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posted by martyb on Sunday January 26 2020, @09:05AM   Printer-friendly
from the water-is-wet dept.

In Serving Big Company Interests, Copyright Is in Crisis:

We're taking part in Copyright Week, a series of actions and discussions supporting key principles that should guide copyright policy. Every day this week, various groups are taking on different elements of copyright law and policy, addressing what's at stake and what we need to do to make sure that copyright promotes creativity and innovation.

Copyright rules are made with the needs of the entertainment industry in mind, designed to provide the legal framework for creators, investors, distributors, production houses, and other parts of the industry to navigate their disputes and assert their interests.

A good copyright policy would be one that encouraged diverse forms of expression from diverse creators who were fairly compensated for their role in a profitable industry. But copyright has signally failed to accomplish this end, largely because of the role it plays in the monopolization of the entertainment industry (and, in the digital era, every industry where copyrighted software plays a role). Copyright's primary approach is to give creators monopolies over their works, in the hopes that they can use these as leverage in overmatched battles with corporate interests. But monopolies have a tendency to accumulate, piling up in the vaults of big companies, who use these government-backed exclusive rights to dominate the industry so that anyone hoping to enter it must first surrender their little monopolies to the hoards of the big gatekeepers.

Creators get a raw deal in a concentrated marketplace, selling their work into a buyer's market. Giving them more monopolies – longer copyright terms, copyright over the "feel" of music, copyright over samples – just gives the industry more monopolies to confiscate in one-sided negotiations and add to their arsenals. Expecting more copyright to help artists beat a concentrated industry is like expecting more lunch money to help your kid defeat the bullies who beat him up on the playground every day. No matter how much lunch money you give that kid, all you'll ever do is make the bullies richer.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @10:24AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @10:24AM (#948813)

    A good copyright policy would be one that encouraged diverse forms of expression from diverse creators who were fairly compensated for their role in a profitable industry.

    A good copyright policy should be designed to enhance the public domain, and nothing else. I strongly disagree that it should be designed to generate money, except to the extent that offering money can enhance the public domain by motivating creativity.

    "My business model depends on it" is not a good reason for a law.

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Bot on Sunday January 26 2020, @11:00AM (1 child)

      by Bot (3902) on Sunday January 26 2020, @11:00AM (#948816) Journal

      Yes it's a slippery slope.
      It's like claiming water from a well damages the industry of bottled water. When actually the likeliest thing to happen is big finance hurting as much as possible free and clean water to sell more refined one.

      Copyright is about control of expression, with payment to the creator as a side effect. A honest world could do better with copyright laws, while in this world it is an instrument for the actual pirates against the hobby pirates.

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      • (Score: 2) by Fluffeh on Tuesday January 28 2020, @08:44PM

        by Fluffeh (954) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 28 2020, @08:44PM (#950216) Journal

        But... but... but... it's got electrolytes!

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by bzipitidoo on Sunday January 26 2020, @01:01PM (16 children)

    by bzipitidoo (4388) on Sunday January 26 2020, @01:01PM (#948831) Journal

    1. Emo about copyright.

    Authors and artists are among the biggest opponents of proposed changes that reduce the power of copyright. I've talked with enough wanna-be authors to see that. It was unanimous. They really believe copyright is their life blood. Won't consider any other system. I tried asking on a forum for writers, and the sort of response I got was revealing: "we don't encourage piracy." I wasn't trying to encourage it, I was trying to talk about it, but they all acted as if merely talking about it was encouraging it. They pointed to their policy that states those who encourage piracy will be kicked out. Oh well, opinion collected.

    I used to think successful authors were a cut above, smarter than the average bear. Surely none of them could be so dense, so blind, as to themselves commit one of the staple crimes often written about, the shooting of the messenger. Burn the bearer of bad news at the stake! You might think at the least authors of SF might get it. Nope! Not even them. We have these crazy SF settings in which science and technology are so advanced we can travel faster than light, colonizing planets in other solar systems is no big deal, money has been radically changed, but somehow copyright is still the same as it was in the late 20th century. Makes for some painfully stupid and jarring SF in places. Among the stupidest is the magic transporter/teleportation device. Copying being so forbidden, shoved waay in the back of authors' minds by self-censorship, the logical difficulty that most hypothetical devices which can transport people could more easily just clone people is simply ignored, and we all just sort of play along and act oblivious to that.

    That brings me to one of the worst problems with copyright. It pushes several of our emotional buttons. We like to think we're all unique. Individuality is one of the traits we supposedly possess that we cherish the most. SF "teleporation" schemes have to erase the original, make the original die, to preserve that so cherished individuality. Make new copy at target location, kill original. Copyright is in a way, one legal manifestation of that desire.

