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posted by martyb on Friday July 10 2020, @06:25PM   Printer-friendly
from the join-the-band[width] dept.

T-Mobile has thousands more 5G cities than Verizon and AT&T, Ookla says:

T-Mobile has almost 20 times more 5G cities than AT&T and Verizon combined, according to a new analytics report by Ookla. T-Mobile is sitting on 5,013 cities with 5G -- and that's before adding in the former 5G sites of Sprint after the carrier's $26.5 billion merger with Sprint -- while AT&T has 237 5G cities and Verizon has 39.

Verizon was by far the fastest in speeds, though, charting at a speed score of 870 in comparison to AT&T's 78 and T-Mobile's 64 in Ookla's report.

"Only T-Mobile is doing the hard work to deliver 5G coverage and performance. Sure, it would be easier to deliver blazing speeds in postage stamp-sized areas like Verizon, but our strategy is different," said Neville Ray, president of technology at T-Mobile. "T-Mobile's strategy is built on delivering a meaningful 5G experience people can actually use."

There are now 5,164 cities across the US with 5G, according to Ookla.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by EJ on Friday July 10 2020, @07:11PM (20 children)

    by EJ (2452) on Friday July 10 2020, @07:11PM (#1019192)

    Who gives a crap about 5G? It's stupid. It requires more energy, has a shorter range, is more easily blocked by obstacles, and doesn't offer anything meaningful in the way of performance.

    I'm not going to be using my phone to download 1GB files. I'm not going to be using my phone to streak 4k/8k videos. Everything I care to do with my phone can be done with 4G or less.

    Anyone who thinks the idea of using 5G for their primary home Internet is a good idea is an idiot. Fiber is where it's at. You're not going to beat physical transfer media with wireless. Interference and data leakage is a real problem. There is a reason oceanic cables are a thing.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by TomTheFighter on Friday July 10 2020, @07:22PM (7 children)

      by TomTheFighter (9781) on Friday July 10 2020, @07:22PM (#1019195)

      HA HA HA H AH HA HA OMG !!!!!

      WHO CARES !!!!

      YA HIT "SUBMIT" FIRST !

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by TomTheFighter on Friday July 10 2020, @07:40PM (6 children)

        by TomTheFighter (9781) on Friday July 10 2020, @07:40PM (#1019201)

        Flamebait ?!

        I was serious !

        He really did hit "SUBMIT" first !

        *OMG* FUNNY !!!!!!

        • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by TomTheFighter on Friday July 10 2020, @08:15PM (5 children)

          by TomTheFighter (9781) on Friday July 10 2020, @08:15PM (#1019205)

          Troll ?!

          Jeeze - just trying to inject a little levity ....

          Ok Ok Ok I'll go away.

          • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @08:31PM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @08:31PM (#1019214)

            The atmosphere here is generally serious to angry. There are many exceptions though.

            Keep fighting! :)

            • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @08:58PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @08:58PM (#1019226)

              That sad attempt to dunk on EJ ignores the actual substance of the comment.

              Keep being stupid.

              • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @11:08PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @11:08PM (#1019684)

                You're that same asshole king of stupidity who has brain short circuits. The comment was purely at TomTheFighter. Had NOTHING to do with EJ. But in your scrambled placeholder for a brain everything is connected. Eat shit and bark at the moon.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @04:53AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @04:53AM (#1019732)

                  If you butt into an argument between two assholes, don't be surprised if one poops on you.

          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Saturday July 11 2020, @03:41AM

            by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday July 11 2020, @03:41AM (#1019367) Journal

            Wear the troll mod as a badge of honor. It means you said something that mattered enough to trigger the weak, simple, and intolerant.

            --
            Washington DC delenda est.
    • (Score: 4, Funny) by krishnoid on Friday July 10 2020, @07:32PM (3 children)

      by krishnoid (1156) on Friday July 10 2020, @07:32PM (#1019199)

      Don't forget that 5G also spreads COVID. Not the transmitter near my place, though -- the installer at the time said the one she was putting in had been electronically vaccinated against it; however, they couldn't use that vaccine on people because it causes electro-autism in humans and pet ferrets.

      Someone else who I believe was from my neighborhood was pointing a shotgun at her when she explained it all, so I'm pretty confident she was telling the truth.

      • (Score: 2) by Osamabobama on Friday July 10 2020, @08:44PM (1 child)

        by Osamabobama (5842) on Friday July 10 2020, @08:44PM (#1019218)

        Around here, 5G spreads graffiti, mostly about saving children. To be honest, though, I haven't looked into the wireless protocols supported by the two cell towers in question, but the towers seem to be related to nearby painted slogans.

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        Appended to the end of comments you post. Max: 120 chars.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @08:50PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @08:50PM (#1019220)

          Here in the UK, 5G spreads Marmite

          YMMV

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @08:57PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @08:57PM (#1019225)

        Rumor is that if you invert the antennas it will kill COVID.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by shortscreen on Friday July 10 2020, @10:18PM (3 children)

      by shortscreen (2252) on Friday July 10 2020, @10:18PM (#1019248) Journal

      Fiber is where "it's at." The problem is that fiber is not where "I'm at."

      4G and the cable monopoly are the only options here. 4G is already cheaper but slower and capped. I'm sure it'll be a while before 5G gets here, but by then the cable monopoly will probably have raised prices another 70%, so it could be an easy winner.

