30 2019, @03:57AM (1 child)

            by ilPapa (2366) on Sunday June 30 2019, @03:57AM (#861540) Journal

            Isn't the battery long gone in the Zune by now? Or have you replaced it? Or does it still work off of wall power if the battery is toast?

            You would think so, but no. And further, the phone jack has never failed or gotten wonky. This thing just will not fail. Once in a great while, I have to reboot it, but other than that, it's been some of the most reliable tech I've ever known.

            No other mp3 (and lossless wma) player I've ever used (and I've tried a lot of them) has come close to being this good.

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            • (Score: 2) by iWantToKeepAnon on Monday July 01 2019, @03:46PM

              by iWantToKeepAnon (686) on Monday July 01 2019, @03:46PM (#861989) Homepage Journal
              I used a gigabeat for decades; although with the rockbox os so I could use linux instead of ms. The only reason I stopped using it was the headphone jack did finally develop a short. The battery and controls were all still fine. I kinda miss it now but using my droid phone is more convenient. : )
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        • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday July 01 2019, @05:04PM

          by Freeman (732) on Monday July 01 2019, @05:04PM (#862061) Journal

          I still have an ancient iRock MP3 player kicking around. I've had MP3 players since, but they've died. That iRock I bought in the Summer of 1999 (I think it's the 520 model.), still works and is the only piece of tech I bought that utilizes the old Smart Media Card memory card. Both of which still function and that MP3 player has seriously long battery life on a single AAA battery. Hold's a whopping 128MB 1/2 split with built-in and the SMC.

          My daughter is fascinated by a tiny device that plays her some music.

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        • (Score: 2) by Fluffeh on Monday July 08 2019, @04:08AM (2 children)

          by Fluffeh (954) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 08 2019, @04:08AM (#864325) Journal

          downloads them onto the Zune automagically and no wi-fi or cell service is required

          What carries the data out of interest?

          • (Score: 2) by ilPapa on Monday July 08 2019, @06:14AM

            by ilPapa (2366) on Monday July 08 2019, @06:14AM (#864363) Journal

            Oh, I dock it to charge it via USB and all my podcast subscriptions are updated.

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          • (Score: 2) by ilPapa on Monday July 08 2019, @06:17AM

            by ilPapa (2366) on Monday July 08 2019, @06:17AM (#864364) Journal

            Also, since you asked, the PC Zune client is dead simple to use and an elegant interface (believe it or not). It's one of the best bits of software MS ever made. It's getting really long in the tooth right now, but it works great and doesn't try to take over my computer the way iTunes does. It does exactly what I need and nothing more.

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  • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Saturday June 29 2019, @03:09AM (4 children)

    by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 29 2019, @03:09AM (#861215) Journal

    they considered farming it out to Barnes and Noble or any such thing.

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    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Saturday June 29 2019, @03:18AM (3 children)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday June 29 2019, @03:18AM (#861221)

      Considering the fact that they're issuing refunds, I doubt the number of people affected is even 10,000 - just not worth the effort. Besides B&N has one foot in the grave, too.

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      • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Saturday June 29 2019, @01:54PM

        by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 29 2019, @01:54PM (#861318) Journal

        Yeah, I just want B&N to live a little longer :-\

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by HiThere on Saturday June 29 2019, @04:27PM (1 child)

        by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 29 2019, @04:27PM (#861351) Journal

        Did you notice the bit about "refunds if you still have the same credit card"? That's not too likely to be common. I don't have a single credit card from seven years ago. Most were expireed by the bank, and the new one has different security encodings.

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        • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Saturday June 29 2019, @05:26PM

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday June 29 2019, @05:26PM (#861382)

          Oh, yeah, some bean counter here is totally expecting 90+% of these "refunds" to end up in the various states' unclaimed property offices - in an escrow account, paying interest to Microsoft for years to come, and most will end up never being collected.

          BTW, if you haven't checked your applicable unclaimed property offices' websites to see if you've got anything hanging out there, you should. My wife just claimed $30 from about 6 years ago, and she's found hundreds more there for friends and family.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @03:24AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @03:24AM (#861222)
    Never, ever buy anything with DRM attached.

    If it has DRM, simply do not buy it.

    • (Score: 1) by anubi on Saturday June 29 2019, @05:29AM

      by anubi (2828) on Saturday June 29 2019, @05:29AM (#861254) Journal

      Worse yet, build it into something else.

      When it goes away, everything else you had that depended on it is rendered useless.

      Had that happen to me. Once. I became super shy at adopting any subsequent single source stuff.

      I can still read and edit my CAD stuff that is now over 30 years old. ( Futurenet Dash2 running under DOS ). Everything still works just like it did 30 years ago. Many modern executive types seem to have no idea just how important the physical machines and documentation is to their business.

