from the do-you-still-doubt-what-will-happen? dept.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/10/18/melz-o18.html
As it was, footage aired by the Russian-funded RT outlet showed a grand total of four people in the audience, surrounded by rows of empty chairs. To date, the RT article, and an accompanying video, appears to be the only report on the briefing by any media outlet in the world.
[...] The press boycott is all the more striking given that even corporate publications have acknowledged that if Assange is extradited from Britain to the US, it will establish a precedent for journalists anywhere in the world to be hauled before US courts for the "crime" of publishing true and newsworthy information that the American government sought to conceal.
The New York Times and the Washington Post, moreover, have noted that the 17 Espionage Act charges that have been levelled against Assange by the Trump administration pose a direct threat to the US Constitution's press freedom protections, and could be used against other publications in the future—including their own.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by aristarchus on Saturday October 19 2019, @09:41AM (32 children)
Not torture, but enhanced, extended, intensified, and very painful interrogation! That's all it is! Really, torture is Illegal under the International Convention Banning Torture, and [ohchr.org]U.S. Code § 2340A. Torture [cornell.edu], so the United States, who helped establish the UN and the International Rule of Law, would never violate the same, and would be interested if someone like Assange was having his human rights violated by the Bloody Gone-Rouge Brits. Especially by being extradited to some country that does not abide by International Law.
Republicans will pay for the lawlessness they have wrought. From Nixon's "not illegal if the president does it" to the idiot Bush's "Unitary Executive" and Cheney's "dark side", and now Trump's total ignorance of law, diplomacy, business, finance and math. There will never again be a Republican president of the United States, and within a few years, no more Republican members of Congress. We will have gotten over it. Impeach the bastard, now. No, not you TMB!
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @09:48AM (15 children)
"There will never again be a Republican president of the United States, and within a few years, no more Republican members of Congress."
Wooow we got a real Nostradamus over here.
(Score: 2, Informative) by aristarchus on Saturday October 19 2019, @10:10AM (13 children)
"You don't have to be a Weatherman to tell which way the wind blows."
No prophecy, just facts.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:57PM (12 children)
Aristarchus, they said that after George Bush Sr. They said it after George W. Bush. They're saying it now. It's called wishful thinking.
It's why many of us pleaded with our fellow citizens to not allow police state surveillance, because eventually somebody you really don't like will be at the control levers for it. It's why many of us pleaded with our fellow citizens to stop the TSA, because they would soon be not just at airports but on highways and in subway stations, asking citizens for their papers the same way they did in the old parodies of the KGB and SS; and in fact the TSA is in those places. It's why we pleaded with our fellow citizens to not allow the Wall Street bailout, because they would only use it to consolidate their power and make everything exponentially worse.
In other words, it's all fun and games until Bad Orange Man becomes the guy holding all those cards we told you not to put in the hands of the person in the Presidential seat. Enjoy the shit sandwich you, sleepwalking, made for us all to eat, ye drones.
The government. Is. Not. Your. Friend.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Saturday October 19 2019, @02:18PM (7 children)
The Wall Street bailout was necessary, and should have been done faster to reduce the damage.
That said, they should have prosecuted the cheats that made it necessary, and (re)instituted measures that could prevent it from being necessary again.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 19 2019, @03:48PM (3 children)
I disagree. Chase Manhattan and at least a dozen other banks should have been bankrupted, and put out of business, their assets sold off at a milledge, not for pennies on the dollar.
"Too big to fail" is complete and utter bullshit.
If a bailout was going to happen, then government should have bailed out the little folk, not the big folk.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Sunday October 20 2019, @01:47AM (2 children)
When banks go bankrupt, it's the depositors who suffer, such as pensioners whose pension plans are invested there, such as small businesses who use the banks for regular business expenses. There's a sudden, sharp drop in the money supply that affects almost everywhere. Without the bailout, the 2008 recession would have been *much* more severe. Or should I then be calling it a depression? Remember the dirty thirties? No, I guess not, unless you're aristarchus.
But I have no sympathy for the moguls and their captive regulators who made it possible for the financial system to get into this fragile state.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday October 20 2019, @01:56AM (1 child)
That's why my last sentence. Government should have bailed out those little folk. All the moguls should be sitting in a jail cell, and they should be destitute when their sentences are finished. Just swap the positions of the predators and the prey. Take the millions and billions that the predators have accumulated, and distribute that money among the prey that they took advantage of.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by hendrikboom on Sunday October 20 2019, @07:13PM
Agree. And the easiest way to do that is to make sure the banks they rely on keep running, and making sure that
so they can't queer the results by giving themselves huge bonuses out of the bailout money.
