"Kentucky Republican Rand Paul is the first US senator to test positive for coronavirus, throwing an even greater sense of urgency into Senate negotiations over a massive stimulus package that had yet to come together Sunday afternoon.
A statement from Paul's office posted to his Twitter account Sunday said he was "feeling fine" and was "tested out of an abundance of caution." But some senators and aides are angry at Paul for not doing more to self-quarantine earlier and for potentially exposing senators to the coronavirus.
[...] Senate Republicans, emerging from their closed-door lunch where they received the news, were extremely unsettled.
GOP senators told CNN Paul was in the gym with colleagues Sunday morning, and several pointed out how close Paul had sat to others during Senate lunches in recent days. Sen. Jerry Moran of Kansas said he saw Paul in the Senate swimming pool Sunday, according to a source in the GOP lunch.
"This is a different ballgame now," one Republican senator told CNN."
If one ignores the guidelines for social distancing like the above Senator, as well as the President in his daily briefing such as 6 foot separation and avoiding gatherings of more than 10 people, one may well expect to become infected. One's status and position will not provide protection.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/politics/rand-paul-coronavirus/index.html
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @01:34AM (32 children)
This thing is gonna turn into another seasonal flu - low lethality and asymptotic carriers means this virus, unlike ebola that kills its hosts too quick to let it spread wide, will be around for long-ass time. The only long-term answer is vaccine and treatment drugs.
Thanks, CCP, xi jin flu fuck, thanks for exporting new contagious disease almost annually.
We need an economic divorce from China. The whole world needs it, The Russian menace looks trivial in comparison.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by ikanreed on Monday March 23 2020, @02:05AM (13 children)
It might become a seasonal virus, but coronaviruses don't have the flu's unique, easily mutated topology that makes it so resistant to inoculation, whether natural or vaccines.
Temporarily endemic, but it might be possible to entirely eradicate in human populations once vaccines are available, the way we do polio.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @02:10AM (6 children)
Or we could eradicate it the old fashioned way... infect everyone, lose 4% of the population (mostly old white men so no great loss to the economy), develop herd immunity, and then get on with life.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @03:11AM
What a deal that the fatality rate will likely be a lot less than even 4%. We could all be working and getting on with our life, but that would deprive the government from conducting a grand social experiment.
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday March 23 2020, @03:34AM (2 children)
There are indications that could be read as "Having gotten over it once doesn't leave you immune.". There are also other ways to read them, of course, if you're feeling optimistic.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 2) by Beryllium Sphere (r) on Monday March 23 2020, @03:54AM (1 child)
For example, there was the Japanese lady who was apparently re-infected.
It doesn't seem to be common.
A priori SARS COV 2 could be expected to behave like other coronaviruses, which do cause immunity. The question of how long the immunity lasts is critical and AFAIK open.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @04:23AM
Eh? The original SARS does not result in immunity upon infection. That was the main reason developing a vaccine failed.
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Monday March 23 2020, @03:40AM (1 child)
No, the problem is that a lot of younger and healthier people also require hospitalization and ventilator support. I think I read somewhere that 20% of those hospitalized were under 40. So if we infect everyone, we'll completely overwhelm the hospitals in most countries (esp. America, where we really don't have very many beds for the size of the population), and then tons of people will be dying from all kinds of other ailments because there's just no capacity to treat them all.
But you might be onto something: if things get that bad, they'll enact severe triage measures, which means that older people (esp. men) will be lowest-priority, so we'll lose a large chunk of the population older than 50 or 60 years old. This will probably result in a massive change in the electorate, the GOP being killed off very quickly (because they won't have that many voters left), and Bernie-loving voters taking over and finally getting single-payer healthcare in this country for the 200 million people who survive.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @03:46AM
Cause, like South Korea lost half its population, you know.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @05:57PM (2 children)
i know you're a suckass propagandist for big pharma and big gov, but polio was largely eradicated b/c people got indoor plumbing and were able to wash their hands after shitting.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by ikanreed on Monday March 23 2020, @06:10PM
"I know you're a shill for things that work, but other things that work also happened"
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday March 23 2020, @08:33PM
...my car still drives.