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by rigrig on Saturday June 29 2019, @11:48AM (1 child)

      by rigrig (5129) <soylentnews@tubul.net> on Saturday June 29 2019, @11:48AM (#861301) Homepage

      You cannot buy anything which is DRM-encumbered, only rent it for an unknown time.

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      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @04:04PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @04:04PM (#861343)

        Unless you're a scofflaw that breaks the crypto!

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by ChrisMaple on Saturday June 29 2019, @03:35AM (4 children)

    by ChrisMaple (6964) on Saturday June 29 2019, @03:35AM (#861227)

    This is why we have cameras. If a book is worth reading, it's worth photographing every page.

    • (Score: 5, Touché) by Kymation on Saturday June 29 2019, @04:15AM (1 child)

      by Kymation (1047) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 29 2019, @04:15AM (#861235)

      Then store the photos in the cloud!

      Oh wait....

      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday July 01 2019, @05:07PM

        by Freeman (732) on Monday July 01 2019, @05:07PM (#862068) Journal

        Store it in the cloud for the convenience, but also store it on an external HDD for backup.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @08:37AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @08:37AM (#861280)

      On my new phone some apps prevent screenshots being being taken under specific circumstances so now are we just heading into the day when taking a photo of a book is blocked just in case the text is copyright?

      I had email open in Firefox Klar, tried to take a screenshot, it failed. Extremely frustrating to be denied taking a screenshot. It's my device.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @09:19AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @09:19AM (#861281)

        Just read the point about DRM.
        About storing photos: Compress it. It is possible to store a few hundred monochrome pages in less than 2MB. It's easy today, even with artificial scarcity of storage being propagated as hell to pull more money from users.

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @04:26AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @04:26AM (#861239)

    The only time they will make something that doesn't suck is if they start making vacuum cleaners.

    • (Score: 2, Redundant) by Pslytely Psycho on Saturday June 29 2019, @11:57AM

      by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Saturday June 29 2019, @11:57AM (#861303)

      Well that doesn't make sense. Vacuum cleaners are suppose......err......oh....never mind.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @05:40AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @05:40AM (#861256)
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @09:27AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @09:27AM (#861284)

    All those books are on libgen without DRM.

  • (Score: 4, Touché) by Mer on Saturday June 29 2019, @09:57AM

    by Mer (8009) on Saturday June 29 2019, @09:57AM (#861291)

    Nice how both of their answers, while correct in the end, start with "You can continue to read..."

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  • (Score: 2) by fido_dogstoyevsky on Saturday June 29 2019, @09:58AM

    by fido_dogstoyevsky (131) <axehandleNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Saturday June 29 2019, @09:58AM (#861292)

    Cold comfort considering a virtual book burning won't keep you very warm.

    But a nonvirtual microsoft burning will...

    Seriously, is this result of digital restrictions a surprise to anybody? If it is, it serves them right for buying anything from a bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Gaaark on Saturday June 29 2019, @10:20AM (2 children)

    by Gaaark (41) on Saturday June 29 2019, @10:20AM (#861296) Journal

    "Don't buy DRM ANYTHING: PIRATE it instead! You'll be able to read it no matter what!"

    Thanks for the reminder, Microsoft!

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    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday July 01 2019, @05:19PM (1 child)

      by Freeman (732) on Monday July 01 2019, @05:19PM (#862077) Journal

      Instead of pirating, see these fine sites:
      http://www.gutenberg.org/ [gutenberg.org] Public Domain Electronic Books.
      https://librivox.org/ [librivox.org] Public Domain Audio Books.
      https://archive.org/ [archive.org] Internet Archive - If it's not here, it's probably not anywhere, or isn't legal to download.

      There are also, No DRM (DRM Free) publishers and I would highly recommend purchasing from them.

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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Gaaark on Monday July 01 2019, @10:23PM

        by Gaaark (41) on Monday July 01 2019, @10:23PM (#862184) Journal

        Yeah, I haven't bought an ebook except through humble-bundle, and Gutenberg has some good books.

        Humble-bundle FTW!
        Microsoft for the D'OH!

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  • (Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Saturday June 29 2019, @12:52PM (4 children)

    by Rupert Pupnick (7277) on Saturday June 29 2019, @12:52PM (#861310) Journal

    I know that with the success of YouTube and similar services, we are living in a world where literacy is not as important to the functioning of society as it used to be and all that, but...

    I must confess to not RTFEULA for my Kindle. In the extremely unlikely event that Amazon no longer chooses to stay in this business, am I screwed?

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @01:05PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @01:05PM (#861311)

      They've already screwed Kindle users by remotely deleting ebooks on a whim while in business, so of course you'll be screwed then.