Too bad the government left out the second part.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @06:05PM (1 child)
omg, stfu, lol! the bailout was necessary? fuck them! let them fail. let the market go to shit. let the people run out of food and start waking up to the fact that they are fucking slaves and start killing the motherfuckers robbing the world blind. are you an actual street hooker?
(Score: 2) by etherscythe on Monday October 21 2019, @05:22PM
Hmm. Isn't that exactly the point of the FDIC?
"Fake News: anything reported outside of my own personally chosen echo chamber"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @04:06AM
The only banks that got bailed out were the big five, and they only lost money on paper. It was only the smaller banks that got taken in by the scam* and lost money, and they all got bought out.
*Mortgage a $50k home for $100k to some sucker who can't actually afford it. Sell that mortgage for $110k to a smaller bank using falsified paperwork. Do this 100k times. Wait for the other bank to foreclose. Buy the property for $10k at the fire sale. Sell it to your holding company for $1. Claim it as a loss.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by fadrian on Saturday October 19 2019, @02:25PM
The government. Is. Not. Your. Friend.
The government is no more malevolent than you let it be. The government is the only tool you have to allow you to have and retain power, so control and use it wisely. Discouragement and cynicism are the enemy.
That is all.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by HiThere on Saturday October 19 2019, @04:14PM (2 children)
Your mistake is in thinking that Trump is the worst possible president. He's just a narcissistic individual with poor emotional control who has never had to worry about other people's feelings, he's not actually planning to be evil. At least I don't think so.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 3, Funny) by captain normal on Saturday October 19 2019, @04:29PM
Drop that Hanlon's razor you'r holding there, pal...that's a dangerous weapon. :-))
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts"- --Daniel Patrick Moynihan--
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @06:36PM
"he's not actually planning to be evil"
evil, stupid, don't matter what you call it when the results are the same.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:37PM
Nostradamus, or nosy anus?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @10:34AM (6 children)
Isn't this just an extension of the Obama administration's policy towards Assange?
Didn't the Obama administration have more prosecutions against leaks and whistle blowers than all the previous administrations combined?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:48PM (5 children)
Yes, he did. He was ruthless. Not at all the warm, fuzzy picture Democrats like to imagine. He also assassinated American citizens by drone, and was perfectly fine with rubber stamping the most breathlessly invasive police state surveillance system in history. Erich Honecker was a sweetheart compared to who Obama really was (vs his PR-crafted image).
But that won't stop the spittle flecked dupes from screaming and gnashing their teeth.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:39PM (1 child)
I rather like the gnashing of teeth, actually. The sound just wafts up from the dungeons, and helps me to sleep peacefully at night. It's as soothing as rain falling on the roof, IMO. Let those Dems gnash all they want!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @05:06PM
Who is gnashing teeth?
Every time you open your mouth you show how morally bankrupt you are, happy to wstch the qorld burn as long as it gives your "enemies" pain. You're a traitorous loser.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @02:56PM (2 children)
I think Obama came into the job, young man that he was, and the deep state in the form of the countless security services laid down the law.
He basically gave up, but he acted a more capable figurehead than Baby Bush could.
Look at that picture purporting to be from the Bin Laden assassination: Obama is off to the side acting like a teenager playing a video game, while all the adults at the table are making things happen.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @06:08PM
his mom's dad was CIA. he's not some naive innocent, FFS. he is a deep state puppet. watch "dreams of my real father".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @04:10AM
Obama was pro-surveillance when he was a senator. He was no spring chicken and he was already on board before he ever ran for President.
(Score: 3, Touché) by janrinok on Saturday October 19 2019, @10:59AM (3 children)
We don't all wear rouge, or any other coloured makeup for that matter.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Phoenix666 on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:45PM (2 children)
Then why do they call you "redcoats," smart guy?
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @06:40PM (1 child)
For their defense, they also like to dress in green, that's why they are called limeys.
(Score: 3, Informative) by hendrikboom on Sunday October 20 2019, @01:48AM
Actually, because they eat limes to ward off scurvy.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by loonycyborg on Saturday October 19 2019, @11:05AM (1 child)
Assange should consider himself lucky that he's not an Arab, so he's at least less likely to be raped.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:45PM
or droned.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:24PM
Yes! And next year, impeach the DIO too, so there will never be another republicrat or demobican in office! In fact, let's do away with elections altogether and just let the CEO of the company with the most revenue growth run the country! No more two-faced pretenses, just business all the way down!
