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posted by martyb on Friday November 08 2019, @04:00PM   Printer-friendly
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AMD has announced its latest Threadripper high end desktop CPUs, along with a launch date for the Ryzen 9 3950X:

AMD is set to close out the year on a high note. As promised, the company will be delivering its latest 16-core Ryzen 9 3950X processor, built with two 7nm TSMC chiplets, to the consumer platform for $749. Not only this, but AMD today has lifted the covers on its next generation Threadripper platform, which includes Zen 2-based chiplets, a new socket, and an astounding 4x increase in CPU-to-chipset bandwidth.

Reviews of the 16-core 3950X will appear on November 14, with retail availability on November 25. The "mainstream" CPU has a 3.5 GHz base clock, 4.7 GHz single-core boost clock, and 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes. Unlike most Ryzen CPUs, the 3950X will not come with a bundled cooler, and AMD has published a list of recommended coolers instead.

All Ryzen 3000-series CPUs can now be configured to use a lower TDP using AMD's software:

One side announcement from AMD, regarding all of the Ryzen 3000 hardware, is that every CPU now supports a cTDP down mode through the Ryzen Master software. With the tool, users can select the next power range down from the TDP of the processor. This means that 95W/105W CPUs can be set to run at 65W, then the 65W CPUs can be set to run at 45W, and the 45W CPUs can run at 35W.

AMD is doing this because they have seen a number of customers request high-core count processors at lower TDP values. Rather than releasing a wide array of X and non-X parts to satisfy all different areas of the market, AMD is offering this 'cTDP down-like' option for system builders that do want to focus on something like a 65W 16-core processor for their system. This isn't to say that AMD will not release non-X CPUs in the future (they're typically cheaper than the X CPUs), but rather than have customers wait for those parts to enter the market, AMD is giving this option to speed up adoption.

The initial Threadripper 3 CPUs are the 24-core 3960X ($1400) and 32-core 3970X ($2000), also launching on November 25. These chips require a new sTRX4 socket and TRX40 motherboards. The new chipset will allow motherboard manufacturers to offer different combinations of PCIe 4.0 lanes, SATA ports, NVMe slots, etc. Threadripper 3 supports higher clocked and denser RAM than the previous Threadripper CPUs:

Each CPU supports four channels of DDR4-3200. We confirmed that this included support for ECC UDIMMs on a board-by-board basis, but does not include RDIMM or LRDIMM support. AMD did state that these new CPUs are validated for the 32 GB DDR4 modules coming onto the market, which makes a realistic maximum DRAM support of 256GB (8 x 32GB).

A 48-core 3980X or 64-core 3990X is expected to be announced in January, but neither CPU has been confirmed by AMD yet.

At the very opposite end of the lineup, AMD has announced the Athlon 3000G, a 35W dual-core Zen+ ("12nm") APU with a bundled cooler for just $50. It comes with 3 Vega graphics compute units, compared to 8 for the $100 Ryzen 3 3200G or 11 for the $150 Ryzen 5 3400G.

Also at Guru3D (3950X), CNET, PCWorld, The Verge, and Tom's Hardware.

Previously:
AMD Details Three Navi GPUs and First Mainstream 16-Core CPU
16-Core Ryzen 9 3950X and 24-core Threadripper 3 Will Launch in November
64-Core AMD Threadripper CPUs Suggested by Release of Cooler
Custom Power Plan Could Improve Ryzen 3000-Series Clock Speeds by 200-250 MHz


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AMD Details Three Navi GPUs and First Mainstream 16-Core CPU 30 comments

At AMD's keynote at the 2019 Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3), AMD CEO Lisa Su announced three new "7nm" Navi GPUs and a new CPU.

The AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT will have 2560 stream processors (40 compute units) capable of 9.75 TFLOPs of FP32 performance, with 8 GB of 14 Gbps GDDR6 VRAM. The price is $449. The AMD RX 5700 cuts that down to 2304 SPs (36 CUs), 7.9 TFLOPs, at $379. There is a higher clocked "50th anniversary" version of the 5700 XT that offers up to 10.14 teraflops for $499. A teraflop on one of these new cards supposedly means better graphics performance than older Polaris-based GPUs:

Looking at these clockspeed values then, in terms of raw throughput the new card is expected to get between 9 TFLOPs and 9.75 TFLOPs of FP32 compute/shading throughput. This is a decent jump over the Polaris cards, but on the surface it doesn't look like a huge, generational jump, and this is where AMD's RDNA architecture comes in. AMD has made numerous optimizations to improve their GPU utilization – that is, how well they put those FLOPs to good use – so a teraflop on a 5700 card means more than it does on preceding AMD cards. Overall, AMD says that they're getting around 25% more work done per clock on the whole in gaming workloads. So raw specs can be deceiving.

The GPUs do not include real-time raytracing or variable rate pixel shading support. These may appear on a future generation of GPUs. Instead, AMD talked about support for DisplayPort 1.4 with Display Stream Compression, a contrast-enhancing post-processing filter, AMD Radeon Image Sharpening, and a Radeon Anti-lag feature to reduce input lag.

Towards the end of the presentation, AMD revealed the 16-core Ryzen 9 3950X, the company's fully-fledged Ryzen CPU with two 8-core "7nm" Zen 2 chiplets. Compared to the 12-core Ryzen 9 3900X CPU, the 3950X has a slightly higher boost clock and L2 cache, with the same 105 Watt TDP, for $749. This is the full lineup so far:

CPUCores / ThreadsFrequencyTDPPrice
Ryzen 9 3950X16 / 323.5 - 4.7 GHz105 W$749
Ryzen 9 3900X12 / 243.8 - 4.6 GHz105 W$499
Ryzen 7 3800X8 / 163.9 - 4.5 GHz105 W$399
Ryzen 7 3700X8 / 163.6 - 4.4 GHz65 W$329
Ryzen 5 3600X6 / 123.8 - 4.4 GHz95 W$249
Ryzen 5 36006 / 123.6 - 4.2 GHz65 W$199

Previously: AMD and Intel at Computex 2019: First Ryzen 3000-Series CPUs and Navi GPU Announced


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16-Core Ryzen 9 3950X and 24-core Threadripper 3 Will Launch in November 2 comments

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-9-3950x-delay-launch-third-gen-threadripper,40442.html

AMD previously told us that it's long-awaited Ryzen 9 3950X, a 16-core 32-thread behemoth destined for the mainstream desktop, would arrive in September 2019, but today the company announced it is delaying the release until November while it focuses on meeting the demand for existing chips.

The company did throw us a bone, though, and also announced for the first time that the third-generation Threadripper processors would launch in November, though the graphic clearly states they will debut with 24 cores instead of the expected 32, or even 64, cores.

Aside from the mention of 24 cores, AMD doesn't give us any specific details of the new Threadripper chips. There's no shortage of possible reasons the company has delayed the Ryzen 9 3950X, with the most obvious being the company's struggles to meet the current level of demand for its highest-end chips.


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64-Core AMD Threadripper CPUs Suggested by Release of Cooler 16 comments

Arctic's Freezer 50 TR Air Cooler w/ RGB for AMD's Threadripper Launched

The manufacturer does not disclose the cooler's rated TDP, but says that it can cool down Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX as well as CPUs 'of 32 cores and beyond'. So as we've seen with some other air coolers of this size (which can handle upwards of 340W) it's a reasonable bet that the 50 TR can dissipate at least 250 W of heat, leaving some additional headroom for overclocking and/or future processors with a higher TDP.

The back of the box says "It is an extremely powerful cooling solution for AMD sTR4 Threadripper® CPU, capable of efficiently and quietly cooling even 32- and 64-core CPUs with a TDP up to 250 W." sTR4 = Socket TR4.

