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posted by on Sunday January 19 2020, @03:40PM   Printer-friendly
from the lingere dept.

Well, crap. I have no idea why or when it happened but the Threshold setting when using Threaded-TOS appears to be non-functional at the moment. It's supposed to set the value below which a comment and any of its subcomments will be collapsed, unless a subcomment is over the Breakthrough value which should cause that comment only to be expanded. Right now it's functioning as if Threshold were set to 6. I never noticed it because I have both settings set to -1.

I can't monkey with it right this second but I'll see if I can get it fixed some time this weekend. Just a hotfix patch to the live code not a full site update.

Beats doing construction work in the rain I suppose.

Update: Okay, I can't fix something that ain't broke and TOS is functioning as intended. I just forgot that Threshold applied only to top-level comments, all subcomment trees should be collapsed by default, and Breakthrough was the setting for subcomments to show up no matter what. This doesn't make sense to me but then I'm not the one who decided it should function like that and I don't use TOS. If you lot want it to function differently or want a new mode that's similar, drop your insipid inspired ideas here and if there's enough demand I'll put it on the todo list.

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  • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Saturday January 18 2020, @05:49PM (8 children)

    by RS3 (6367) on Saturday January 18 2020, @05:49PM (#945019)

    MS planted some kind of propagating poison pill intended only for their discontinuation of Windows 7 support after January 14 and it got loose.

    /s

    > Beats doing construction work in the rain I suppose.

    I'll give you that. Now I'm trying to decide which is worse: rain or the equivalent in snow...

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday January 18 2020, @06:32PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 18 2020, @06:32PM (#945030) Journal

      That's just metafuckingtastical I think!

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 18 2020, @08:19PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 18 2020, @08:19PM (#945072)

      Beats doing construction work in the rain I suppose.

      I'll give you that. Now I'm trying to decide which is worse: rain or the equivalent in snow...

      Why would either result in failure to achieve an erection?

    • (Score: 1) by szopin on Sunday January 19 2020, @03:15PM (2 children)

      by szopin (5710) on Sunday January 19 2020, @03:15PM (#945309) Homepage Journal

      >> Beats doing construction work in the rain I suppose.
      >
      >I'll give you that. Now I'm trying to decide which is worse: rain or the equivalent in snow...
      Snow every time, it makes the temperature go closer to 0 (not fahrenheit) and can be managed vs getting soaked with no recourse

      • (Score: 1) by szopin on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:19PM (1 child)

        by szopin (5710) on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:19PM (#945345) Homepage Journal

        Shit just noticed it looks like snow is worse, EDIT: snow is better, rain is worse

        • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Sunday January 19 2020, @11:11PM

          by RS3 (6367) on Sunday January 19 2020, @11:11PM (#945535)

          Yeah, I got what you meant. I think it depends on what you're doing. Some work requires precision finger dexterity, and my premise was that it's colder if snowing. I've done work in the rain with tools getting wet, but they survived. I've also done work in the snow, and somehow it melts on me and I end up wet either way, but the fingers are much colder. So yes, you make an excellent point, and I'll add it may depend on the kind of work.

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 20 2020, @02:43PM (1 child)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday January 20 2020, @02:43PM (#945836) Homepage Journal

      Thanks, jerk. Now it's snowing.

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      • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Monday January 20 2020, @03:28PM

        by RS3 (6367) on Monday January 20 2020, @03:28PM (#945847)

        Yeah, sorry. It was a fairly secret crowdsourcing experiment- we got everyone to turn on their heat, open all windows and doors, and the updraft sent the snow your way. Blame the tradewinds.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday January 20 2020, @03:38PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 20 2020, @03:38PM (#945849) Journal
      All they have to do is stop patching security holes. No need to self-destruct.
  • (Score: 2) by SomeGuy on Saturday January 18 2020, @06:35PM (5 children)

    by SomeGuy (5632) on Saturday January 18 2020, @06:35PM (#945032)

    Hmnm, at a glance, not quite sure if I see that issue, but it is very good that folks here are concerned about fixing things like that.

