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posted by martyb on Wednesday August 21 2019, @03:39AM   Printer-friendly
from the If-you-miss-it,-you-will-be-a-Neo-not-see dept.

Warner Brothers has just announced plans to make a fourth installment in the iconic world of The Matrix.

Lana Wachowski—the co-creator of the record-breaking and genre-defining world of "The Matrix"—is set to write, direct and produce an all-new film, returning audiences to the reality-bending universe. Keanu Reeves and Carrie-Anne Moss will star in the film, reprising their roles as Neo and Trinity, respectively. Warner Bros. Pictures and Village Roadshow Pictures will produce and globally distribute the film. The announcement was made today by Toby Emmerich, Chairman, Warner Bros. Pictures Group.

There are almost no details yet on the film which will follow nearly twenty years after the first three films "The Matrix", "The Matrix Reloaded" and "The Matrix Revolutions" beyond the fact that filming is set to begin in early 2020.


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  • (Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @03:45AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @03:45AM (#882944)

    It can't be the fourth because there never was a second or third Matrix movie.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Alfred on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:05PM (1 child)

      by Alfred (4006) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:05PM (#883128) Journal
      You forgot something

      https://xkcd.com/566/ [xkcd.com]
    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:59PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:59PM (#883221) Journal

      I think there was a second movie. But not a third.

      To see the second movie, you had to buy two movie tickets and endure a six month intermission during the movie.

      If you eliminated 90% of the fight scenes, the plot would be unaffected, the story more enjoyable, and it would fit into a normal movie running time.

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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @03:48AM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @03:48AM (#882946)

    Fuck you for Godwin in the dept line.

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:11AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:11AM (#882954)

      There is no spoon.

      • (Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:23AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:23AM (#882959)

        Go bend yourself.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:40AM (10 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:40AM (#882966)

      Please tell me you are joking and not upset by the department line.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:53AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:53AM (#882973)

        Please give this one the blue pill.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:11PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:11PM (#883133)

          You mean the purple pill.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:20PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:20PM (#883139)

            This is the LBT[a-z] age.
            Stripy pink rainbow swirl pill.

            • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @03:22PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @03:22PM (#883170)

              Awww angry nerdzis

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @05:21AM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @05:21AM (#882976)

        We could have had a nice Aristarchus submission, if there were any, and he is almost never ironical in the dept. lines. Almost never.

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @05:30AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @05:30AM (#882979)

          We could also kill ourselves to exit the Matrix. Both options are equally valid.

          • (Score: 2) by bradley13 on Wednesday August 21 2019, @06:20AM

            by bradley13 (3053) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @06:20AM (#882987) Homepage Journal

            Ah, but are you really dead?

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @06:25AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @06:25AM (#882988)

            Wrong. This is the exit scenario of "Vanilla Sky", which is not a bad movie other than being a remake of a Spanish movie and starring Tom Cruze. There, in order to exit the virtual reality of your mind, you had to jump off a 40 storey building. I have always appreciated this as a UI design feature. "To end program, please jump to your death." Followed by "Are you sure you want to terminate the program?". And then, in my worst nightmares, "Abort, Retry, Fail?" ARRRRGGGGJHHHHHHH! Damn you, Morpheus!

            • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:23PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:23PM (#883140)

              I tried to Follow The White Rabbit but can't anymore.
              Damned stalking laws :(

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @01:12PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @01:12PM (#883096)

          Aristarchus subs could be a real wild ride [huffingtonpost.co.uk]

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:40PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:40PM (#883214) Journal

      Technically it is only a Godwin when someone compares someone to or accuses them of being a nazi.