    Another emotional button all too easily pushed is fear of loss. It is way too easy for interested parties to tar copying as no different than stealing. Scream that copiers are evil pirates no better than common thieves, and that the file sharing and the enabling tech, bittorrent and the Internet itself, are monstrous. And of course, cry that artists will all starve, and we shall have no more art. Just a teensy bit over the top, wouldn't you agree? The ones pushing this narrative the hardest are masters of emotional manipulation, having built their entire business around drama and anything else that sells more movie tickets, records, and books. They feel so strongly about it all that they even performed several legal lynchings of ordinary citizens, in part to inspire fear, and still think they were totally justified in doing so, fighting the good fight, trying to keep that copying genie from oozing any further out of the bottle. They resorted to lying and slandering and other dirty moves, targeting for legal action those least able to defend themselves, feeling that the end goal of maintaining copyright against all threats was so desirable that almost any means was justified. They try to turn others into copyright police. A grandkid downloads a song, and they want to hold grandma responsible and hang her from the neck until dead, because she didn't police the kid enough. Ah well, those who would "shoot the messenger" certainly would also commit "the end justifies the means".

    A closely related issue is plagiarism. Now that really is stealing. However copyright extremists have too often gotten away with conflating copying and plagiarism, and have succeeded at suggesting that to allow copying is to remove all defense against plagiarism. It need not be so.

    All this emotional baggage is yet another reason why I think copyright needs to step down in favor of something better.

    2. What can replace copyright?

    In a word, crowdfunding. Patronage. Patronage has worked for centuries. Today, we can do it a lot better. Lovers of art should focus their efforts on building better systems, making crowdfunding better, not defending a bad and broken one.

    It is really funny sad odd how ardent defenders of copyright like to act as if nothing better than holy copyright can possibly exist or work. Crowdfunding? Copyleft? That's -- that's --- Communism! Treason! Artists starving to death! Artists' children, homeless, wandering the streets, begging for scraps of food! (Come on, shed a tear here for that tearjerker.) It's all just an excuse for taking! And, IT WON'T WORK! In defiance of all evidence that crowdfunding does work, they continue to insist it doesn't.

    3. copyright is evil

    There's more, much more. Yet another problem with copyright is that it's monopolistic. Monopolies are bad. We;ve seen that time and time again.

    Education is copying! At a most fundamental level, the passing on of knowledge to our children is a massive copying of everything important we've spent millennia learning and discovering, so that they cab build on top, rather than having to start from scratch.

    Copying is a natural right. And now, thanks to technological advancement, copying at last belongs to the masses. The Gutenberg Press has been rated the #1 influential invention of the past millennium. The Internet and data storage tech is bigger. No amount of law making is going to put this genie back in the bottle, and it is folly and cruel woe to try. How many more of our children have to die, because knowledge was hoarded and buried?

    Also consider how much effort has been wasted on DRM. Why do so many persist in thinking that maybe, DRM can somehow work. Steam is DRM done right? WTF??

    Copyright really has warped our thinking.

    • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @02:12PM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @02:12PM (#948842)

      A work of art is a natural monopoly when there is only one original. Monopolies are not inherently bad, nobody is harmed by you painting a mural on your bedroom ceiling anymore than we are harmed by only having one Sistine Chapel.

      Copying is a natural right.

      No it isn't. Copying somebody else's manuscript and claiming it as your own is fraudulent, a bad faith act of intellectual theft - cheating. If you'd said mimicry, fine, apes do it. This is also why the "feel" lawsuit in TFA is utter bullshit.

      • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @02:38PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @02:38PM (#948850)

        bzipboo didn't say anything about copying someone's manuscript and claiming it as his own, aka plagiarism.

        I will download every book, movie, science article, etc. ever made without paying. The low technological barriers to copying and storage makes it more likely that these will exist 1000 years from now.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @05:48PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @05:48PM (#948929)

          bzipboo didn't say anything about copying someone's manuscript and claiming it as his own, aka plagiarism.

          You accept that it is fraud but not that unauthorized reproduction and distribution of a work is also fraud?

          • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @09:10PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @09:10PM (#948999)

            it's only fraud if you are misrepresenting someone's work as your own. wtf does that have to do with copying someone's work to use for yourself? are you fucking retarded?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @09:17PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @09:17PM (#949005)

            I don't accept your sperging. I just commit the crime of copying information for my own use.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @04:58PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @04:58PM (#948910)

        nobody is harmed by you painting a mural on your bedroom ceiling anymore than we are harmed by only having one Sistine Chapel.

        There's another in Goring-by-Sea [english-martyrs.co.uk]

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by JoeMerchant on Sunday January 26 2020, @02:57PM

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday January 26 2020, @02:57PM (#948862)

      How many more of our children have to die, because knowledge was hoarded and buried?

      More timely: how many unwanted children have to be born and suffer, because knowledge was hoarded and buried?

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    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Sunday January 26 2020, @03:12PM (2 children)

      by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Sunday January 26 2020, @03:12PM (#948872) Journal

      I live by what you are describing here, I write and meme expecting, planning, hoping, I will be copied and shared, and in so doing I advertise and incorporate the work of hundreds if not thousands of other people.

