Arctic's Freezer 50 TR Air Cooler w/ RGB for AMD's Threadripper Launched
The manufacturer does not disclose the cooler's rated TDP, but says that it can cool down Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX as well as CPUs 'of 32 cores and beyond'. So as we've seen with some other air coolers of this size (which can handle upwards of 340W) it's a reasonable bet that the 50 TR can dissipate at least 250 W of heat, leaving some additional headroom for overclocking and/or future processors with a higher TDP.
The back of the box says "It is an extremely powerful cooling solution for AMD sTR4 Threadripper® CPU, capable of efficiently and quietly cooling even 32- and 64-core CPUs with a TDP up to 250 W." sTR4 = Socket TR4.
Other leaks suggest that 24-core and 32-core Threadripper models will launch in November, alongside the 16-core Ryzen 9 3950X, while 48-core and 64-core models will launch in January 2020. Some features, including 8-channel memory support, may require new motherboards.
Here's a speculated lineup of a 24-core 3960X, 32-core 3970X, 48-core 3980X, and 64-core 3990X alongside older models.
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AMD previously told us that it's long-awaited Ryzen 9 3950X, a 16-core 32-thread behemoth destined for the mainstream desktop, would arrive in September 2019, but today the company announced it is delaying the release until November while it focuses on meeting the demand for existing chips.
The company did throw us a bone, though, and also announced for the first time that the third-generation Threadripper processors would launch in November, though the graphic clearly states they will debut with 24 cores instead of the expected 32, or even 64, cores.
Aside from the mention of 24 cores, AMD doesn't give us any specific details of the new Threadripper chips. There's no shortage of possible reasons the company has delayed the Ryzen 9 3950X, with the most obvious being the company's struggles to meet the current level of demand for its highest-end chips.
AMD has announced its latest Threadripper high end desktop CPUs, along with a launch date for the Ryzen 9 3950X:
AMD is set to close out the year on a high note. As promised, the company will be delivering its latest 16-core Ryzen 9 3950X processor, built with two 7nm TSMC chiplets, to the consumer platform for $749. Not only this, but AMD today has lifted the covers on its next generation Threadripper platform, which includes Zen 2-based chiplets, a new socket, and an astounding 4x increase in CPU-to-chipset bandwidth.
Reviews of the 16-core 3950X will appear on November 14, with retail availability on November 25. The "mainstream" CPU has a 3.5 GHz base clock, 4.7 GHz single-core boost clock, and 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes. Unlike most Ryzen CPUs, the 3950X will not come with a bundled cooler, and AMD has published a list of recommended coolers instead.
All Ryzen 3000-series CPUs can now be configured to use a lower TDP using AMD's software:
The AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X and 3970X Review: 24 and 32 Cores on 7nm
Today's launch covers two products: the 24-core TR 3960X and the 32-core TR 3970X. Both of these processors are built from four Zen 2 chiplets paired with a single I/O die, with each chiplet having 6 cores or 8 cores respectively. Both CPUs support 64 PCIe 4.0 lanes, four DDR4-3200 memory channels, and are built on a new sTRX4 socket with a new all-AMD TRX40 chipset.
[...] I have never used the word 'bloodbath' in a review before. It seems messy, violent, and a little bit gruesome. But when we look at the results from the new AMD Threadripper processors, it seems more than appropriate.
[...] AMD has scored wins across almost all of our benchmark suite. In anything embarrassingly parallel it rules the roost by a large margin (except for our one AVX-512 benchmark). Single threaded performance trails the high-frequency mainstream parts, but it is still very close. Even in memory sensitive workloads, an issue for the previous generation Threadripper parts, the new chiplet design has pushed performance to the next level. These new Threadripper processors win on core count, on high IPC, on high frequency, and on fast memory.