(Score: 2) by darkfeline on Monday March 23 2020, @06:11PM (2 children)
Have you heard of the anti-vaccine movement?
Join the SDF Public Access UNIX System today!
(Score: 4, Funny) by ikanreed on Monday March 23 2020, @06:54PM (1 child)
Get out now! The antivax is coming from inside the thread!
(Score: 4, Informative) by PartTimeZombie on Monday March 23 2020, @10:02PM
I suppose it had to happen eventually, but Soylent News has attracted it's very own anti-vaxx flat earther.
Yes, it is weird.
(Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Monday March 23 2020, @02:10AM (12 children)
Greed will probably keep that from happening. Western companies want access to the Chinese market. Moving manufacturing back out would take years. Institutions like the WHO have played China's tune. Leaders, including President Trump, have been lenient towards China.
As the U.S. Blames China for the Coronavirus Pandemic, the Rest of the World Asks China for Help [archive.is]
Until recently, Trump was praising China. It's probably too late for any change in messaging to have a big effect. It would be interesting to see some bombshell information dropped, but who is going to do that? The CIA?
Coronavirus Drives the U.S. and China Deeper Into Global Power Struggle [archive.is]
Don't hate, cooperate!
Coronavirus Pandemic Changes Forever The U.S.-China Relationship [forbes.com]
China is supposedly ramping up manufacturing right now [cnbc.com]. But this is the short term stuff. In the long term, it makes sense to move manufacturing for products back to countries like the U.S. Another option would be to move manufacturing to countries with much lower labor costs than China, but factories will become even more highly automated than they are today, making labor costs irrelevant. Tariffs and lower transportation costs could counter the costs of stricter environmental regulations.
China Is Avoiding Blame by Trolling the World [theatlantic.com]
China has a good chance of getting away with it. As the chaos of the pandemic subsides, economic opportunities will be created. For all we know, China will be in a better position post-pandemic.
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Monday March 23 2020, @04:01AM (11 children)
In the long term, it makes sense to move manufacturing for products back to countries like the U.S. Another option would be to move manufacturing to countries with much lower labor costs than China, but factories will become even more highly automated than they are today, making labor costs irrelevant.
Why would Chinese companies want to move manufacturing to the US or any other country besides China? This statement sounds completely arrogant, as if Western nations are the only ones that know how to set up factories. Chinese factories aren't run by Western companies; they're run by Chinese companies that Western companies have outsourced their operations to. How are you going to "move manufacturing back" when you don't have it any more, and you don't remember how to do it because you long ago laid off all the institutional knowledge holders that knew how to do it? Some manufacturing is still done in America, but I'm sure those companies are busy running their own operations, and have no desire to move into some totally different industry manufacturing something completely different. The fact is, all that stuff made in China is stuff that America no longer knows how to do, or for newer technologies, never knew how to do in the first place.
Tariffs and lower transportation costs could counter the costs of stricter environmental regulations.
So you want to set up big tariffs for Chinese-made stuff, hoping that somehow, magically, American companies will start making that stuff instead? This reminds me a lot of Robert Mugabe's thinking in Zimbabwe, that he could seize farms from white people who had been farming there for decades if not generations, then give it to black people who had never run a farm before, and somehow this was going to be successful, and of course it wasn't, it was a total disaster that resulted in massive hyperinflation.
China has a good chance of getting away with it. As the chaos of the pandemic subsides, economic opportunities will be created. For all we know, China will be in a better position post-pandemic.
They absolutely will. You might as well get used to thinking of China as the new sole superpower. This is what happens when one big, economically powerful nation manages to have halfway-competent leadership, and competing nations continue to shoot themselves in the feet and choose utterly incompetent leadership. China's made plenty of screw-ups, but when their competitors have absolutely no idea what they're doing, that's still good enough.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @04:20AM (1 child)
Your implication that entire industries migrate atomically is absurd. There's many fields where the same type of product is made in China for cheap, and also made in the US expensively.
