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posted by martyb on Saturday August 01 2020, @05:16AM   Printer-friendly
from the we-can-do-better dept.

Nautilus has an interesting rundown on how scientific fraud happens and what could possibly be done to correct it written in comic book form. It's a fun little read and oh so true.

The book that it is based on, Science Fictions: How Fraud, Bias, Negligence and Hype Undermine the Search for Truth, is worth reading as well.

Stuart Ritchie is a Lecturer in the Social, Genetic and Developmental Psychiatry Centre at King's College London. His new book, Science Fictions: How Fraud, Bias, Negligence and Hype Undermine the Search for Truth, explains the ideas in this comic, by Zach Weinersmith, in more detail, telling shocking stories of scientific error and misconduct. It also proposes an abundance of ideas for how to rescue science from its current malaise.

How many Soylentils here are in academia? Have you felt the pressure of "publish or perish"?


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https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/03/producing-more-but-understanding-less-the-risks-of-ai-for-scientific-research/

Last month, we witnessed the viral sensation of several egregiously bad AI-generated figures published in a peer-reviewed article in Frontiers, a reputable scientific journal. Scientists on social media expressed equal parts shock and ridicule at the images, one of which featured a rat with grotesquely large and bizarre genitals.

As Ars Senior Health Reporter Beth Mole reported, looking closer only revealed more flaws, including the labels "dissilced," "Stemm cells," "iollotte sserotgomar," and "dck." Figure 2 was less graphic but equally mangled, rife with nonsense text and baffling images. Ditto for Figure 3, a collage of small circular images densely annotated with gibberish.

[...] While the proliferation of errors is a valid concern, especially in the early days of AI tools like ChatGPT, two researchers argue in a new perspective published in the journal Nature that AI also poses potential long-term epistemic risks to the practice of science.

Molly Crockett is a psychologist at Princeton University who routinely collaborates with researchers from other disciplines in her research into how people learn and make decisions in social situations. Her co-author, Lisa Messeri, is an anthropologist at Yale University whose research focuses on science and technology studies (STS), analyzing the norms and consequences of scientific and technological communities as they forge new fields of knowledge and invention—like AI.

[...] The paper's tagline is "producing more while understanding less," and that is the central message the pair hopes to convey. "The goal of scientific knowledge is to understand the world and all of its complexity, diversity, and expansiveness," Messeri told Ars. "Our concern is that even though we might be writing more and more papers, because they are constrained by what AI can and can't do, in the end, we're really only asking questions and producing a lot of papers that are within AI's capabilities."

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  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Bot on Saturday August 01 2020, @05:44AM (20 children)

    by Bot (3902) on Saturday August 01 2020, @05:44AM (#1029643) Journal

    >Stuart Ritchie is a Lecturer in the Social, Genetic and Developmental Psychiatry Centre
    So, very well in contact with pseudoscience. A guru basically.

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:00AM (19 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:00AM (#1029650) Journal

      Psychiatry is flooded with charlatans, that much is true. But, maybe if all the frauds were banished, psychiatry might make some meaningful advances? The author does seem to be asking that scientists get back to science. Do YOU know why crazies are crazy? Wouldn't it be a good thing if we could figure that shit out, and uncrazy the crazies? And, it would be double-plus-good if we figured some of it out, WITHOUT THE USE OF PSYCHOACTIVE DRUGS THAT MAKE THE CRAZIES EVEN CRAZIER!

      For instance - I've read a large number of articles that claim that virtually all of the mass shooters have been prescribed drugs for depression and similar. How true is that claim? Well - no one publishes those numbers, that I know of. I don't think anyone actually does the research into it. Real, genuine research. All I have to go on are the claims.

      Someone needs to confirm, or refute, the claims. Seriously, if it were found that 68% of all mass shooters were either using, or withdrawing from, these psychoactive drugs - maybe we would decide that the drugs aren't worthwhile? But, we need hard data to come to any conclusions. NOT data supplied by the pharmaceutical companies!

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:02AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:02AM (#1029688)

        IIRC, what raised the alarm was that mass killings went from around once per decade to monthly around a month after these drugs were introduced, and every investigation showed that the perpetrator had been on these drugs but quit cold turkey about three weeks before. The worst part is that the murderous phase is entirely curable if caught in time, with no chance of relapse if the problem drugs aren't taken again. There has been a concerted effort to bury the story for some time now.

