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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday May 23 2020, @08:23AM   Printer-friendly
from the like-a-Jackson-Pollock-painting dept.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/13/health/japan-black-light-experiment-coronavirus-trnd-wellness/index.html

The video shows 10 people coming into the restaurant, with one singled out as an "infected" person. A fluorescent substance only visible under black light is applied onto that person's hands, representing germs from a cough or a sneeze. Each participant then goes about the buffet as they normally would, not considering a potential contamination.

At the end of the video, the participants are cast under black lights illuminating where the "infection" has spread.

The substance, used to signify the germs, can be seen on food, serving utensils and platters, and even on the faces of some of the participants.


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @08:31AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @08:31AM (#998098)

    This is how everything spreads, even the common flu. Turn off CNN.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @09:29AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @09:29AM (#998109)

      Aye, everything spreads that way in a restaurant; fecal matter, name-your-own-nightmare..

      Ditto wrt fast-food/takeaway kitchens...
      Ditto wrt shops...
      Ditto wrt your home...
      Ditto wrt almost everywhere...

      Not one mention of time vs %viable on surfaces, no mention of how probable transmission by touching contaminated surfaces is , no modelling of the 'miasma' caused by viral shedding in the enclosed space which is the thing far more likely to cause transmission..

      Visually Informative as a means of showing how contamination by touch spreads, though I thought that was already obvious and well known.

      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @02:15PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @02:15PM (#998146)

        > Visually Informative as a means of showing how contamination by touch spreads, though I thought that was already obvious and well known.

        You give people too much credit. Stop and think about the "open everything up now" protesters--would seeing this demo give them any pause?

        As a good friend once pointed out, the IQ scale is centered at 100... (not that IQ is a great measure of anything, but it probably does measure some things).

        • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @04:49PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @04:49PM (#998180)

          I present to you: Latvia. A very nice Baltic country without a lockdown, without mandatory masks, with working shops, markets and, yes, restaurants and cafes. The primary anti-virus measure was social distancing, which is getting relaxed now too.
          Right now, per 1.8 million population: 1046 infected, 712 of which already recovered and confirmed virus-free, 22 died with the virus (no one younger that 50).
          https://spkc.gov.lv/lv/tavai-veselibai/aktualitate-par-jauno-koronavi [spkc.gov.lv]

    • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @11:04PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @11:04PM (#998294)

      #CNNIsTrash #CNNIsFox

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @08:32AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @08:32AM (#998099)

    Fecal matter, wasn't it? Glow in the dark fecal matter. Merde!!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @11:40AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @11:40AM (#998117)

      Sperm stains on hotel blankets.... didn't that also give a glow in the dark with black light?

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @09:05AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @09:05AM (#998106)

    I thought this might be interesting, but I stopped reading when it mentioned that it was a buffet. I thought everyone already understood that buffets are horrendously unsanitary at the best of times. Accellerators of herd immunity, nothing more.

    • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Saturday May 23 2020, @09:22AM

      by MostCynical (2589) on Saturday May 23 2020, @09:22AM (#998108) Journal

      not even a modern one, with glass shields at chest height.
      .
      .
      .
      on an unrelated note:
      the 'load' of glowing stuff would do a porn star proud - and he got it everywhere.

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      "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @11:38AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @11:38AM (#998116)

      I thought everyone already understood that buffets are horrendously unsanitary at the best of times.

      At the end of the movie they replicate the experiment, but now with sanitary rules in place. Contamination was reduced a lot (completely?).

  • (Score: 2, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @12:25PM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @12:25PM (#998126)

    At your typical Indian buffet, the fecal contamination from the food preparation would overwhelm the coronavirus and neutralize it.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @01:09PM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @01:09PM (#998132)

      An old colleague told me the story of his last visit to Thailand, being taken to an exclusive floating restaurant, trying to eat the food with raw sewage, human excrement et al, floating merrily past... less than 10ft away...

      Then there are countries where they use human excrement as fertilizer for fruit crops, with 'interesting' effect on any non-local who eats the fruit..

      I once purchased a can of Coke at a shop in a London railway station, sitting on the train, pulled the ring, raised can to bib the cold sugary caffeinated goodness only for my nose to scream 'Danger Will Robinson!' as it was assailed by the smell of shit., the clatty bastard who'd stacked the fridge had obviously not washed tneir hands after the last visit to the toilet....

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @03:26PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @03:26PM (#998161)

        Or maybe you'd been ass-munching in the public stalls and your nose was jammed full of excrement We'll never know.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2020, @06:20AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2020, @06:20AM (#998377)

          The fact that this was modded 'Interesting' was funnier than your 'slow day on /b/ troll', ass munching indeed...I'll have you know that I'm as pure as the driven yellow snow....

