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posted by cmn32480 on Monday July 01 2019, @02:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the getting-a-charge-out-of-life dept.

An article from c|net has their list of 5 Phones with the Best Battery Life:

From 5G and folding displays to pop-up cameras and in-screen fingerprint readers, this year has been a dynamic time for phones. But whether or not these technological trends are here to stay, one phone feature always ranks at the top of the list for users: a long battery life.

Now that we've reached the middle of 2019, it's time to take a look at some of the best phones so far. After all, the last thing you want is for your phone to run out of juice when you need it most. Usually, a phone lasts a full workday with moderate use. But if you use it heavily, you'll need to recharge it more often. Batteries also lose steam over time, running down faster the longer you've owned the phone. The possibility of losing battery -- and therefore losing your communication hub -- is frightening and real.

If you feel your phone's battery seems to be stuck in the '90s and doesn't last as long as you'd like, you're not alone. So if a long-life battery tops your list of needs, check out these top-scorers -- they lasted impressively long during our lab tests for continuous video playback on Airplane mode.

Wait. In Airplane mode? So that means that there are no radio circuits active. No phone calls. No internet (LTE or Wi-Fi). That makes these results questionable for real-world use, but it may be somewhat indicative of comparative longevity. With that caveat, what were their results?

Apple iPhone XR:
19 hours and 53 minutes
Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus:
21 hours
[*] Samsung Galaxy S10:
18 hours
Huawei P30 Pro:
22 hours and 57 minutes
[*] Huawei P30:
21 hours and 31 minutes
Samsung Galaxy Note 9:
19 hours and 20 minutes
LG V50 ThinQ:
17 hours and 49 minutes

[*] Related model that was also tested.

I do not use FaceBook, Instagram, LinkedIn, or any other social media site (except SoylentNews, of course). I also use my phone as a local hotspot to get on the internet when at home -- but it is usually in my charger when doing that. Further, I activated all the battery-saving measures I could find. That said, I generally have about 50% charge left on my Galaxy S7 at day's end.

How does your phone usage and logevity stack up?


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by SomeGuy on Monday July 01 2019, @02:41PM (1 child)

    by SomeGuy (5632) on Monday July 01 2019, @02:41PM (#861945)

    How does your phone usage and logevity stack up?

    Well, lets see, my Unisonic Model 6434 doesn't even have batteries and I have been using it regularly since at least the early 1990s.

    Oh, was I supposed to throw everything away and replace it every year like some wasteful consumerard? I didn't get that memo. Must have been sent out on Twitter(R)(TM) or Facebook(R)(TM).

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday July 01 2019, @02:46PM

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday July 01 2019, @02:46PM (#861950)

      Motorola 815e (the thick version of the Razr) flip-feature phone FTW... when I retired mine it was because the battery wasn't holding a charge anymore and a replacement battery cost more than a new Nexus 5. It was a hell of a practical phone, ran all week on a single charge when it was new.

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by JoeMerchant on Monday July 01 2019, @02:43PM (4 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday July 01 2019, @02:43PM (#861948)

    I'm holding in my hand right now a Ulephone Armor 6e, IP68 waterproof, 5AH battery, Android 9, all the toys, and compatible with Mint Mobile's $15/month plan for voice and data.

    I don't know how many hours it would run in the article's test, but my guess is: more than any of the phones tested / presented, particularly if you let Android 9 manage the power as it does in its default settings.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Monday July 01 2019, @03:13PM (3 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday July 01 2019, @03:13PM (#861972) Journal

      *Ulefone [ulefone.com]

      Never heard of it. Engrish in product descriptions, ships from Hong Kong. Decent pricing, and they have one with a 6350mAh battery.

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      • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday July 01 2019, @03:46PM (2 children)

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday July 01 2019, @03:46PM (#861990)

        Never heard of it

        Neither had I... I bought my wife a Sharp cellphone from the same source, and even though it has Chinese language as the (easily switched) default, it's a damn nice phone, particularly for the price.

