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posted by martyb on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:07PM   Printer-friendly
from the "parts-is-parts"-(y_oem9BqUTI) dept.

KFC is working with a Russian 3D bioprinting firm to try to make lab-produced chicken nuggets:

KFC is trying to create the world’s first laboratory-produced chicken nuggets, part of its “restaurant of the future” concept, the company announced. The chicken restaurant chain will work with Russian company 3D Bioprinting Solutions to develop bioprinting technology that will “print” chicken meat, using chicken cells and plant material.

KFC plans to provide the bioprinting firm with ingredients like breading and spices “to achieve the signature KFC taste” and will seek to replicate the taste and texture of genuine chicken.

It’s worth noting that the bioprinting process KFC describes uses animal material, so any nuggets it produced wouldn’t be vegetarian. KFC does offer a vegetarian option at some of its restaurants; last year it became the first US fast-food chain to test out Beyond Meat’s plant-based chicken product, which it plans to roll out to more of its locations this summer.

Bioprinted nuggets would be more environmentally friendly to produce than standard chicken meat, KFC says, citing (but not linking to) a study by the American Environmental Science and Technology Journal it says shows the benefits of growing meat from cells, including reductions in greenhouse gas emissions and energy consumption compared to traditional farming methods.


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Splashy headlines have long overshadowed inconvenient truths about biology and economics. Now, extensive new research suggests the industry may be on a billion-dollar crash course with reality.

[...] [In March], the Good Food Institute (GFI), a nonprofit that represents the alternative protein industry, published a techno-economic analysis (TEA) that projected the future costs of producing a kilogram of cell-cultured meat. Prepared independently for GFI by the research consulting firm CE Delft, and using proprietary data provided under NDA by 15 private companies, the document showed how addressing a series of technical and economic barriers could lower the production price from over $10,000 per pound today to about $2.50 per pound over the next nine years—an astonishing 4,000-fold reduction.

In the press push that followed, GFI claimed victory. "New studies show cultivated meat can have massive environmental benefits and be cost-competitive by 2030," it trumpeted, suggesting that a new era of cheap, accessible cultured protein is rapidly approaching. The finding is critical for GFI and its allies. If private, philanthropic, and public sector investors are going to put money into cell-cultured meat, costs need to come down quickly. Most of us have a limited appetite for 50-dollar lab-grown chicken nuggets.

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  • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:13PM (15 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:13PM (#1023846)

    First we torture the chickens, then we kill them... now we're going to chop their carcasses into filament and extrude them into nuggets? How the fuck is that more environmentally friendly than just using standard chicken meat?

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:16PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:16PM (#1023849)

      As a Democrat, you'd probably prefer to hire a civil servant to deep fry the chickens with subsidized solar power.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by PartTimeZombie on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:49PM (5 children)

        by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:49PM (#1023859)

        As a Republican, he would rather an armoured division deep fried the chickens in someone else's country.

        • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:53PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:53PM (#1023861)

          As a communist, he'd prefer they be deep fried by political prisoners in a work camp.

          • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @12:00AM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @12:00AM (#1023863)

            I thought the second amendment allowed you to shoot poultry directly overhead.

            *ducks* (I mean chickens)

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:39AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:39AM (#1023911)

              Is that a fowl shot?

              • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Monday July 20 2020, @03:08AM

                by RS3 (6367) on Monday July 20 2020, @03:08AM (#1023952)

                That was a fowl joke.

        • (Score: 4, Funny) by c0lo on Monday July 20 2020, @12:08AM

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 20 2020, @12:08AM (#1023866) Journal

          In Soviet Russia, the chicken deep fries you.

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    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by takyon on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:36PM (7 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:36PM (#1023854) Journal

      The article implies that lab-grown cells are used, not live chickens.

      With the lab-grown hamburger experiment, fetal bovine serum was used. That part may need to be phased out for future efforts to claim "no animal suffering".

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @12:59AM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @12:59AM (#1023886)

        How do you get fatal bovine serum? Jack off the bull? I can see where that might be fatal . . .

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:11AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:11AM (#1023895)

          Fatal for whom?

        • (Score: 5, Informative) by takyon on Monday July 20 2020, @01:12AM (4 children)

          by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday July 20 2020, @01:12AM (#1023898) Journal

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum [wikipedia.org]

          Fetal bovine serum (FBS) comes from the blood drawn from a bovine fetus via a closed system of collection at the slaughterhouse. Fetal bovine serum is the most widely used serum-supplement for the in vitro cell culture of eukaryotic cells. This is due to it having a very low level of antibodies and containing more growth factors, allowing for versatility in many different cell culture applications.