      Consider my latest,
      https://archive.is/Ljm4X [archive.is]
      https://archive.is/9T2tC [archive.is]

      These are old movies, could I be prosecuted for screenshotting them? Should I be? I am not selling them, I am just posting them. And then relying on patronage.

      Guess what though, patronage works through cultural hegemony. The people with money got that money by obeying the cultural hegemony, they do not know anything *even exists* outside of their cultural hegemony. There is a giant dialectic here, with one side still watching mass media cnn/fox and using fb/twitter, and then the people who have had to go elsewhere. And the people within that bubble, that delusional highly manipulated, sadly fanatically zionist, bubble, have this superhuge advantage.

      Did you know psychoĺogists are telling people that marxism was the cause of all of the problems of the 20th century? True story, the guy makes 10k a month on patreon and he already has money, so what is that even? Patreon is not for rich professors who get their books published on a whim, that is not how that is supposed to work. Anyway.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzXXjiwlxmU [youtube.com]

      The people outside that window are in chaos, scattered in all directions, deplatformed, cancelled, and their work, my work, is not being seen by potential patrons.
      https://archive.is/5b8cm [archive.is]

      Consider the danger I have to deal with just to make this objectively hilarious series based on one of my favorite movie scenes of all time, and mashed up wth salvadore dali and the russian vr cow:
      https://archive.is/YYbVG [archive.is] blank
      https://archive.is/dzr5o [archive.is] meta
      https://archive.is/ULMpO [archive.is] dali
      https://archive.is/L7LfU [archive.is] cow vr

      Just consider how many 7-degrees of people I connect with just what I have posted in this one comment, how many peoples' work went into this, stagehands, people who host seedboxes, Julia Roberts, the russian cow photographer, Salvador Dali, and then I just give you the blank one to make your own frameup.

      Maybe I am tooting my own horn here, but I am saying that after a year of doing this and more, not a single patron have I found. We are in agreement on how this is supposed to work, but how are anti-intellectual crypto-capitalist disinfo stooges who are already rich succeeding on the internet better than I am? And I am not looking for fame or wealth, I just want to get by so I can do my work. And the systems available *to me* simply do not work, have never worked, and I tried all the others before trying this one.

      So I paid around 300 bucks on hosting and spent around 400 hours writing and crafting original content, and at the end of the day I get told I am the one who is privileged? That I am not working hard enough, to attract a single contribution? That I have to work through the major, centralized, censored, channels, operated by my clear ideological opponents, otherwise I can't be a writer or artist of any kind?

      Something is rotten in denmark, that is not how any of this is supposed to work. And I spent a lot of time thinking about it this year, and I came to a diagnosis. We are dealing with a real totalitarian system, and it is designed to exclude people who aren't with the program. Who question their copyright system, like you are doing. And then that trickles down. Those authors who told you they love copyright, they have agents, and those agents love copyright, and those agents won't work with anyone who doesn't, and those writers are afraid to lose their agents. Real fear, real self-censorship, real ideological conformity prior to consideration.

      So I made this to explain it, if you are not on the left hand side of this img, the left hand side knows that(and flip it in the mirror if you want right/left is arbitrarary here), and that is what we are dealing with on a primal level, beneath the copyright, ethos .org, or even trump impeachment debate.

      https://archive.is/ws6XQ [archive.is]

      If you cannot deal with this dialectic, you will just be swept up in it until all you believe is lies, and you are afraid to say a single word to question them.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by bzipitidoo on Sunday January 26 2020, @08:02PM (1 child)

        by bzipitidoo (4388) on Sunday January 26 2020, @08:02PM (#948975) Journal

        > not a single patron have I found.

        How good is your work, really? Have you asked for constructive criticism on it? Any beta-readers seen it? The first quick look I took, I found the text impossibly small and reduced. Couldn't read it on archive.is. Persisting, I reached coinsh.red, where, while still small, and mangled somewhat by JPEG compression artifacts, I could at least read it.

        I find interesting the proposal of 13 months of 28 days each. Did you know that during the French Revolution, there was a proposal for Metric Time? 10 hours per day, along with other decimal divisions. Thing is, people hate changing what they have. It's far easier to build something new than to change an existing thing. Maybe work out something for Mars and Earth when (if?) a colony is ever established, then import it back to Earth when accepted. Uh, what day of the week is New Years? None at all, it seems. That breaks the heck out of the 7 day week.

        The other material, I don't know. The impression I got is that it's a lot of unsupported assertions. Will take more study to understand it all.

        • (Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Monday January 27 2020, @02:17PM

          by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Monday January 27 2020, @02:17PM (#949310) Journal

          right click and save.

          magnifiy in the viewer.

          I have to do this with all of the most famous and informative memes I scraped from diverse places.