        I got the Ulephone as an Android app development platform, but it would make a hell of a daily driver, too. A little bulky and heavy, but it doesn't need a protector case, and: waterproof?!?!! who else does that? When the app is developed, it's getting installed on a boat, so... good match IMO.

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        • (Score: 2) by EEMac on Monday July 01 2019, @04:22PM (1 child)

          by EEMac (6423) on Monday July 01 2019, @04:22PM (#862018)

          WHOA. I just bought a used Samsung Galaxy S6 for $110 and thought I got a good deal. $200 for something brand new and vastly more sturdy is a really good deal.

          • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday July 01 2019, @04:55PM

            by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday July 01 2019, @04:55PM (#862051)

            Caveat: it is heavy. Not without reason, between the rugged case and big battery it's obvious why, but... you do notice the weight, particularly if you hand-hold it while playing a game or something.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 01 2019, @03:26PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 01 2019, @03:26PM (#861979)

    Cheap android option BLU (Bold Like Us) overlooked as usual. My relatively new Studio M6 LTE goes for DAYS between recharging with light use (a few calls , 1 hr web browsing )

  • (Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Monday July 01 2019, @03:28PM (1 child)

    by PiMuNu (3823) on Monday July 01 2019, @03:28PM (#861981)

    Android
    I turn off WiFi when not in range. I notice something, I think Play, turns on wifi randomly. Presumably so they can use my phone to wardrive (oh, and download updates). No way to disable the behaviour.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by canopic jug on Monday July 01 2019, @03:42PM (8 children)

    by canopic jug (3949) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 01 2019, @03:42PM (#861986) Journal

    Those units are all hours and minutes? Not a single one on the list exceeds even a single day, let along can run on standby for several weeks. WTF is wrong with both the phones and the "apps" they are afflicted with?

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    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday July 01 2019, @03:52PM (3 children)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday July 01 2019, @03:52PM (#861993)

      Too many features, too much processor for the job of making and receiving calls. They're not phones, they're pocket computers.

      My 2006 Moto815e "feature phone" would take pictures, play music, send and receive e-mail, use a bluetooth headset, and last for a week on a charge. The industry as a whole turned away from that kind of functionality - probably some problem with monetizing it in a more competitive, connected future.

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      • (Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Monday July 01 2019, @04:03PM (2 children)

        by Rupert Pupnick (7277) on Monday July 01 2019, @04:03PM (#861999) Journal

        Also displays are significant power hogs. Wonder how they normalized display intensity in the CNET test-- just auto-brightness? If you're not careful with this you could easily change the way those phones are ranked. There's probably more to do than just turn on Airplane Mode?

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by JoeMerchant on Monday July 01 2019, @04:52PM (1 child)

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday July 01 2019, @04:52PM (#862048)

          Anymore, your battery life is as dependent on how you use your phone as it is the phone itself - frugal use of a smartphone with a small battery might yield 3x the runtime of hoggish use of a similar phone with a much bigger battery.

          Unfortunately, the LiPo cell market has also trained me to completely distrust battery mAH figures quoted by Chinese manufacturers, otherwise that would make a useful comparison point.

          And, as you say, even screen brightness is a huge factor - my phone quotes 9 hours of video playing time, but what screen brightness is that at? And, it shouldn't be measured as 50% or 100%, but rather as a standard candella level on a white screen...

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          • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 01 2019, @10:41PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 01 2019, @10:41PM (#862188)

            Four tricks I've learned for buying batteries online:

            1. Check the high-resolution image, as the labels will sometimes give different numbers from the listings or be a completely different product.
            2. Compare the mAh rating to the Wh rating. Despite being relatively easy to convert between, a surprising number of listings screw them up.
            3. Check for a cutoff voltage. Most sketchy ones won't list it at all, put boosted values, absurdly low ones, or ones that cross the over-discharge level.
            4. Look for charge specifications, as they can reveal a bunch of information about the actual battery chemistry and capacity.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by AthanasiusKircher on Monday July 01 2019, @04:04PM (1 child)

      by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Monday July 01 2019, @04:04PM (#862002) Journal

      Those units are all hours and minutes? Not a single one on the list exceeds even a single day, let along can run on standby for several weeks. WTF is wrong with both the phones and the "apps" they are afflicted with?