          The globular protein, bovine serum albumin (BSA), is a major component of fetal bovine serum. The rich variety of proteins in fetal bovine serum maintains cultured cells in a medium in which they can survive, grow, and divide.

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          • (Score: 2) by zeigerpuppy on Monday July 20 2020, @11:09AM (3 children)

            by zeigerpuppy (1298) on Monday July 20 2020, @11:09AM (#1024036)

            From the same Wikipedia article:

            The first stage of the production process for fetal bovine serum is the harvesting of blood from the bovine fetus after the fetus is removed from the slaughtered cow. The blood is collected aseptically into a sterile container or blood bag and then allowed to clot. The normal method of collection is cardiac puncture, wherein a needle is inserted into the heart. This minimizes "the danger of serum contamination with micro-organisms from the fetus itself, and the environment".[6]

            So unborn calf blood...
            Interesting that it has some special characteristics that are not replicated by serum-free culture medium.

            • (Score: 3, Informative) by zeigerpuppy on Monday July 20 2020, @11:21AM (2 children)

              by zeigerpuppy (1298) on Monday July 20 2020, @11:21AM (#1024041)

              So it's a lot less pretty the more you read.
              About 1 million calves per year are drained of blood while they are still alive. I can understand that this is probably something we should be thinking of phasing out... definitely doesn't sound vegan (vampiric would probably be more accurate)...

              Here's a more detailed description from van der Valk (2003) - (behind paywall)
              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14630056/ [nih.gov]

              2. The welfare of fetal calves during blood (serum) collection

              Collection of fetal calf blood (serum) occurs in some meat processing plants after the pregnant uterus has been removed from the slaughtered cow at the evisceration stage, which in different countries occurs at different times after the neck cut of the dam. It can occur as early as 5 min or as long as 25–40 min or more after slaughter of the cow (Jochems et al., 2002, Mellor & Gregory, 2003). Blood collection methods involve significant manipulation of the fetus, which in some cases may be suspended from an A-frame with application of an external device that simulates the pumping action of the heart while blood is drained from catheterised umbilical vessels, or the methods may be more invasive, involving insertion of a 12–16 gauge needle between the 4th and 5th rib into the fetal heart. Whatever the method used, if the fetus were to be aware (conscious) during the conduct of such procedures there is potential for it to experience significant pain and/or distress. This raises the issue of whether the fetus is likely to be aware, and if it is, what safeguards could be put in place to minimise any suffering it might experience during the blood collection procedure.

              • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Monday July 20 2020, @12:56PM

                by acid andy (1683) on Monday July 20 2020, @12:56PM (#1024070) Homepage Journal

                My God, that's horrendous. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised though.

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              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @06:25PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @06:25PM (#1024193)

                "This raises the issue of whether the fetus is likely to be aware, and if it is, what safeguards could be put in place to minimise any suffering it might experience during the blood collection procedure."

                uhh, no. just fucking stop it, you dumb fucks.

  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:13PM (13 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:13PM (#1023847) Journal

    I would prefer it over the plant based stuff

    Seems to be pretty slow to hit the market though. Is the livestock industry slowing it down?

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:47PM (12 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:47PM (#1023858) Journal

      U.S. Cattlemen's Association Wants an Official Definition of "Meat" [soylentnews.org]
      Regulation Coming to Lab-Grown Meat [soylentnews.org]
      Mississippi Bans Calling Plant and Cultured-Meat Patties 'Burgers' [soylentnews.org]
      Meat Industry PR Campaign Bashes Plant-Based Meat Alternatives [soylentnews.org]

      Fake-meat fans have beef with Big Meat for trying to cut into plant-based market [arstechnica.com]

      I think their biggest beef is with the plant-based meat alternatives. And the response has been to try to get regulators to restrict what can be called "meat" while pushing their own generic-looking plant-based meat alternatives to compete with the likes of Impossible Foods and Beyond Meat. I see 4-5 kinds at the supermarket now.

      Cultured aka lab-grown meat will probably be embraced by the cattle industry at some point, if it can be used to lower their costs. It won't destroy the cattle industry anytime soon because of the bioprinting part. More on that later.

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      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by PartTimeZombie on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:54PM (10 children)

        by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:54PM (#1023862)

        Cultured aka lab-grown meat will probably be embraced by the cattle industry at some point, if it can be used to lower their costs.

