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posted by Fnord666 on Monday February 17 2020, @06:14PM   Printer-friendly
from the ghostly-appearance dept.

Blizzard's cancelled 'StarCraft: Ghost' leaks in playable form

Blizzard's cancelled StarCraft: Ghost has been the stuff of gaming legend. It was supposed to mark Blizzard's big leap into 3D action games, but it never came to pass -- delays, changing developers and evolving game platforms led the studio to put the game on "indefinite hold." Now, however, gamers appear to be getting a first-hand look at what they've missed. YouTube users Leers Meneses, Delso Bezerra and others say they've obtained a playable build of Ghost for the original Xbox through a leaked developer kit. It's unsurprisingly broken (the first two missions don't work properly, Meneses said), but appears to have been well into development -- you can fend off Zerg and engage in Metal Gear Solid-style chats.

StarCraft: Ghost was announced in 2002, put on "indefinite hold" in 2006, and officially cancelled in 2014. Blizzard is attempting to squash the leak:

In January 2020, videos appearing to be from the Xbox version of the cancelled game started appearing online. On February 16, 2020, numerous videos showing different missions, areas, and gameplay were uploaded to the web. Reports of the Xbox development version game files leaking to the public started to emerge. Journalists at gaming publications such as Kotaku verified the legitimacy of the code that began to disseminate online. Throughout the day, infringement notices were issued to channels hosting footage of the game on YouTube, resulting in many videos being removed. Eventually the files widely disseminated online through filesharing methods such as public torrent trackers. This was the second time a playable, albeit unfinished and rough, version of a Blizzard game has leaked online, after Warcraft Adventures: Lord of the Clans being leaked online in September 2016.

Also at Wccftech.


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2020, @06:32PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2020, @06:32PM (#959238)

    you are funding google terrorism.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Freeman on Monday February 17 2020, @06:44PM (11 children)

    by Freeman (732) on Monday February 17 2020, @06:44PM (#959241) Journal

    I can see why Blizzard is covering their backsides, but I've long lost hope of Blizzard being anything greater than EA. They had a cult following and the suits have been doing their level best to scoop out the fans and insert popular memes.

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    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2020, @07:35PM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2020, @07:35PM (#959255)

      They've had a number of missteps since the Diablo Immortal debacle. It's past time to write the entire studio off.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Freeman on Monday February 17 2020, @08:09PM (7 children)

        by Freeman (732) on Monday February 17 2020, @08:09PM (#959262) Journal

        Personally, I would call Diablo 3 the inital misstep. While it was imminently playable, the whole auction house debacle, just left a cloud of stink. I never got around to giving it another go after my initial play through or so, but the feeling I got was that they were aiming for a whole lot more MMO than RPG. In an RPG, you want to be able to get all the cool gear. In D3, the gear was so rare, you would have to buy it. That was the first nail in the coffin so to speak.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2020, @09:50PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2020, @09:50PM (#959305)

          Doing only WoW was their initial misstep. As popular as the game was, the reality is that by investing so much in just one game, the necessary talent to create new series more or less evaporated. They haven't released anything worth playing since WoW that wasn't based heavily on games they had done previously. And even the games that were based on previous IP haven't lived up to their previous standards. SC2 was a joke, same goes for Diablo III that didn't even have a singleplayer option as they were so convinced that nobody wanted it.

        • (Score: 2, Interesting) by khallow on Tuesday February 18 2020, @12:15AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 18 2020, @12:15AM (#959362) Journal
          Starcraft II was the last game for me. They required you to have both an online account and active internet connection. It worked ok for a while, but then I went to other things for a while. Later I toyed with the idea of going back to Starcraft II, but I would have needed to get my account reactivated and I was working at places that didn't have reliable internet connections. It was too much bother for the reward. When I saw they were pulling the same crap with Diablo III, I just left and never looked back.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2020, @01:49AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2020, @01:49AM (#959392)

          D3's skill progression was much less fun.

        • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Tuesday February 18 2020, @03:52AM (3 children)

          by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 18 2020, @03:52AM (#959424) Journal

          I only heard about the AH bit in D3, I came to it after that.
          D3 has a number of things it has done better than anything else I've seen. It may not have started there, but it got there.