      Read the summary: "they lasted impressively long during our lab tests for continuous video playback on Airplane mode."

      They weren't reviewing "phone" battery usage. They were reviewing portable video player battery usage.

      • (Score: 2) by canopic jug on Tuesday July 02 2019, @08:38AM

        by canopic jug (3949) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 02 2019, @08:38AM (#862319) Journal

        They weren't reviewing "phone" battery usage. They were reviewing portable video player battery usage.

        Acknowledged. However, these devices are still marketed as phones which, to me at least, implies the primary task of making and receiving voice calls. On the other hand, the incompatible sound compression going on both ends these days might be evidence to the contrary. Certainly for the youngest generations "phone" appears not to mean voice calls but Candy Crush, Angry Birds, or some other addictive game or some social control media addiction.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 01 2019, @11:48PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 01 2019, @11:48PM (#862212)

      Uh...it's ANDROID which was conceived by GOOGLE. If all you an understand is the two big bold words, that should hopefully be enough to figure out why your battery sucks sweaty ass.

      What a stupid question...

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 02 2019, @06:31AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 02 2019, @06:31AM (#862301)
      Nothing wrong with the phones. Just something wrong with your reading comprehension.
  • (Score: 2) by looorg on Monday July 01 2019, @03:44PM

    by looorg (578) on Monday July 01 2019, @03:44PM (#861988)

    I bought a Samsung GT-S5570 about seven years ago, it was an outgoing model then. It was dirt cheap. If I turn off the wifi, the bluetooth and the GPS since I have no need for those things it lasts about a week or so if I only use it for calls and messages. For work I got a Samsung Galaxy A3 (or is it 4 or 5 or whatever, I forget). Same there really, no need for the bluetooth, the GPS and the wifi it lasts about the same if I use it just to make calls, messages and such. I run a couple of apps on it to mostly to show train- and bus schedules.

    So I guess about a week during normal usage (for me). But then I don't really take or make all that many calls.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by AthanasiusKircher on Monday July 01 2019, @04:01PM (2 children)

    by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Monday July 01 2019, @04:01PM (#861998) Journal

    Wait. In Airplane mode? So that means that there are no radio circuits active. No phone calls. No internet (LTE or Wi-Fi). That makes these results questionable for real-world use, but it may be somewhat indicative of comparative longevity.

    Okay, I normally wouldn't post about this, as linguistic usage is a mess, and I normally just go with the flow. But the editorial comment makes me want to register a final objection about English word usage before I just retire this bit of pedantry, since these arguments are generally useless.

    A "phone" or telephone is a word coming from Greek roots including -phone, meaning "voice" or "sound." This article is NOT about phones or phone battery life: it is about so-called mobile "smartphones," which are almost never used as phones anymore.

    I have multiple people in my extended family who own phones. Not smartphones -- telephones. They don't use them for anything other than voice calls. Some of them own mobile phones without a monthly plan -- they just pay by the minute. Their phones are simplistic and cheap, but they work fine for voice calls. Their batteries last a fairly long time. Many people in my family also have land lines, with PHONES. Those phones (not mobile phones) are almost all cordless and also have batteries, which last a fairly long time.

    I mention this because an editor complaining about using airplane mode brings up the real tension here -- what exactly should the metric be for "phones" these days? I recall reading cell phone reviews online 15 years ago, and when it came to battery life, they would generally give stats for battery life during calls (how many minutes) vs. when inactive/sleep or whatever. That was it. These were reviews of PHONES.