        I am picturing the meat being grown in warehouse type buildings, which would remove the need for farms or ranches completely, wouldn't it?

        I may be missing something, but it seems to me lab-grown meat could be the end of animal farming altogether.

        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday July 20 2020, @12:14AM (4 children)

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday July 20 2020, @12:14AM (#1023869) Journal

          I may be missing something, but it seems to me lab-grown meat could be the end of animal farming altogether.

          That's what I'm counting on. We could all have counter top incubators, or at least a unit in the basement. And lab grown is real meat, the same meat that the ManBearPig produces, so these lawsuits by the industry are totally frivolous. Unfortunately... money, plenty of corrupt judges to hear these cases

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          • (Score: 3, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Monday July 20 2020, @01:02AM (1 child)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 20 2020, @01:02AM (#1023887) Journal

            or at least a unit in the basement.

            That is just sick, man. You're going to grow your meat in the basement - where you might expect to find rats, roaches, and other unsavory pests. And, FFS, some woman's millenial son!

            I'll stick with beef on the hoof, thank you. I'm not eating millenials.

            • (Score: 2) by zeigerpuppy on Monday July 20 2020, @11:23AM

              by zeigerpuppy (1298) on Monday July 20 2020, @11:23AM (#1024042)

              A: I don't eat humans!

              B: Why?

              C: Because it's so hard to find them free-range...

          • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday July 20 2020, @01:20AM (1 child)

            by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Monday July 20 2020, @01:20AM (#1023900)

            Unfortunately... money, plenty of corrupt judges to hear these cases.

            Farmers the world over seem to be very good at getting taxpayers to fund their businesses.
            I have no doubt if it looks like lab-grown meat is going to put them out of business they'll find some way of getting paid.

            • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday July 20 2020, @01:38PM

              by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 20 2020, @01:38PM (#1024094) Journal

              It's not the farmers, it's the agricultural corporations. And that's a very different animal...if animal it be.

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        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by takyon on Monday July 20 2020, @12:22AM (4 children)

          by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday July 20 2020, @12:22AM (#1023873) Journal

          You might be able to distribute the buildings in or near all cities. Less travel time to get to the customers, less fuel costs, less pollution.

          You will still have animal farming on a smaller scale, catering mostly to rich customers. There will still be Kobe beef, Amish-sold products, etc. But the 50 billion hamburgers that Americans eat annually will mostly come from lab-grown meat. All of the veal at the supermarket will be cruelty-free, and so on.

          If milk, eggs, etc. can also be replicated with a lab process, then we just won't see animal slaughter on the scale we see today.

          In the short term, products made of ground meat will go lab-grown first, since it will be much easier to make those than say, a t-bone steak.

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          • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday July 20 2020, @01:45PM (3 children)

            by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 20 2020, @01:45PM (#1024103) Journal

            I think you need to read "Caves of Steel" again, and this time notice the food supply. This would be a lot better than yeast, but it's the same idea. The traditional SF name for it is carniculture. (It dates back at least to "End of the Line" from the early 1950's, "Methuselah's Children" is the Heinlein take on it.) But I said "Caves of Steel" because of the implications that only human life was at all common. Everything else had been pushed aside to make room for more people.

            That said, if they can fix the "beef serum" problem, this might be a good food source on an off-Earth installation. They've got a few problems to solve first, of course.

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            • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday July 20 2020, @07:56PM (2 children)

              by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday July 20 2020, @07:56PM (#1024237) Journal

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_meat#Production_in_Earth's_orbit [wikipedia.org]

              In 2019, meat was successfully cultured in space for the first time. Through Aleph Farms, meat was grown on the International Space Station, 248 miles (399 km) above the Earth, away from any natural resources.

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              • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Tuesday July 21 2020, @12:24AM (1 child)

                by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 21 2020, @12:24AM (#1024348) Journal

                Yes, it *does* say that. But the claim is a bit ... overstated, at least by inference. They had to have brought all the supplies needed to grow the stuff, and those supplies could have included nearly anything. Also, astronauts have to be able to eat nearly anything edible, regardless of taste or texture.

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      • (Score: 3, Funny) by ilPapa on Monday July 20 2020, @02:14AM

        by ilPapa (2366) on Monday July 20 2020, @02:14AM (#1023931) Journal

        I think their biggest beef is with the...

        I see what you did there.

        Well done.

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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:14PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:14PM (#1023848)

    I'm with Werner Herzog [vimeo.com] on this one.

