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posted by martyb on Monday December 09 2019, @01:30AM   Printer-friendly
from the Swan-song? dept.

Intel's CEO Bob Swan is looking beyond CPU market share:

"We think about having 30% share in a $230 billion [silicon] TAM[*] that we think is going to grow to $300 billion [silicon] TAM over the next 4 years, and frankly, I'm trying to destroy the thinking about having 90% share inside our company because, I think it limits our thinking, I think we miss technology transitions. we miss opportunities because we're, in some ways pre-occupied with protecting 90, instead of seeing a much bigger market with much more innovation going on, both Inside our four walls, and outside our four walls, so we come to work in the morning with a 30% share, with every expectation over the next several years, that we will play a larger and larger role in our customers success, and that doesn't just [mean] CPUs.

It means GPUs, it means Al, it does mean FPGAs, it means bringing these -technologies together so we're solving customers' problems. So, we're looking at a company with roughly 30% share in a $288 billion silicon TAM, not CPU TAM but silicon TAM. We look at the investments we've been making over the last several years in these kind of key technology inflections: 5G At autonomous, acquisitions, including Altera, that we think is more and more relevant both in the cloud but also ai the network and at the edge, and we see a much bigger opportunity, and our expectations are that we're going to gain our fair share at that much larger TAM by Investing in these key technology inflections." - Intel CEO Bob Swan

A 30% TAM in all of silicon would mean that Intel not only has more room to grow but is a lot more diversified as well. With the company working on the Nervana processor as well as its Xe GPU efforts, it seems poised to start clawing market share in new markets. Interestingly, it also means that Intel is not interested in defending its older title of being the CPU champion and will actually cede space to AMD where required. To me, this move is reminiscent of Lisa Su's decision to cede space in the GPU side of things to turn AMD around.

Intel's business strategy is now focused on whatever an "XPU" is as well as GPUs, FPGAs, machine learning accelerators, and next-generation memory/storage:

This means the company intends to continue making its heaviest bets in areas such as Optane storage, hardware Artificial Intelligence acceleration, 5G modems, data center networking, and more. The slide that really drives this commitment home comes from Q2's investor meeting that explicitly shows the company moving from a "protect and defend" strategy to a growth strategy. If this slide were in a sales meeting, it wouldn't say much—but delivered to the company's investors, it gains a bit of gravitas.

Most of this was revealed nearly six months ago at the company's May 2019 investor's meeting, but the Q3 investor's meeting last week continues with and strengthens this story for Intel's future growth, with slides more focused on Optane, network, and IoT/Edge market growth than with the traditional PC and server market.

[*] TAM = Total Addressable Market.

Related: Intel Promises "10nm" Chips by the End of 2019, and More
Intel's Interim CEO Robert Swan Becomes Full-Time CEO
AMD Gains Market Share in Desktops, Laptops, and Servers as of Q4 2018
PC Market Decline Blamed on Intel, AMD to See Gains
Intel Chip Shortages - at Least Another Quarter or Two to Go, Say PC Execs
Intel announces $20 billion increase in stock buybacks (from $4.5 billion)
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Robert Swan (58) becomes chief exec of Intel at a rather interesting, yet challenging time. The world is at a strategical inflection point when multiple technologies have to converge in a bid to enable the next phase of industrial and social development. To stay relevant, Intel not only needs to retain its leading position as a developer and maker of CPUs and compute platforms, but also gain new important competencies. Meanwhile, the company is facing multiple challenges. Its traditional rivals are getting stronger (partly because they are forming alliances) and new competitors are emerging. In the meantime, Intel's leadership in semiconductor production is now challenged and many of its opponents have certain advantages.

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Today AMD shared numbers from third-party industry analyst firm Mercury Research that outline those gains. AMD gained share in desktop PC processors, notebooks, and servers, highlighting that its Zen-based processors continue to pressure Intel on all fronts, but more importantly, AMD's rate of growth is also accelerating. These improvements come as the company is on the cusp of releasing 7nm processors for the desktop PC and server markets, marking its first process node lead over Intel.

AMD now holds 15.8% of the desktop processor market, a 2.8% gain on a quarterly basis and a 3.9% year-over-year (YoY) improvement. That represents the company's largest portion of the market since the fourth quarter of 2014. [...] Notebook processors are critical because they comprise two-thirds of the overall processor market, but AMD has been plagued by slow uptake. That tide seems to be turning as the company gained 1.3% share on the quarter and a whopping 5.3% more share YoY. That marks the company's highest percentage of the notebook market since Q3 2013.