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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by aristarchus on Wednesday August 21 2019, @06:19AM (17 children)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @06:19AM (#882986) Journal

    There is no try. After Neo was rescued from what he thought was reality, and could "move like them", it was obvious that the matrix was a virtual world controlled by the machines, and that Neo had "woke". So far, so good. But then, outside of the Matrix, in, what was it, the second one? he stopped the squiddies with his mind. OMG! The Matrix is virtual reality one, the resistance is virtual reality two, else how could Neo use his "bending of the rules" unless it was a reality written in MS Basic? Oh, excuse me, in python. So the "reality" you wake up to is just another level of the virtual reality that is meant to control and harness human beings into being Trump voters.

    Of course, the creators dropped that whole line after the second (alleged) movie, so it does not exist. There is no matrix, it does not exist as a splinter in your mind, a slim piece of wood slipping between the synapses of the brain of a Buzzard, producing doubt, and an urge to go fishing. Ah, yes, I used to go fishing there. But now, . . .

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by zocalo on Wednesday August 21 2019, @06:39AM (5 children)

      by zocalo (302) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @06:39AM (#882994)
      I suspect that's how they're going to bring Neo and Trinity back since they both clearly died at the end of the third movie. "Ah, but they only 'died' in the SECOND, outer, level of the Matrix - the one they had 'woken up' into and was actual reality, the fools! In the ACTUAL reality* they survived because reasons!" Then again, a kind of Inception/Matrix crossover might work... "How can you fight us, Mr. Anderson, when you have no idea whether you're still in the Matrix or not?"

      * Or not, depending on whether they need to retcon in yet another layer of virtuality for a subsequent sequel.
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:14PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:14PM (#883135)

        Third?
        Matrix.
        Fanimatrix
        ???

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Wednesday August 21 2019, @05:01PM

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 21 2019, @05:01PM (#883223) Journal

          The Matrix will have more fight scenes making the action Tensor and Tensor.

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          People today are educated enough to repeat what they are taught but not to question what they are taught.
      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday August 22 2019, @03:46AM (2 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 22 2019, @03:46AM (#883454) Journal

        I suspect that's how they're going to bring Neo and Trinity back since they both clearly died at the end of the third movie.

        Um no, they didn't clearly die. Keep in mind the giant AI McGuffin on whose doorstep they happened to lose consciousness. I bet it can do things for the holes in chests, brain-burn, blindness, and other minor technical issues they were experiencing.

        • (Score: 2) by zocalo on Thursday August 22 2019, @07:18AM (1 child)

          by zocalo (302) on Thursday August 22 2019, @07:18AM (#883502)
          I suppose if we're accepting that a human can have Doctor Strange style skills in the actual real world without an Infinity Stone, then sure, why not allow for an AI to have its own superhero style powers in the same real world? "Superhero movie franchise" wasn't really what I'd categorise The Matrix series as, despite the action sequences, but it's the Wachowski's property and no matter how good or bad the new movie turns out to be, I am curious to see how - and in what style - they continue the story.

          (And no, I don't think they'll go for a reboot/alternative timeline. I'm definitely expecting a continuation of the arc with an allowance for older actors and whatever makeup/CGI can achieve).
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          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday August 22 2019, @12:10PM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 22 2019, @12:10PM (#883572) Journal

            why not allow for an AI to have its own superhero style powers in the same real world

            Sorry, you're not even close. The AI in question probably could develop the necessary surgery skills from scratch on the spot in less time than it takes you to read this sentence. And if it couldn't, it was created in real time by something that could and transfer that knowledge over in less time than it takes for you to read this sentence. And of course, there already was a sea of near sentient equipment all over the place that could double as impromptu surgery tools. The question isn't whether they'd save these people, but rather where they'd store them (most likely in cryo) until they needed them again. Probably create some sort of neutral territory, much like the Matrix, where the two could be safely kept for centuries or millennia until someone oops again. Neo could be thawed out to fix things, while Trinity would serve as leverage.

            Way back when, this AI society barely had the resources to completely defeat humanity in a world-spanning war. It's evolved a bit since then.