    Probably the only creatures more stupid than chickens are wokes, perhaps a fast food chain could repurpose them into soylent slices and then the mission of this site will be complete?

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Opportunist on Monday July 20 2020, @06:18AM (2 children)

      by Opportunist (5545) on Monday July 20 2020, @06:18AM (#1023993)

      I've even got the slogan: Wokes. The other white meat.

      It's worth it, if just to see the BLM guys go ballistic.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @09:43AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @09:43AM (#1024017)

        Peacefully ballistic - when you point out they're appropriating ideological blackface.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by acid andy on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:24PM (1 child)

    by acid andy (1683) on Sunday July 19 2020, @11:24PM (#1023852) Homepage Journal

    the bioprinting process KFC describes uses animal material, so any nuggets it produced wouldn’t be vegetarian. KFC does offer a vegetarian option at some of its restaurants

    I'll say this in case no-one else does. If you're veggie or even if you care even slightly about animal welfare, I'd give it a miss. Vegetarian option or not, you'd still be funding (albeit perhaps indirectly) some of the most brutal factory farming on a vast scale. Factory poultry farms often debeak their chicks and the animals may be fed growth hormones and often have so little space that they will pluck out their own feathers from the stress.

    On Wikipedia, with a citation from 2011, it does however say that:

    KFC Canada, which signed an agreement pledging to only use "animal friendly" suppliers

    Of course to what degree that pledge has been followed and what precisely is meant by "animal friendly" remains to be seen.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Mykl on Monday July 20 2020, @02:54AM

      by Mykl (1112) on Monday July 20 2020, @02:54AM (#1023946)

      An alternative perspective.

      If nobody tries KFC's new "Less cruel" alternatives, then they will deem them a commercial failure and go back to de-beaking and roiding up baby chickens.

      I think it's encouraging that KFC is looking to move beyond farming. At the moment, this still requires the input of actual animal product, but I can see a future not too far off where the entire thing can be sustained without any living animal involvement (even if the original cells did come from animals). Once the lab-grown meat has the same intelligence as, say, yeast, it could be considered functionally identical.

  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday July 20 2020, @12:07AM (12 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday July 20 2020, @12:07AM (#1023865) Journal

    I don't remember trying KFC chicken nuggets. I know they have popcorn chicken that is a little bit of chicken and a ton of breading.

    They seem to want to replace bite-sized chunks of 100% breast meat with bioprinted cultured meat. So if you tear it apart, it is stringy on the inside just like whole pieces of chicken you cook yourself. This is harder to do than what McDonald's, Taco Bell, et al. would need to do to replace various forms of "pink slime" used in extruded chicken nuggets, hamburger patties, or ground taco meat. In their cases, they could use pure muscle cell strands in a slurry, and end up with a higher quality product than what they had before. Filler would likely be added, but it could be made of plants instead of trimmings, beaks, eyeballs, or whatever.

    Replacing a slurry doesn't require "bioprinting" beyond the initial process that grows tiny strands of beef and chicken cells. Creating a cultured steak or something would require some kind of bioprinting, with fat cells for marbling and maybe even printed bone. That could end up being an order of magnitude more difficult, time-consuming, and expensive.

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    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday July 20 2020, @12:22AM (8 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 20 2020, @12:22AM (#1023872) Journal

      They seem to want to replace bite-sized chunks of 100% breast meat with bioprinted cultured meat.

      Those "100% breast meat" are actually scraps of meat from any places, bound together with meat glue. Citation [wikipedia.org]

      Examples of foods made using meat glue include imitation crab meat, fish balls, and Chicken Nuggets.[1] [chicagotribune.com]

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      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday July 20 2020, @12:33AM (7 children)

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday July 20 2020, @12:33AM (#1023878) Journal

        That's not correct. I am differentiating between this [wikimedia.org] and this [chick-fil-a.com], for example. The first product is made of pink slime, meat glue, or whatever, and the second is bite-sized chunks of boneless meat. But they are both referred to as chicken nuggets.

        I don't know what specific menu item KFC is trying to replace because I haven't eaten there in years. I know they have been serving more boneless chicken in recent years (their main product has always been fried chicken on-the-bone).

        The Verge article says they are using "bioprinting" to create "replicate the taste and texture of genuine chicken". If their existing nuggets were made of scraps and meat glue like the McDonald's ones are, they wouldn't need to do that.

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        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by anubi on Monday July 20 2020, @01:57AM (6 children)

          by anubi (2828) on Monday July 20 2020, @01:57AM (#1023920) Journal

          I bought some cheap cat food for my cat at one of these discount stores. 100% chicken according to the label.