    Since we are talking about small bugs/issues, one suggestion - the topic search icons at the top of the site would be a tad more useful if they defaulted to showing new content first rather than old content. For example, if I click on the rehash icon currently at the top, seeing this story would be more useful and expected than seeing "Help Wanted: Implementing Inline Reply and Moderation On June 4th, 2015 with 79 comments". Of course, we can still search any way we want. As always, there could be some non-obvious reason it is the way it is.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 18 2020, @06:53PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 18 2020, @06:53PM (#945040)

      The default sort order for comments also is "by relevance", which never is. Better to just sort newer to older.

      • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 18 2020, @10:28PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 18 2020, @10:28PM (#945116)

        Can you make it sort by political orientation, so anything to liberal goes to the bottom where it belongs.

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @12:10AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @12:10AM (#945138)
          Right to your bottom, where you like it?
          • (Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:37PM

            by Gaaark (41) on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:37PM (#945357) Journal

            What...did Hillary order a pizza?
            ;)

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    • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Sunday January 19 2020, @07:48PM

      by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 19 2020, @07:48PM (#945437) Journal

      one suggestion - the topic search icons at the top of the site would be a tad more useful if they defaulted to showing new content first rather than old content.

      THIS, so much THIS.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 18 2020, @11:57PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 18 2020, @11:57PM (#945133)

    We'd rather you do the construction in the rain.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:04AM (8 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:04AM (#945189) Homepage Journal

      No worries, plenty of time for that later. I do live in TN after all. If it hasn't rained in the past three days here they declare it a drought.

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      • (Score: 1) by szopin on Sunday January 19 2020, @03:17PM (7 children)

        by szopin (5710) on Sunday January 19 2020, @03:17PM (#945310) Homepage Journal

        Do you really do construction work? Like with all the perl and all coding stuff, I mean... Really?

        • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday January 19 2020, @03:51PM (3 children)

          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 19 2020, @03:51PM (#945324) Journal

          Yep, Buzz is our resident developer. We have several who are part of the team but currently they are all unavailable because of real world priorities, and have been like that for quite a long time now.

          • (Score: 1) by szopin on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:12PM (2 children)

            by szopin (5710) on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:12PM (#945339) Homepage Journal

            The american way: hire construction worker to do our perl job

            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:27PM (1 child)

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:27PM (#945348) Homepage Journal

              I'm a code monkey by trade nowadays but I've done everything from construction, to HVAC, to plumbing, to convenience store clerk, to installing medical networks, to admining an ISP, to making oil well drill bits, to being a lot hand at a car lot, to being a Harley mechanic, to part-time admining multiple schools, to writing billing systems for games, to selling perfume and cologne door to door, to plenty of other things I can't remember off the top of my head. It's not hard to do that kind of thing if you can acquire competence in whatever skill set you need nearly as quick as you can decide you want to acquire it.

              Honestly, I prefer construction work to coding perl for Rehash though. Construction work don't leave you feeling like you have dirty gym socks for brains at the end of the work day. And you don't have to exercise to stay in shape if you're doing it regularly.

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              • (Score: 1) by szopin on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:39PM

                by szopin (5710) on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:39PM (#945360) Homepage Journal

                >Construction work don't leave you feeling like you have dirty gym socks for brains at the end of the work day.
                And this is why we NEED you, stay in shape bro

        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 19 2020, @03:55PM (2 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Sunday January 19 2020, @03:55PM (#945329) Homepage Journal

          Used to way back when for a living. Currently do because I'm remodeling a church to live in.

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          • (Score: 1) by szopin on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:21PM (1 child)

            by szopin (5710) on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:21PM (#945346) Homepage Journal

            >way back when for a living
            Really cool part about you, most commenters are california-born-raised and never experienced normal life, but will preach about it, kudos

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @05:12PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @05:12PM (#945379)

              To help California secede and we'll be happy to not live real lives isolated from you lot!