AMD Pre-Announces 64-core Threadripper 3990X: Time To Open Your Wallet
Ever since AMD announced its latest enterprise platform, Rome, and the EPYC 7002 series, one question that high-end desktop users have been wondering is when the 64-core hardware will filter down into more mainstream markets. White today AMD is announcing their Threadripper 3000 platform with 24-core and 32-core processors, the other part of AMD's announcement today is that yes, they will be selling 64-core hardware to the masses, in the form of the Threadripper 3990X.
AMD isn't giving too many details away just yet. As we predicted, there was room at the top of AMD's naming strategy to expose more Threadripper hardware: one does not simply stop as the 3970X being the most powerful processor, and the 3990X will certainly take the mantle. AMD is announcing today that the 3990X will have 64 cores, 128 threads, and will have the full 256 MB of L3 cache.
Previously: 64-Core AMD Threadripper CPUs Suggested by Release of Cooler
AMD Announces 3rd-Generation Threadripper CPUs, Ryzen 9 3950X available on November 25th, and More
AMD's 64-core, 128-thread processor for workstation/"prosumer"/enthusiast users has been reviewed:
- The 64 Core Threadripper 3990X CPU Review: In The Midst Of Chaos, AMD Seeks Opportunity
- AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X Offers Incredible Linux Performance
- System76 Launches Impressive Line Of Thelio Major Linux Workstations Powered By AMD Ryzen Threadripper - Including The 3990X
- CPUs From 2004 Against AMD's New 64-Core Threadripper 3990X + Tests Against FX-9590
- AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X 64 Core, The Ultimate HEDT CPU For $4000 US Unleashed – MSI, ASRock & ASUS Break Several World-Records
- Review: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X - 64 processor cores and 128 threads in one CPU package
In summary, it's fast and power efficient. Many applications won't benefit from more than 32 cores, and different versions of Windows 10 handle 128 threads differently.
Linus Torvalds Just Made A Big Optimization To Help Code Compilation Times On Big CPUs
For those using GNU Make in particular as their build system, the parallel build times are about to be a lot faster beginning with Linux 5.6 for large core count systems. This landing just after the AMD Threadripper 3990X 64-core / 128-thread CPU launch is one example of systems to benefit from this kernel change when compiling a lot of code and making use of many GNU Make jobs.
Linus Torvalds himself changed around the kernel's pipe code to use exclusive waits when reading or writing. While this doesn't mean much for traditional/common piping of data, the GNU Make job-server is a big benefactor as it relies upon a pipe for limiting the parallelism. This technique though employed by the GNU Make job server is inefficient with today's high core count CPUs as all of the spawned processes are woken up rather than a single reader to be woken upon a writer's release.
Previously:
AMD Announces Ryzen 4000-Series Mobile Chips, 64-Core Threadripper Release Date, and More
AMD's Threadripper 3960X and 3970X Reviewed; 64-core 3990X Confirmed
AMD Announces 3rd-Generation Threadripper CPUs, Ryzen 9 3950X available on November 25th, and More
64-Core AMD Threadripper CPUs Suggested by Release of Cooler
(Score: 2) by opinionated_science on Saturday October 19 2019, @05:44PM (5 children)
Thanks for keeping us in the Ryzen loop!
lmk when a dual-Epyc comes up for review....
Unfortunately, it'll be Nvidia GPU's as I depend on CUDA...
(Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday October 19 2019, @05:56PM (4 children)
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16819113581?Description=AMD%20Epyc&cm_re=AMD_Epyc-_-19-113-581-_-Product [newegg.com]
You mean this? You can already buy them.
Threadripper will be much cheaper.
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(Score: 2) by opinionated_science on Saturday October 19 2019, @06:28PM (3 children)
I'm hoping next release ups the core count, but we'll see in the next few months how much 1TB of DDR4 costs...
I'm not expecting AVX-512 from AMD as I have read it takes a lot of power for Intel to maintain, but at least some tensor/vector improvements would be nice.
Although GPUs have taken over alot of cycle density, there remain fine grain problems better suited to CPU/Cache blobs.