(Score: 4, Touché) by Phoenix666 on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:44PM (1 child)
Billionaires often have total ignorance of law, diplomacy, business, finance, and math. Random people on the Internet, however, know all about those.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @12:36AM
Yeah, you're right about the former, even if you weren't trying to be. The billionaires don't need to know anything, since they can hire and bribe their way out of anything and everything. Trump is a perfect example of that.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by SpockLogic on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:30PM (6 children)
Assange is an asshole but being an asshole is not illegal (See Trump et al.) Assange made the mistake of upsetting Uncle Sam by releasing video evidence of the US military committing war crimes. https://collateralmurder.wikileaks.org/ [wikileaks.org] Uncle Sam has been determined to get him by any means possible ever since. He's screwed.
Overreacting is one thing, sticking your head up your ass hoping the problem goes away is another - edIII
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:09PM
I learned at work that when your manager is an asshole, there is no law preventing that--provided that the management is an asshole to everyone equally. Otherwise, one can claim discrimination of some kind. If you work for leadership of any kind that is an asshole, they either have to truly be commited to being one, or work to keep up the facade and perhaps eventually become one even if they only intended to do so for short-term gain (such as jobplace morale and motivational techniques--it seems that many new managers get frustrated and break out the whip before they assign safe words.)
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:14PM (2 children)
"Assange is an asshole" narrative is fueled by stuff like recanted allegations, confidants turned traitors, and Ecuador claiming he wouldn't clean the litterbox. They tried to cut him off from his money early on, now they smear him in every way possible.
Let other people fret about Assange being an asshole. If you support him, just support him.
(Score: 4, Funny) by Nuke on Saturday October 19 2019, @07:35PM
I heard that he would not use the litter box.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @09:44PM
The government in Ecuador is not exactly popular over there. They also have this fellow hacker of ours Ola Bini in Ecuador who is charged with obviously fake hacking charges and whatever they come up with along the way. Ecuador needs to clean their own litterbox.
I get it. I'd be pretty annoyed having some dude living in my house with his smelly cats, but then grant him fucking asylum and a citizenship and boot him off to Ecuador instead of throwing him in a british jail. It's not like he had a lot of options other than staying at the embassy.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:15PM (1 child)
"He's screwed."
Let us remember that he is only one human. There is no need to be scared. The system keeps us down through fear, intimidation and threats. The moment we let go of those fake negative feelings (fear etc), the system will go into panic mode.
If we keep living in our safe cocoons, we are indeed screwed.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @06:14PM
all we have to do is quit paying for it like cowards and it will wither and die.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:43PM
Apparently the author doesn't have a calendar and/or can't count. I don't support Trump, but fuck off partisan twat.
Have a nice day.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:09PM
Khazar jews are great proponents of torture, both physical and psychological. Most in positions of power in NKVD were khazar jews, who oversaw the torture and murder of innumerable millions of innocent men, women and children.
It is no surprise that their news organizations boycotted a news briefing about a real journalist being tortured. For the filthy khazar jewish rats, owning the newspapers and media was never about journalism; it was about controlling information and manipulating public opinion to hide the great jewish menace that lurks among and over us.
B.D.S: Boycott - Divest - Sanction. Boycott everything khazar-jewish. Those filthy cancerous inhuman rats!
(Score: 5, Insightful) by bart on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:19PM (1 child)
The ignoring of what's being done to Assange provides us with a list of mainstream media outlets currently wholly owned by the CIA/State Dept/...
* Washington Post
* New York Times
* the Guardian
* CNN
* ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird [wikipedia.org] is more active than it ever was.
(Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Sunday October 20 2019, @01:51PM
I can't say for certain what has happened with Wikileaks and Mr. Assange, but here is what I can say:
-in all of my research of all topics, the wikileaks/assange topic takes the cake in difficulty, wierdness and inception-style upside down-ness
-something purge-coup-like happened to the mods on r/wikileaks and r/conspiracy at exactly the same time in 2016
-there was a series of happening in oct. 2016 involving wikileaks and mr. assange that had a significant impact on the election that elected the current president
-arjen camphuis, wth kayaking accident sounds legit
-the whole equador connection makes no rational sense
-the swedish ladies were not in bed with him because they were attracted to him
-setting someone up to date informants who have the intention of setting up future legal and rhetorical attacks, cutting off their banking, placing someone in legal limbo, monitoring all communications, imprisoning indefinitely on technicalities, is torture. Any person in the world would fear this as much or more than actually facing thumbscrews or waterboarding.
-the organizations mentioned above and more are complicit, meaning they are comprimised in the sense that anyone actually attempting to reveal the truth through them will find themselves betrayed.