          It comes with the terrirory, it is part of it, no one is going to hold your hand, you have to think.

          The most common shill response to my work is nitpicking like this, you will notice it in response to my comments if you look.

          Every website, you can change the text size and color, that is all your choice, not my imposition.

          If you want someone to babysit you, there are other websites for that.

          And yes, you should read and investigate. The calendar is the least important idea discussed in any of the memes, but it is a good one.

          Another common shill method is, 'oh non one will ever change, people are so blah' etc etc. Azumi H. says that all the time.

          No point in doing anything, everything is already the way it is, and people are such slugs, no point in doing anything, rinse repeat.

          But anyone in that boat is just on the side of tyranny and worse at this point.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by mcgrew on Sunday January 26 2020, @05:45PM (4 children)

      by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Sunday January 26 2020, @05:45PM (#948926) Homepage Journal

      Authors and artists are among the biggest opponents of proposed changes that reduce the power of copyright.

      There's no reason to reduce its power, mut many reasons to reduce its ridiculous length. No copyright should outlive its creator, and I'd be more than happy to see the Bono Act repealed. But I don't want Random House to be able to sell any of my books without my permission. Give them away? Sure, as long as they're not making money doing it. Note that I only charge for printed books; my eBooks are free.

      There's more, much more. Yet another problem with copyright is that it's monopolistic. Monopolies are bad.

      How about your local water and sewer? That monopoly is completely necessary, as necessary as a limited time monopoly for creative works. That said, those of us who write, paint, play music, do it because we have to. It's a compulsion.

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      • (Score: 2) by loonycyborg on Monday January 27 2020, @09:14AM (3 children)

        by loonycyborg (6905) on Monday January 27 2020, @09:14AM (#949237)

        How about your local water and sewer? That monopoly is completely necessary, as necessary as a limited time monopoly for creative works. That said, those of us who write, paint, play music, do it because we have to. It's a compulsion.

        Something that is naturally necessary will not be enforced by law, because such laws are just empty waste of paper. Copyright is most definitely not considered necessary by most people. Authors who think they need copyright to create something are an archetypal example of vocal minority. But copyright harms authors too by giving too much power to marketing and making actual authors interchangeable for purpose of actually making money. Since they just need baseline level of creative skill to be marketable. Industry can market limited number of authors(because of nature of monopoly it becomes small number of gatekeepers with limited resources each) to large audiences and those who won't be will get nearly nothing. This makes it so authors are likely chosen mostly based on loyalty and popularity gained via means unrelated to their artistic prowess. And particularly hard artistic endeavors also tend to be niche and thus bring little money under this system making patronage only option for them. So copyright is like smoking. You think you need it but actually it's bad for you.

        • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Monday January 27 2020, @04:29PM (2 children)

          by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Monday January 27 2020, @04:29PM (#949382) Homepage Journal

          Authors who think they need copyright to create something are an archetypal example of vocal minority.

          You seem to misunderstand copyright. Copyright is to keep Random House, who has tons of cash for marketing, from making tons more cash selling books that I wrote without paying me; I don't have their marketing capital. But I should NOT have a monopoly on my books for the rest of my life, the twenty years they were protected in the 20th century and earlier is plenty long. For computer programs that's way too long, the hardware becomes obsolete before the software reaches the public domain.

          Copyright needs reform, but a lot of you want to throw the baby out with the bath water.

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          mcgrewbooks.com mcgrew.info nooze.org
          • (Score: 2) by loonycyborg on Monday January 27 2020, @05:19PM

            by loonycyborg (6905) on Monday January 27 2020, @05:19PM (#949403)

            Why would you want to be paid for every reprint of your work? You do not expend any effort for copies that you don't make yourself. This whole idea of getting paid per work copied is nonsense that leads to perverse incentives. Only actual effort put into making the creative work is really valuable but it's not directly related to number of works copied. Most definitely it doesn't scale linearly with number of copies.

          • (Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Friday January 31 2020, @07:34PM

            by bzipitidoo (4388) on Friday January 31 2020, @07:34PM (#951912) Journal

            > Copyright is to keep Random House ... from making tons more cash selling books that I wrote without paying me

            Firstly, the whole system of charging per copy has to eventually give way to reality. The only reason it works now is through inertia, a certain degree of convenience that publishers are at last providing through tablets, and most of all, the mercy and benevolence of the public who really do feel that artists deserve compensation for creating entertaining and/or thought provoking works, and that buying a copy is a good way to do that. Also, there persists belief that publishers do an adequate job of screening out bad art.

            As to big publishers screwing over individual authors, yes, that is a problem. But copyright is very much itself a "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" solution that just blanket forbids all copying to everyone that artists don't approve, and there is little mechanism for artists to engage in discriminating in favor of the kinds of copying they might actually want to allow. It's default "no", and again, in large part it's an emo thing. Allow any copying at all, weaken the monopoly just a little, and artists might lose money and their children will go hungry!!! That even obvious fair use cases can still be challenged in court is absurd.