Please, cite some examples. Can't wait.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Pav on Monday March 23 2020, @02:29PM
China hasn't surpassed the US in many areas? You're kidding right? Other than the knowledge that authomatically comes from doing such massive production of goods and infrastructure, in a few short years they have more and better high speed rail infrastructure than the rest of the world combined, paradigm-busting artificial intelligence technology [medium.com], they're leaders in rare earth mining technology, are leaders in anti-ship ballistic missile technology [wikipedia.org]... their current crop are called "carrier killers" with a range that can reach almost the entire world from within the borders of China. Their biotech industry doesn't have as many controls so stem cell ltechnologies... not just using stem cells on knees etc... but lung regeneration, human genome editing in embryos, world leading genome editing and sequencing techniques, cloning of primates (and probably humans) etc... and those are just the things on the tip of my brain from reading sites such as this.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday March 23 2020, @06:33AM (7 children)
That seems almost silly. A mere fifty years ago, China was pretty much incapable of heavy industry. Thirty years ago, they were getting clues. Then, all the rich people in the US hopped on board with exporting industry to China.
The US, EU, and all the rest of the more-or-less developed nations in the world can relearn what they have "forgotten" in pretty short order. That is, it won't take fifty years to ramp up again.
If the flow of industry were to be reversed, back into the US, we still have the expertise around to run a factory. Maybe we don't have the most expert people around anymore, in some cases. But we can do just about anything, or we can find the people necessary to get it done. One to six experts running operations, and training assistants, and in three years, we are a going concern again.
That goes for just about anything. Iron, steel, tin, plastics, high tech, low tech, whether it be in the Sun Belt, the Rust Belt, east coast, west coast, Gulf Coast, or flyover country.
All it takes is determination. We can do it. If we wait a hundred years before we decide to do it, then it would be a real bitch. No more experts, or they are so very rare as to make little difference.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @03:39PM (6 children)
> back into the US, we still have the expertise around to run a factory
For $95/hour vs $15/hour
It keeps equalizing but not there yet
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday March 23 2020, @04:01PM (5 children)
I don't know where you get your $95/hr. Here, in Arkiesaw, with their right to work laws, the top dogs who get stuff done in factories may be getting half of that. Not likely, but maybe. Management? Hell, they're skimming everything they can off the top, but they aren't the experts I was referring to. Management, on a good day, can pour piss out of a boot, if the instructions are printed on the bottom. Men and women out in the foundry produce iron and steel, aluminum and glass, parts and components. Management produces nothing but bullshit.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @07:27PM (3 children)
Yet you seem to keep supporting the system. I blame your ignorance, you THINK you're doing the right thing by voting for leopards, so it isn't your fault when they rip your face off.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday March 23 2020, @07:34PM
Maybe. And, maybe better the leopards that I know how to deal with, than the snakes in the grass who sneak up behind me and poison me.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday March 23 2020, @08:35PM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @10:00PM
Ah the defenses of fools.
What a sad state conservatives are in.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Monday March 23 2020, @10:32PM
It doesn't really matter what the exact number is. Once capitalism decided more money was to made from China, and the Chinese government made the deal that has given the west access, places like Arkansas become irrelevant.
Unfortunately, in my view.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @06:08PM
"as if Western nations are the only ones that know how to set up factories"
not now, but we were the only ones who knew how to do anything modern before sell-outs gave it away to the mongoloids.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by shortscreen on Monday March 23 2020, @04:15AM (3 children)
The people whose job it is to have the information (ie. the unaccountable three-letter agencies) got the information. They passed it to the people whose job it is to act on that information (ie. Congress). And act on it they did. By selling their stock before the price went down.
You see? The system works.
Of course, the next line in the script is to plead "intelligence failure" and/or blame another country.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @06:27AM (2 children)
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-trump-united-states-public-health-emergency-response/ [foreignpolicy.com]
Note the date on the article above. Trump didn't even acknowledge an issue until 13 March.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @05:22PM (1 child)
Publically, he didnt acknowledge it publically. There is a reason you don't hype up events, people respond like morons. Case and point Costco out of milk paper towels and tissues, but plenty of dehydrated milk.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @09:35PM
Riiiight....
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-calls-democrats-coronavirus-criticism-a-new-hoax [thedailybeast.com]
Which is a bald-faced lie.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/486559-trump-fake-news-media-democrats-working-to-inflame-the-coronavirus [thehill.com]
Which is *another* bald-faced lie. What's more, in this case, he's directly saying that what we *know* to be true is a lie meant to damage him politically.
