from the ♪I-know-a-bay-where-they-don't-ask-for-ID♪
♪Yo-ho,-yo-ho,-a-pirate's-life-for-me♪ dept.
The French Parliament unanimously agreed on Thursday to introduce a nationwide age verification system for pornography websites, months after President Emmanuel Macron pledged to protect children against such content.
Macron made the protection of children against adult content online a high-profile issue well before the coronavirus crisis hit. In January, tech companies, internet services providers and the adult movies industry signed a voluntary charter, pledging to roll out tools to help ensure minors don't have access to pornographic content.
Within a broader law on domestic violence, the Senate decided in June to introduce an amendment requiring pornography websites to implement an age verification mechanism.
In order to enforce the law, the French audiovisual regulator CSA will be granted new powers to audit and sanction companies that do not comply — sanctions could go as far as blocking access to the websites in France with a court order.
The choice of verification mechanisms will be left up to the platforms. But lawmakers have suggested using credit card verification — a system first adopted by the U.K., which mulled similar plans to control access to pornography but had to drop them in late 2019 because of technical difficulties and privacy concerns. Italy also approved a similar bill in late June, which raised the same concerns over its feasibility and compliance with the EU laws.
[...] The Senate has already voted on the bill. Following an agreement today between senators and lawmakers from the lower house National Assembly, a final vote will be held again in the Senate where the bill is expected to pass.
(Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @06:00PM (12 children)
If children can't get porn freely on the Internet, they're going to have to buy it from seedy Muslim vendors on the street.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday July 12 2020, @06:48PM (3 children)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H28ZoZrKCzI [youtube.com]
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(Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday July 12 2020, @06:55PM (2 children)
Jango Index [jango-index.ml]
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2020, @03:59AM (1 child)
Anal Cunt [jango-index.ml]
(Score: 2) by takyon on Monday July 13 2020, @04:10AM
http://jango-index.ml/?song=Chain+Hang+Low [jango-index.ml]
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(Score: 2) by Opportunist on Sunday July 12 2020, @08:06PM (4 children)
Muslims? Porn? Please.
But hey, buddy, wanna see some porn? I have some, here, in my van...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @10:18PM (3 children)
Contrary to popular belief, Muslims like to have sex. They even know how to lure kids into vans, as seen in Rochdale, Rotherham, Paris...
(Score: 2) by Opportunist on Sunday July 12 2020, @10:26PM
Sure they do, I'm also pretty certain that it's just like over here, the ones that claim the loudest that they don't even know how smut is spelled are the ones with the sickest and weirdest fetishes.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @11:49PM (1 child)
Yes, we're well aware that the promise of 72 virgins when they get to heaven is what motivates most Muslims to get up in the morning and strap on their suicide vest. Amusingly, these jihadis don't realize that women with some experience are often more satisfying than virgins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2020, @03:53AM
Sure they do. They just don't want to pay.
It is far easier to douse an 11 year old in petrol and threaten to harm her family unless she complies with their demands to provide sexual services.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday July 13 2020, @06:17AM (2 children)
So is it only Muslims who deal in porn in your skewed world?
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday July 13 2020, @02:12PM
Should Priests be included?
Just asking for a friend.
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(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2020, @07:38PM
The Jews own most of the porn sites. That's why you have so much anti-white propaganda on porn sites, and sites dedicated to the cause; like the Jew owned Blacked.com.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by RandomFactor on Sunday July 12 2020, @06:08PM (6 children)
Same issue as in earlier attempts.
A lot of folks that don't mind giving them clicks and eyeballs on ads will hard pass on providing their credit card 'for verification'
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @06:20PM (1 child)
(Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Sunday July 12 2020, @06:25PM
They are forgetting a fundamental principle of the internet - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJvdGcb7Fs [youtube.com]
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @06:21PM (3 children)
Not to mention that foreign websites might opt to just not serve French visitors or turn a blind eye if they opt to use a VPN to access the service.
(Score: 2) by Booga1 on Sunday July 12 2020, @06:29PM (2 children)
Clearly the best answer to all this is to get a VPN.
Get a connection that won't hassle you to access stuff. Then you won't have to continuously verify your age, sign up for more accounts, or give your credit card to every site with boobies on it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @07:07PM (1 child)
The IT security and police are going to be stumped, when soon pretty much all internet traffic is "originating" from some Zimbabwe, because of all these morons and their "firewalls".