            This problem can be resolved by growing other, far more permissive systems for collecting, figuring, and delivering compensation to artists and contributors such as editors. No more "mother may I?" for every little thing. Then we would be a whole lot freer to use our culture. Public libraries could at last go fully digital. Maybe copyright should be retained, perhaps in a weaker form, until these other systems are established. But on the other hand, where's the incentive to get busy on replacements, if there's no push to end copyright? I'd like to see copyright sunsetted. For instance, have all existing and new copyrights granted in the future terminate on Feb 1, 2048, 28 years from today. Artists obtaining copyrights in 2030 will have only 18 years of copyright protection. By 2047, with just 1 year left, artists likely wouldn't bother.

            Those who think copyright, if it worked, is best at maximizing artists' profits, should consider that public libraries loan out books to far more people than they have copies. Not one cent of used book store sales goes to authors, or publishers. And of course, friends can give books, records, and flash drives to one another. Of course there is also the Economics 101 argument about demand curves. There's a great deal of art I would have enjoyed had it not been out of my reach for a variety of reasons. We are Cord Nevers. Our town did not have a movie theater, just a Blockbusters. Didn't go there much anyway. My parents felt that movies and the TV were basically a waste of time. I saw few movies, and never any shows that appeared only on cable TV, and I often didn't know to what my friends were alluding.

    • (Score: 2) by loonycyborg on Monday January 27 2020, @08:54AM

      by loonycyborg (6905) on Monday January 27 2020, @08:54AM (#949235)

      That brings me to one of the worst problems with copyright. It pushes several of our emotional buttons. We like to think we're all unique. Individuality is one of the traits we supposedly possess that we cherish the most. SF "teleporation" schemes have to erase the original, make the original die, to preserve that so cherished individuality. Make new copy at target location, kill original. Copyright is in a way, one legal manifestation of that desire.

      Eclipse Phase [wikipedia.org] actually has copying yourself without destroying the original as distinct possibility that occurs often and as a plot point. Also, entire thing is distributed under CC license.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @02:25PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @02:25PM (#948846)

    How about a rule that says it is illegal to crack DRM until it quits working,

    Then a reasonalbe, short notice that it's not working to the providers, then a short time for them to fix it, then cracking it to allow you already paid for access is permanently ok.

    Or at least a rule that says when the provider shuts down the server, cracking is fair and expected for those who have bought a copy.

    I won't hold my breath, but the library of Congress already has the authority to do this?

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Sunday January 26 2020, @02:52PM (2 children)

      by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Sunday January 26 2020, @02:52PM (#948859) Journal

      Nice, we can expect all of the companies going bankrupt to contact everyone in the world to update us on the details of the situation of their region locked dvd.

      If we redirected the entire DEA to this enforcement effort, I think we could pull it off and it would be a win for everybody.

      And in that case when they busted into somebody's house at 6am to enforce the global notification of the now legal cracking freeforall on thomas the train goes to calcutta(2002) and there was an accidental discharge, at least the person dying would be expendable because all they do is collect royalties on the work of others.

      j/k I don't believe anyone is expendable, but if there were copyright campers would be near the very top of the list

      • (Score: 5, Informative) by mcgrew on Sunday January 26 2020, @05:47PM (1 child)

        by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Sunday January 26 2020, @05:47PM (#948928) Homepage Journal

        How about we just outlaw the scam called DRM? It can't work, so is a scam and those selling it should be ashamed of themselves.

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        mcgrewbooks.com mcgrew.info nooze.org
        • (Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Monday January 27 2020, @02:24PM

          by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Monday January 27 2020, @02:24PM (#949319) Journal

          I think at the moment we are somewhat distanced from the reigns of legislation...this leads to reinforcing problem of only the misguided reactionaries are allowed to create art.

          How many good movies and shows came out in 2019 from American culture? Hardly any. Slim pickings this year for non-propaganda, worse year of cinema yet. I dare someone to argue the opposite case, that somehow the movies of 2019 were the apex of culture of something.

          Even if we can't change the law though,

          An unjust law is no law at all - MLK

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by barbara hudson on Sunday January 26 2020, @02:49PM (13 children)

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Sunday January 26 2020, @02:49PM (#948854) Journal

    Use it or lose it - and that includes registering your copyrights.

    Copyright that isn't registered is like a gun with no bullets. Someone removes your copyright notice on your code and puts theirs, even if you go to court you will only get provable damages - and if you published it under any sort of permissible license such as the gpl, you didn't lose any money, so you get nothing except a big legal bill.

    Registered works don't have to prove financial damages - you can claim up to $150k per infringement, same as the big boys. Odds are you get an out of court settlement.

    There is NO downside to doing this.