[...] During the company's recent earnings call, Lisa Su said that AMD had achieved its goal to claim "mid-single-digit" data center share in 2018. However, Mercury Research's server share projections are lower at 3.2% unit share. AMD shared its take on the disparity:

Mercury Research captures all x86 server class processors in their server unit estimate, regardless of device (server, network or storage), whereas the estimated 1P [single-socket] and 2P [two-socket] TAM [Total Addressable Market] provided by IDC only includes traditional servers. We used IDC's server forecast of the 1P and 2P server TAM of roughly 5M units to compute our server market share estimates. We believe that in Q4 2018 we achieved ~5% unit share of the 1P and 2P server market addressed by our EPYC processors (as defined by IDC).

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Talking at the Canalys Channels Forum in Barcelona, Alex Cho, president of HP's Personal Systems Business, claimed Intel's supply worries were across a portfolio of products, "not just specific CPUs".

[...] At the same event in the Catalonian capital, Gianfranco Lanci, chief operating officer at Lenovo, branded the lack of chips as a "concern" and a "limitation", saying the global PC market shipments could have grown at 7 to 8 per cent in Q3 if availability had improved, rather than the 4 per cent recorded.

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @02:24AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @02:24AM (#929895)

    Intel's 100% share of the market for baked-in spyware is something Boob Swan doesn't want you thinking about.

    • (Score: 2) by zeigerpuppy on Monday December 09 2019, @08:43AM (1 child)

      by zeigerpuppy (1298) on Monday December 09 2019, @08:43AM (#929987)

      You do know that AMD also has a similar system (called PSP), right?
      Perhaps you may be interested in RISC-V, that looks like it will be auditable at least...

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @12:56PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @12:56PM (#930028)

        Yes, but AMD's sends your data back to China which is of no concern unless you are Uighur, whereas Intel's sends all your information to Israel.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Captival on Monday December 09 2019, @02:31AM (2 children)

    by Captival (6866) on Monday December 09 2019, @02:31AM (#929897)

    Now that they have an actual competitor who is selling a cpu that's more powerful for half the price [youtube.com], suddenly they aren't interested anymore. It's a good thing too, because Intel was just gouging people with ridiculous markups and straight up lies [techspot.com] on that fake news "i9" series.

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by fustakrakich on Monday December 09 2019, @03:20AM (5 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday December 09 2019, @03:20AM (#929918) Journal

    Is it too late to stop 5G?

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    • (Score: 4, Funny) by takyon on Monday December 09 2019, @04:52AM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday December 09 2019, @04:52AM (#929948) Journal

      Stopping 5G will only make 6G stronger.

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    • (Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Monday December 09 2019, @05:37AM (2 children)

      by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Monday December 09 2019, @05:37AM (#929960) Journal

      Yes. To all three questions.
      What I really want and need, is an ipv6 endpoint-to-endpoint secure network over funny network. And for that, all the 5G switching infrastructure will be instrumental for the funny part.

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      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday December 09 2019, @06:00AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 09 2019, @06:00AM (#929965) Journal

        What I really want and need, is an ipv6 endpoint-to-endpoint secure network over funny network. And for that, all the 5G switching infrastructure will be instrumental for the funny part.

        Stop making me laugh. (grin)

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @06:06AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @06:06AM (#929967)

        It is weird that they are pushing for this new 5g thing when IPv6 is something that deserves much more attention and has been mostly ignored for a long time now.

    • (Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Monday December 09 2019, @12:43PM

      by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Monday December 09 2019, @12:43PM (#930018) Journal

      Not to anyone with a sledge hammer and hedge cutters.

      The raging diminutive boner intel/isreal clearly has for combining backdoored chips with 5g transmission capabilities is clearly showing through their expensive suitpants.

      One chip to rule them all....or so they thought.

      It is going to be fun driving this company bankrupt with facts! And making 5g undeployable due to repeated interference by giant raccoons.

      Another great reason to boycott sanction and divest from israel, who clearly think we should all lick their boots and be grateful for the chance.

      relevant memes:
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  • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @04:12AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @04:12AM (#929932)

    "We are not interested in defending our 90% marketshare."

    =

    "You cannot fire me. I quit."

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @11:59AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @11:59AM (#930012)

      Brilliant.

      Agreed. That's the underlying meaning of the Intel announcement. Don't get me wrong, diversifying makes sense when you literally have billions of dollars in profit and no other use for it. But Intel couldn't regain that 90% position no matter how much they wanted it.