For a home video server, Threadripper is pretty much perfect - even with ZFS ;-)
(Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday October 19 2019, @06:51PM
AMD EPYC Genoa ‘Zen 4’ CPUs To Feature New Memory, New Socket ‘SP5 Platform’ & New Capabilities – EPYC Milan ‘Zen 3’ To Retain 64 Cores, PCIe 4, DDR4 & Socket Compatibility [wccftech.com]
Current speculation is that Zen 3 in 2020 will not have any core count bumps, and will be the last one compatible with current sockets. Overall performance could increase 12-15% (from +8% IPC and +200 MHz clocks).
Then Zen 4 in 2021 will break compatibility and support DDR5 memory. Zen 4 could also have on-chip memory (L4 cache) stacked on the I/O die. If Zen 4 uses TSMC's "5nm" node, there would be a significant size reduction of 8-core chiplets, allowing more to be packed onto the processor and giving you that core count bump. 96 cores? Maybe 128 cores by Zen 6 on "3nm GAA".
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(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @10:47PM (1 child)
So what's your home? A polygamist compound where you need 200 kids and 25 "wives" entertained?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @08:00AM
You say that like it's a bad thing.
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday October 19 2019, @07:45PM (5 children)
I've always laughed at overclocking fags, even when I first saw it in action and before I knew how to build a computer. It's like inheriting a 900-horsepower car and thinking you're gonna get wycked gains putting a fart pipe on it to add 10 horsepower while prematurely destroying the engine.
Actually there was one decent application of overclocking: Building underpowered Duron systems to sell to naive schmucks at an obscene markup, and they still bought them because they were cheaper than buying one at the store.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @09:12PM
Yeah, yeah, EF. We already knew you liked chortling with fags.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday October 19 2019, @10:43PM
The chips pretty much overclock automatically now based on local conditions, variance in quality of the individual chip you bought ("silicon lottery"), and your cooling setup. Drop in a better cooler, and you should get consistently (at least slightly) higher performance.
"prematurely destroying the [chip]" is a myth. They should be able to get hotter than boiling with no damage. Chips throttle far below temperatures that would cause damage. Worry about temperature in a laptop, not desktop.
Threadripper chiplets are of lower quality than Epyc, so they get higher TDPs and are less efficient, but they are clocked higher for better user/gaming experience. Epyc customers are the most important for AMD, Threadripper is for users who could use all the cores or want to splurge.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @10:50PM (2 children)
2000 called. They want their 20-year-old reference back along with the 20 year old technology. Today you get better performance from a Raspberry Pi!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @11:28PM (1 child)
i always thought duron was a condom brand.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @10:52AM
That's what you get for having bought a PC built by Ethanol-fueled.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @01:30AM (1 child)
They forgot to tell you all that power is not just for number crunching. Half of that power goes to a Neural Network A.I engine analyzing the data you are processing and data on your hard drives.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday October 20 2019, @02:11AM
You're thinking of Intel Movidius.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @02:18AM (1 child)
AMD is default in DIY circles now. I don;t think investors have realized what it means. AMD still needs to deliver though.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by takyon on Sunday October 20 2019, @06:57AM
They have caught some flak for CPUs like 3900X being out of stock and price gouged. Can't find that one at Newegg or Microcenter right now, although it looks like Amazon [amazon.com] has it at normal MSRP. And the cheaper CPUs are the top sellers [techradar.com] anyway.
Then you have the 2 month delay of the 3950X. Some people are holding out for that one.
In some cases you have the option of using an older Zen CPU, which are at great discounts now, and then switching to Ryzen 3000. Depends on motherboard compatibility.
AMD and TSMC are trying to reassure customers/investors [pcgamesn.com] that production is speeding up. TSMC's "7nm+" EUV [eetimes.com] node supposedly has better than expected yields.
Overall, AMD is doing well, and by the time Intel can strike back on desktops in 2021 or 2022, AMD could be on at least Zen 4. Also, that recent round of Intel price cuts [soylentnews.org] will not be enough [wccftech.com].
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