    The EFF agenda is that all software should be free. We've seen where this ends up, with the current situation where small developers can't earn a living selling their work because the market is awash with free shitty products.

    Anyone who says that the gpl encourages innovation is full of shit. It hasn't. 1,000 free Linux distros, all with their own quality bugs, is not innovation. Everyone has to distro hop as each distro goes through the same life cycle - people get interested, it attracts users, fails to reach critical mass, goes off on some tangent to "be different " and turns to dust as people look for the new next better one.

    Free software means that the only way to monetize stuff is to lock it up on a server and turn it into software as a spy service. To continue doing this, end user software needs to stay of inferior quality, so that it can't compete. 20 years ago the talk was about every person running multiple agents on their computers that would communicate directly with other users computers to search for information. That would put google out of business. Software agents that would form self-organizing groups with others around your shared interests. That would put Facebook out of business. That would connect buyers and sellers directly, putting Amazon out of business.

    So we've wasted two decades doing the wrong thing; any organization that supports free software even indirectly is a "useful stooge " , whether it's the EFF, the FSF, or whatever. We've seen how it's played out - we have the same big players as 30 years ago still selling THEIR software for a profit IBM, Microsoft, and Apple. The free software system is financially simply not viable. That's why you're seeing projects closing off their source to survive.

    It's like War Games - the only winning move is not to play. People still buy games, so obviously if you have a product people want, they will give you their money. But the market has spoken - give somebody a computer running Linux and a week later they're running Windows. They want their multifunction printers to be able to scan, their sound chips to work, their video cards to run at the performance levels they paid for. When you can't even give your product away, maybe it's time to examine the process that led to this?

    Paid closed source products can afford to do the development and improvements that aren't being done in or by the free community. That's the beginning and the end of the story.

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    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Sunday January 26 2020, @02:55PM (7 children)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday January 26 2020, @02:55PM (#948860)

      give somebody a computer running Linux and a week later they're running Windows

      That depends almost entirely upon the person and environment they are in. If there is only one computer, yes, it runs Windoze because there are certain things that only Windoze does, and being locked out sucks.

      What I have found is: if you have two computers (or can manage to teach someone how to dual boot) - you can easily run non-Windoze 97+% of the time.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @03:48PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @03:48PM (#948890)

        I never found Windoze to be indispensable to my computing.

      • (Score: 1, Troll) by barbara hudson on Sunday January 26 2020, @05:22PM (3 children)

        by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Sunday January 26 2020, @05:22PM (#948918) Journal
        That works fine for people who spend 97% of their time on Facebook. Business wants real work getting done. And everyone has at least one piece of software that won't run on Linux. And given the stagnation of free software these days because of the lack of a real financial model (hey, how's Parrot going? What - I'm still stuck with Perl 5? Great - all my oreilly books from the turn of the century are still useful) it's not ever going to get better.

        Just look at the new Linux-only games. Oh, they're the old Linux-only games, development stopped, and just as crap today as when they came out ... oh well, maybe you can find a 15-years-old game that runs under Wine, because even a 15-years-old Windows game is better than a new Linux-exclusive game.

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        • (Score: 5, Informative) by mcgrew on Sunday January 26 2020, @05:52PM (1 child)

          by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Sunday January 26 2020, @05:52PM (#948932) Homepage Journal

          Business wants real work getting done.

          The Ernie Ball company does just fine without Microsoft. [cnet.com] They make the world's finest guitar strings; ask any guitar player. I like the Super Slinkys.

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          • (Score: 3, Interesting) by fido_dogstoyevsky on Sunday January 26 2020, @10:03PM

            by fido_dogstoyevsky (131) <axehandleNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday January 26 2020, @10:03PM (#949020)

            The Ernie Ball company does just fine without Microsoft. [cnet.com] They make the world's finest guitar strings; ask any guitar player. I like the Super Slinkys.

            What Ernie Ball went through was the prime driver for me making my business computing GPL only.

            Although, if I wasn't now retired, I would also be seriously looking at BSD.

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        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Sunday January 26 2020, @08:01PM

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday January 26 2020, @08:01PM (#948973)

          Business wants real work getting done.

          Which is why my real work gets done in Linux.

          My bullshit training, outlook e-mail, and interfacing to the document control system - yeah, that crap happens in Windoze, not because Windoze does anything better, or cheaper, but because our IT drones can't be bothered to guarantee anything works in more than one version of one browser. Amusingly enough, our Colorado location's doc control center (because IT can't be bothered to merge the two systems, even here 20 years after we've been working together) has a system that's "certified in Edge" but actually works better in Firefox - whether on Linux or 'doze.