          Got it home and Lady ( my cat) took one bite, dropped it back, and looked back at me in the strangest way, as if I had offered her a can of beans.

          I let it sit there for a about a week to see if any of the other neighborhood animals were interested. No takers. It dried in the can.

          Curious, I dumped the dried contents on my worm bed and broke it up with a spade; give it to the worms. Mulch it.

          Then I discovered why no one would eat it.

          The can was somewhat accurately labeled. It was 100% chicken. Feathers! When all pureed and sopping wet, it looked and smelled like something a cat would eat. But when dried, the telltale structure of feathers emerged.

          I was glad I had only bought six cans. The other five went directly to compost.

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          • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday July 20 2020, @02:09AM (5 children)

            by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday July 20 2020, @02:09AM (#1023925) Journal

            What point are you trying to make? I have described something that clearly exists, even at some fast food joints. There is a clear difference in quality.

            KFC's bioprinted nuggets won't even be 100% chicken since it says that "plant material" will be included.

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            • (Score: 1) by anubi on Monday July 20 2020, @08:03AM (4 children)

              by anubi (2828) on Monday July 20 2020, @08:03AM (#1024008) Journal

              This thread brought back a memory of my offering my cat fake food, and remembering how and why it happened made me laugh. I remembered thinking 100% chicken. Didn't dawn on me about feathers are also 100% chicken. OK, my cat got something that gave the appearance of being cat food, as I may get something that has the appearance of a chicken strip.

              Now comes the test... Hope it tastes and feels like what I am used to. So far, I still much prefer real meat to the plant based beyond stuff, but they are definitely getting better at it. It's a flavor and texture thing, and how well it grills.

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              • (Score: 3, Interesting) by takyon on Monday July 20 2020, @09:30AM (3 children)

                by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday July 20 2020, @09:30AM (#1024015) Journal

                Lab-grown meat will have to taste similar or better than the meats it is replacing. Which should be a low bar in the case of the majority of meat consumed. Your McDonald's burger patty or chicken nugget is a great place to start.

                There are numerous sources of low quality meats that could be targeted soon. Canned pet food, meat-flavored spaghetti sauce, canned chili, frozen burritos, frozen pizzas (sausage/beef bits), etc. Nobody is likely to notice cultured beef dropping into these [googleusercontent.com], unless there is a major improvement.

                The lab-grown hamburger from 2013 was 100% muscle cells of a uniform nature. If you only use what you can grow in vitro, you actually have to go out of your way to make it a lower quality product. No feathers, beaks, or eyeballs, because they are more difficult to grow in the first place. It's a reversal that leads me to believe that quality can go up with the use of cultured meat, even if costs go down.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_meat#First_public_trial [wikipedia.org]

                There is really a bite to it, there is quite some flavour with the browning. I know there is no fat in it so I didn't really know how juicy it would be, but there is quite some intense taste; it's close to meat, it's not that juicy, but the consistency is perfect. This is meat to me... It's really something to bite on and I think the look is quite similar.

                They presumably could have mixed fat and blood from another source into it to make it taste like a complete hamburger, but I guess they thought that it would defeat the purpose of the demonstration.

                Consumer adoption of lab-grown meat will depend on a number of factors. Will there be an "ick" reaction once cultured meat starts being labeled on those low-quality products? Will it be cheaper? If not, your cat or dog won't be eating it, and it won't be in this [hunts.com]. Will the traditional meat/cattle industry lobby for laws that put it at a disadvantage, while blasting it in marketing campaigns, or will they embrace it? Cargill's investments [cargill.com] suggest there will be industry acceptance of it, although it could be slow and uneven. They may be trying to embrace, extend, ______ the plant-based meat alternatives too.

                Most of what I mentioned above was about replacing ground meat. Texture (presumably "bioprinting" in TFA) is a level above in difficulty. Here's how I see it:

                1. Slab of pure muscle cell strands (2013 demo)
                2. Mixture of muscle strands, fat cells, and blood cells (ground beef, shredded/slurry chicken nuggets, hamburgers, hot dogs, sausage)
                3. Organization into textured tissues (chicken strips, pulled pork)
                4. Everything replicated including vascular system and bones (all steaks, bone-in chicken)
                5. Exotic/cannibalistic (human meat, organic metamaterials, whatever is fit to bioprint)

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                • (Score: 1) by anubi on Tuesday July 21 2020, @12:59AM (2 children)

                  by anubi (2828) on Tuesday July 21 2020, @12:59AM (#1024362) Journal

                  It's gonna be interesting to see where this goes.

