Two workers, Carlos Gabriel and Jessica Naro, say that they received termination notices from Tesla last week after taking unpaid time off in an effort to avoid the coronavirus. The San Jose Mercury News first reported Gabriel's termination notice last week.
Both workers say that they were contacted this week by Tesla's HR department. Naro was given the opportunity to come back to work if she committed to a return date. She declined because her 6-year-old son has a health condition that puts him at heightened risk.
Gabriel ended his call after the Tesla rep refused to allow him to record it. He hasn't heard back since and believes he is no longer on Tesla's payroll
[...] "If you feel uncomfortable coming back to work at this time, please do not feel obligated to do so," Musk told employees in a May email prior to Tesla re-opening its factory.
[...] In its termination email, which Gabriel shared with the Mercury News, Tesla cited Gabriel's failure to respond to emails and voicemails inquiring when Gabriel would return to work. Gabriel said he didn't feel a need to respond because he had been told he could stay home if he felt unsafe. Gabriel and Naro told The Washington Post that they had both been in regular contact with their managers prior to the termination notices.
Tesla didn't respond to a Thursday email seeking comment for this story.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @01:32AM (3 children)
Tesla: Hey, Latinx employee
Beaner: wot?
Tesla : when u coming to work?
Beaner:
Tesla: No, rly when?
Beaner:
Tesla: You are hereby terminated with cause
Beaner: no problemo, I go work at Mozilla they got quota to fill.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @01:41AM (1 child)
SJW: Hey Anonymous Coward
AC: wot?
SJW: u r racist
AC: and?
SJW: I topple your statue
AC: and?
SJW: I kneel on my knee
AC: and?
SJW: That's all I got ok bye
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @02:58AM
Yet strangely able to make you nutters fling poo and shriek like you never learned bipedal locomotion.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday June 27 2020, @04:13AM
Two workers, living in
Two 1-bedroom apartments, along with
Two-hundred relatives between the two all living in those two apartments.
Looks like they did Tesla a favor skirting their duties. We see a lot of cases in L.A., and the hardest-hit areas of San Diego are of course at or near the Southern border. That is no coincidence. Anyway, they probably applied for unemployment and realized they were making more on it than they were working. Can't blame anybody who does that, really. 'Specially with another round of gibs coming.
Though Trump halted the H1-B nonsense, so engineers and programmers can get back in the workforce and Paco and Yesenia from the article can learn to code and make us some wicked salsas and mole' every Friday.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @01:36AM
This is America.
Are you a Bezzo? No?
Maybe a Buffet? No?
Gates? No?
Then why the fuck are you complaining?
(Score: 2) by mr_bad_influence on Saturday June 27 2020, @01:39AM (12 children)
The Mrs is being pressured to go back to work at the university and I am seriously high risk if I contract corona virus. It looks like it's going to come down to - choose: your job or your husband.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @02:09AM (8 children)
Why?
Why have you fallen for the propaganda? What is in it for you? You are willing to tear your family in two over the fears others have given you? Be a man. Do your job. Take care of your family.
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @02:18AM
Eins, zwei, drei, alle!
Ooooh You cannot reach me now
Ooooh No matter how you try
Goodbye cruel world it's over
Walk on by
Sitting in a bunker here behind my wall
Waiting for the worms to come (Worms to come)
In perfect isolation here behind my wall
Waiting for the worms to come (Worms to come)
"Will the Audience convene at one fifteen, outside Brixton town hall, where
we will be going... "
Waiting to cut out the deadwood
Waiting to clean up the city
Waiting to follow the worms
Waiting to put on a black shirt
Waiting to weed out the weaklings
Waiting to smash in their windows and kick in their doors
Waiting for the final solution to strengthen the strain
Waiting to follow the worms
Waiting to turn on the showers and fire the ovens
Waiting for the queers and the coons and the reds and the Jews
Waiting to follow the worms
Would you like to see Britannia rule again
My friend
All you have to do is follow the worms
Would you like to send
Our coloured cousins
Home again my friend
All you need to do is follow the worms.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @03:01AM (6 children)
Alpha male right here, bet he gets laid 99 times a day.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @03:12AM (5 children)
Be a man means do the right thing by yourself and your family. Threatening to tear your family in two of what some jackass says on the news? Man up boy you have a family. They depend on you. Be a mensch. OR your other option is to let the world trot over you and hope for the best.
(Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @03:54AM (3 children)
That's right boy. Develop your own vaccine. Stop waiting for Mr. Trump to solve your problems.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday June 27 2020, @04:24AM (2 children)
It's no joke. I've seen relationships end because of this, but for another reason: Unlike Mexicans, Americans aren't people who like to live on top of each other 24/7. Even the closest couples need their space, and if you have 2 irritable adults and an irritating kid or 3 all trapped indoors all day, it can be hell for a marriage.