      • (Score: 2) by istartedi on Saturday May 23 2020, @04:42PM (4 children)

        by istartedi (123) on Saturday May 23 2020, @04:42PM (#998178) Journal

        This reminds me of a story related to me by some missionaries, back in my church-going days. They were in India, and had been told not to drink any local water, but to instead drink a bottled beverage called "Limca" or something like that, because it was known to be safe by the leadership. Well, at some point they somehow got lost and/or separated from the group on a hot day. They were in an area where nobody spoke English, and basically getting to the point of either getting dehydrated or taking a chance on local fluids. Finally they found a shop that had Limca, which they had been asking for by simply saying "Limca?" and pointing. The owner reached to the top of a shelf in back, and pulled down two dusty bottles, possibly well past their generally accepted use-by date. These they drank, and survived the ordeal long enough to get re-attached to their group. The story was almost certainly supposed to have some point about how God provides or whatever; but that's lost to me. My imagined scene of these American teenagers running around a crowded Indian city, and the owner producing this elixir will always stick in my mind.

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        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @05:49PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @05:49PM (#998201)
        • (Score: 3, Informative) by captain normal on Saturday May 23 2020, @09:20PM (1 child)

          by captain normal (2205) on Saturday May 23 2020, @09:20PM (#998262)

          I've spent a bit of time in India and in my experience there are very few places where you could not find anyone who spoke English. Granted with an odd British accent that the average American missionary might have trouble comprehending, but still English. Not that I'm doubting your anecdote, but most of the locals I met there told me to avoid the water in certain areas, but drink the beer instead.

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          • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Sunday May 24 2020, @02:34AM

            by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Sunday May 24 2020, @02:34AM (#998330)

            I too have been to India, and you're correct, plenty of the locals speak perfectly good English, but the only thing they want to talk about is cricket.

            I quite enjoy cricket, but for gods sakes, just tell me what time the train leaves, I don't want to reminisce about that time Hadlee took 8/52 at Brisbane.

        • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Sunday May 24 2020, @01:20AM

          by krishnoid (1156) on Sunday May 24 2020, @01:20AM (#998324)

          Limca's kind of like a sharper, tarter version of Sprite. It's a worthwhile choice if you find yourself there and starting to sweat yourself into dehydration, since Gatoradee's unavailable.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @01:50PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @01:50PM (#998141)

      At your typical Indian buffet, the fecal contamination from the food preparation would overwhelm the coronavirus and neutralize it.

      Waiting for the next Trump seminar where he comes up with this "another solution" to the corona virus, after vein-injected bleach and the anti-malaria medicine.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @05:16PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @05:16PM (#998190)

        Waiting for the next Trump seminar where he comes up with this "another solution" to the corona virus, after vein-injected bleach and the anti-malaria medicine.

        Obviously, the solution is to ignore Coronavirus. Coronavirus is just like Democrats, if you ignore it, it will stomp off in a huff, complaining about "human rights," "equality of opportunity," "social contracts" and other bullshit invented by the darkies and their mongrel hangers on -- all of whom should be toiling in the fields or strung up for having the audacity to read and write.

        There's no real danger from Coronavirus as long as you're white, not too old or sick (and those people are just a burden on society anyway) and have two nickels to rub together.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @11:12PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @11:12PM (#998298)

          God's gonna take care of me! [epistle.us]

          There's no real danger from Coronavirus as long as you're white, not too old or sick (and those people are just a burden on society anyway) and have two nickels to rub together.

          And are female

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @11:07PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @11:07PM (#998296)

        Colloidal silver! Why does Trump hate blue people?!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @08:57PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @08:57PM (#998252)

      "We're not racist!" Proceeds to be incredibly racist. Uh huh, mmhmm, ayuuup.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2020, @07:39PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2020, @07:39PM (#998524)

        >The truth is racist

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @01:25PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @01:25PM (#998135)

    They should just build these restaurants out of whatever mythril they build Walmarts out of that keeps the virus from spreading there.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @07:04PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @07:04PM (#998213)

      whatever mythril

      American hero essential workers.

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @01:55PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @01:55PM (#998142)

    For drawing attention to these issues that have spread colds and flu for decades

    Now next on the list:
    Shoe laces - now everyone sees how dirty they are , especially if they come untied
    Public restroom- blow dryers & high speed flush & final dirty door handle you have to touch to leave
    Shaking hands
    Restaurants - shared condiments like catchup, salt, pepper,
    Restaurants- cooks and waiters should always wear masks, even after Coronavirus goes away

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @02:18PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @02:18PM (#998148)
    • (Score: 2) by SomeGuy on Saturday May 23 2020, @02:45PM (2 children)

      by SomeGuy (5632) on Saturday May 23 2020, @02:45PM (#998157)

      Shoe laces - now everyone sees how dirty they are , especially if they come untied

      Finally! After all of these years, my use of Velcro shoes is finally vindicated!