Other leaks suggest that 24-core and 32-core Threadripper models will launch in November, alongside the 16-core Ryzen 9 3950X, while 48-core and 64-core models will launch in January 2020. Some features, including 8-channel memory support, may require new motherboards.

Here's a speculated lineup of a 24-core 3960X, 32-core 3970X, 48-core 3980X, and 64-core 3990X alongside older models.


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Custom Power Plan Could Improve Ryzen 3000-Series Clock Speeds by 200-250 MHz on Windows 7 comments

AMD Custom Power Plan Boosts Turbo Speeds Of Ryzen 3000 CPUs By 250MHz, Up To 4.6GHz Now Possible On Ryzen 9 3900X!

Here is something you don't see every day: 1usmus, an AMD Ryzen developer and author of DRAM Calculator for Ryzen, has revealed a new power plan that nets an average increase of 200-250MHz on AMD Ryzen 3000 series processors (including the upcoming Threadripper 3000 series based on the sRTX4 socket). This is absolutely insane considering turbo clocks are usually pretty much fixed across processors and AMD users will suddenly be able to get much higher performance per dollar for parts that they have already purchased.

[...] [According] to 1usmus, the mod is currently working the best on dies with at least two CCDs (i.e. more than 8 cores) such as the Ryzen 3900 and 3950X while others will notice "positive gains". This means that you can expect even higher performance boosts on the upcoming Threadripper series which features even more than two CCDs.

The AMD developer states that he has sent an official recommendation to AMD and hopes it will be made part of the official stack soon enough. Considering AMD has always been very historically open to suggestions and improvements I won't be surprised to see this upgrade rolled out officially soon enough (maybe as a setting in the control panel?).

Here is the interesting part however, the processor actually increases in energy efficiency with this new power plan. 1usmus has achieved this by using an optimized load balancer approach. While AMD's official stack loads up bad cores (cores which may not boost as high), the custom stack loads up the best cores, allowing for higher boosts and an increased power efficiency curve. The stock AMD stack also uses multiple cores with an uneven distribution of load while as 1usmus' custom plan utilizes only two "good" cores.

1usmus Custom Power Plan for Ryzen 3000 Zen 2 Processors


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AMD's 16-core Ryzen 9 3950X Reviewed 10 comments

The AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review: 16 Cores on 7nm with PCIe 4.0

Earlier this year AMD pushed again, this time putting 12 cores in the market for the same price as 8, or what had been the 4-core price point only three years prior. In three years we had triple the cores for the same price, and these cores also have more raw performance. The frequency wasn't as high as the competition, but this was offset by that raw clock-for-clock throughput and ultimately where the competition now offered eight cores, AMD offered 12 at a much lower power consumption to boot.

Today is round 2 part 2: taking that same 12-core processor, and adding four more cores (for a 50% increase in price), and not only going after the best consumer processor Intel has to offer, but even the best high-end desktop processor. This is AMD squeezing Intel's product portfolio like never before. What exactly is mainstream, anyway?

AMD's new Ryzen 9 3950X has a suggested retail price of $749. For that AMD is advertising sixteen of its latest Zen 2 cores built on TSMC's 7nm process, running at a 3.5 GHz base frequency and a 4.7 GHz single-core turbo frequency. The TDP of the chip is rated at 105 watts and it has 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes as well as dual memory channels that support up to 128 GB of DDR4-3200.

AMD's Threadripper 3960X and 3970X Reviewed; 64-core 3990X Confirmed 8 comments

The AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X and 3970X Review: 24 and 32 Cores on 7nm

Today's launch covers two products: the 24-core TR 3960X and the 32-core TR 3970X. Both of these processors are built from four Zen 2 chiplets paired with a single I/O die, with each chiplet having 6 cores or 8 cores respectively. Both CPUs support 64 PCIe 4.0 lanes, four DDR4-3200 memory channels, and are built on a new sTRX4 socket with a new all-AMD TRX40 chipset.