Damn, you just have to defend that piece of shit don't you?
Wake the fuck up!
(Score: 2) by legont on Tuesday March 24 2020, @03:00AM
If they manage to do it, wouldn't it prove a long standing conspiracy theory? No virus respiratory ilnesses were ever treated by the western medicine for some reason.
My only optimistic bet is that the bug mutates to friendlier form by itself. Yes, it will be a slow and painfull process.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Monday March 23 2020, @03:21AM
The Jews did it as revenge for WWII. Oh, look, now they have a vaccine! America's "special relationship" with Israel has moved from Stockholm syndrome to all-out Munchausen-by-proxy.
(Score: 2, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday March 23 2020, @03:35AM (41 children)
Let's see his libertarian horseshit save him now. Serves him exactly right. I hope McConnell gets it next and the both of them wake up in Hell together.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0, Troll) by khallow on Monday March 23 2020, @04:19AM (17 children)
Because there's no libertarians in foxholes, amirite?
(Score: 3, Touché) by ilPapa on Monday March 23 2020, @04:34AM (2 children)
Libertarians don't tend to serve in the military, so no, they aren't in foxholes.
You are still welcome on my lawn.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @06:09AM (1 child)
And, they tend not to be real doctors. (Ayn) Rand (son of Ron) racist Paul, can fuck off and die, but not before he is sued for personal responsibility and liabilty by every member of the Senate, exclusive of those in prison for insider tradeing.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by khallow on Monday March 23 2020, @08:37PM
(Score: 0, Troll) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday March 23 2020, @02:59PM (13 children)
You can burn in Hell right along with them. You're part of the problem. I fear you and people like you more than I fear this virus.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Troll) by khallow on Monday March 23 2020, @05:44PM (11 children)
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday March 24 2020, @02:50AM (10 children)
Sociopaths--that's you--only learn through personal suffering. This is why I don't wish death on the cases with even a remote chance of redeemability. Instead I wish homelessness, poverty, ill health, anomie, all the things I've suffered, *so that they get some fucking perspective.* The ones I wish death on are the ones who have committed such heinous crimes against humanity that their possible redemption in this world is a non-issue.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday March 24 2020, @10:48AM (9 children)
It didn't work for you, why is it supposed to work for me?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday March 24 2020, @02:10PM (8 children)
"Nuh uh, no u" hasn't worked since second grade. You are very clearly a sociopath as your post history shows, and I am not. Non-sequitur as well as childish.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0, Troll) by khallow on Tuesday March 24 2020, @04:16PM (7 children)
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday March 25 2020, @01:58AM (6 children)
See, your problem is that since you *are* a sociopath, you have no actual moral backdrop against which to make those judgments. I understand; you're fundamentally broken, a grim parody of a human being, and what's worse is that you might not have started that way. But that doesn't make any difference now, does it?
I wish you the suffering necessary to break your arrogant heart of stone. It's a shame there's no other way, but you chose this path.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday March 25 2020, @04:37PM (5 children)
Let's dwell on this accusation for a bit. First, words have meaning. Sociopath doesn't mean completely devoid of morality, though that can be the case. Like all things psychological, it is a matter of degree. You are including in your statement here a number of people who aren't completely morally crippled, and thus, your stereotyping is false.
Second, I have demonstrated on numerous occasions the moral backdrop you choose to ignore (for a few examples, here [soylentnews.org], here [soylentnews.org], here [soylentnews.org], here [soylentnews.org], here [soylentnews.org], here [soylentnews.org], here [soylentnews.org], and here [soylentnews.org]).
Third, you acknowledge that it is possible for a sociopath to fix themselves through experience and learning in your last paragraph. When have you last tried?
Finally, the ad hominem, begging-the-question nature of the label gets in the way again. Even if it really were the case that I was a sociopath, it still doesn't mean I'm wrong, even on matters of morality, and can be so casually dismissed. Well, you can dismiss peoples' opinions and knowledge on any spurious, arbitrary, and negligent basis you wish, but it's not a good idea, just saying.