      • (Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Saturday June 29 2019, @01:22PM

        by Rupert Pupnick (7277) on Saturday June 29 2019, @01:22PM (#861312) Journal

        You’re right, it already happened almost ten years ago. Think twice before buying a Kindle (got mine as a gift), buying a new e-book, or even turning the WiFi interface on...

        https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html [nytimes.com]

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by HiThere on Saturday June 29 2019, @04:33PM

        by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 29 2019, @04:33PM (#861353) Journal

        The time I remember it wasn't on a whim, it was a legal requirement. They either didn't have or lost the right to sell the copyright work....Orwell's 1984. But they revealed that they designed the system so that they COULD remove already purchased works. And substitute alternative versions.

        I'm sure that if they'd been planning they wouldn't have chosen that particular work to reveal that particular capability.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by stormwyrm on Saturday June 29 2019, @01:28PM

      by stormwyrm (717) on Saturday June 29 2019, @01:28PM (#861314) Journal
      Yes. They already screwed people in a similar way over ten years ago. And the book they deleted was, ironically enough, none other than George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four [theguardian.com]. While Amazon has promised that they will never do that again, their promise is the sort of weaselly promise [pcworld.com] you'd expect from a large corporation. You still don't own a book you buy from them via Kindle, the way you own a paper book that you buy from Amazon and have delivered to you.
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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by cellocgw on Saturday June 29 2019, @03:14PM (4 children)

    by cellocgw (4190) on Saturday June 29 2019, @03:14PM (#861333)

    Unless this no longer works, https://www.epubor.com/how-to-convert-lit-to-epub-free.html [epubor.com] and http://www.convertlit.com/download.php [convertlit.com] or https://www.softpedia.com/get/Office-tools/Other-Office-Tools/ConverLIT-GUI.shtml [softpedia.com]

    I haven't tried these, since I went nowhere near Microsoft's ebooks in the first place. Rather obviously, do this while your local authorization key still works.

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    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @04:49PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @04:49PM (#861362)

      DL 1nna za torretz with GB books innit

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @07:05PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @07:05PM (#861407)

      Problem is this is only a 'work around' not a solution to the true problem.

      ( and perhaps not even legal to do, in this particular case since they are pulling your 'right to read'. for those that care )

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @07:31PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @07:31PM (#861409)

      What about Calibre [calibre-ebook.com]?

      That should work too, no?

      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Monday July 01 2019, @10:42PM

        by Gaaark (41) on Monday July 01 2019, @10:42PM (#862189) Journal

        I guess it depends on what format MS books came in. I dunno and can't be bothered looking, lol.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @07:03PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @07:03PM (#861406)

    Just one more example of why.

    Anyone remember this? Its only been 10 years.. https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html [nytimes.com]

    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday July 01 2019, @05:23PM

      by Freeman (732) on Monday July 01 2019, @05:23PM (#862080) Journal

      Yeah, I don't own a Kindle, either. Kindle is the epitome of selling your soul, because it's cheaper right now.

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  • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Saturday June 29 2019, @10:20PM (1 child)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Saturday June 29 2019, @10:20PM (#861445)

    I would rather see them *not* give refunds to people, and let them be screwed. This should stand as a warning for anyone considering buying DRMed products.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 30 2019, @02:05AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 30 2019, @02:05AM (#861509)
      If they didn't give refunds, they'd get hit by lawsuits by the people affected the way Amazon was when they deleted Nineteen Eighty-Four from people's Kindles. Any corporation with a decent legal department would know that issuing refunds would be way cheaper than fighting it out with their former customers in court even if they do have an EULA that actually absolves them of the requirement to do so. That would have to be tested in court, and a class action lawsuit is an expensive business, win or lose.
  • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Sunday June 30 2019, @01:00AM (4 children)

    by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 30 2019, @01:00AM (#861490) Homepage Journal

    Didn't Microsoft think of providing their customers a tool for removal of their DRM? They could even have packaged it as a software update for their e-reader.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 30 2019, @02:07AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 30 2019, @02:07AM (#861510)
      That would probably make them run afoul of the publishers they licensed the books from. There's probably a contract in there that stipulates that MS must maintain the DRM to the end.
      • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Sunday June 30 2019, @07:41AM (1 child)

        If that's the case, shouldn't the ire be directed at the publishers rather than at MS?

        And why are we quoting Cory Doctorow here? It was Richard Stallman who wrote "The Right To Read" half a decade earlier.
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        • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Monday July 01 2019, @04:08PM

          by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 01 2019, @04:08PM (#862004) Homepage Journal

          They could, I suspect, allow the DRM on existing devices to keep working -- but no longer having to check in with headquarters.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by Joe Desertrat on Sunday June 30 2019, @09:58PM

      by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Sunday June 30 2019, @09:58PM (#861731)

      Didn't Microsoft think of providing their customers a tool for removal of their DRM?

      Ha ha ha ha ha! That was a good one!

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