[...] I have never used the word 'bloodbath' in a review before. It seems messy, violent, and a little bit gruesome. But when we look at the results from the new AMD Threadripper processors, it seems more than appropriate.

[...] AMD has scored wins across almost all of our benchmark suite. In anything embarrassingly parallel it rules the roost by a large margin (except for our one AVX-512 benchmark). Single threaded performance trails the high-frequency mainstream parts, but it is still very close. Even in memory sensitive workloads, an issue for the previous generation Threadripper parts, the new chiplet design has pushed performance to the next level. These new Threadripper processors win on core count, on high IPC, on high frequency, and on fast memory.

AMD Pre-Announces 64-core Threadripper 3990X: Time To Open Your Wallet

Ever since AMD announced its latest enterprise platform, Rome, and the EPYC 7002 series, one question that high-end desktop users have been wondering is when the 64-core hardware will filter down into more mainstream markets. White today AMD is announcing their Threadripper 3000 platform with 24-core and 32-core processors, the other part of AMD's announcement today is that yes, they will be selling 64-core hardware to the masses, in the form of the Threadripper 3990X.

AMD isn't giving too many details away just yet. As we predicted, there was room at the top of AMD's naming strategy to expose more Threadripper hardware: one does not simply stop as the 3970X being the most powerful processor, and the 3990X will certainly take the mantle. AMD is announcing today that the 3990X will have 64 cores, 128 threads, and will have the full 256 MB of L3 cache.

Previously: 64-Core AMD Threadripper CPUs Suggested by Release of Cooler
AMD Announces 3rd-Generation Threadripper CPUs, Ryzen 9 3950X available on November 25th, and More


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AMD's 64-Core Threadripper 3990X Reviewed 10 comments

AMD's 64-core, 128-thread processor for workstation/"prosumer"/enthusiast users has been reviewed:

In summary, it's fast and power efficient. Many applications won't benefit from more than 32 cores, and different versions of Windows 10 handle 128 threads differently.

Linus Torvalds Just Made A Big Optimization To Help Code Compilation Times On Big CPUs

For those using GNU Make in particular as their build system, the parallel build times are about to be a lot faster beginning with Linux 5.6 for large core count systems. This landing just after the AMD Threadripper 3990X 64-core / 128-thread CPU launch is one example of systems to benefit from this kernel change when compiling a lot of code and making use of many GNU Make jobs.

Linus Torvalds himself changed around the kernel's pipe code to use exclusive waits when reading or writing. While this doesn't mean much for traditional/common piping of data, the GNU Make job-server is a big benefactor as it relies upon a pipe for limiting the parallelism. This technique though employed by the GNU Make job server is inefficient with today's high core count CPUs as all of the spawned processes are woken up rather than a single reader to be woken upon a writer's release.

Previously:
AMD Announces Ryzen 4000-Series Mobile Chips, 64-Core Threadripper Release Date, and More
AMD's Threadripper 3960X and 3970X Reviewed; 64-core 3990X Confirmed
AMD Announces 3rd-Generation Threadripper CPUs, Ryzen 9 3950X available on November 25th, and More
64-Core AMD Threadripper CPUs Suggested by Release of Cooler


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AMD Announces Zen 3 Threadripper Pro: Lenovo-Only Again 5 comments

AMD Announces Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000 WX-Series: Zen 3 For OEM Workstations

In 2020, AMD released a new series of workstation-focused processors under its Threadripper umbrella, aptly named the Threadripper Pro series. These chips were essentially true workstation versions of AMD's EPYC server processors, offering the same massive core counts and high memory bandwidth as AMD's high-performance server platform. By introducing Threadripper Pro, AMD carved out an explicit processor family for high-performance workstations, a task that was previously awkwardly juggled by the older Threadripper and EPYC processors.