                  I consider what I have been offered so far an inferior product when compared to what I am used to, but I do like colas, French fries, and cheetos...of which all are factory products. I will still eat oatmeal but prefer those oat cereals General Foods make.

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                  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday July 21 2020, @01:05AM (1 child)

                    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Tuesday July 21 2020, @01:05AM (#1024365) Journal
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                    • (Score: 1) by anubi on Tuesday July 21 2020, @01:45AM

                      by anubi (2828) on Tuesday July 21 2020, @01:45AM (#1024392) Journal

                      Yup, have had some ! I do prefer them to oatmeal.

                      I see the writing on the wall. Economies of scale and process control will eventually win over food as surely as it has taken over manufacturing.

                      I already have conceptions of what my food should taste like. Cognitive dissonance. And thats not set in concrete for me, and the next generation is forming their concepts even as I type this reply.

                      No different than my own dislike of some of the food my parents liked. I hated okra. Mom and dad liked it.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @12:28AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @12:28AM (#1023876)

      Just the thought of a BaoFeng or Huawei 3-D printer belching out KFC's version of McNuggets using test tube enzymes is enough to give me the squirts.
      Will it be available in a 100pc tub?

      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday July 20 2020, @12:37AM (1 child)

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday July 20 2020, @12:37AM (#1023880) Journal

        They should definitely sell 100-pc tubs for KFC weddings.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:03AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:03AM (#1023888)

          KFC weddings? I think you underestimate the typical lard-assed American's individual daily caloric intake.

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:03AM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:03AM (#1023889)

    Yous gots to try them Korean Fried Chicken. It's double fried to make the crust light, fluffy, crispy, instead of greasy, and they got these damn good seasoning coats with chill pepper, garlic and sesame seeds - they should put them on chicken wings.

    Best of all, they got this thing called chicken mu. It's small radish cubes, seasoned/coated to taste slightly sweet, slightly sour - coleslaw can't hold a candle to this thing.

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:08AM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:08AM (#1023893)

      There's some systemic racism there, pal. Trying to classify Black cooking as inferior is a race crime. Shame on you, report to reeducation camp.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:11AM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:11AM (#1023896)

        Huh, didn't know colonel was a negro. My bad.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:17AM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:17AM (#1023899)

          He's African-American now. His wife, his sisters, and his daughters are all doing big black basketball stars.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:22AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:22AM (#1023901)

            Video or it didn't happen.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:33AM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:33AM (#1023908)

              Search your favorite $tube. Try "KFC Darkmeat" or such.

              • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:49AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:49AM (#1023918)

                Level with me. You actually look for this shit? "KFC darkmeat?"

                It's ACs like you that give us ACs the bad name.

                Fucking AC cocksuckers.

              • (Score: 2) by Opportunist on Monday July 20 2020, @06:25AM

                by Opportunist (5545) on Monday July 20 2020, @06:25AM (#1023996)

                Protip: Don't do it on a Porn-tube.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @02:52AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @02:52AM (#1023945)

      There's no chickens in Korea. What you were eating was Kentucky Fried Street Dog. There's not many pet dogs there either.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @03:18AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @03:18AM (#1023958)

        I ate that awesome shit in LA's koreatown. Should I report that to Kentucky?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:40AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @01:40AM (#1023912)

    Must be an American thing.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @03:45AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @03:45AM (#1023963)

      It's spelled 'murican.

  • (Score: 2) by ilPapa on Monday July 20 2020, @02:11AM

    by ilPapa (2366) on Monday July 20 2020, @02:11AM (#1023928) Journal

    "And we would have beaten the Russians too, if they'd only would have eaten them"

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @03:35AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @03:35AM (#1023961)

    Chickens cause communism!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @03:59AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @03:59AM (#1023967)

    American, or Russian? That is the only part of the operation that is in question. All other ingredients replicate the taste and texture of genuine scam.

  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday July 20 2020, @04:34PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday July 20 2020, @04:34PM (#1024153) Journal

    One of the things I like about KFC is that it's obvious the meat comes from a real animal. Everything else, McDonald's to Burger King, can and is faked with fillers and substitutes. 3D printing chicken nuggets would annul KFC's selling point for us.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @07:26PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 20 2020, @07:26PM (#1024216)

    Just sayin'.

    How would I tell the difference?

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