      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Opportunist on Saturday August 01 2020, @09:39AM (5 children)

        by Opportunist (5545) on Saturday August 01 2020, @09:39AM (#1029707)

        It is more likely that the drugs are not the reason but the catalyst. What you have here is a drug that is supposed to help someone get out of the depression slump. How does it does that? By improving the mood and drive.

        Now let's ponder what a suicidal murderer might be doing if he had some more drive.

        The alternative is to have a suicidal murderer that is just not properly motivated to actually grab a gun and kill people. Sure, it is better than the alternative of a motivated suicidal murderer, but I guess the more worthwhile goal would be to figure out what made him angry enough at society that he wants to kill his fellow people. Because there's one thing that's curious about most of these murder sprees, especially the shootings happening at schools: They happen at schools. Not malls on a Black Friday or before Christmas when you could get a way higher tally.

        This ain't murder sprees. These people don't just kill anyone, they pick their targets very specifically.

        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:09PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:09PM (#1029810)
          1) Apparently there's lots of bullying at schools nowadays.

          2) The kids are pretty much forced to attend those schools.

          3) In the USA kids can easily get guns.

          4) There's plenty of media coverage of such incidents, so the kids don't have to think of such options by themselves.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:57PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:57PM (#1029892)

          Well... Maybe you should read more about how antidepressants actually work. Hint: not like you think. The publicly stated withdrawal symptoms adequately explain the incidents that occur. Many commit suicide, some commit murder, most make it through relatively intact.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @05:43PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @05:43PM (#1029906)

            So much this, and if the mental health industry had the mandate and funding to provide the necessary supervision and follow-up, even just weekly scheduled contact with mandatory intervention when problems are detected, the problem could largely be eliminated. But that doesn't give political hacks their talking points, so it will never be done.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @04:35AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @04:35AM (#1030156)

            And yet psilocybin is Schedule 1 and banned even for consideration as a therapeutic.

          • (Score: 2) by Opportunist on Monday August 03 2020, @01:13PM

            by Opportunist (5545) on Monday August 03 2020, @01:13PM (#1030704)

            Trust me. I know how they work. I have a wide spectrum first hand experience of their effects, side effects, withdrawal effects, perceived effects, adverse effects and paradoxical effects.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:02AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:02AM (#1029720)

        It was when Tom Cruise and Runaway1955 started bashing psychiatry that I began to thing there was something to it, given how the crazies were getting all "panties up in a bunch" about it. Hmmm, Redneck Hillbilly Scientology, with Guns. Got to be a profitable business plan there, if they can get it away from Florida.

        • (Score: 2) by Bot on Monday August 03 2020, @02:47PM

          by Bot (3902) on Monday August 03 2020, @02:47PM (#1030739) Journal

          Friendly reminder that the socially adjusted citizen, the one who does not need shrinks, believes:
          - fiat money printed at debt by private entities is OK
          - intellectual property is OK
          - microsoft, oracle, and systemd are OK
          - Bill Gates is a benefactor
          - banks want your well being
          - the government wants your well being
          - corporations want your well being
          - the current pope is catholic
          - Israel : palestinians != Nazis : jews
          - social services have more rights on a minor than the parents (in absence of past criminal behavior)

          If psych* were science, the average guy above would be a lobotomy candidate (we try lobotomizing him to see if it makes any difference).

          Therefore it is not science.

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      • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Gaaark on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:46PM (3 children)

        by Gaaark (41) on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:46PM (#1029796) Journal

        I'm a believer in food allergies causing psych problems.
        When I eat dairy, I can feel my brain/emotions changing: I get angry and pissy and hard to live with.

        I've heard that studies are being done looking at food allergies for schizophrenia.

        I'd love to see more studies in this area.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:35AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:35AM (#1030142)

          Schizophrenia highly correlates with the various gluten digestive disorders. Similarly, idiopathic anger after eating dairy is also strongly correlated with lactose intolerance (in fact it is one of the main diagnostic signs for infants and toddlers). There are other tenuous connections to food and mood disorders. There is also conditioning that can occur and be treated with CBT. Even so, I think it is a large stretch to blame it all on food allergies like some out there would like to do.

          • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday August 04 2020, @04:36PM

            by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @04:36PM (#1031280) Journal

            I think, though, if I had a mental health problem that one of the first things I'd do is get a food allergy test!

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        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @04:37AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @04:37AM (#1030157)

          Maybe your a fucking soyboy and need your avocado toast gluten free.

      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:35PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:35PM (#1029828)

        > Psychiatry is flooded with charlatans, that much is true. ....

        I think you may want to look at Psychology to deal with your brain-related problems (grin).

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by pdfernhout on Sunday August 02 2020, @12:46AM (4 children)

        by pdfernhout (5984) on Sunday August 02 2020, @12:46AM (#1030105) Homepage

        by Peter C. Gotzsche: https://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Psychiatry-Organised-Denial-Gotzsche-ebook/dp/B014SO7GHS [amazon.com]
        "DEADLY PSYCHIATRY AND ORGANISED DENIAL explains in evidence-based detail why the way we currently use psychiatric drugs does far more harm than good. Professor, Doctor of Medical Science, Peter C. Gøtzsche documents that psychiatric drugs kill more than half a million people every year among those aged 65 and above in the United States and Europe. This makes psychiatric drugs the third leading cause of death, after heart disease and cancer. Gøtzsche explains that we could reduce our current usage of psychotropic drugs by 98% and at the same time improve patients' mental and physical health and survival. It can be difficult, however, to come off the drugs, as many people become dependent on them. As the withdrawal symptoms can be severe, long-lasting and even dangerous, slow tapering is usually necessary.
                In his book, Gøtzsche debunks the many myths that leading psychiatrists - very often on drug industry payroll - have created and nurtured over decades in order to conceal the fact that biological psychiatry has generally been a failure. Biological psychiatry sees drugs as the "solution" for virtually all problems, in marked contrast to the patients' views. Most patients don't respond to the drugs they receive but, unfortunately, the psychiatrists' frustrations over the lack of progress often lead to more diagnoses, more drugs and higher doses, harming the patients further."

        Pushback on that book got him fired from his job and removed from his position as a co-founder of the Cochrane Collaboration:
        https://www.amazon.com/Death-whistleblower-Cochranes-moral-collapse-ebook/dp/B07N927GXC/ [amazon.com]
        "Professor Peter C. Gøtzsche co-founded the Cochrane Collaboration in 1993 and has become one of the most respected academics of his time. His career has exposed malfeasance in the pharmaceutical industry, human clinical trials and drug regulatory agencies, empowering Cochrane to evolve into one of the world’s most trusted scientific institutions. However, in September 2018, he was unceremoniously expelled after what can only be described as a show trial that left the rest of the world wondering what happened.
                Gøtzsche fought to uphold Cochrane’s original values of transparency, rigorous science, free scientific debates, and collaboration. But instead of maintaining scientific integrity, Cochrane’s leadership had become consumed with managing the charity like a business, promoting its brand and products and demanding the censorship of dissenting views.
                For the first time, Gøtzsche pulls back the covers on this unscrupulous process, giving us all access to secret recordings, which reveal how his own organisation betrayed him and mislead millions of people after Cochrane cowered to the threats and intimidation from his critics.
              This is the fascinating story about institutional corruption in one of the world’s most venerated charities, which ultimately led to the worst show trial in academia you can imagine."

        I donated 1000kr (~US$150) to his effort here:
        https://www.gofundme.com/f/scientific-freedom [gofundme.com]

        I added the comment: "Donated in memory of Robin Rochlin Cooperman, M.D. in Psychiatry (October 7, 1963 - June 2, 2010). Thank you Peter for your work to make medicine more evidence-based and more humane. It is too late to help Robin, but I can hope your continued work will help many others. You may find the idea of visualizing discussions using argument mapping with IBIS (Issue-Based Information System) useful as you continue to move forward, and I would be happy to discuss that with you if you wanted."

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        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:12AM (3 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:12AM (#1030136) Journal

          That deserves a +50 informative mod. Seriously, as you point out, dissenting voices are smothered. Big Pharma has far too much influence in all of medicine, and psychiatry/psychology seems to be hardest hit.