      I could go on a long rant about hand dryers, especially some I saw recently where some nuclear physicist had the - now dirty and corroded - electrical outlets installed right under the unit. What could pooooosssibly go wrong?

      I'll just add to this list:
      ICE/Water dispensers - any that use buttons to start depending, instead of just detecting a cup is present, need to be nuked from orbit. Twice if they have blue LEDs. Even then, they periodically need to be cleaned inside and out.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @03:30PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @03:30PM (#998162)

        Dude it's time to go camping. Anytime you get THAT wound up about hygieme, it's time to go back to nature and remember we live on a giant ball of biological goo. Shit gonna happen.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Immerman on Saturday May 23 2020, @05:04PM

          by Immerman (3985) on Saturday May 23 2020, @05:04PM (#998184)

          Yep. As I recall, microbes outMASS all other life on earth by around 30:1. We're a thin multicellular film drifting on a vast microbial sea, and our bodies are completely dependent on the symbiotic microbes living within them to survive and remain healthy. Something like half the sugars in human milk are completely indigestible to humans - they appear to be present specifically to attract and nurture the microbial symbiotes the baby will need to thrive.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @02:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @02:34PM (#998155)

    The real problem was they were all using their brand new G5E cell phones, which spread this stuff everywhere. If they had just thrown their cell phones in the trash, they would have remained perfectly clean and safe!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @04:37PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2020, @04:37PM (#998174)

    One vomits in a room - then everyone present at the event, will have high chance to have their turn at tossing their cookies for a couple days
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norovirus#Transmission [wikipedia.org]

    As to coronavirus, on the other hand, no one has proven the infectivity of viral particles staying on surfaces. No one case of infection through that route was ever reported, to my or search engine's knowledge.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Jiro on Saturday May 23 2020, @05:05PM

    by Jiro (3176) on Saturday May 23 2020, @05:05PM (#998185)

    This shows that viruses "spread" this way in the sense that you can detect the virus on the place where it "spreads" to.

    Most people are interested in spreading because spreading may lead to disease. They're not interested in spreading for its own sake. The coronavirus doesn't spread (in the sense of leading to disease) through surfaces or food contamination; even the CDC has been saying for a while that surfaces are "not thought to be the main way the virus spreads" [cdc.gov] (of course, no scientific organization will ever say that something has absolutely zero chance of spreading it, it's just very unlikely). They also say there is no evidence to support transmission of COVID-19 associated with food [cdc.gov].

    Also, remember that bacteria can multiply in food, but viruses cannot.

  • (Score: 2) by PinkyGigglebrain on Saturday May 23 2020, @07:59PM

    by PinkyGigglebrain (4458) on Saturday May 23 2020, @07:59PM (#998230)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wPKBpk7wUY [youtube.com]

    and why you should cover your sneezes with your elbow :)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vw0hIs2LEg [youtube.com]

    Sadly I can not find a clip of the second half of the dinner party experiment where Jamie is being responsible and actively takes measures to prevent spreading his "cold"

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  • (Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday May 24 2020, @03:28AM (1 child)

    by Bot (3902) on Sunday May 24 2020, @03:28AM (#998338) Journal

    The guy that coughed into his hands or stroke a dog or performed more unspeakable action was the normality. Around mid november we will witness what widespread sanification and breathing into masks will have done to the population. I'd brace myself for some resistant strain which, contrary to covid, doesn't look like it came out of a lab. The lab is indeed planet earth. Hope to be wrong.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2020, @05:02AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2020, @05:02AM (#998358)

      God's gonna take care of me!

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2020, @09:37PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2020, @09:37PM (#998570)

    Are you enjoying COVID-19, Boomers? I hope you are, because your political response to the pandemic has completely destroyed the economy. Did we really need a Great Recession in 2008 caused by you, and a Great Lockdown in 2020 caused by you? Are you proud of yourselves for creating an economic depression even worse than the Great Depression of the 1930s? Are you proud of yourselves, Boomers? Your legacy will be economic ruin for all. You don't care as long as you Boomers continue to receive your pensions. You Boomers don't have jobs. You Boomers don't create jobs. You Boomers don't do anything for anyone ever. You Boomers are utterly worthless parasites. You don't care about anybody except yourselves. Everybody except you is forced at gunpoint to wear a facemask while you Boomers sit in your giant mansions laughing and waiting to die when you will be buried with your fortunes so nobody will ever touch your precious money.

    Boomers did COVID-19.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 25 2020, @07:50PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 25 2020, @07:50PM (#998918)

      Covid-19 might help create jobs in places like Vietnam, Malaysia or Philippines.

      When bosses and organizations in the USA/Europe/Australia/NZ start getting used to employees working from home. It's not such a big step from there to have employees working from a different country.

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