It looks to me at present like you fall in the shallow side of this sociopathy pool, with a sense of morality, but unable to properly apply your morality to others due to some degree of narcissism and antagonist behavior. Should we wish you suffer some more in order to fix that?
I consider this the ultimate abdication of your argument. You have nothing to say, productive or not, so you hope bad things happen, and that somehow, contrary to millennia of known, very contrary experience, this will be a learning experience rather than a continuation of the status quo.
For example, consider the revolutions of France (1789) or the Chinese and Russian civil wars of the last century. People who had suffered for generations turned to ruthless evil when it was their turn at power. Suffering hadn't enlightened them a bit.
And there is the ultimate futility of the "wish". You hope I'm wrong and you hope that reality will punish me via karma for having these beliefs and opinions. That ignores both that reality doesn't seem interested in karma nor that my beliefs are mostly moral as well, and hence, would not be subject to karma.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday March 26 2020, @12:23AM (4 children)
That is a lot of words to say "yeah I'm evil, what are you gonna do about it?" To which I've already said "nothing, it's not my beat." Keep whistling past the graveyard...you'll be in it soon enough.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 26 2020, @01:31AM (3 children)
You remind me a lot of fustakrakich. The same willful blindness. The same strange inability to back your words with anything.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday March 26 2020, @02:48PM (2 children)
The irony is off the charts. You and he make a perfect couple, you know that? And I love watching you two fight!
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 26 2020, @03:42PM (1 child)
Perhaps some day you'll figure out why.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday March 27 2020, @12:49PM
Oh, I *know* why. You, on the other hand, appear to be stubbornly putting off any personal growth until it's much too late.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Troll) by khallow on Monday March 23 2020, @05:47PM
If that's the worst you have to fear, then you're doing pretty damn well for yourself.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @04:29AM (2 children)
I hope that none of the horrible things you've wished upon other people ever happen to you.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @06:10AM
#MeToo
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday March 23 2020, @03:00PM
I've had more than my share of horrors already, thanks. Take your tone trolling and shove it. All I want is to see some poetic justice done to humanity's enemies before I die. Is that so much to ask?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @09:38AM (2 children)
Why haven't you moved to Canada already, you whiny bitch? Is it because Canada doesn't want you, either?
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @11:59AM
Canada already has Hudson to deal with.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday March 23 2020, @03:00PM
Money, fuckstick. I no has da monies yet. Believe me, if I did, I wouldn't be sitting around northwestern Pennsylvania with my thumb up my nose watching the country collapse in slow motion.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @12:04PM (12 children)
That woman is so full of hatred, she could grin ole Davey Crocket, Daniel Boone, and Stonewall Jackson and any bears in the vicinity to death, all at the same time.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @12:31PM
Well, it was somewhere in the terms of incorporation that we had to accept a lesbian. I insisted that we hold out for a Wicca lesbian, or a Druid lesbian, or even a Maia lesbian, but everyone else just agreed to the first lesbian to apply. Look what we're stuck with now!
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday March 23 2020, @03:02PM (10 children)
Please, you don't know from hate. This is just grim satisfaction at seeing Lady Karma get off her ass and start sniping people...and for all we know he'll recover just fine. This site is built around the principle of free speech uber alles. If you don't like it, the door's that way, and don't let it hit ya where the mother goddess split ya on the way out, snowflake.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Insightful) by khallow on Tuesday March 24 2020, @04:20PM (9 children)
In other words, hate. Rationalize it all you want, but you can't get away from your emotions that way.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday March 25 2020, @01:55AM (8 children)
So any time justice is done, it's hate? There is some truth to the saying that evil people invented mercy, as the good don't need it, perhaps? Some part of you, maybe, subconsciously knows how much you're going to have to answer for, but your stupid, stubborn pride prevents you from the necessary repentance (Koine "metanoia"). All well and good. You will be broken, one way or another. Keep whistling in the dark...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday March 25 2020, @04:44PM (7 children)
Or perhaps there isn't truth to the saying.
Standard religious nuttery - you're wrong because you're not listening to the sky god hard enough.