    I have a smartphone and have had various ones for a decade now. I almost only use them as phones, and that means I use them increasingly rarely, since only people above the age of 60 or so tend to make voice calls anymore as a preferred method of communication. I would tend to only turn navigation on very occasionally when I was lost (as I don't see the need to be tracked continuously all the time by my phone). I would occasionally make use of it for checking email or looking something up on the internet when I wasn't near a wi-fi network and needed info immediately. But when I say "occasionally," I mean maybe briefly once per week or something. In general, by default, I just avoided the whole problem of apps doing weird crap by just having mobile data OFF by default all the time.

    Given that usage pattern, my phone battery generally lasts over a week, and that's been standard for years. If you're going to review battery usage for a PHONE, perhaps that's how we should think about it.

    (Admittedly, in the past year or so, I have been using my phone more for other tasks, partly due to the fact that my tablet I previously used for other non-voice-call things -- since it has a much superior form factor for most tasks -- is getting older and slower, and I haven't bothered replacing it.)

    Anyhow, here in TFA we have a benchmark for "phones" that actually turns off the phone part of the "phone" to determine battery life. The article begins by talking about cool "phone features" like pop-up cameras and in-screen fingerprint readers.

    I have nothing against smartphones. I didn't even object to the term when it first started being used for devices that were still primarily thought of as phones. I do dislike being with a group of people who seemingly can never disconnect from them, but in general, I recognize their utility. I prefer a tablet since the size seems more reasonable for almost every non-voice-call task, but to each his/her own.

    But TFA simply omits the "mobile" and "smart" descriptors and just claims to talk about "phones." TFA is not about phones though. Very few people use them as phones, and when they do, it's probably less than 1% of their usage time.

    It's likely too late for English usage, but can we just come up with another word for these pocket computers??? Rather than just dropping "smart-" from them, and calling them something they're not? Then again, phone terminology is one of the most laden with archaicisms in the English language. When have you last used a phone with a dial to "dial" a phone number? When have you last had a hook up on a wall somewhere where you would "hang up" your phone when done with a call? And now, absurdly, we're going to be stuck for eternity puzzling over why we have a "phone" (again, from Greek word for "voice" or "sound"), which in olden times was called a "telephone" ("tele-" meaning over a distance) to watch a silent video in airplane mode (hence playing local content)...

    • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Monday July 01 2019, @04:22PM

      by acid andy (1683) on Monday July 01 2019, @04:22PM (#862019) Homepage Journal

      It's likely too late for English usage, but can we just come up with another word for these pocket computers??? Rather than just dropping "smart-" from them, and calling them something they're not?

      We already have other words. Palmtop would be my first preference. Personal Digital Assistant sounds too pretentious to me. I don't find "smartphone" too objectionable (as a term, that is. I find the devices increasingly objectionable due to all the data mining) as I consider it important to know whether a device can connect to a mobile network or not (If it can, it can phone home when I don't want it to). I understand where you're coming from though.

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    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday July 01 2019, @04:23PM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday July 01 2019, @04:23PM (#862021) Journal

      One thing to recognize is that a smartphone with a bigger battery could perform worse than a smartphone with a smaller battery, if there is a problem with the OS. Samsung and others customize Android with their own software and proprietary features.

      The way to compare them is probably to take them out of the box, fully charge them, and run the same task(s) on all of them until the battery is fully depleted. And you may have to retest the same phones for years in order to do new comparisons.

      Testing in airplane mode removes pesky variables even if it is not a typical usage scenario. What if you try to play YouTube videos as your test? Two phones could receive the packets differently even if they are being used at the same time inches away from each other. If you use them at different times, YouTube could be serving content faster or slower. Etc. Playing a downloaded movie on loop should produce a result based primarily on the battery size, ARM SoC used, and display power consumption.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 01 2019, @04:12PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 01 2019, @04:12PM (#862007)

    Okay, they can display 19-23 hours of continuous video on a charge in airplane mode. Do any of them have enough storage for that much HD video?