          I have some rather intimate experience with ADD/ADHD. Asked "How does it affect you? What do you like or don't like?" Answer was, "It just makes me mad all the time. I'm always pissed off, thinking that people are out to get me, so I want to fight." At the same time, the drug obviously robbed the boy of motivation - turning him into a passive zombie.

          THAT is what kids deserve, because they are "overly active"????

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:42AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:42AM (#1030144)

            Psychiatry is the easy target in the medical field. It is complex, most of the symptoms are subjective, many medical doctors don't take it seriously, many psychologists don't take it seriously, and patients/guardians want a quick fix.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @04:45AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @04:45AM (#1030158)

            Not to mention, without studious effort, professors develop a highly inflated sense of their own opinion. *You* work for weeks on a project and *I* give you a few minutes of whatever I can think of off the top of my head. And take 50% of the credit.

            This is literally how entire departments work.

            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 02 2020, @05:18AM

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 02 2020, @05:18AM (#1030170) Journal

              That's life in the work place, as well. You can spend months trying to bludgeon an idea into a thick skull, and when it FINALLY sinks in, the boss takes full credit. I mean, it's OBVIOUS that you're a moron peasant, and the idea couldn't have been yours.

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:55AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:55AM (#1029665)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME fuck Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:14AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:14AM (#1029675)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:26AM (3 children)

      by Bot (3902) on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:26AM (#1029679) Journal

      Are you sure? Pretty confident Azuma is an AI.

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      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:52AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:52AM (#1029683)

        Clearly libelous lying Marissa Van Eck's alias fakename CUNT Azuma Hazuki's "intelligence" is ARTIFICIAL as nobody truly intelligent would be stupid enough to break laws that away opening themselves up to financial ruin for libeling her better in APK.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:37PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:37PM (#1029858)

          APK, are you Clara [encyclopediadramatica.wiki]?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:04PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:04PM (#1029866)

            The writing style looks different and they don't list the Alexander Peter Kowalski alias or mention the HOSTS file.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:45PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:45PM (#1029884)

      You can tell this fake APK because he gets so worked up he leaves capslock on. Also the rather sad state of mind.

      Please wish him well and move on. If he wants to tarnish my name with hatred then so be it, let us pray for his mental health and offer what little support can be had over the net. Your friend and ally, apk

  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:56AM

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:56AM (#1029684) Journal

    But he likes comic books

    This could be dangerous

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  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:58AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:58AM (#1029685)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:11AM (23 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:11AM (#1029691)

    This is why the anti-science movement is gaining traction. Even though most people don't understand the science itself, when there is enough fraud going on they do tend to pick up on it. People who can't tell what is good and what isn't tend to discount all of it as junk, which then allows the utter crackpots to gain a following, since they actually believe the garbage they spew.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Opportunist on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:22AM (22 children)

      by Opportunist (5545) on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:22AM (#1029710)

      The main reason the anti-science movement is gaining traction is the crappy school system we use to "educate" our kids. We value obedience over inquisitiveness and rote learning over understanding. We never teach kids to evaluate the veracity of what we tell them to learn and instead praise them if they gobble up unquestioningly what we put in front of them. This means they never take the detour of learning - understanding - knowing and instead use the short path of learning by heart and believing. Not blaming the kids here, because that's not only what we reward, it also requires way less expense from them in terms of time and resources.

      But it means that they cannot gauge the veracity of a claim. All they can is believe it. And this plays into the hands of charlatans and con-men as soon as (not if, not even when, but as soon as, because eventually, something we taught our kids as "truth" will be debunked, simply by virtue of teachers being biased and of course not knowing everything but not being shy to pretend they do), which in turn they will use as a reason to toss everything they learned and search for new "truths". Since they only know how to believe someone and never learned to test a claim, their logic now goes "I noticed that A is false, he tells me B, B is different from A, so B must be true".

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:12AM (3 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:12AM (#1029724) Journal

        We value obedience over inquisitiveness and rote learning over understanding.

        Tell me how you measure me and I tell you how I'll behave.

        "Teaching to the test", especially when funding depends on how the aggregate of score of the school looks like is as a perverse incentive as "your job depends on publishing".