And if you look at the statistics on the news, domestic violence is way up and alcohol consumption has risen 300%. All because Democrat perverts, Jewish Bolsheviks, and Soros-funded Uncle Toms are holding American lives hostage so they can steal the next election.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @05:11AM
That is the opposite of being a man. Grow up take care of your family.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @07:02AM
> And if you look at the statistics on the news, domestic violence is way up and alcohol consumption has risen 300%.
And that's just what you see at your house! Imagine what the real fuckups are doing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @01:15PM
Nope, being a man in America, means sucking it up to make everything work, and preferably making a martyr of yourself in the process. That whole be a man BS is just one of the reasons why being a man tends to suck. You get to do all the work, get very little of the credit, when something dangerous does happen, you're expected to give your life, even as the ungrateful women aren't.
Really, it's about damned time that men were properly compensated for the additional risks, or just refused to take them on. It's the same as those morons that are wanting to take down the statue of Lincoln, the same statute of Lincoln that was paid for by former slaves. Bunch of morons.
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Saturday June 27 2020, @02:36AM
Here's hoping you two have the flexibility to make this choice for yourselves [youtube.com].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @10:09AM (1 child)
Or she should could stay in a hotel.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @01:21PM
Do you have any idea how much people working for universities make? Chances are excellent that living out of a hotel, even a cheap one, would eat through damn near all the income she'd be making.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by tizan on Saturday June 27 2020, @02:12AM (8 children)
US has deep resources...we can keep people well and then look at the productivity in the future.
1) make money now and kill people
2) go into debt and don't kill people and try to recover later economically
guess what they are doing ?
US based companies has a big advantage over other countries the debt in in US dollars...you take a lot of debt and the country economy crashes then your debt is still the same..in many other countries the debt companies and country take is in US dollars and the country economy tanks and the amount you owe or produce in that country economy in the future you cannot pay that debt in dollars.
Big tech companies are getting 0% interest loan effectively from the feds....apart from their hubris of showing they are making profit ....they are killing people for nothing ...as compared to agriculture or other food industries.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @02:14AM (1 child)
Listen. I have no idea what you're saying, but if you're saying that the U.S. Government is subsidizing corporate businesses like the Chinese, then you're wrong!
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @04:21AM
Thanks for clearing that up.
(Score: 1) by anubi on Saturday June 27 2020, @08:13AM (5 children)
The USDollar is the world currency.
And only "The FED" can print them!
For us, the only thing we need to do to pay for stuff is to "vote to extend the debt ceiling".
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @11:14AM (4 children)
No, The Fed is a private bank. If they print extra dollars they own them. Treasury then borrows them for the government to spend, leaving the american people in debt to the rentier owners of The Fed.
(Score: 1) by anubi on Saturday June 27 2020, @12:50PM (1 child)
We are sure running up one helluva debt to a private entity.
Our founders gave their lives to free is from this,.... And what do we do? Let them right back in.
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2020, @08:57AM
The Whiskey Tax and George Washington's march of conscripted men against the rioters in the 'West' (Kentucky or Kansas?) was about making the poor farmers pay an unrepresentative share of the taxes compared to the 'industrial' liquor distillers in the big cities, which thanks to the greater population there were more than willing to throw their mainly subsistence farmer peers under the bus for the benefit of the merchant class.
Long story short, America is exactly the same as it was right after the revolution, as far as the antagonism between the city and country folks go, and both allowing themselves to be fucked over by the merchants and moneyed equivalents of the aristocrats whose yoke we formerly toiled under.
Thank God for America! It's just like the Queen but for those who worship money instead of a wrinkly old white ass.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @01:24PM (1 child)
That's not really true. The money that they "print" belongs to the government. The Federal Reserve bank itself is private, but they do answer to a government appointee.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @04:49PM
no, it's borrowed by the gov and the debt is owed in treasury bonds which is backed by US labor. One little problem: due to fractional reserve banking the debt keeps growing. The scum in DC know this but this is all a racket to bleed the american people dry, collapse the US and have a global plantation until they don't need us at all anymore at which time we will be exterminated. and you're funding it like a dumb fucking slave would.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Subsentient on Saturday June 27 2020, @07:59AM (2 children)
This comment section seriously disappoints me, and that's coming from the living god of trolls.
Musk has chosen his path -- the path of yet another subhuman rich asshole who walks over everyone else.