    Asking for a friend of course.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Monday July 01 2019, @04:32PM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday July 01 2019, @04:32PM (#862026) Journal

      HD is 720p. Full HD is 1080p. 1 GB is about enough for one hour of x264 1080p (source [thepiratebay.org]), so 24 GB for 24 hours. Samsung Galaxy S10 has a minimum of 128 GB (over 100 GB usable), and S10 Plus can be configured with 1 TB.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 01 2019, @04:45PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 01 2019, @04:45PM (#862038)

    USA, it is. In every aspect.

  • (Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Monday July 01 2019, @07:02PM

    by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 01 2019, @07:02PM (#862125)

    My old (3.5 years) Turbo2 would go for 3 days of my usage (relatively light). Lately the battery is getting wonky, so I have a Moto G5 plus on it's way. I would have went for a G7, but the damned thing has a back made of glass! Screw that, I'm not buying a fragile phone. The G5 Plus is made of aluminum, so with a decent case I'll be good.

    Sub $200 too, so even if the performance is a little off I'll be happy.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by pecosdave on Monday July 01 2019, @07:04PM

    by pecosdave (8209) on Monday July 01 2019, @07:04PM (#862126)

    I'm carrying a Cat S41 [catphones.com]. I can go for days without charging the thing. Literally, charge it on Friday, don't plug it in until noon on Monday, that sort of thing. I don't necessarily just leave it on standby either, I've never run the thing down. I played Iron Marines for hours on it over the weekend, and it just kept playing. It actually comes with a Micro to Host A connector so you can charge someone else's phone with it. It's got a 5000mAh battery. Per the specs site is says it can standby up to 44 days (I doubt it unless you've got it in low-power mode and it has a good signal the whole time) and a talk time up to 38 hours on 3G.

    The camera sucks, the lack of a finger-print reader sucks for me personally since I use LastPass for Android as my browser, the one time I tried NFC it didn't work, I'm not sure if it works or not because I didn't try again with something else, and I have to reboot it occasionally since Bluetooth quits working - something coworkers have confirmed happens to them as well, otherwise, this thing is awesome. It even has an underwater photography mode.

    If you want a tank that's waterproof and has obnoxiously good battery (or you're just really clumsy and want to compensate) this is the phone for you. If you like phones that you buy protective cases for and leave a hole to show off the logo this probably isn't for you.

    Why it still has Micro USB instead of C is a mystery, but, whatever.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by inertnet on Monday July 01 2019, @07:04PM (3 children)

    by inertnet (4071) on Monday July 01 2019, @07:04PM (#862127) Journal

    For example the Cat S61 with 4500 mAh battery. Almost twice that of an iPhone.

    My Sony Xperia XZ2 Premium has a 3540 mAh battery, not bad but its 4k display will drain it a bit faster than a lower resolution screen would. It's still better than all of those in TFS.

    • (Score: 2) by arslan on Tuesday July 02 2019, @01:24AM (2 children)

      by arslan (3462) on Tuesday July 02 2019, @01:24AM (#862244)

      Looks like the article is looking at current crop of flagships - though some brands are missing?

      Lots of mid range phones does a lot better. My Nokia 7 plus that I bought 6 months ago can go up to 2.5 half days of normal use - some calls, lots of music, im, tapatalk & web browsing.

      • (Score: 2) by Magic Oddball on Tuesday July 02 2019, @03:35AM

        by Magic Oddball (3847) on Tuesday July 02 2019, @03:35AM (#862264) Journal

        Same thing with my Moto E4. It usually loses about 20% over a 12-hour period of average usage, which isn't bad for a two-year-old $130 'budget' phone.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 02 2019, @06:37AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 02 2019, @06:37AM (#862303)
        You really sure your Nokia 7 Plus does a lot better? Can it play videos continuously for longer than 22 hours and 57 minutes without charging?
  • (Score: 2) by archfeld on Monday July 01 2019, @08:19PM

    by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Monday July 01 2019, @08:19PM (#862140) Journal

    I'd suggest we call these personal digital devices (PDD) rather than phones as none of the tests included phone usage. My non smart phone an LG vn251zv6 running a Brewmp OS regularly lasts for 7 days of real world phone/text usage but does not run 'apps' other than a contact backup program on a daily basis. I use the blue tooth connection often in the car but turn that function off when not in use for both security and to conserve on battery life. So get of my lawn and leave me alone with my net connected laptop and old fashioned phone.