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Sunday July 12 2020, @07:48PM
Nah, they don't need to send their traffic through Zimbabwe. This is France we're talking about: Switzerland is literally adjacent to them. It's basically a free-for-all there.
(Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @07:04PM
From now on, it is only lawful to get fucked by the government.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @07:22PM (20 children)
Did anyone ask the children if they wanted to be protected against such content?
I'm an old coot, but I remember that my goal as an 11 year old boy was to find and consume as much "adult content" as I could possibly locate. Which back then meant buying individual pages of Playboy (not the articles) for 25 cents a page from an aspiring entrepreneur in our junior high school. (Centerfolds were a dollar.) Sadly our supplier was busted when his father found out what his son was cutting out of the father's "collection".
I could go on with anecdotes, but the point is that whatever obstacles those ancient Gallic fuddy-duddies put in their way, I am certain the youth of France will find a way to access all the "adult content" they want.
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Sunday July 12 2020, @07:51PM (8 children)
Did anyone ask the children if they wanted to be protected against such content?
Children have no voice in a democratic society; no one cares what they think. It's up to voters, who are their parents and people of similar or older ages. And apparently French adults don't want children seeing any porn (which is weird to me; I thought continental Europe was supposed to be a little less Puritan about sex than America).
I am certain the youth of France will find a way to access all the "adult content" they want.
Most parents and older people are too clueless to know what a VPN is.
(Score: 2) by Opportunist on Sunday July 12 2020, @08:10PM
Well, sure as hell the geriatrics in the parliaments around the globe don't know what a VPN is.
And could we please leave it at that? As long as they think they're in charge, and we pretend that they are, they are mostly a minor nuisance but not really a problem.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday July 12 2020, @09:22PM (4 children)
But, have you seen "made in France for the French market fetish porn"? That's what they're trying to protect the children from, most of them don't understand what makes their own countrymen and women do some of the things they appear to enjoy...
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2) by Opportunist on Sunday July 12 2020, @10:28PM (3 children)
To be honest, I don't know any French porn. Then again, I highly doubt that dialogue is the key element, I mean, has anyone watched Baywatch with sound as a kid? But if they're like the rest of their movies, I can only agree that the world should be kept safe from them.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday July 12 2020, @10:32PM
Baywatch is very popular in Europe, particularly Germany... for the obvious reasons.
I was kidding about the French porn, but as you say, the rest of their cultural output makes Woody Allen look positively normal...
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Monday July 13 2020, @07:10PM
There is one historic figure from France who was infamous for his sick sexual life: the Marquis de Sade.
You've made it big when languages get a new word based on your name, with the definition of course based on the most notorious thing for which you were known.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2020, @05:41AM
You don't know Brigette Lahai? Being a pornstar in france doesn't carry as much stigma as it does in most countries - half the french population has done porn if I had to guess.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @09:40PM
Yes, seeing simple naked body parts. It's a different thing when it comes to your children watching shit or piss porn, or ethnic Arab kids picking up slut vocabulary from pornos and hurling it at respectable Frenchwomen on the street.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2020, @07:41PM
they're scared that if french youth watch modern porn all the french adults will have to take a dog trimmer to their waving pussy and dick manes!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Opportunist on Sunday July 12 2020, @08:08PM
Get with the times, nobody asks the people who get "protected" whether they have any interest to be protected.
What matters is how it makes you feel, not how it affects those you pretend to protect.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday July 12 2020, @08:51PM
Did you mean Gallic, or did you mean phallic? Funny that those words sound so much alike . . .
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Sunday July 12 2020, @09:48PM (4 children)
Of course they will. These stupid laws are not about stopping kids from seeing boobs, they're about "doing something".
As in "something must be done".
(Score: 4, Touché) by Opportunist on Sunday July 12 2020, @10:30PM
Damn straight, boobies are not for little kids!
(Score: 2) by VLM on Monday July 13 2020, @12:38PM (2 children)
Doesn't France have beaches with boobs?
I mean, the legacy population is being rapidly and intentionally replaced with burka wearers so maybe not anymore, but used to be able to see boobs in France?
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday July 13 2020, @08:57PM
I'm not sure when you were last in France, but I can assure that is far from the case.
Parts of Paris might have a large Muslim community, but that is quite a long way from any beaches.
And yes, boobs are often on display in many parts of Europe.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2020, @05:44AM
You live in a fantasy world. French are one of the most racist people in Europe. If you are from literally any other European country the French will literally physically harass you once you are out of Paris. Ask anybody.