I had high hopes for him. But, to quote the decidedly low-brow "Disenchantment", hope is for dopes.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Jiddu Krishnamurti
(Score: 2) by Common Joe on Saturday June 27 2020, @08:29AM
There's a saying: If you want to see what a person is really like, give them power.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @01:27PM
Why would Musk be any better? Look at how he got his money, most of it came from being in the right place at the wrong time and benefiting from the work that other people did. He's never been much of an innovator, he mostly makes stupid statements and lets other people make them true.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @09:40AM (1 child)
I'm sure he loves the squatter trailer city and garbage that has sprung up on the street in front of his buildings on 880 heading north in Fremont.
No wealth disparity there.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @12:13PM
Hey, that's where he found his baby mama.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by linkdude64 on Saturday June 27 2020, @10:08AM (4 children)
"When the coronavirus pandemic has ended." That's all he needed to say - surely it is ridiculous for him to presume that he could wait indefinitely to even contact HR at all and still expect them to leave a vacated position at their plant, loading down the workers adjacent to him, and maintaining his file, etc? What if the coronavirus never leaves us and becomes like the flu? Should he be kept on the books for 20 years?
I'm playing devil's advocate, here, but seriously, in this case somebody has to.
(Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Saturday June 27 2020, @02:14PM (3 children)
> surely it is ridiculous for him to presume that he could wait indefinitely to even contact HR at all
I'm not so sure. Maybe he did talk to HR, and they concocted this story that he did not. Maybe HR called and sent him a letter, with the same message and question, and he replied to only one of them, and now they claim he didn't respond.
I could also see them insisting he come up with a date, as if he's supposed to know when the pandemic will end. And, asserting that an answer like you suggest, "when the pandemic has ended", is the same as no response. They want a date, and they will have a date from him, or their hamfisted machinery will tar him with all kinds of black marks, such as, having the wrong kind of attitude, being unreliable, not a team player, blah, blah, blah, any of which are ample justification for termination.
> Should he be kept on the books for 20 years?
The United States should have good health care. Then questions like that would be moot. Employers are one of the worst interest groups who have actively prevented national health care from being created and implemented.
(Score: 2) by Jiro on Saturday June 27 2020, @05:15PM (2 children)
Huh? He left because he was afraid of catching the virus. Having better health care wouldn't help him--the virus doesn't have a cure. There may be some edge case where health care would help him, but I doubt that having some percentage greater chance of getting a ventilator because of better health care would be enough to keep him from being afraid of catching the virus.
(Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Saturday June 27 2020, @07:18PM (1 child)
If we had better health care, this pandemic would have been nipped in the bud. Instead, many of our politicians didn't want to hear about it, or any other bad news such as Global Warming.
In those critical early days when COVID-19 wold have been easy to stop, they tried to ignore it, and worse. They indulged in shooting the messengers. They shut down the very health programs that had been established to deal with this kind of threat. They tried to deny that it was a problem. They want to cut back on testing, because that will make the numbers look better. That's like dealing with being low on gas by taping a picture of the gas gauge needle pointing to 'F' over the real gauge. While they were screwing around in that fashion, things got worse and worse.
They're still at it. They're making workers choose between going to work and risk catching the disease, or staying home and losing their income. There's no good reason for handing workers such a dilemma. Some will choose work, and that will only make the pandemic worse.
It's not Tesla's fault that they and their workers have been put into this position. When a hurricane strikes or other emergency occurs, the government responds with disaster relief. They also find ways to reduce the damage from disaster. Move people out of floodplains, make buildings more wind and earthquake resistant, things like that. This pandemic is an emergency. But it seems that because an epidemic is a rarer kind of emergency, the current leadership just can't roll with it. And so a lot of people are getting hurt.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Sunday June 28 2020, @07:32PM
Today's correct answer.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @04:59PM
The lady with the puny baby has a decision to make. It's unfortunate, but it's not Tesla's problem unless Tesla is the daddy. That's what happens when you're a mom. You have to prioritize your kid. The guy ignoring HR is obviously full of shit. Non story, anti Tesla/Musk hit piece.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @06:09PM (1 child)
https://banned.video/watch?id=5ef66fa2672706002f313194 [banned.video]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @06:29PM
Low IQ insights from Brian Wilson. Short sellers are the likely motivation.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Rupert Pupnick on Saturday June 27 2020, @09:42PM
This is pretty much standard operating procedure for corporations, and hardly unique to Tesla (and I am not a Tesla fan). I once had to take a medical leave of absence from work, and as soon as I had to file for long term disability I was laid off. Unlike the workers in TFA, I received insurance payments, but if you have legitimate risk based health concerns and can’t make an insurance claim, you have to choose between two stark alternatives. It’s not good.
From the company’s point of view, you are holding a position that you cannot fill, and companies are loathe to create an identical “new position”— even if you aren’t getting paid during the leave.
In my case it was a blessing in disguise because the job sucked.