      • (Score: 1) by petecox on Saturday July 11 2020, @01:39AM

        by petecox (3228) on Saturday July 11 2020, @01:39AM (#1019319)

        Yeah data caps would prevent me weening off wired broadband in favour of 5G tethering.

        But if the stakes are raised to the point that 50GB/month/handset is as a bare minimum seen as a basic universal human right on the cheapest plan then yeah. c.f. our household wired broadband was previously capped at 100GB/month before the ISP has temporarily suspended the limit.

        I will consider upgrading to 5G when the fans return. When there are towers everywhere, the only time I really notice the limits of current tech in urban environments is when neither stadium WiFi nor 4G data can cope with crowd density in a 100,000 seat venue.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by EJ on Saturday July 11 2020, @01:54AM (1 child)

        by EJ (2452) on Saturday July 11 2020, @01:54AM (#1019325)

        That's an infrastructure problem. All the money wasted on 5G should be put into expanding fiber access.

        • (Score: 1) by petecox on Saturday July 11 2020, @03:03AM

          by petecox (3228) on Saturday July 11 2020, @03:03AM (#1019341)

          The glory of capitalism is that corporations will favour profits over value to customers.

          Just don't repeat the Australian experience. Here the government owns the NBN rollout but it has been politicised. 100mbps is considered 'fast' and although I'm one of the 'lucky' and live in an area where are fresh 2gbps-capable cable was laid under our front lawn, good luck ever seeing that sort of throughput. Due to the maggots in parliament, it's entirely probable 5G will soon exceed home broadband, even if the technologies inevitably rely on the same bandwidth at the backend. Our Luddite political class can get stuffed.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Catalyst on Friday July 10 2020, @10:47PM (1 child)

      by Catalyst (7542) on Friday July 10 2020, @10:47PM (#1019258)

      To be fair, 5G has nothing to do with frequencies... They can blast it at 600mhz and has range and passes through walls just fine. The higher frequency signals are more localized for sure and offer the higher speeds. But yeah, I'm with you on the wires/fiber is better part.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @11:38PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @11:38PM (#1019269)

        Yep. Just the slight improvements to the modulation algorithm should make 5g better than 4g at the same frequency. Wireless communications is a field where the theory is very mature and manufacturing ability is the limiting factor, so the steady incremental improvements are all relatively underwhelming.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @12:40AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @12:40AM (#1019289)

      It also allows finer grained tracking due to higher density of towers.

    • (Score: 2) by epitaxial on Saturday July 11 2020, @12:45AM

      by epitaxial (3165) on Saturday July 11 2020, @12:45AM (#1019291)

      Just because you're short sighted doesn't mean anyone else is.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @08:23PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @08:23PM (#1019207)

    So what is ookla? Is that like the state between bran and tapioca pudding?

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @09:11PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @09:11PM (#1019232)

    My grandmother was baking some cookies when her Ookla ookled. She ignored it, and next thing you know her cookies were cookled.

  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by legont on Friday July 10 2020, @10:01PM (6 children)

    by legont (4179) on Friday July 10 2020, @10:01PM (#1019244)

    Given the viruses and permanent marauds, clients are not expected to be in the cities any time soon if ever. High population density is gone from our lives; able to spend population at least. Ghettos don't need 5G.

    --
    "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @11:41PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @11:41PM (#1019271)

      You should be ashamed that the ghettos exist, rather than judging the people in them. Your "let them eat cake" attitude is disgusting.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @01:00AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @01:00AM (#1019297)

        Yeah! Fuck the white man. #BLM

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @01:14AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @01:14AM (#1019309)

          Are all Trump trolls so dumb?

      • (Score: 2) by legont on Sunday July 12 2020, @02:35PM

        by legont (4179) on Sunday July 12 2020, @02:35PM (#1019842)

        Look, bro, let's put the record straight. I love the island on Manhattan and spent 25 years in NYC and left because a few years after 9/11 I anticipated the shit we are in. But that's just lyrics.
        The sad truth is that people whose life does matter left the island. They currently all in their summer and family houses. They don't need to go back as they can function in said houses for a very long time. Whoever are still on the island - mostly they don't matter at all and color of the skin or political views have nothing to do with it. Their first priority now should be to get people who matters back. Otherwise people who do not matter will all die one way or another, but mostly from sickness, famine, and exterminating each other.
        No, you will not be able to build your paradise. Even if socialism were possible, you still need people who matters to build it. So, get over it. It's enough.

        --
        "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
    • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Sunday July 12 2020, @06:59AM (1 child)

      by krishnoid (1156) on Sunday July 12 2020, @06:59AM (#1019768)

      Ghettos would likely benefit more from high-speed cell phone data, than wired Internet that puts you on the laptop/desktop capital-outlay/upgrade/theft/backup treadmill.

      • (Score: 2) by legont on Sunday July 12 2020, @02:22PM

        by legont (4179) on Sunday July 12 2020, @02:22PM (#1019840)

        Actually, yes, very true.

        --
        "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @01:03AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @01:03AM (#1019299)

    I'm astonished some authority thinks there are "5,164 cities across the US". That averages to over 100 for each of the 50 states. Yet Wikipedia lists less than 400 localities with more than 100,000 people.

    City, schmitty. In my variety of English, we'd call them towns.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @10:13AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 11 2020, @10:13AM (#1019450)

      Who said it was US cities?

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