Now, just under two years since the release of the original Threadripper 3000 Pro series, AMD is upgrading that lineup with the announcement of the new Threadripper Pro 5000 series. Based on AMD's Zen 3 architecture, the newest Threadripper Pro chips are designed to up the ante once more in terms of performance, taking advantage of Zen 3's higher IPC as well as higher clockspeeds. Altogether AMD is releasing five new SKUs, ranging from [core/thread counts of] 12c/24t to 64c/128t, which combined with support for 8 channels of DDR4 across the entire lineup, will offer a mix of chips for both CPU-hungry and bandwidth-hungry compute tasks.

[...] It should be noted that these new processors will be OEM-only, at least for now. This means that anyone looking to leverage AMD's Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000 WX-series processors will need to turn to Lenovo (or eventually, other applicable vendors) to obtain a complete system.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @04:28PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @04:28PM (#917924)

    If so, are they going to open source the code?

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @05:12PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @05:12PM (#917942)

      If you are worried about that shit go get a pc from before 2005 and run tails on it. For surfing porn, folding proteins, shitposting to sn, and simulating the universe there is no reason to care.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @06:07PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @06:07PM (#917958)

        2012ish for AMD CPUs if you use an older chipset, 2010 (Westmere) if your motherboard does't have the ICH10 (many had ICH9 instead, negating intel ME). Pre AM4 or LGA115x are mostly safe with methods to remove the firmware modules where they are not. Later processors include Process bootstrapping and signed memory initialization code in their SP/ME code modules.

      • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Friday November 08 2019, @08:39PM

        by RamiK (1813) on Friday November 08 2019, @08:39PM (#918024)

        go get a pc from before 2005...

        Or a Raptor Blackbird.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @08:59PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @08:59PM (#918385)

        I think if anything the past decade has shown, it's that any potential backdoor will, sooner or later, be exploited. Building systems with potentially severe security vulnerabilities, let alone in the name of security, is just not a good idea.

        Although even before the exploits become mainstream and it's your banking and various account informations being hacked, I would not rest easy with all your information 'just' being in the hands of the various nations' government intelligence agencies. See things like 'LOVEINT [slate.com]' at the NSA. That spying on lovers and various other personal interests has its own name is kind of telling. The article mentions only a relatively small number of incidents have been discovered (about a dozen so far), but those are of course only the incidents that end up with the individual getting busted. Presumably NSA guys with top secret clearance are also the type that have a better than average idea of how to do things covertly.

        Regardless, the point is that government isn't some singular entity - it's just made up of a bunch of normal (or less than normal... ) people. And so you should feel as happy with the NSA having all of your personal information as you might any other stranger who now knows exactly who you are alongside whatever data has been compromised.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @05:06PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @05:06PM (#917940)

    How much is 256 GB of compatible ram to go with all these threads?

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Friday November 08 2019, @06:48PM (10 children)

    by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Friday November 08 2019, @06:48PM (#917969) Journal

    AMD’s Flagship Ryzen Threadripper 3990X 64 Core & 128 Thread Monster CPU Leaks Out Accidentally By MSI [wccftech.com]

    Yet another leak confirming the existence of a 64-core Threadripper 3990X.

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by RandomFactor on Friday November 08 2019, @07:04PM (9 children)

      by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 08 2019, @07:04PM (#917977) Journal

      Do they include waterproofing for the drool?

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      • (Score: 4, Touché) by takyon on Friday November 08 2019, @07:12PM

        by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Friday November 08 2019, @07:12PM (#917983) Journal

        You could drip your drool into a liquid cooler.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @07:16PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @07:16PM (#917986)

        Yea, I've got a year old 2990wx with 128 gb ram and this honestly makes me feel like upgrading to a 3990 w 256 gb... If I could sell this one for like $5k next year (minus the drives) maybe I would do it.

        • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday November 08 2019, @08:56PM (2 children)

          by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Friday November 08 2019, @08:56PM (#918028) Journal

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4NNh6UUqCQ [youtube.com]

          As has been pointed out, the prices for these first two TR3 chips are NOT GOOD, because AMD has NO COMPETITION.

          It might be part of a ruse where AMD will wait to see how Intel prices its Cascade Lake-X chips (which were mysteriously delayed until later in November), and then drop the prices. After all, that's exactly what AMD did with Navi and Nvidia earlier this year [soylentnews.org]. If AMD had priced TR3 too cheap, Intel could just undercut them.

          AMD wants high margins for as long as possible. Intel can't effectively compete until 2021, so that is AMD's window to bulk up financially for the coming war.

          If you really do need 256 GB RAM, buy whatever you have to buy. But it might be worth it to wait for Zen 3 or Zen 4 based Threadrippers. The latter could switch to DDR5. Or pick up Threadripper 3 after prices collapse. 24-core 3960X is $1400, but 24-core 2970WX is $917 (from $1300).

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @09:47PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @09:47PM (#918053)

            Yea, I will definitely wait about a year either way. I had to RMA my cooler a few times last time. Not really AMD's fault, but still.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @09:51PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @09:51PM (#918056)

              Also, last time was an upgrade from a 4c/8t i7-3630 w 16 gb. So the difference (~8x) was much greater than this upgrade (~2x).

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @09:57PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @09:57PM (#918060)

        It runs hot enough to flash-evaporate the drool before it reaches the CPU.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @10:16PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @10:16PM (#918064)

          These are 280 TDP under normal usage conditions. Intel's competition is 400 TDP while idle (so ~ 800 under normal load).

          • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @11:24PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08 2019, @11:24PM (#918081)

            Fake news. Intel chips use 125W whether idle or under load. The extra power usage you see depends on how fast the TLAs are running the IME.

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @01:46AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @01:46AM (#918127)

    The 3950X will be a great CPU, but it is held back severely by the AM4 socket, which only can support 24 PCIe lanes and 64GB of dual channel memory. The Threadripper socket is more appropriate for a CPU of that capability, but anything having to do with Threadripper costs a fortune. Counting both CPU and motherboard, there's almost a $1000 price gap between the top of AM4 and the bottom of the new sTRX4.

    Much as I'm hoping for improvement with AM5, it probably won't improve much because AMD also wants to keep prices down and they don't want to add even $30 to the cost of their low-end systems, and there's no way to get more PCIe or quad channel memory without increasing the pin count, which also increases the price.

    Intel, on the other hand, has LGA-2066, or LGA-2011 previously, which have double the PCIe lanes and memory channels, and support 2x or 4x as much maximum total memory respectively. Intel enthusiast platforms from eight years ago have more maximum memory size than high end AM4 systems that are being released next month! This doesn't show up in a benchmark, but as someone who uses a lot of PCIe lanes, quality of life is still better with Intel, even though AMD has the performance crown right now and much much less of a bug problem.

    Also, it's fun being in the future, where I can say things like "only 64GB of memory" with a straight face.

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday November 09 2019, @02:58AM

      by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Saturday November 09 2019, @02:58AM (#918141) Journal

      It looks like Zen 3 will remain on AM4, and deliver maybe a 10-15% overall performance increase (IPC and clocks). Then Zen 4 in 2021 will move to AM5, likely with DDR5 support.

      As for Threadripper being expensive, old parts are an option. 16-core Threadripper 1950X is $560 on Amazon right now. It will be outperformed by Ryzen 9 3950X, but it could get the job done.

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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @06:19AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @06:19AM (#918173)

      AM4 supports more than 64GB, even with Ryzen 1000 you could use 128GB RAM.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 10 2019, @06:57PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 10 2019, @06:57PM (#918668)

    the stupid fucking suited whores at AMD seem to have made Ryznen Master of windows only. dumb bitches.

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