Seriously, you have 0 knowledge of world outside of the USA.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Monday July 13 2020, @12:54AM
They aren't really trying to protect children. They're really trying to protect parents from the thought that their precious child could be wanking in their bedroom right now.
They also seem to think that if kids can't get access to porn, they won't be trying to get off somehow. And if it's not by wanking to porn, it will probably be experimenting more with their friends, forming intimate partnerships with someone, and/or just using their imaginations and wanking to that. Because that's what people do when they're post-puberty and horny.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2020, @07:47AM
I see things somewhat more maliciously here. This has nothing to do with kids. This is about power and surveillance. It will now give the French government substantial power to 'investigate' potentially offending companies as well as large amounts of potentially embarrassing information on their population. Knowing that e.g. Emanuel Macron chose to 'verify' his browsing at GayTrannyDwarves.com is something that could, at any time, be used against him in a variety of ways.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2020, @07:54AM
It has to be "bad". That's how the game is played. That's why a few pages of adult content on the jr. high black market cost as much as the whole magazine when I was that age. The book store had all that stuff in a hard to reach place, with a picture of the Emperor from Star Wars with the lightning bolts coming out of his fingers warning any would-be "young skywalkers" not to trifle with such things. Careless dads were probably an easier source.
A little later on, when I started driving, I found one of my dad's mags.
I had just started driving, and was being conscientious so of course I checked the spare tire. That's where it was hidden--under the spar. So at dinner I brought up how I was being a very careful driver and taking good care of the car, and mentioned casually how I had even checked the pressure in the spare. The next day I checked it again and the mag was gone. I had no interest in sharing *that* with my dad. He didn't say a word about it. Mom had no clue. It was just a father and son, talking about cars.
And that's how it's done...
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday July 13 2020, @02:16PM
You seem to be unaware, or want to ignore that one of the major goals of Western society is to protect children from ever finding out about sex. About how their bodies work. About where children come from. (The stork brings them.) About how pregnancy happens.
Especially during adolescence, this is important. They should not understand what is happening to them.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @08:04PM
Russia's web censorship started just like this; first "think of the children!11", then "the eeevil pirates!11", then downhill it went. European friends of Mr. Putin are now adopting the proven technique.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @08:14PM (2 children)
– Show me your penis to prove you are adult.
– But I'm a woman.
– All say that, sir. Penis, please.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @08:48PM (1 child)
Nobody wants to look at your penis. Stop trying to txt me.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @10:49PM
Why do you hate transsexuals? You bigot.
(Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @09:02PM (1 child)
I applaud France's decision to implement age verification in porn... there are far too many actresses over 25 years old pretending to be teensy teens.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Monday July 13 2020, @12:37PM
Teen on reddit means "not saggy" not teensy as in petite, interesting linguistic drift.
Speaking of Reddit this shows their strategy. Its 95% pr0n site and 5% hateful violent SJW haven which means its immune to these type of regulations.
I wonder how much a UPI news feed costs to pornhub into a "legitimate news site that occasionally hosts nsfw content".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @09:03PM
or have they taken that away too?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2020, @01:11AM (2 children)
Why should they watch someone else?
Get the neighbors daughter and have at it!
Tbis starts up and I guarantee you they will happily bring back the dry lab and try to get the kids back on it.
Especially the neighbors daughters dads!
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2020, @04:00AM
Muslims already moved into France. They have the local neighbourhood girls all tied up. Nothing left for the local lads until they get too old or worn out. There are always more coming but waiting until they turn eight can be lonesome. Happily there are many boys running around French streets looking for adventure
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2020, @04:04AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal [wikipedia.org]
already done in england
also in many other places
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2020, @03:43AM
Why not require that porn-sites be properly meta-marked as porn? Then parents can set a lock on their children's devices. Yes, some vendors will lie and cheat, but that will happen under the current law also.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2020, @04:11AM
We know what happens in countries that suppress sexual relief venues [nytimes.com]
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday July 13 2020, @02:18PM (1 child)
Have we forgotten this important bit in TCP/IP?
Why not also designate a pr0n bit for packets?
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2020, @09:46PM
This is the internet, a not-pr0n bit would make much more sense.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday July 13 2020, @02:46PM
It's yet another tedious law designed to make criminals of as many people as possible so the state always has something to arrest them for, should they feel the need.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.