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by RamiK on Wednesday August 21 2019, @09:21AM (7 children)

      by RamiK (1813) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @09:21AM (#883036)

      it was obvious that the matrix was a virtual world controlled by the machines

      No. The Matrix films are heavily inspired by the Ghost in the Shell manga that expressed its magical thinking through Nanorobotics. It was canonical that humanity used Nanites to block the sun to starve the machines. From there it's trivial to assume the bots were designed to allocate some power for humans to wirelessly power their IoT crap and Neo has a mutation letting him sense and manipulate those fields via the bots in the usual magic bullshit story line. It explains how humans can be used as viable batteries: They don't supply the power. but only conduct it from the bots which draw it from the sun. It also explains how Neo can manipulate the environment in the matrix while only being able to destroy machines outside of it: In the matrix he's using his EM magic nonsense to overwrite the code while outside he's using the bots to zap the machines.

      It's a consistent world building in line with the period's trends. In fact, Lucas was planning on following the same nano crap trope with the midi-chlorians and Whills microorganisms for manipulation the Force that very same year (1999): https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/george-lucas-star-wars-episode-7-8-9-microorganisms-disney-whills-midchlorians-a8398606.html [independent.co.uk]

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      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by aristarchus on Wednesday August 21 2019, @09:48AM (4 children)

        by aristarchus (2645) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @09:48AM (#883039) Journal

        Oh, shit, no! Not that you are incorrect, but the realization that this is the refuge of time-travel for failed science fiction! Oh My Jesus on a Neo Cracker! And he comes back from that? After three days, no doubt.

        This is why I am a sci-fi buddhist. Causation, karma, the inexorable law of being, such as it is.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @10:11AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @10:11AM (#883043)

          I wish the robots would have used the humans to augment "themselves", make themselves living, so to speak...
          It would have made more sense...
          Reverse Cybernetics... Biebernetics... hmm... i feel a disturbance in the force, but never mind...

          -zug

        • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Wednesday August 21 2019, @05:35PM (2 children)

          by RamiK (1813) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @05:35PM (#883238)

          Well, the matrix humans are conceived via artificial insemination in synthetic wombs while the self-replicating Agent Smith has a mother... Can't get much more original sin then that.

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          • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday August 21 2019, @07:43PM (1 child)

            by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @07:43PM (#883285)

            while the self-replicating Agent Smith has a mother

            Whaaaat...I even looked this up on the Matrix wiki (apparently there is one), and the string "mother" appears nowhere in the entire page.

            https://movies.stackexchange.com/questions/41128/why-does-agent-smith-call-the-oracle-mom [stackexchange.com]

            It sounds like characters are calling the Oracle "mother" in a metaphorical way. Like about 83% of the lines uttered in the entire transcript of the movie(s).

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            "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
            • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Thursday August 22 2019, @08:04AM

              by RamiK (1813) on Thursday August 22 2019, @08:04AM (#883510)

              It sounds like characters are calling the Oracle "mother" in a metaphorical way.

              The whole discussion is about allegorizing the story à la Pilgrim's Progress to Wizard of Oz to the Bible so of course it's metaphorical. Besides, one of the films specifically introduced the machine "children" plot element into the story so it's too forced: https://matrix.fandom.com/wiki/Sati [fandom.com]

              Admittedly though, it's been a few years since I've seen a rerun of the films and I honestly only liked the computer game for the excellent fight mechanics and the animation so anything I say on the subject should be taken with a sizeable grain of salt.

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      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:42PM (1 child)

        by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:42PM (#883146)

        Did the people who made the movie actually state this somewhere, or is this just a fan theory that explains it better than they did? Because I remember the "scorched the sky" line or whatever it was being a throwaway, and they definitely never explained Neo's "I'm Jesus inside the Matrix...and also outside LOL" in the movies themselves. Which seemed like half the point since the plot was so metaphorical and whatnot

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        "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
        • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Wednesday August 21 2019, @05:17PM

          by RamiK (1813) on Wednesday August 21 2019, @05:17PM (#883233)

          Did the people who made the movie actually state this somewhere...