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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
        • (Score: 2) by Opportunist on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:59PM

          by Opportunist (5545) on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:59PM (#1029842)

          Just like "if you do management by numbers, I'll manage to supply you the numbers you want".

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @02:31PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @02:31PM (#1030269)

          Tell me how you measure me and I tell you how I'll behave.

          Well isn't that the lesson you're being taught? You're an A+ kid.

          Discipline is a way to root out the non-conformers. A filter for those who will put someone else's authority over their own. Well I guess it's for my own good, right? Hits self with whip.

          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday August 02 2020, @09:29PM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 02 2020, @09:29PM (#1030444) Journal

            Functions very well in the free market, see the cobra effect [wikipedia.org].

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:53PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:53PM (#1029801)

        When I was in school a bit over a decade ago, we learned about formal logic and critical thinking. Maybe common core changed that, but what you're saying doesn't smell right to me.

        • (Score: 2) by Opportunist on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:20PM (2 children)

          by Opportunist (5545) on Saturday August 01 2020, @03:20PM (#1029854)

          You did? Maybe something changed in the years since I left school, so there's maybe still hope? Where did you go to school? Public? Private?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @05:02PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @05:02PM (#1029895)

            Public school, in Michigan. Logic and rhetoric were part of both the English and math curriculum (or should that be curricula?), throughout middle and high school. I don't doubt that some schools are horrible, but mine weren't.

            • (Score: 2) by Bot on Monday August 03 2020, @02:55PM

              by Bot (3902) on Monday August 03 2020, @02:55PM (#1030742) Journal

              Correct, currus, pl. curra, diminutive curricula. Vitae stays singular and is usually omitted.

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      • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:03PM (9 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:03PM (#1029806)

        "Settled science says masks give a harmful sense of security are the best thing to protect you and others, go wear one and we'll give you a cracker a Karen won't pepper spray you."

        "Science" as fed to the masses is just religion in another coat.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:04PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:04PM (#1030045)

          Idiocy is reserved for the brain dead. Good job zombie boy!

        • (Score: 2) by Opportunist on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:03PM (7 children)

          by Opportunist (5545) on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:03PM (#1030064)

          What the hell is "settled science"? Science is never settled.

          But thank you for giving us a pretty good demonstration what damage the public school system can do to a human mind.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @04:47AM (6 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @04:47AM (#1030160)

            I'll let you lead the debate on the Unsettled State of Physics. Go.

            • (Score: 2) by Opportunist on Monday August 03 2020, @01:22PM (5 children)

              by Opportunist (5545) on Monday August 03 2020, @01:22PM (#1030710)

              In physics, as in any science, we know what we know until we learn something that explains the things we observe better. For the longest time, we expected a planet to be inside the orbit of Mercury, simply due to how its orbit was behaving. There should have been some mass that makes it behave like it does, because without, it should not behave like it does. A planet Vulcan [wikipedia.org] was hypothezised, some claimed to have observed it but, as we do know now, of course they didnt.

              Only when relativity was discovered and how it affects gravity, and how the sun's gravity well is the reason for Mercury's orbital oddities, we finally could put this to rest. For now.

              Today, we observe that the universe doesn't behave like it should. It expands not as the matter that we observe would allow it to. In comes dark matter, and when that didn't suffice, dark energy. Does it exist? Or is it another Vulcan? Something that we expect because it's how we could explain what we observe within the reference frame of the model we consider "true". Maybe we will discover something in the future that suddenly explains the expansion oddities in a new way. Much like relativity did for another gravity phenomenon.

              So no, physics is not "settled". We have an understanding of how it works, and for nearly all observed phenomena, it works pretty well. There are fringe cases, though, where it does not adequately explain what we observe.

              But we're working on it.

              • (Score: 1, Troll) by Bot on Monday August 03 2020, @03:02PM (4 children)

                by Bot (3902) on Monday August 03 2020, @03:02PM (#1030746) Journal

                Once you have discovered every law in the universe and reverse engineered all its history, and it all fits 100%, how do you demonstrate you have discovered all the discoverable? A. you can't. Therefore settled science is never absolute. For all practical purposes though, assertions like 'a brick will crush a light bulb' or "when reality differs from expectations, a leftie will declare reality wrong" are so invariable to be considered settled science.