          15 years of trying to get audio to stream seamlessly from an 8 channel acquisition system, through custom processing algorithms into the Windoze sound system has resulted in 99.9% success - meaning, 0.1% of the time, or about 5 seconds out of every hour of surgery, the audio glitches for some reason or another. Then we can talk about the thrill of constant mandatory security updates. Meanwhile, the other side of the business used to use a dedicated DSP to get smooth real-time audio, but we just re-implemented in Linux and so far have not had any glitching at all - first try - oh, and the DSP C code re-compiled and deployed under Raspbian on a Pi, and also under Ubuntu on an Intel chip with virtually zero porting effort.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @08:33PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @08:33PM (#948990)

        runs Windoze because there are certain things that only Windoze does

        Crash? BSOD? Spy on you? Steal telemetry? Attempt to keep you from meeting new people? Not letting you out of the garden? Requiring that you wear silly outfits during sex?

        This sounds like an abusive relationship, not an operating system!

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday January 26 2020, @04:09PM (2 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 26 2020, @04:09PM (#948903) Journal

      Paid closed source products can afford to do the development and improvements that aren't being done in or by the free community.

      "Can afford" doesn't mean "will do". Instead, they often don't do the development and improvements either because they're just as disinterested in them as the free community is. It's ridiculous how much you're talking up closed source products when they don't even show the advantages you claim they have.

      • (Score: 1, Troll) by barbara hudson on Sunday January 26 2020, @05:09PM (1 child)

        by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Sunday January 26 2020, @05:09PM (#948914) Journal
        You seem to have fallen into the same trap all free software fans do - people don't give two shits about the operating system.They buy computers to run software, not operating systems. There's actual competition in many areas of proprietary software. You can buy a variety of development tools, each updated on a regular basis with new releases. Example: CorelDRAW 2019. Don't tell me the GIMP or whatever they call it now is an adequate replacement. Adobe keeps updating their software as well. But you have to pay to play. The fact is people do because the free alternatives are not worth it. And because there's no money in developing for a market that thinks all software should be free, it will never happen.

        Like I said, give someone a Linux computer, they'll run Linux for a week. Then wipe it because the free software is not competitive, and they can't run their software that they already bought and have time invested in.

        This has been the problem for decades. With fragmentation continuing to roll along it will never be fixed.

        When people buy a printer they want it to work. I bought a colour laser that said right on the box that it worked with Linux. It didn't. It required a specific version of RedHat and the driver disk only worked with that version, so can't upgrade. Everyone has stories like that.

        The point is still true - most free software is massively uncompetitive, will never be competitive because paid software has the money to keep improving, so Linux is a dead end for users. Cheaper to buy a Mac and pay the Apple hardware tax because at least you can get your work done. Even running WinXP In a VM is a step up in terms of software availability compared to the latest Linux. Too many forks means too many cooks and the soup doesn't get more than half-assed made.

        If shuttleworth har any brains he would have done like Apple, forked FreeBSD and made a proprietary OS. It would have still run free software, but also proprietary without the gnu crew bitching.

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        • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday January 26 2020, @08:11PM

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday January 26 2020, @08:11PM (#948977)

          people do because the free alternatives are not worth it.

          Depends entirely on the use profile. In the '90s I had a pirated CD of Photoshop that I would load up about once every 6 months when I needed to edit an image for some reason or another. These days I have GIMP, which sooner or later gets installed on just about every machine I use because sooner or later I need an image editor of some level of competence. I don't edit images every day, it's not my primary job, but when I do need to edit an image loading GIMP and just doing it is a hell of a lot more efficient than engaging an image editing professional, communicating my needs, getting the job queued while they work on higher priority tasks, iterating with them because communication is imperfect, etc. No way in hell is a multi-hundred dollar piece of licensed software superior for my needs, ever - just the time spent screwing with license updates would double my workload as compared to google searching for GIMP and doing the download-install one-time on every machine I work on.

          Now, if you are a pixel jockey, sure, Photoshop et. al. are optimized for your needs, they listen to the people in industry who pay for their wares and improve things like workflow automation, etc. to make their lives easier. Hell, I even knew a shareware photo editor back in the late '90s who did the same thing for his niche market - doing things that other software doesn't do to make his niche users' lives easier was earning him $80 per copy for a couple of hundred thousand dollars worth, until his market dwindled because he didn't have a machine like Adobe promoting it.

          $800 per copy for Photoshop when your workstation is generating $100K+ per year income - no brainer, even a 1% increase in productivity is worth it. When you're just an occasional user, it's completely fucking insane to even deal with the licensing busywork, nevermind the money.

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    • (Score: 4, Informative) by bzipitidoo on Sunday January 26 2020, @06:23PM (1 child)

      by bzipitidoo (4388) on Sunday January 26 2020, @06:23PM (#948944) Journal

      Step away from the Desktop and look in the Server Room. Linux is king.

      IBM doesn't much sell software anymore, certainly not to end users. OS/2 is long dead. AIX couldn't beat Linux, and has instead joined it. Yes, IBM is now a big contributor to Linux. IBM's whole strategy these days is selling massive hardware capability to enable their customers to grind through more Big Data than the competition can. They need a decent OS to support this program, and they've turned to Linux to be that OS. Even the massive resources that IBM still commands was not enough to stand apart and maintain an edge over Linux. They make their money selling hardware and service.