And that's supposed to be relevant why? Am I not supposed to follow my moral beliefs because I will break one day?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday March 26 2020, @12:26AM (6 children)
The laws of physics ain't religious. Karma is to physics as time is to entropy. "This arising, that also arises; this ceasing, that also ceases." Morals are emergent.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 26 2020, @02:08AM (5 children)
Or apples are to oranges.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday March 26 2020, @02:52PM (4 children)
Sorry, was that too hard for you?
It's like this: entropy always was, even before we came along. Time is how we measure entropy. The laws of physics predate us. Karma is how we measure them with a social/moral metric. Got it now? There's no vengeful God keeping a naughty list up in the sky somewhere. The phrase "Hell is other people" is *precisely* wrong.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 26 2020, @03:37PM (3 children)
If you have a good way to link entropy and time that well, please step up and get that Nobel prize. Currently, it's at the pass-the-roach stage of development with the rudimentary acknowledgement that entropy increases with time.
Complete bullshit. For example, a key precept of modern physics is relativity - that the laws of physics are the same in any reference frame. What would a corresponding social/moral relativity look like?
By your own admission, you claim that there is no such common laws of Karma between you and me because our morality is alleged so utterly different. More accurately, my reference frame allegedly can't support your Karma.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday March 27 2020, @12:53PM (2 children)
You appear to be having reading comprehension difficulties.
The analogy here is to quantity vs. number. Numbers are something we made up, but they are useful to handle quantities. Quantities existed before numbers. Numbers describe them. In fact, "laws of nature" are merely anthropic *descriptions* of natural processes. Same deal here.
As to "my reference frame allegedly can't support your Karma," you're again failing to comprehend the plain language of what is being said to you. A flat-Earther's reference frame can't support the idea of a round Earth, but it's round nonetheless, and no amount of stubborn denial or willful ignorance is going to change that. You are the moral equivalent of a flat-Earther. drowning in denial. Karma--which is to say more accurately, the plain ol' laws of cause and effect as they relate to the human organism--doesn't give a fuck whether you understand or not, believe or not.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 27 2020, @01:26PM (1 child)
That's always been a stock phrase for identifying disagreement. Should have written something different then.
Not even close. Karma as you have used it doesn't describe a thing nor is ever described. It serves in neither role. It's supernatural woo that you claim has some unstated relationship to physical law.
Only because they active reject the model. Sorry, that's not happening here.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday March 28 2020, @12:13AM
The best part of all this is that you both prove my point and demonstrate exactly how self-sealing your pathology is every time you reply :)
Time is how we put a human face on entropy. Numbers are how we put a human face on quantity. Karma is how we put a human face on the laws of cause and effect, some of which are not entirely describable by the current state of science. I can't make this any simpler; the map is not the territory, and just because you refuse to engage with the territory doesn't mean it doesn't exist or you can bend it to your will by stamping your feet and throwing a narcissistic shit-fit and scrawling your own map in your own feces.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @06:14PM (1 child)
You're a stupid bitch. He's one of the very few people in congress who votes the Real American way many times. You don't belong here, you brainwashed slave.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday March 24 2020, @02:52AM
Sorry, what? I can't hear you with Paul's dick down your throat and Burke's so far up your ass he's buggering the last thing your maternal grandpa ate.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 3, Insightful) by digitalaudiorock on Monday March 23 2020, @08:32PM (1 child)
It's also worth noting that a) he contracted this at an event he arguably shouldn't have gone to in the first place, where several attendees later tested positive, b) other attendees to this event took precautions and self-quarantined, and c) Paul chose NOT to do the later and instead actively met with others including other senators, and they are NOT happy about it. I guess in his imaginary libertarian utopia, nobody matters except yours truly. Rand Paul is total fucking dick.
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday March 23 2020, @10:40PM
No, he's a Real American™ The A/C above told me so, and he wouldn't lie would he?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by PinkyGigglebrain on Monday March 23 2020, @07:32AM
He'll be fine. After all, he will get the best medical care the taxpayers can afford.
"Beware those who would deny you Knowledge, For in their hearts they dream themselves your Master."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @01:13PM
I'm pretty sure the pharao said the same thing when the plagues arrived.
(Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Monday March 23 2020, @04:17PM
> One's status and position will not provide protection.
No, but it will enable access to vastly improved healthcare. Not enough ventilators? Out of my way, schmucks.