-the guardian's reputation is on the line, and every journalistic institution is at risk of infiltration and subversion through ownership
-the intercept and a lot of other organizations that should be doing something are apparently completely ineffectual, and independent journalism is in chaos while every day a hundred new shill websites go up
-it is very difficult to argue that Mr. Assange has any rights at all whatsoever
-they are doing to him exactly what they would to to someone they were trying to drive insane while pretending they are not doing anything at all
If this can happen to anyone on planet earth, it can happen to any one of us just as easily, or moreso because now it is established precedent for what happens to you when you attempt to provide a method for the independent revelation of secrets.
The independent revelation of secrets is the primary role of journalism in society, so this is essentially an attack on everyone who believes in western civilization and in the duty of The State to legitimize itself by protecting the individual from tyranny.
Which is to say what they are doing to Julian Assange is Tyranny as clearly as the sky is blue and the ocean deep.
thesesystemsarefailing.net
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:51PM (5 children)
To date, the US has done little if anything to Assange.
WHOA NOW! I like Assange. I support him. I think the US is entirely wrong to go after the man. But, seriously, honestly, the US hasn't had any opportunity to torture Assange. To date, all the US has done is to threaten Assange's freedom and human rights. Interfered with his money some. Coerced a foreign government to file bogus charges against the man. But, no torture. Yet.
I think that Trump should just give Assange a pardon. And, Snowden too. No need to have a kangaroo court, if the pardon is already given.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @02:07PM
🌈 Optimistic
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @05:27PM
Agree,
There is nothing good that comes out of these cases. One mentally disordered twink crashed national security with the help of a nomadic drifter. Making a bunch of drama about that says more the U.S. than it does about the supposed perpetrators.
Snowden is trying to come home, but fed has refused to allow him to file a defense of his choosing. Essentially the only way he can see a courtroom in the U.S. is if the verdict is already decided. Which again, says more about the U.S. than it does about Snowden.
They fucked up. They were told they were fucking up before they fucked up. They are still fucking up. Perhaps instead of trying to intimidate people who expose fuckups, try fucking up less?
97% of voters, vote for one side of a two man con.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by driverless on Sunday October 20 2019, @12:09AM (2 children)
Also, look at the source for that "story": It's the World Socialist Web Site parroting a story from the Russian government's official propaganda channel. So we have one of two things:
Gosh, I wonder which one it is?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @12:25AM (1 child)
So nobody you trust showed up to the Special Rapporteur on Torture's press briefing. Just in case you were wondering, he is not some pariah or guy standing on a street corner.
Russia doesn't have a monopoly on propaganda, and the Western media outlets will outright ignore inconvenient information whenever possible. The existence of Wikileaks has been inconvenient for many people.
(Score: 2) by driverless on Monday October 21 2019, @12:54AM
There are many explanations for that, the most likely being that the media has got tired of Assange's publicity-seeking behaviour. In this case in particular since he wasn't actually tortured, while there are vast numbers of people in conflict areas and under repressive regimes who are, I can see why the press reaction would be a giant ho-hum.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by looorg on Saturday October 19 2019, @02:33PM (7 children)
So not actual torture then, but something that amounts to "torture" -- whatever that is. I didn't scare quote torture, it was the world socialists and/or the UN. But apparently it amounts to hiding away in a foreign embassy for seven years or so to avoid or hinder prosecution and all his mental and physical issues/scars from that ordeal are now apparently "torture" inflicted upon him by his own actions but the responsibility of someone else? OK ...
How was the reporting in May since this was just a follow-up session? Perhaps the last reporting was such a dud that nobody wanted to bother showing up for it this time? Or they know that nothing new would come of it and there might have been more interesting things happening that day, after all most things that can be said about the whole thing have already been said by now. Nothing new is really about to happen or come to light. But instead it's put forward as being some kind of grand conspiracy by the media and governments around the world.
Him now being confined at Belmarsh is fairly obvious since last time he was given bail he decided to skip his bail and dash to the Ecuadorian embassy to hide away for years. Something no justice system would appreciate or want to see repeated again. No matter who you are and what you did or did not do. If he was given bail again isn't it fairly likely that he would once again try to do a runner to another embassy or somehow try and and evade the law?
Are said people even in power any longer? As far as I can tell it was mostly various presidential hopefuls such as Huckabee and Palin that wanted him dead and none of them are as far as I know any longer considered to be "senior US politician". As far as I know there have been no recent or credible threats of assassination from the US government towards Assange. As far as I know neither Obama or Trump have come out as pro-assassination in his case, at least not publicly.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @04:15PM
huckabee and palin both qualify for senior discounts at chipoltle. i'd say that's pretty senior.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @07:36PM
There was the whole "can't we just drone that guy" from Hillary when SoS, but that was a leak so it's not verified (not that it matters these days).