              #freecaliforniatoflop

              :-D

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @12:09AM (17 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @12:09AM (#945137)

    > I never noticed it because I have both settings set to -1.

    To TMB -- can you see how many soylentils browse at anything other than -1? My guess is very few. The only time I change the threshold is for stories with hundreds of comments.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @12:34AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @12:34AM (#945142)

      If you don't log in, default is 0/2.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @01:59AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @01:59AM (#945164)

        Correct, I'm logged in and defaulting to -1 (but have the AC box checked).

    • (Score: 2) by edIII on Sunday January 19 2020, @02:35AM (9 children)

      by edIII (791) on Sunday January 19 2020, @02:35AM (#945171)

      My default is 0. Although I quite often change it to -1 if it seems I'm missing mismoderated posts.

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      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @08:25AM (8 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @08:25AM (#945229)

        if I don't read at -1/-1 I feel like I'm missing something

        • (Score: 1) by szopin on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:29PM (7 children)

          by szopin (5710) on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:29PM (#945351) Homepage Journal

          Yeah, the opposing opinion, sadly SN is just like reddit a hivemind, even worse as if you want to keep your mod points you better behave or they will mod you out of the mod pool, on reddit you can keep posting no matter how many downvotes your comment got

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 19 2020, @09:13PM (6 children)

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Sunday January 19 2020, @09:13PM (#945465) Homepage Journal

            You can here too. Anyone who's been here a month or more and isn't mod-banned gets ten points a day unless they have "willing to moderate" unchecked in their settings, karma has nothing to do with it.

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            • (Score: 1) by szopin on Sunday January 19 2020, @09:20PM (5 children)

              by szopin (5710) on Sunday January 19 2020, @09:20PM (#945467) Homepage Journal

              Is it broken on firefox? I click this button and it just reloads the page with button at top, used to get a dropdown so assumed that's what broke it?

              • (Score: 3, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 19 2020, @09:43PM (4 children)

                by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Sunday January 19 2020, @09:43PM (#945481) Homepage Journal

                No, works fine in Firefox. It redirects you to the page you just left, to an anchor at the comment with the highest cid that you moderated. You don't get a message, just returned to where you left off with your shiny, new moderation applied to the comment.

                PSA: You can select several moderations on the same page and just click any Moderate button to moderate them all at once.

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                • (Score: 1) by szopin on Sunday January 19 2020, @09:49PM

                  by szopin (5710) on Sunday January 19 2020, @09:49PM (#945484) Homepage Journal

                  Doesn't work for me, I really thought it was because I dropped under 10 karma, it just brings the 'moderate' button to the top of the page and that's it

                • (Score: 1) by szopin on Sunday January 19 2020, @10:58PM (2 children)

                  by szopin (5710) on Sunday January 19 2020, @10:58PM (#945519) Homepage Journal

                  Ok, forget it, I'm retarded

                  • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Monday January 20 2020, @02:50AM (1 child)

                    by MostCynical (2589) on Monday January 20 2020, @02:50AM (#945622) Journal

                    I'm retarded

                    And here you are, fitting right in..

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                    • (Score: 1) by szopin on Monday January 20 2020, @03:27AM

                      by szopin (5710) on Monday January 20 2020, @03:27AM (#945640) Homepage Journal

                      Omg, you have an issue admitting it? We have a live one guys!!!

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:01AM (3 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:01AM (#945186) Homepage Journal

      A slight plurality browse at 0 Threshold with -1 being barely behind it and about ten percent or so using all the other numbers combined. Not sure how many use TOS vs. TNG though.

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    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by deimtee on Sunday January 19 2020, @08:41AM

      by deimtee (3272) on Sunday January 19 2020, @08:41AM (#945234) Journal

      I have a complicated preference set where everything except spam gets a +1 boost, then I set the level at zero. Still see everything except comments modded spam.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by szopin on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:27PM

    by szopin (5710) on Sunday January 19 2020, @04:27PM (#945349) Homepage Journal

    >Okay, I can't fix something that ain't broke
    Did you try switching it off and on again?

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