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  • (Score: 2) by Appalbarry on Monday July 01 2019, @08:24PM (1 child)

    by Appalbarry (66) on Monday July 01 2019, @08:24PM (#862146) Journal

    My P20 brags about great battery life, but its manic power management halts things like GPS tracking apps and podcast downloads. Randomly of course.

    I eventually nuked the power management for "Performance" mode and everything works fine, and still get a day on a charge.

    Interestingly, setting power stuff on a per - app basis did not work. Really nice hardware though.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 02 2019, @06:46AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 02 2019, @06:46AM (#862304)

      its manic power management halts things like GPS tracking apps

      Does that mean Huawei's evil Chinese spy firmware makes tracking harder? ;)

      My Xiaomi also has retarded power management stuff. It's all probably for "benchmarketing" reasons, and the phone would work better with it all disabled and still have enough battery life in practice. It has a 4000mAh battery and I've never hit zero battery while using it and I normally only charge it to around 70%. I guess the power/battery story will be very different if I played phone games regularly...

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by mobydisk on Monday July 01 2019, @08:36PM

    by mobydisk (5472) on Monday July 01 2019, @08:36PM (#862148)

    If you feel your phone's battery seems to be stuck in the '90s and doesn't last as long as you'd like...

    Flip phones from the 1990s lasted for weeks on a charge. Although they couldn't play video.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by linkdude64 on Monday July 01 2019, @09:57PM (3 children)

    by linkdude64 (5482) on Monday July 01 2019, @09:57PM (#862171)

    Heat kills batteries. With newer phones (such as the Note 9) the batteries are no longer easier serviceable by the end user.
    With that in mind, whenever possible, I avoid simultaneously charging and drawing from the battery, avoid charging to full capacity whenever possible (generally hover around 80%) and have the various radios and GPS option on my drop-down menu.

    Oh, and once I'm at home I activate airplane mode, then reactivate the WiFi radio by itself and use that for "WiFi calling" texts/calls. Massively decreases battery usage, which means less internal heat, which means longer life. As a test, with my previous phone whose batteries were swappable, I bought a new battery and "abused" it - charged it to 100% and left it on the charger while I was using it, didn't turn off radios, etc. It lasted around a year and a half before its capacity became so blatantly reduced that I was sufficiently annoyed to end the anecdotal experiment. My next battery? Still had more capacity after three years than that one did, and was working well until I decided I wanted a better camera and upgraded. Now that I don't have a removable battery, I'm glad I did all of the footwork.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 02 2019, @06:19AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 02 2019, @06:19AM (#862300)

      My phone keeps turning on the WiFi and pinging the tower *while turned off*
      Of course, the battery can't be removed

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 02 2019, @06:56AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 02 2019, @06:56AM (#862307)

      If you want to reduce heat you can charge it with a "slow" charge cable and charger (e.g. normal 500mA usb port).

      I charge my phone while it's stuck partly in front of my car's air conditioning vent. Keeps it cool (especially when it's being used for navigation) and the car charger doesn't charge as fast as the phone's stock charger.

      Have to be careful to not get it too cold or you could get condensation damage. You can use stuff like Tasker to play warning sounds if the phone gets too cold or too hot.