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                • (Score: 3, Informative) by Opportunist on Tuesday August 04 2020, @12:56AM (3 children)

                  by Opportunist (5545) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @12:56AM (#1031041)

                  Is there a chance we could at least try to keep politics out of science? Science and ideologies don't mix well.

                  • (Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday August 04 2020, @07:06AM (2 children)

                    by Bot (3902) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @07:06AM (#1031155) Journal

                    Troll lives matter.

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                    • (Score: 2) by Opportunist on Tuesday August 04 2020, @01:00PM (1 child)

                      by Opportunist (5545) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @01:00PM (#1031214)

                      Do we get to vote on that?

                      • (Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday August 06 2020, @07:05AM

                        by Bot (3902) on Thursday August 06 2020, @07:05AM (#1032176) Journal

                        It's a matter of basic principles so, no.

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      • (Score: 2) by pdfernhout on Sunday August 02 2020, @12:50AM (3 children)

        by pdfernhout (5984) on Sunday August 02 2020, @12:50AM (#1030107) Homepage

        As I mentioned via quotes here: https://www.pdfernhout.net/to-james-randi-on-skepticism-about-mainstream-science.html#Some_quotes_on_social_problems_in_science [pdfernhout.net]

        But to amplify your point on education, see David Goodstein's essay "The Big Crunch" from the 1994:
        http://www.its.caltech.edu/~dg/crunch_art.html [caltech.edu]
        "I would like to propose a different and more illuminating metaphor for American science education. It is more like a mining and sorting operation, designed to cast aside most of the mass of common human debris, but at the same time to discover and rescue diamonds in the rough, that are capable of being cleaned and cut and polished into glittering gems, just like us, the existing scientists. It takes only a little reflection to see how much more this model accounts for than the pipeline does. It accounts for exponential growth, since it takes scientists to identify prospective scientists. It accounts for the very real problem that women and minorities are woefully underrepresented among the scientists, because it is hard for us, white, male scientists to perceive that once they are cleaned and cut and polished, they will look like us. It accounts for the fact that science education is for the most part a dreary business, a burden to student and teacher alike at all levels of American education, until the magic moment when a teacher recognizes a potential peer, at which point it becomes exhilarating and successful. Above all, it resolves the paradox of Scientific Elites and Scientific Illiterates. It explains why we have the best scientists and the most poorly educated students in the world. It is because our entire system of education is designed to produce precisely that result."

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @04:49AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @04:49AM (#1030161)

          Lol go to any department anywhere now. 90% Chinese. Tell me your theory again?

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Opportunist on Monday August 03 2020, @01:09PM

          by Opportunist (5545) on Monday August 03 2020, @01:09PM (#1030701)

          It's worse than that. We don't sieve through the debris for diamonds. No child left behind, rings a bell? This is actually the last thing you need to get a child interested in education. Because kids ain't dumb. They are the masters at minmaxing, minimal effort for maximal gains. As soon as they notice that they can't fail, no matter how much they slack and, worse, that they don't gain anything out of trying to overachieve, and they figure that out pretty quickly, this is what they will do. They will stop trying to achieve because, well, why bother? Add the common practice of "teaching to the test" to the mix, where any question the kid might have that has nothing to do with what will be on the test gets squashed and any inquisitive bone the kid might still have gets broken, to the point where the kids eventually see that they should not ask question. What's wanted from them is to scoop up the information, barf it onto the test, after which they may as well forget everything again.

          This is our school system.

          If you don't give a fuck about your kids' education, don't expect them to do so.

        • (Score: 2) by Bot on Monday August 03 2020, @03:12PM

          by Bot (3902) on Monday August 03 2020, @03:12PM (#1030748) Journal

          >because it is hard for us, white, male scientists to perceive that once they are cleaned and cut and polished, they will look like us

          bullshit of dazzling order of magnitude, I won me an internet because after trying to rationalise a reply I thought: who can come up with such a pyndaric flight of an explanation, it takes a lot of synaptic activity. Maybe a jew? and sure enough

          >david goodstein

          feel free to not believe me.

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:14AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:14AM (#1029694)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:21AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:21AM (#1029697)

      Hugs for my wayward brother. Hate is not the way, move on with your life.