(Score: 1, Troll) by Nuke on Saturday October 19 2019, @07:47PM (1 child)
The snowflakes' new definition of torture is something that upsets someone. Assange was upset by his confining himself to the Ecuadorian embassy.
I can sympathise. I am being tortured by not getting a date with Mia Kalifa. I called a press conference about it but no-one came.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @11:57PM
So you watched that Mia Khalifa fan fuck video, huh?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @11:46PM (2 children)
Hillary still hates his guts and blames him for losing. That's near enough to a death sentence in the US. He'll get epsteined.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @12:01AM
Assange is the rare individual who has gotten death threats from both Democrats and Republicans.
Even if Hillary is too world weary to order the hit, someone will do him in.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday October 20 2019, @12:31AM
Fucked to death by busloads of teen non-virgins?
(Score: 3, Informative) by maxwell demon on Saturday October 19 2019, @07:26PM (10 children)
Is there any non-RT account of that event even happening? Because I don't consider RT a reliable source of information.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @08:35PM (3 children)
I was thinking the exact same thing. If the only "news" organization willing to show up for this is RT that's a pretty solid indication that this is most likely going to be pure propaganda grand standing.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @12:08AM (2 children)
Or mainstream media outlets ignore inconvenient news to come out of the UN, as they have done in the past.
The sad fact is that RT is a necessary evil to counteract the more subtle evil of other media outlets.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @03:13AM
Oh, really, Mr "Insightful"? Care to give us a few examples of "inconvenient" news stories to come out of the UN which were ignored by "mainstream" media outlets? I await your response with 'bated breath.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @03:18AM
The "sad fact" is that RT is a Kremlin mouthpiece. That doesn't necessarily mean that everything they report is mere propaganda, but it does mean that I will typically want a more reputable source before I believe what they are reporting. Nice try, though. Just out of curiosity, you wouldn't happen to be getting paid to shill for RT, would you? Just asking.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @09:48PM (1 child)
I don't know man, you could ask the journalists you trust to investigate it...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @03:23AM
My guess is that other journalists probably did take an initial look at this story and decided it didn't pass the smell test. When it looks like BS and smells like BS, most reasonable people are going to decide that it likely is BS. Just sayin'.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @12:06AM (2 children)
Video [youtube.com] of the United Nations special rapporteur on torture isn't enough for you?
Here is the older press release of him saying the same thing:
https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=24665 [ohchr.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @03:42AM
While I, as an American, largely share Mr Nils Melzer's concerns about whether Julian Assange could ever get a fair trial in the US, I find his characterization of the situation as "torture" a bit over the top. It looks, to my eye, like what is "torturing" Julian Assange is the possibility that he might have to appear in court and answer to possible crimes committed. I would think that if Mr Assange really did respect rule of law that he should welcome his day in court, assuming of course that he could get a fair trial. Please don't take this as a casual dismissal of Assange's plight. On the contrary, I think he would get a lot more sympathy from "the common man in the street" if he focused on that part about ensuring he gets a fair and public trial so that he can lay bare before a candid world the injustices present in the current system.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by maxwell demon on Sunday October 20 2019, @04:41AM
I know that these days, videos can be faked in very sophisticated ways. And that video in question comes from RT. Note also that in most of the Video, Nils Melzer doesn't even mention the name Assange or anything specific about himhim, so it is possible that those parts are cut in from another context. Note also that you don't see the askers speaking, so you can't know whether the questions they asked are really the questions you hear.
And it's not as if RT was the only media that is not part of Western main stream media. If the only source worldwide is RT, that's quite suspicious.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Sunday October 20 2019, @02:00PM
Not everything russians say is propaganda.
All propaganda has to include some truth or it doesn't work.
If you read the news from your country, and the news from a country that doesnt like your country, the truth generally lies in between.
About this particular matter, Russia has no real reason to lie, I don't think. The truth is damning enough.
There is a reason why I can only find R.T., FTA:
'Melzer’s message fell largely on deaf ears, as only a handful of reporters attended Tuesday’s press conference at the UN headquarters in New York. '
The silence of the usa media is a big part of the story, and the torture. It is quite indicative of the people currently holding power, and some evidence that Assange was real. Russia didn't save him. The cultural hegemony nearly completely abandons him after attacking him in every way you can attack a non-violent person.
The people who want to help him are so confused about what to do they don't know where to start.
There but for grace go we all. It's the modern crucifixion. No one can even be certain they dont replace him with a body double or use him for experimentation, or something bizarro like that. This is next level bad.