      The annoying thing is phone manufacturers don't give you an easy way to stop charging at set percentage that's lower than 100% even though stuff like that it's clearly possible ( https://www.gearprimer.com/technology/samsung-readies-note-7-update-limit-battery-charging-60/ [gearprimer.com] )

      • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Wednesday July 03 2019, @03:21AM

        by linkdude64 (5482) on Wednesday July 03 2019, @03:21AM (#862597)

        Thank you for the suggestion - in a way, I do something similar. On occasion I will forget to charge my phone sufficiently and will need quick-charging in the car before i reach my destination. I have a quick charge 3.0 charger in my car, but have quick charging turned off in my phone's software settings.

        What you say about the auto-charge limiting is very true, and frustrating. A laptop I've had for 5 years now (bought used, was 2 years old at that point) whose battery is in great shape has the "smart battery" option to limit it at 70%. There must be a patent on it, if not, then it's a deliberate planned failure mode, because even newer laptops don't have this option. commonly.,

  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday July 01 2019, @10:15PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 01 2019, @10:15PM (#862178) Journal

    Dammit. I took a wrong turn somewhere. Most likely right after the Pyramid of Giza. I'm starting over!

  • (Score: 2) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Tuesday July 02 2019, @01:58AM

    by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Tuesday July 02 2019, @01:58AM (#862251)

    I have a rooted Gemini PDA running AOSP Oreo and Greenify, I disabled all the useless Google apps and aggressively set restrictive permissions to any device or service any app doesn't need to access. Placing and receiving the odd phone call, 1 hour on the internet over 4G, getting emails, with bluetooth on and GPS off throughout the day, I get well over 24 hours before having to recharge.

    That's a phone that ain't no slouch with a biggish screen and a 4,200 mAh battery. So the lesson here is, if you pay attention to what's running on your phone, it's very possible to extend battery life further than the pathetic figures in TFA.

  • (Score: 2) by Luke on Tuesday July 02 2019, @05:48AM

    by Luke (175) on Tuesday July 02 2019, @05:48AM (#862293)

    I've said it before, I'm a grumpy old fart. If I want to view stuff on the interweb I'll use a computer (or _maybe_ even a tablet), but if I want to call someone via a telephone I'll use, well, a telephone!

    Yes, something that's designed to enter some numbers on a keypad, press the 'send' key (remember those?) and be connected to someone at the other end and [shock, horror] use your voice to communicate with them.

    To do this I used to use a Motorola BagPhone, or, after a few years, I used a Brick. I was so distraught when the AMPS system went down and I was unable to use my Brick that I hunted around and found a GSM Brick. After a while that died and so I've now got a modern Brick, made in China...

    This Brick looks just like the old, it's as heavy as the old, fits in my back pocket fine, and it works as a telephone just like the old one did too. The one major change is that it has a colour screen, and it lasts up to a month between charges. Yes, 30 days, including use.

    I suspect the battery in it comprises some 18650's, so there's stacks of capacity, but I've regularly been speaking to people for a length of time when they've had to hang up or scrabble around for a charger because their battery is going flat. Huh, what a bunch of pussies, my good ol' Brick just powers through without a break - literally for hours when I need.

    I'm very happy with the Brick but recently I thought I'd see what else was about so I'm trialling a modern Nokia 3310. This appears to run a week to 10 days between charges, not as good as the Brick, but it's not bad. Unfortunately it appears to have some interweb stuff on it, and I don't seem to be able to delete those icons. So I'm not sure whether I'll go any further or not.

    Either way I have a communication product that doesn't give me duration anxiety at any time during the day or night, or if/when I want to make a long call, so I'm happy :-)

  • (Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Tuesday July 02 2019, @02:29PM

    by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Tuesday July 02 2019, @02:29PM (#862398) Journal

    Since in most cases replacing the battery now requires case invasion (which I'll do, many of us do, but the general public pretty much doesn't). It's nice that you can get X hours out of a battery. But if that battery only lasts 390 days, I'll take getting X-3 hours from my battery life if it gets me 720 days. (Then again, I'm in a position at the moment where recharging my phone isn't problematic).

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    This sig for rent.
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