          1) Loot system. Drama is essentially eliminated.
          2) Loot system. There is nothing the best, hardest core, biggest clan player in the game can obtain that a casual soloer can't also.
          3) Grouping. Not required, speed things up and open some other play options (e.g. zdps)
          4) Raiding. Does not exist. Screw spending hours setting up some highly coordinated raid with 40 of my best friends
          5) Builds. Many viable builds. There's always 'the best' but anything close will get you there.
          6) PVP. Do not want balance based on it. Also 100% completely and unequivocally optional.
          7) Nerfs. D3's philosophy is to build other things up to balance instead of nerfing things. It's a lot more fun to never log in and be weaker than you were yesterday. (And no they aren't perfect at this, but they are better than other games)
          8) Social. Gotta have it. Clans handle this aspect nicely.
          9) F2P. Doesn't have to be, but that's a nice bit.
          10) Seasons. I find them fun, i like the way they change things up and theme them.

          D4 is going to balance around PVP. This is actually really depressing.

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          • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday February 18 2020, @03:33PM (2 children)

            by Freeman (732) on Tuesday February 18 2020, @03:33PM (#959544) Journal

            The Loot system is what I found the most annoying. I was able to get cool sets pretty easily on D1 and D2 along with other cool things. In D3, it seemed like the entire loot system was geared towards making things super rare, so you had to buy from the auction house. It was still broken a short while after the auction house was dumped. Sounds like they may have fixed it, which would be cool. Still, it reeked of cash grab. Which turned me into not a fan.

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            Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
            • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2020, @11:39PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2020, @11:39PM (#959707)

              They changed the drop rate on things, rebalanced drops, and removed some conditions from conditional drops. Interestingly enough, if you look at the patches, not all of them are disclosed. Instead people noticed by comparing across versions or from silent updates to the official guides.

            • (Score: 2, Interesting) by RandomFactor on Wednesday February 19 2020, @02:30AM

              by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 19 2020, @02:30AM (#959755) Journal

              Yeah, whatever they did up front may have been utterly horrible, but I got there after the AH was gone and it just doesn't sound like the same game people talk about from early days.

              It certainly isn't a cash grab now :-)

              There have been a couple of expansions over the years to buy, but I'm fine with that and perfectly happy picking those up for what they do to improve the game and to support it since it doesn't nickel and dime me the rest of the time. With working on D4 I don't know if there will be any more though.

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    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Thexalon on Monday February 17 2020, @08:39PM

      by Thexalon (636) on Monday February 17 2020, @08:39PM (#959273)

      Also worth bearing in mind is that it's been Activision-Blizzard for years, and any idea that any of the old Blizzard crew are in charge of anything is clearly a farce. They're Activision in all but name now.

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Tuesday February 18 2020, @03:57PM

      by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Tuesday February 18 2020, @03:57PM (#959553) Journal

      Yes? Oh, wait, not addressed to me...

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  • (Score: 2, Disagree) by Mojibake Tengu on Monday February 17 2020, @08:52PM (20 children)

    by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Monday February 17 2020, @08:52PM (#959278) Journal

    One good reason why Japanese games are always superior to Western games is the deep focus of the creators on true Art: not just technical amazements and computing power, but perfect and tuned game mechanics, neatly done graphics, music (often symphonic orchestra and/or opera class vocals) and, most importantly, the epic worthy story lines.
    The money makers engine behind the industry is near to same, no doubt about wringing, but the executive qualities are very divergent.
    I say: skills and discipline.

    Blizzard is an example of decadence in everything.

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Freeman on Monday February 17 2020, @09:32PM (17 children)

      by Freeman (732) on Monday February 17 2020, @09:32PM (#959297) Journal

      Your initial statement throws up your bias.

      One good reason why Japanese games are always superior to Western games

      There's plenty of Japanese games that are awful games. While there are also plenty of "Western" games that are good as well. Something being Japanese, doesn't automatically plop it in the good category and something being "Western" doesn't automatically plop it in the bad category.

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      • (Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Monday February 17 2020, @09:43PM (10 children)

        by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Monday February 17 2020, @09:43PM (#959302) Journal

        I disagree. Japanese games are always just superior. That's an objective reality for me, not a bias.