          It's obviously a theory and I wouldn't call myself a fan but the nanites being used to block out the sun thing was explicitly mentioned in the Animatrix's The Second Renaissance Part II [wikipedia.org] which remains canon unless they'll retcon it away.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @03:59PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @03:59PM (#883194)

      So the "reality" you wake up to is just another level of the virtual reality that is meant to control and harness human beings into being Trump voters.

      Terminate this one poste-haste. - Architect

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:55PM (1 child)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:55PM (#883218) Journal

      So the "reality" you wake up to is just another level of the virtual reality

      You don't need VRs within VRs. At least not implementations of VRs within VRs.

      Everyone is in the VR. When you die and wake up, or simply wake up, or take the wrong pill, the single VR simply changes. I suppose this is best described as a VR within a VR.

      unless it was a reality written in MS Basic? Oh, excuse me, in python.

      In 2030, if you want to blink an LED, it will take terabytes of code. The Blink sketch, on an Arduino emulator, written in interpreted python on Linux. That Linux is actually running on a PC emulated in JavaScript in a browser (yes really! [bellard.org]). The browser is running on FreeDOS on the raw microcontroller. It will be the only option on the market for blinking an LED. But hey, it will be in a SOT-23 package [wikipedia.org], draw only nanoamps, and cost five cents. So you won't really care what goes on inside the package.

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      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday August 22 2019, @03:50AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 22 2019, @03:50AM (#883456) Journal

        You don't need VRs within VRs.

        Even if that were true, you might not know you were in a VR and hence, didn't need that subsequent VR.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by VLM on Wednesday August 21 2019, @01:36PM (2 children)

    by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 21 2019, @01:36PM (#883109)

    Of course there never was a 2nd or 3rd movie, but if some abomination did historically exist... and hollywood remakes and reinterpretations are always unimaginably worse than the original... this could be truly awful.

    I'm just saying, imagine the 2nd movie being remade into something 100 times worse... ugh...

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:18PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:18PM (#883138)

      Yeah, hate to break it to you, but they did a second AND third straight-to-DVD sequels just to cash in. Bastards.
      Maybe it is time to end this with a decent sequel.

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:16PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:16PM (#883203)

        In the fourth sequel they wake up in Toledo.

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by VLM on Wednesday August 21 2019, @01:41PM (2 children)

    by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 21 2019, @01:41PM (#883110)

    returning audiences to the reality-bending universe.

    I think we can assume that's not happening for political reasons, the only question is how pozzed leftward the movie will be.

    Remember the hot blond woman in the red dress in the original movie? We can't have that in the current year. Gonna have to be a "fat-acceptance" dude in a dress. Neo and Trinity were a same race hetero couple, this is impossible in the current year they're going to have to be interracial same sex for sure, expect an Asian dude and an African dude, perhaps, with lots of on camera sex scenes.

    Its gonna be pretty bad.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @06:16PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @06:16PM (#883260)

      or maybe the gorilla from ghost busters!

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday August 22 2019, @12:30AM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday August 22 2019, @12:30AM (#883374) Journal

      I envy you for being so completely comfortable and settled in your life that the worst you have to deal with is imaginary oppression. What a snowflake...

      --
      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
  • (Score: 2) by rigrig on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:32PM (1 child)

    by rigrig (5129) Subscriber Badge <soylentnews@tubul.net> on Wednesday August 21 2019, @02:32PM (#883142) Homepage

    Too bad they never made any sequels.

    (Also: Holy fuck, twenty years ago?)

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:05PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @04:05PM (#883197)

      Yeah, I remember taking my little bro to the movie, he was like 7, now he is pretty grown up. If only I aged like mortals.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @07:22PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 21 2019, @07:22PM (#883279)

    They used real hacking to login. nmap to find what the matrix was running and a sploit for that version.

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