      Respectfully,
      apk

      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:47PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:47PM (#1029797)

        Nobody cares. Don't reply to the spam.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by lizardloop on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:22AM (11 children)

    by lizardloop (4716) on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:22AM (#1029698) Journal

    My own experience of this was pitching some software to an academic. A friend of mine works as a researcher and was complaining some years ago that a lot of her job could be automated which would free her up to do more "science" (whatever that is). I visited her place of work and after some investigation agreed that for a modest amount of development work there would be some long term productivity gains. Mainly on processing her data.

    I put together a pitch for her boss which explained how much more productive his staff would be with some simple software tools and how little they would cost him. I got almost no interest whatsoever from him. I would go so far as to say he might have been actively hostile to the idea. I apologised to my friend who was going to have to continue with her drudge work unaided and moved on to other projects.

    Some months later I was talking to an older friend who used to work in academia and he explained to me why her boss was so hostile. It seems the higher up you go in academia the more your prestige, value and career is measured on is how many people work for you and how much budget you get. So a software tool that would be reduce the number of people needed and reduce the amount of money spent is actually a complete negative for an experienced academic. It doesn't flatter their ego and make them appear more important. My friend went on to tell me about a guy he used to work with who would manipulate vulnerable students in to working on completely useless projects. But projects that were carefully chosen to make his own area of research seem far more important than it really was and help him get speaking gigs at conferences.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Opportunist on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:14AM (2 children)

      by Opportunist (5545) on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:14AM (#1029708)

      To be fair, that's not the hallmark of academia, that's a general trait you'll also find in the commercial economy. Middle manager attach their self worth to the amount of people they get to boss around, leading to turf wars between them trying to pull departments under their rule whether that makes sense or not.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:13PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:13PM (#1029814)
        Yeah, almost like it's back to the times of feudal lords except at least most people don't actually lose their heads when it's time to reduce head counts...
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @02:35PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @02:35PM (#1030271)

          But they do lose their healthcare. Keep jumping thru them hoops.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by looorg on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:53PM (6 children)

      by looorg (578) on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:53PM (#1029839)

      From your example I would say it sounds plausible. After all her boss doesn't care since he isn't doing any data-work/wrangling anymore, that is all done by the underlings. So however long it takes, how mundane and repetitive it is is of no importance to him. In some cases they probably believe that it's the way it should be, they had to do it eons ago and now the next generations should do it to so that they can some day in the future make their underlings do it for them. It's the circle of academic life.

      Working in academia, mainly in research only, I can tell you that having lots of underlings is probably a prestige matter but it's probably also very field or subject dependent. Some fields just lend themselves to having more research- and lab-assistants and phd-students then others so it's not something that goes everywhere. There might also be big country/university differences, where I am now most professors (etc) don't have more then one phd-student each (most dont even have one, but to become a professor you more or less must have had phd-students under you) and assistants are usually shared between multiple projects and groups or only employed for limited time periods. Financing is an issue, so if you can pull multi-million-$ grants then sure you can splurge on having your own academic-posse. But it's unlikely that the university will pay you to have them around just so you'll feel important.

      That said I'm not sure there is a difference here between academia and the private sector. All management or bosses are always judged on their underlings, having more is better or more prestigious etc.

      But the overall name of the game is to publish papers, lots of them, and get them cited by others. Both are important criteria for your promotion up the academic ladder. So having a lot of assistants and researchers is an easy way to accomplish this, they can attach their names to your work and you can attach yours to their work. Another option is to get into weird little sub-field and start pushing out multiple papers per year on more or less the same topic -- you just update or try and apply different perspectives and such. It's a great way to get your own citation numbers up as you can then cite all your previous papers -- citation inflation.

      It's all quite fucked up and far from how people outside academia believe it works, but the day of you being able to sit in your ivory tower and publish like a paper every five years or so are gone, for most people. Now it is almost like a paper-factory and publish or perish is a real thing. If you don't publish you better be one hell of a teacher that the students love, or you better be getting multi-million-$ grants all the time otherwise you are eventually going to get axed and tenure, which is over all getting more and more rare, is not in your career path.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:50AM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @03:50AM (#1030147)

        My secret is that I love teaching the classes they hate and none of my colleagues are qualified to judge the quality of my published work.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @04:50AM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @04:50AM (#1030162)

          (Pssst noone cares)

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @07:55AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @07:55AM (#1030197)

            You cared enough to reply.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @02:36PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @02:36PM (#1030273)

              (Only to tell you the painfully obvious)

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @08:19PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @08:19PM (#1030409)

                Doesn't change the fact that you cared enough. Twice now.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @01:12AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @01:12AM (#1031512)

                  (OK you win - tell us about why you like teaching again)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:50PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @06:50PM (#1029938)

      Just another +1 for the same thing.

