from the I'm-gonna-need-a-better-computer-monitor dept.
Xiaomi and Samsung Tease Upcoming Smartphone with 108MP Image Sensor
Xiaomi actually made two announcements today. The first is that it will be using Samsung's ISOCELL GW1 64MP image sensor in an upcoming Redmi phone. That, in and of itself, is a big deal. The GW1 uses "tetracell" technology (read: a quad-bayer array) to shoot 16MP images in low light, but thanks to a "remosaic" algorithm, it can still spit out full-resolution 64MP images in bright conditions. It's the highest resolution smartphone image sensor available... for now.
That's because this announcement was overshadowed by the news that Xiaomi and Samsung have teamed up on an even higher resolution "100MP" camera...
[...] The teaser says "100MP" but claims a total resolution of 12032 by 9024, which comes out to just over 108MP when you do the math. Following in the GW1's footsteps, we would guess that this, too, uses a quad-bayer array to produce 27MP images in normal shooting conditions, relying on the same remosaic algorithm to reconstruct full-res 108MP files when there's enough of light to go around.
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[...] Back in 2020, Samsung discussed how producing a 600 MP camera sensor was one of its aims, with an official editorial opining that this would go beyond the 500 MP resolution at which human eyes view the world. This recent information refines that 600 MP goal to 576 MP and even puts a target date of 2025 on it. However, don't expect a 576 MP main camera to make an appearance on a Galaxy S25 smartphone, as the giant sensors are more likely planned for use in future self-driving cars.
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Xiaomi Smartphone Will Use Samsung Camera Sensor to Take Up to 108 Megapixel Images
How Camera Companies can Survive the Smartphone
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @08:18AM (3 children)
How many pics can you take before internal storage fills up? Does it require cloud storage to work? Does it sell you such a subscription service?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @12:04PM (1 child)
I don't think the PRC call it cloud, do they?
Why, NSA hosted storage no longer good enough for yea?
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday August 08 2019, @09:53PM
NSA makes it hard to take out the information you've deposited with them.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 10 2019, @07:54AM
Xiaomi usually packs a lot of storage for the top end models (even for the mid/low end offerings). I'm typing this message from a xiaomi mi6 with 128gb of internal storage. Their newer models have larger storage options and I will not be surprised if they keep up the trend. also a 128 gb c10 microsd is $18 on aliexpress (just bought one from kingston).
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday August 08 2019, @08:19AM (4 children)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by Muad'Dave on Thursday August 08 2019, @11:19AM (3 children)
> a quad-bayer array
I think they meant quad-LAYER, like 4 chickens stacked up.
(Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Thursday August 08 2019, @11:24AM (2 children)
Nope.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer_filter [wikipedia.org]
https://www.gsmarena.com/quad_bayer_sensors_explained-news-37459.php [gsmarena.com]
https://www.diyphotography.net/sony-has-published-the-specs-for-a-full-frame-quad-bayer-and-five-other-sensors/ [diyphotography.net]
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(Score: 2) by Muad'Dave on Thursday August 08 2019, @12:48PM (1 child)
That's a joke, son! [youtube.com] Layers, chickens, get it?
Maybe I should've made an aspirin joke. Sigh.
(Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Thursday August 08 2019, @03:01PM
Besides, chickens are used for image stabilization [youtube.com] not color processing.
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
(Score: 1, Redundant) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Thursday August 08 2019, @08:40AM (1 child)
so nice of them to give us higher resolution cameras for them to have us film ourselves for them with.
There will come a day much sooner than most expect where spending any resources whatsoever on higher resolution phone cameras will be revealed as such an obvious waste of resources that some people will literally die from something they are taking a super high resolution photo of, but which was otherwise totally predictable and avoidable.
At the end of the day we(well, not me because I have already realized this obviously, but humanity) will realize that you can't eat phones and phones will not save you from a tidal wave, among other things.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Freeman on Thursday August 08 2019, @04:07PM
The future is now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_selfie-related_injuries_and_deaths [wikipedia.org]
People do dumb things, because reasons. Now, they can document it.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 08 2019, @09:52AM (1 child)
I just want a fucking phone. I've got stickers on both sides of this battery whoring handleless hand bag of a phone, shit patched, shit disabled, Im so over this hipster crap. I. just. want. a. phone.
(Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Thursday August 08 2019, @03:03PM
A fucking phone is a dildo with LTE.
Helps Verizon fuck people even harder.
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
(Score: 2) by inertnet on Thursday August 08 2019, @10:18AM (1 child)
And all that fine detail will immediately be undone with lossy compression.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by nitehawk214 on Thursday August 08 2019, @03:06PM
Or nonexistent image stabilization.
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
(Score: 4, Funny) by maxwell demon on Thursday August 08 2019, @01:25PM (1 child)
So what happens when you try to take the 109th megapixel image? :-)
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday August 08 2019, @01:38PM
The 2 TB SD card melts.
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(Score: 4, Funny) by fyngyrz on Thursday August 08 2019, @02:29PM
Tiny, tiny pixels,
grimy, grimy noise.
Looking at those fuzzies
will be your pride and joy.
Gathering the photons
through the tiny lens.
Electrons? Photons?
The questions never end.
Never mind, just sum 'em up
as long as users buy...
108 megapels, more
marketing and lies.
"Oh no!" They cry,
"we'll compute our way to clarity!
While gullible consumers
give kindly to our charity."
--
My dog was licking its... well, you know. Anyway,
my friend said "I wish I could do that." Because
he is my freind, I told him, "You'd better
pet him first. He's kinda aggressive."
(Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Thursday August 08 2019, @04:25PM (1 child)
Isn’t there a limit beyond which sensor improvements can’t overcome optical limitations in digital photography? Wouldn’t you expect to see a sensor like this in a full featured SLR? I can’t find any top end SLRs that feature even 64 Mp.
(Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Thursday August 08 2019, @05:01PM
It looks like optical and AI trickery (such as this remosaic algorithm) can help bust past the limits.
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