        Just like, certain political perceptions of, say, Russia, are objective reality to Western media and not considered bias by them.
        I just keep to their paradigm of opinioning. Western games are decadent. Always.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2020, @09:52PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2020, @09:52PM (#959308)

          jRPGs are pretty much always inferior to RPGs. Final Fantasy was one of the worst series ever.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2020, @12:58AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2020, @12:58AM (#959377)

            Your opinions are like ogres. They have layers. Layers of stench.

            • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday February 18 2020, @03:37PM

              by Freeman (732) on Tuesday February 18 2020, @03:37PM (#959546) Journal

              Someone doesn't like Onions.

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              Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
        • (Score: 5, Touché) by tangomargarine on Monday February 17 2020, @10:02PM

          by tangomargarine (667) on Monday February 17 2020, @10:02PM (#959312)

          objective reality

          for me

          Fatal error: incompatible terms used in declaration. Compilation halted.

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        • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday February 17 2020, @10:12PM (3 children)

          by Freeman (732) on Monday February 17 2020, @10:12PM (#959320) Journal

          That is the kind of thinking that led to World War II. Which the Japanese and Germans lost. Thus, proving that they aren't always superior. Too harsh? I think not.

          FYI, the only Japanese people I have known are/were nice people. Are you Japanese, just trolling, or both? There's all kinds of people everywhere.

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          Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
          • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Mojibake Tengu on Tuesday February 18 2020, @12:37AM (2 children)

            by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Tuesday February 18 2020, @12:37AM (#959368) Journal

            We will see, what the non-World-War-II-thinking media of yours will do to Julian Assange, one of their own, very soon, in just couple of days.

            My affinity to Japan is cultural. When I wanted to play Japanese games, it was a necessity to understand all the complex culture, so I began to study it, long time ago.
            I am Czech. And I very well remember through my family history and fates, how the West, our Allies, betrayed Czechoslovakia at the table and gifted it to Hitler in 1938.
            That's why I hate Britannia, from the depth of my heart. Same, as I hate Germany. And that's why I respect Russians, for it was they who liberated us for the cost of their blood.
            But more, in 90's, I spent several months in India, where I learned many witnessed stories about British atrocities over there, many surpassing even what Hitler did in Europe.

            So, not trolling at all, my wrath on Saxons is real and rooted in experience and my genes.

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            • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2020, @10:11AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2020, @10:11AM (#959480)

              I spent several months in India, where I learned many witnessed stories about British atrocities over there..

              So, not trolling at all, my wrath on Saxons is real and rooted in experience and my genes.

              Minor nitpick, not all British people are of Saxon descent..in fact, I leave it for you ponder the origins of the name British and that of the bit of the British Isles that is fair infested with these pseudo-germanic immigrant buggers...England.

              And, regarding the Japs, if we're talking atrocities, have a word with the Chinese, Koreans etc. etc. about some of that 'complex culture' the Japs charmed them with in the second world war...

              I may be trolling...

            • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday February 19 2020, @04:10PM

              by Freeman (732) on Wednesday February 19 2020, @04:10PM (#959892) Journal

              Julian Assange's goose is well cooked, if he ends up in the USA. There's no way he ends up here and not in prison. Well, I guess, he could end up here in a pine box, but that'd be less than ideal for him too.

              I can't say much about World War II with regards to things that happened, before the USA even entered into the war. Most of Europe was essentially steam rolled and even Great Britain was nearly lost during WWII. I've never heard anyone refer to the United Kingdom as Britannia and the only time I've heard that term thrown around was in the Ultima series of games. The leader of the Russian people was sacrificing his people and committed atrocities on his own people, so I don't have respect for him.

              Regarding the revered leader of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) during WWII:

              Since the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, Stalin has retained popularity in Russia and Georgia as a victorious wartime leader who established the Soviet Union as a major world power. Conversely, his totalitarian government has been widely condemned for overseeing mass repressions, ethnic cleansing, deportations, hundreds of thousands of executions, and famines which killed millions.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin [wikipedia.org]

              The Soviet Union was the enemy of my enemy during WWII. I can see why you could hold respect for the people who bled to fight your enemies, but I would think Stalin, the secret police/KGB would have turned you into a little less of a fan of the Russians in general.

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        • (Score: 4, Funny) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Tuesday February 18 2020, @03:56PM

          by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Tuesday February 18 2020, @03:56PM (#959552) Journal

          Mojibake: Somebody set us up the game.
          Freeman: Main reply turn on.
          Lawn: All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us.
          Lawn: You have no chance to argue make your time.
          Mojibake: Move 'Absolute'
          Freeman: For great justice!

