from the I'll-show-you-mine-if-you-show-me-yours dept.
Trump launches fresh attack on Apple over privacy:
US President Donald Trump has launched a fresh attack on Apple.
He tweeted that the company was refusing to unlock iPhones "used by killers, drug dealers and other violent criminal elements".
On Monday US Attorney General William Barr accused Apple of not being helpful in an inquiry into a shooting that is being treated as a terrorist act.
It is the latest in a series of clashes between the White House and technology giants over access to data.
Mr Trump accused Apple of refusing to co-operate with investigators despite his administration helping the company on trade and other issues.
The president's comments came a day after Mr Barr said Apple had failed to provide "substantive assistance" to unlock two iPhones in an investigation into a fatal shooting at a naval base in Pensacola, Florida.
Also at CNET
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 16 2020, @10:05AM (6 children)
As we have been telling you, Trump is and always has been a democrat in favor of big overbearing government.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 16 2020, @10:07AM
Now here come the fake TDS shills like deathmonkey (who are consistently wrong about every single thing) to do their best to convince me to vote for Trump.
(Score: 5, Informative) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Thursday January 16 2020, @12:25PM (4 children)
Because you think republicans aren't in favor of big overbearing government? How cute...
Hint: all of them are in favor of controlling the populace any which way they can.
(Score: 1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 16 2020, @02:43PM (3 children)
Not Ron Paul. He said he chose republican because they at least still pay lip service to the constitution and freedom. But yeah, most of these people are in the same gang (Romney, Kerry, Pelosi, Biden).
(Score: 3, Informative) by DannyB on Thursday January 16 2020, @04:37PM (2 children)
So Republicans "paying lip service" (aka "lying") makes it okay.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 16 2020, @04:40PM
Where do you see that? I have never voted for a republican or democrat in my life, and never will. So if you are reading that into my post it is your own projection.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 16 2020, @07:03PM
and nobody said it was ok, not even ron paul. why don't you pull your head out of your ass?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by FatPhil on Thursday January 16 2020, @10:35AM (6 children)
Generally consumer pressure should be enough to support their own privacy, but as we've seen this millennium, consumers are stupid fucks.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Thursday January 16 2020, @12:23PM
That's by definition. If they weren't stupid, they'd be users - in control of the stuff they use.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 16 2020, @09:58PM (4 children)
More than that. Ask them how they would feel if China, Russia, Iran, or whomever could force Apple to unlock any phone they wanted. If one country can do it, any country can do it.
(Score: 2) by fido_dogstoyevsky on Friday January 17 2020, @12:31AM (1 child)
About the same as if the US could do it. In fact, they're possibly less of a danger to me.
It's NOT a conspiracy... it's a plot.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 17 2020, @01:22AM
Perhaps my "them" wasn't obvious enough. The U.S. government through Barr, Trump, and others are the ones who keep asking for this in the media lately. The point I was trying to make is that I doubt they would appreciate the ability of China, Russia, or Iran to unlock any phone they wanted.
(Score: 2) by Spamalope on Friday January 17 2020, @02:42AM (1 child)
Why is everyone just uncritically accepting that they can't get into the phone anyway?
How about this;
US Intel agencies can own that phone. Surveillance targets keep acting as though they can't, and the intel agencies want to ride that train as far as it goes.
DOJ wants to be able to publicly talk/act about what's on the phone, but can't without revealing intel capabilities.
Apple isn't giving them cover. The DOJ thus far hasn't compelled them. We don't know the motives, or even that Apple hasn't been privately asked to refuse because protecting that intel source and creating PR convincing people the data is secure is the #1 mission.
So that's food for thought. It could be something like that and still look like just what we see. The information about what the actual truth is isn't publicly available.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 18 2020, @08:35AM
Very insightful. It's like when they illegally obtain information; and then, have to go about paving the legal path for said information, so they can use it. We are all owned, already, probably. What's going to bite everyone in the ass is when the definition of, 'terrorist', grows. It's grown significantly, and it will continue to grow; just like the definition of a witch or possessed person probably waxed and waned during the dark ages. People just aren't intelligent enough, or are actively benefiting from such a system, so as not to want to fight the status quo.
People seem to forget that who we consider heroes today, were people that were DEEPLY targeted by the FBI half a century ago. Martin Luther King Jr. had a huge file. People seemingly as benign as The Beatles were targeted.
Anywho, good point. I'm fairly certain you are spot-on.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 16 2020, @02:25PM (2 children)
Ironic that such an accusion is made by a man who's done everything to obstruct justice since he's been elected.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 16 2020, @02:50PM
Do you know the definition of Ironic? Or just listen to Alannis Morresette?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 16 2020, @02:54PM
Yes and when your favourite politican from some other party becomes president and does EXACTLY THE SAME THING, I hope you take it up the arse royally. and have a moment of illumination. I doubt it tho.
(Score: 2) by EEMac on Thursday January 16 2020, @03:31PM (2 children)
I'm about a 75% Trump supporter, but he's wrong on this one.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 16 2020, @04:15PM
To get 100% is unrealistic.
Presidents are expected to be mouthpieces for their constituents at times, be they industrial leaders or internal law enforcement and espionage interests. If a president feels strongly enough, he can choose to give his personal opinion, but doing that for everything will just be a giant time suck.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 16 2020, @07:10PM
wrong on bump stocks too.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 16 2020, @05:18PM
Just because Trump tweets something does not make it newsworthy nor should it be selection worthy here. Not even when it touching a tech topic.
Then again, I do not bother with listening to the wind.