      Now what we really need to drive prices down is a third major competitor in the consumer desktop CPU space. In a three way battle you might see Ryzen 3950X equivalent parts selling for $75. Unfortunately I don't think any other tech company, even among the giants, is in a position to challenge AMD and Intel on performance in the 60-180 watt power envelope.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Monday December 09 2019, @12:32PM (1 child)

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday December 09 2019, @12:32PM (#930017) Journal

        Huawei Launches ARM-Based Desktop Motherboards [soylentnews.org]
        Qualcomm Announces Snapdragon 8c and 7c for Cheaper ARM Laptops [soylentnews.org]

        ARM is obviously a contender in the personal computing space, although there is nothing targeted at enthusiasts yet, like a 3900X, 3950X, or Threadripper.

        ARM is rumored to be targeting discrete GPUs within the next couple of years, potentially turning that into a 4 or 5-way race [pcgamesn.com]. (I can't find a source on ARM discrete GPUs so take that with salt.)

        Apple has been thinking about designing its own ARM chips for desktops and laptops for years now. Will they ever make the switch? If they do something like switch from Intel to AMD CPUs (e.g. Threadripper in Mac Pro), I'd say the idea has been delayed for another few more years.

        The 60-180 Watt power envelope could be less important than you think. Designs like 3DSoC would use ARM or RISC-V cores, achieve better than current HEDT performance, potentially using less than 1 Watt. That could be scaled up but might remain well under 60 Watts. We might see a situation where the clock speed can't be raised high enough to cause the power consumption to rise back to today's levels. Coming performance increases could satisfy many users at low TDPs. I think most desktop users will eventually be using sub-45 Watt parts with SFF cases (physically larger SFF sizes can fit many more ports than smaller SBCs like Raspberry Pi). Laptop users will be at sub-10W (fanless).

        Raspberry Pi 4 is a legitimate lightweight desktop experience. Increase that level of performance by 100x at the same power, and many people will settle for that.

        Back to the short term. AMD is currently its own competitor for the most part. Next year's 4950X could cause 3950X to trend down to $500. Zen 4 (5000-series) may lead to core count increases above 16 [soylentnews.org]. Effective competition from Intel by 2022 could lower prices further.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @04:30PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @04:30PM (#930101)

          I agree. I should have been more explicit, I was thinking of PC gaming enthusiasts. That narrower space in the desktop computing market will be harder for ARM to penetrate, both in terms of raw performance and because thousands of existing titles would need x86_64 emulation on top of ARM to run at all.

          I haven't taken the Raspberry Pi 4 for a spin, I'll have to do that.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @04:40AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @04:40AM (#929942)

    Intel Not Focused on Defending High CPU Market Share FULLSTOP

    FTFY. Because redundancy is redundadnt.

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday December 09 2019, @04:54AM (2 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday December 09 2019, @04:54AM (#929951) Journal

      The CPU/APU is dead. Long live the XPU.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @05:46AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @05:46AM (#929962)

        What is an xpu?

        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday December 09 2019, @06:04AM

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 09 2019, @06:04AM (#929966) Journal

          Hot Chips [hotchips.org].
          In other meanings - the vaporware of the day.

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  • (Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Monday December 09 2019, @12:56PM (4 children)

    by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Monday December 09 2019, @12:56PM (#930029) Journal

    I have an idea, start a multi trillion dollar company and then completely ruin its reputation by installing a completely untrustworthy feature, then use advertising money to hypnotize superbowl viewers into ignoring all privacy concerns for 3% performance benefits that will mostly be used by spyware anyway.

    Boycott intel, we need completely different people making cpus. I will go ahead and say any chip that is known to have 5g intel on it, you should destroy in any and all situations that your life does not depend on.

    Which is to say, intel as a company is an equal threat to humanity at this point as cancer itself, and their products should be treated as such.

    'maybe the spy agency and cpu factory should not be the same building.' - me

    Red eye mcmahon is even warning you:
    https://archive.is/Eu1Z4 [archive.is]
    https://archive.ph/T95pm [archive.ph]
    https://archive.is/YkJr8 [archive.is]

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @02:32PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 09 2019, @02:32PM (#930058)

    These are the folks that invented computer on a chip and tick toc.
    That's two major, fundamental technologies. (Computer design and semiconductor processing)
    That is a great technology base to leverage other things like fpga and special purpose processors.

    They used these in concert to make the best available value for their customers.

    They got the cpu market thru shear technology.
    Then they got cocky and tried to keep it thru marketing.
    Sad that they seem to have forgotten to focus on the technology base that sustains them.

  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday December 09 2019, @11:45PM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday December 09 2019, @11:45PM (#930347) Journal
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