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        • (Score: 3, Touché) by Booga1 on Wednesday February 19 2020, @03:40PM

          by Booga1 (6333) on Wednesday February 19 2020, @03:40PM (#959882)

          May I introduce you to this little gem: OneChanbara: Bikini Zombie Slayers [wikipedia.org]
          I bought a copy on a lark seeing it on the shelf in a Game Stop for like, $1.73. It should have been less. The entire series has averaged around a 3/10 scale for reviews. It's got weak game play, the level designs are all over the place, and the dialogue is like so corny I think they're actually trying to make it "so bad it's good." I did laugh and it makes a little conversation with other gamers that haven't heard of the series.

          Here's a video of a typical arena stage. [youtube.com] Some of them spawn all the zombies at once and can be finished in as little as 17 seconds.

          Shovel-ware games are made for every platform from every continent that actually has a game developer on it.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2020, @10:15PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2020, @10:15PM (#959324)

        I'd disagree as well. There are "awful" Japanese games because their choice of game mechanics, storyline, game world, etc. doesn't fit my personal preference - but I've never really had experience to the level of Western games where it is clearly pushed out prematurely with bugs galore rendering the actual gameplay a nightmare.

        Sure, there are low cost Japanese games where you can see cheap graphics and low quality audio, but that kind of experience is unlike buggy games. And most of the buggy games are from big studios!

        • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday February 17 2020, @11:20PM (3 children)

          by Freeman (732) on Monday February 17 2020, @11:20PM (#959346) Journal

          There may be a bit of a difference in that way, but that's not what I was understanding the OP say. I'd also, be pretty surprised, if there's no equivalent buggy game releases. Maybe, I'm just a bit too pessimistic with regards to game developers nowadays.

          Still, some of the best games ever have come from independent game dev studios. A lot of what we're seeing, with regards to the very buggy releases, etc. are behemoth corporations that used to be good dev studios. Then, the corporate takeovers happened and it's release early, release often, move fast and break things. When I look at the state of mobile games and what they've introduced into traditional games, I can't help but think that they asked for it. Sure, there have been games with DLC, with some DLC being worth it more than others. What we didn't have is the fake money buying schemes in every single game, because Money. Though, I guess you could possibly trace that back to Ultima Online and people selling virtual money for real money. It just used to be so much easier to avoid. Whereas now, you have a $60 Activision/Blizzard game that has in-app purchases for random rewards.

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          • (Score: 2) by nobu_the_bard on Tuesday February 18 2020, @02:00PM (2 children)

            by nobu_the_bard (6373) on Tuesday February 18 2020, @02:00PM (#959514)

            There's a ton of buggy releases in Japanese gaming too. They just usually aren't released internationally in that state - they typically get released in Japan first, bugs and all, then are patched, then get an international release. Sometimes (mostly on consoles) they get a re-release in Japan as an "International" version that has new features and bug fixes that were made for the exported edition (plus lets them sell the game twice domestically, in case you were thinking they were less greedy than the Western companies, too).

            This whole process leads to a perception in the West they are higher quality products sometimes. I've often wondered if the Japanese end up with the same misconception for Western games, which go through a similar process when they're exported...

            I agree with the assertion Japanese games not inherently better. They are a different breed entirely. They produce just as much shovelware as the West does; the nature of their shovelware is a bit different but it's not better or worse.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2020, @11:48PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2020, @11:48PM (#959709)

              Yeah, it is a clear survivorship bias [wikipedia.org].

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2020, @11:51PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2020, @11:51PM (#959710)

                And I just realized someone else beat me to that point.

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by SunTzuWarmaster on Tuesday February 18 2020, @04:35PM

        by SunTzuWarmaster (3971) on Tuesday February 18 2020, @04:35PM (#959570)
        There is a STRONG sense of survivorship bias, as the Japanese games that are import-worthy are notably superior to the ones which are not imported.
    • (Score: 2) by shortscreen on Tuesday February 18 2020, @01:34AM (1 child)

      by shortscreen (2252) on Tuesday February 18 2020, @01:34AM (#959384) Journal

      Amen, Tengu-san.

      But you forgot to mention the fan service!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2020, @01:47AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2020, @01:47AM (#959391)

        Spheroid physics simulations.

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