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posted by chromas on Saturday June 29 2019, @12:00AM   Printer-friendly

SpaceX targets 2021 commercial Starship launch

The first commercial mission for SpaceX's Starship and Super Heavy launch system will likely take place in 2021, a company executive said June 26.

Jonathan Hofeller, SpaceX's vice president of commercial sales, said the company is in talks with prospective customers for the first commercial launch of that system roughly two years from now. "We are in discussions with three different customers as we speak right now to be that first mission," Hofeller said at the APSAT conference here. "Those are all telecom companies."

[...] Hofeller said the discounted pricing SpaceX gave to early customers of Falcon 9 missions with pre-flown first-stage boosters is now the company's normal pricing. SpaceX Founder Elon Musk said last year that previously flown booster missions were priced "around $50 million," down from $62 million. Musk said SpaceX's prices would continue to decline, too. Hofeller reiterated that prices would keep dropping through the introduction of Super Heavy and Starship. The fully reusable nature of the launch system enables those lower prices, he said.

Being fully reusable also opens up new mission possibilities, he said. "You could potentially recapture a satellite and bring it down if you wanted to," Hofeller said. "It's very similar to the [space] shuttle bay in that regard. So we have this tool, and we are challenging the industry: what would you do with it?"

Starship.


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  • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Saturday June 29 2019, @12:43AM

    by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 29 2019, @12:43AM (#861180) Journal

    You could potentially recapture a satellite and bring it down if you wanted to," Hofeller said. "It's very similar to the [space] shuttle bay in that regard. So we have this tool, and we are challenging the industry: what would you do with it?"

    Seems obvious. [youtube.com]

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @01:07AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @01:07AM (#861190)

    Capture a plutonium-powered rotocopter shortly after launch, then crash it into Mecca.

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @07:10AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @07:10AM (#861271)

    There just wasn't that much stuff that needed to be brought down from orbit. Launch costs were so high, and after Challenger the shuttle didn't really carry commercial satellites anyway, that bringing satellites back to Earth for service never really made sense.

    But if it starts to be a capability that can be depended on, satellite operators will start to use it. Bringing satellites down will probably be almost free at first, so repairing satellites will be a great choice compared to just launching new ones.

    Starship is designed to go to Mars, so hopefully the cargo version can at least reach geostationary orbit. It could bring back decommissioned satellites for disposal, even if no repair is intended, just to clear space in, well, space. Who will pay? No idea, but the cost should be minimal, assuming that the launch is taking a new satellite there anyway.

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by takyon on Saturday June 29 2019, @07:51AM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Saturday June 29 2019, @07:51AM (#861277) Journal

      The aim is supposedly for Starship launch to cost less than Falcon 9 (especially if no in-orbit refuel needed). With F9 now at around $50 million, many payloads could be more expensive. They may even be able to scale up in size to match the mass/volume capabilities of Starship.

      Starship will lift 100+ tons to LEO (probably more than 100) which is a lot of capability. So if it only carries one small satellite, it's possible that it may be able to lift a satellite, deploy it, change orbit, and take one back down in the same launch.

      Yes, it can reach geostationary orbit, and should be able to put more there than Falcon Heavy.

      Two obvious things for it to gently deorbit are the Hubble and U.S.-owned ISS modules. These could go into the Smithsonian. Or the Hubble could be studied (to learn about damage caused to it in space, its mirror aberration, etc.) and upgraded on the ground and relaunched.

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @01:53PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @01:53PM (#861317)

      Bringing satellites down will probably be almost free at first, so repairing satellites will be a great choice compared to just launching new ones.

      Only if the satellite to be fetched is in the same orbit as the one to be installed, else it's going to be quite expensive.
      And there's still the cost of relaunching the repaired satellite, which is no cheaper than launching a new one. It will have limited applications at best.

      GEO is about the only place it makes sense, and even there it will probably used more useful to dispose of trash satellites than to retrieve, repair, and relaunch.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @05:13PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29 2019, @05:13PM (#861374)

        The cost of launching would be the same, but you don't have to build a new satellite. Those can cost $500 million. There's a lot of savings to be had that way.

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