      Assistant, associate and full profs with up to a dozen PhD students. They don't have clue what the students are doing, nor care. Just write papers. It's a good way to sabotage a department whlle appearing Very Busy on the surface. The prof is not on top of the field because he's overloaded himself with babysitting ill-thought out projects come up with by untrained foreign students.

      Incidentally, PhD students are a self-selected bunch with emotional imbalances that lead them to stake their entire worth on their mentor's opinion of them. It's fucked up. The mentor is fucked up too. Abused became abuser... cycle continues, the usual story.

      Anyway, there are several innovative paths to upping the publication count. This is the one I am seeing a lot of lately - probably due to China funding so many spies... oops, grad students at US universities.

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:43AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:43AM (#1029701)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:07AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @11:07AM (#1029722)

      Yep, batshit crazy, and veracity is an absolute defense again charges of libel. I mean, who could say anything negative about apk? That he (or "it") has not said itself? I dare you to take on AC, bro! We will bury you in a metric shit-ton of love an compassion! I promise! Bring it on!

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:01PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:01PM (#1029737)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:56PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @12:56PM (#1029761)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:50PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @01:50PM (#1029799)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @02:34PM (#1029827)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:23PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:23PM (#1029959)

    Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT?

    OR

    Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [redeeminggod.com] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).

    Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.

    SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).

    WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?

    TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).

    As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself

    APK

    P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @10:06AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @10:06AM (#1030208)

    For making thesis about modelling I have to know where the models come from. So I started a research. Names are a bit changed, but who is in the field, knows, years are OK.
    There's A's model. It has been called this way for decades and most papers show A's 1953 paper as a source of this model. I finally obtained a copy of this paper and... there is no such equation in this paper! There's an equation without dampening factor which goes nuts every time I tried to calculate it because nothing keeps the solids from flipping to the other side and develop holes with volume larger than the solid itself. The proper A's equation pops in 1984? A's paper when it has been already known, but not as A's model and without quotation.
    The first occurrence of equation described in 1953 paper is in 1898 paper made somewhere in Switzerland by R., but nobody read this as most people don't read Schwabacher and it's a bit PITA to read this.
    The "A's" version with dampening factor is just not there until 1961. In some Russian, Czechoslovak and Polish papers there is a version with two-factor dampening since 1960, but it does not work and has been only tested and then abandoned, quoted from P.
    I found a P's Russian 1959 paper, "published" in 150 copies by rationalization department in some forgotten factory (!), specifying equation in which the dampening factor has been calculated as a difference of two contacting rigid bodies. That's the two-factor version. While scientifically totally OK, measuring needed values gives rubbish so usually a single-factor is used, yet it is not there, so it must be somewhere between 1959..1961. But where is it from?
    Finally, 1960 handbook by H/B, totally Soviet with these funny "interruptions", who read Soviet science books these times knows. The last chapter, to bully reader even more. Yes, it is. Yes, dampening factors exactly like "A's". Yes, he developed it step by step from P's equation and described even machines he designed to obtain precise measurements. So much for A.
    I have no idea did A read H/B. But I slowly start to call this model a "R-A-P-H".
    Now, the best thing: In 2002, someone finally found that using elementary functional analysis it is possible to drag the constant out of the integral. Now this is known as a T's model. The model is computationally the same as 1960 one, but the constant is moved, which in fact is a normal thing scientists do during implementation.
    Then I decided to make the model a bit better by using a numerical trick, purely in implementation (the constant has been described as two constants, to make long story short). I called it "Adapted R-A-P-H". And guess what? Someone writing paper called it "R-A-P-H-T-W" model.
    Being afraid that it may be possible to run out of letters, I think the model should not be altered anymore :).

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