      The only reasons I have any need at all for Microsoft is 1) Office file format lock in, and 2) games. I wouldn't need MS Office, if the rest of the world would free themselves from it. It's only so that the recipients of office documents can read them in MS Office that I use MS Office formats at all. The other issue, games, yes. A big part of the problem there is Nvidious and ATI/AMD refusing to cooperate with the open source community, so that we can have decent open source graphics drivers.

      MS has always tested the waters to see how much lockdown they can get away with. You can't trust them not to screw things up with a fake security patch or change that is actually some crazy anti-piracy effort. They've been sleazy about it, and only a little shy about the sleaze. Windows 2000 did not have product activation. They added that in Windows XP, and the public didn't object strenuously enough to make them back away. Windows Vista, however, was too far, and they did back away from the dumbest things they tried. People are not willing to accept huge hits to performance so that their computer can constantly scan for pirated items. I particularly enjoyed the idiocy in creating a totally unnecessary chicken-and-egg problem when, around that same time, they decided to block access to security patches to all except registered copies of Windows. Unpatched Windows could not connect to the Internet long enough to register and patch before malware pwned it, and users could no longer download patches through other means, and apply them before connecting. That lasted about a month before MS backed away.

      Any time any government anywhere tries to switch to open source, MS is all over it. They bribe, corrupt, threaten and scare people into coming back to the fold. FUD. It's not ultimately a winning strategy to have to rely on force to maintain power. Much, much better to have informed, uncoerced, willing and wholehearted support.

      • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Sunday January 26 2020, @07:23PM

        by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Sunday January 26 2020, @07:23PM (#948966) Journal

        The server-centric software as a service is a big part of today's problems, so I wouldn't be boasting about linux's complicity in the software-as-a-spyware-service fraud that's being pulled on people.

        We could, and should, get rid of the server room. Peer-to-peer is both more robust and less open to abuse by the likes of google, amazon, twitter, facebook, etc.

        But keep drinking the kool-aid. A really robust market would have kept Microsoft in check. It didn't happen The dream was distributed computing among users. Any operating system. With a robust market for user software agents to do our bidding, going out there and finding the software components we wanted and negotiating the best prices for them, so each person could build their own version of a word processor or web browser from individual components, or buy them pre-assembled. Competition for customer's money would have assured continuous improvement.

        So screw the server room. After all, it's screwing us over 100 ways every day ...

        Look at the poor quality of linux user software and tell me I'm wrong. Look at the massive fragmentation of linux and tell me this is sane. Look at the roadmap for the future and tell me systemd is a needed improvement.

        Or just do a ps ax | count (oops, count is no longer installed as a default app, you stupid, stupid motherf*ckers) and tell me that a machine with no servers running needs to have more than 200 processes going at the same time.

        We need some new operating systems. Not clones that that were inspired by operating systems of the early 80s. The future is not linux, bsd, windows, or osx. Or if it is, we might as well abandon computing altogether.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by JoeMerchant on Sunday January 26 2020, @02:51PM

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday January 26 2020, @02:51PM (#948856)

    all you'll ever do is make the bullies richer

    Thus, and always... tyrants win until you overthrow them.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @04:00PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 26 2020, @04:00PM (#948900)

    what is this copyright you are talking about?
    is it about making a bitwise duplicate of a storage media or taking a string of ones and zeros on a storage medium with a name and a "c" in circle on it, changing, hmmm, one zero to one and then slapping another name with a "c" in a circle on it ... and selling it?

  • (Score: 2) by Rich on Sunday January 26 2020, @11:48PM

    by Rich (945) on Sunday January 26 2020, @11:48PM (#949056) Journal

    Monopolies are inefficient, Antitrust is broken, those in power aren't going to budge on the issue, lawmakers aren't going to fix bad court decisions, and (german proverb) the devil always shits on the biggest pile: Eventually the Chinese will buy up all the rights with their profits and give out licenses to play the precious works of art only if praise to Xi Jinping is sung in between.

    It might be an interesting approach to have a gradual move from income to property taxes. Not only would that shift the load of supporting the state from successful businesses to lardy amassments of money, it would also allow to tax "intellectual" property. After all they treat it as property. Now the twist is that there could be a kind of "eminent domain" for IP. Owners of IP would have to put a price tag on it. They pay, arbitrary number, 1% of that value as annual property tax. Say, an album is valued at $1M. That's 10 grand of taxes per annum. However, anyone else could pony up the million, maybe with an, arbitrary number again, 10% extra on top for the inconvenience, get the rights, and do whatever they want with it, including releasing it to the public domain. That would maintain the system, but resolve the inefficiencies of the monopolies, because the "property" would be put to the most valuable use by forces of the market.

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