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posted by martyb on Tuesday August 04 2020, @04:44PM   Printer-friendly
from the worth-a-shot? dept.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-russia-vaccine/russia-preparing-mass-vaccination-against-coronavirus-for-october-idUSKBN24X3KO

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia's health minister is preparing a mass vaccination campaign against the novel coronavirus for October, local news agencies reported on Saturday, after a vaccine completed clinical trials.

Health Minister Mikhail Murashko said the Gamaleya Institute, a state research facility in Moscow, had completed clinical trials of the vaccine and paperwork is being prepared to register it, Interfax news agency reported.

He said doctors and teachers would be the first to be vaccinated.


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Russia Offers its Untested COVID-19 Vaccine for Free to UN Officials 73 comments

Russia offers its untested COVID-19 vaccine for free to UN officials:

On Tuesday, Russian President Vladimir Putin offered UN staff free doses of the country's COVID-19 vaccine, Sputnik V[*], which has not completed clinical trials for efficacy and has not been thoroughly vetted for safety.

Still, Putin suggested that his offer was prompted by the desire to give the people what they want: "Some colleagues from the UN have asked about this, and we will not remain indifferent to them," he said during a speech Tuesday at this year's (virtual) General Assembly.

Putin made headlines last month after announcing that Russia has granted regulatory approval for the (limited) use of Sputnik V, the first country in the world to do so. He even boasted that one of his daughters had received her first dose of the vaccine.

But public health experts were quickly skeptical of the move, seeing it as merely a political stunt to give the appearance that Russia was "winning" the race to develop a vaccine against the pandemic coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2. At the time, the vaccine had only been tested in two small clinical trials, involving just 76 people total—and the data from those small trials had not yet been released.

[...] Sputnik V has now moved into larger trials with tens of thousands of people. These will test whether the vaccine is safe in a larger number of people and actually protects against infection from SARS-CoV-2. But any clear results are months away.

Sputnik (n.):

"artificial satellite," extended from the name of the one launched by the Soviet Union Oct. 4, 1957, from Russian sputnik "satellite," literally "traveling companion" (in this use short for sputnik zemlyi, "traveling companion of the Earth")

Previously:
(2020-08-04) Russia Preparing Mass Vaccination Against Coronavirus for October


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @04:50PM (19 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @04:50PM (#1031283)

    If the Russians were smart, they would try this shit out in Africa or India first

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @05:00PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @05:00PM (#1031289)
      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by TomTheFighter on Tuesday August 04 2020, @08:20PM

        by TomTheFighter (9781) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @08:20PM (#1031390)

        And if they didn't they'd get accused of discrimination.

        Can't win with the SJW crowd, you can never be left enough.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @08:51PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @08:51PM (#1031408)

        They are the group most effected due to the amount of commodities.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @05:19PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @05:19PM (#1031298)
      • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Tuesday August 04 2020, @07:41PM (3 children)

        by RS3 (6367) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @07:41PM (#1031372)

        Interior minister said it was ammonium nitrate stored. Maybe better to store that stuff far from civilization?

        • (Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Tuesday August 04 2020, @11:20PM (2 children)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 04 2020, @11:20PM (#1031467) Journal
          Why would you do a silly thing like that when you can store it next to the fireworks? Some videos (this one [twitter.com]) even shows the fireworks going off in the initial blaze.
          • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Tuesday August 04 2020, @11:53PM (1 child)

            by RS3 (6367) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @11:53PM (#1031481)

            I was hearing/reading the many speculations including fireworks but I discounted those - even after seeing all the small flashes in the several videos. Oh gosh, if they really did store ammonium nitrate next to fireworks... I don't even know what to think, but I hope we someday hear the full truth of this situation. I feel so badly for all of those people. This is a great opportunity, sad as it is, for the US to help as much as possible and hopefully improve relations with Lebanon at the same time.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @10:01PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @10:01PM (#1031984)

              What makes you think the US has any interest in helping the people or stabilizing the region? Look at the horror we're enabling in Yemen or Syria FFS.

    • (Score: 2) by Opportunist on Tuesday August 04 2020, @05:34PM (3 children)

      by Opportunist (5545) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @05:34PM (#1031305)

      Who said they don't?

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday August 04 2020, @05:41PM (2 children)

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @05:41PM (#1031312)

        Russia has been flat to losing population since the Berlin wall fell, I don't think they're on a growth predicated economy anymore and their rulers don't seem to care if they lose people or not.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @06:59PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @06:59PM (#1031350)

          i don't know if that's true. Putin publicly pushes family, etc.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @08:14PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @08:14PM (#1031385)

            i don't know if that's true. Putin publicly pushes family, etc.

            No surprise there. That's a standard from the authoritarian's handbook.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by legont on Tuesday August 04 2020, @06:12PM (6 children)

      by legont (4179) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @06:12PM (#1031329)

      Russians always try it on themselves first. In this particular case, political and economy elite is trying it since April.
      Yes, I know western culture has trouble comprehending it - always was, always will. Russians may be whatever bad things is said about them, but they are stoics. That's why they won all the major wars against all the odds and will win them in the future. It would be smart to stay away.

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      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @07:09PM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @07:09PM (#1031357)

        All majority White countries need to form an iron clad alliance. Not to attack others, but for self improvement and protection. Keeping Russia poor is not good, IMO. We'd have to kick the Bolsheviks out of the US gov/finance first, though.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @08:16PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @08:16PM (#1031387)

          Отвали от Бориса

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @08:50PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @08:50PM (#1031404)

          >slavs

        • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday August 04 2020, @09:27PM (2 children)

          by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @09:27PM (#1031427)

          Be quiet you stupid child, the adults are having a conversation.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @05:50AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @05:50AM (#1031578)

            Triggered

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @06:24AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @06:24AM (#1031590)

              Ditto

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by DannyB on Tuesday August 04 2020, @05:07PM (17 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 04 2020, @05:07PM (#1031293) Journal

    Can good American companies such as Clorox and Lysol sue to prevent Russia from using similar cleaning fluids to cure COVID-19?

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    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday August 04 2020, @06:08PM

      by Bot (3902) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @06:08PM (#1031327) Journal

      soooo guys, you're rather going to get mRNA stuff? soylentnews discussions will be interesting next year, no matter who was right in the end.

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @07:35PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @07:35PM (#1031369)

      Fucking traitor. Why don't you just leave the US?

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @07:37PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @07:37PM (#1031371)

        Poor victim. He hurt your feelz!

      • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday August 04 2020, @09:00PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @09:00PM (#1031411) Journal

        I would rather kick the idiot spreading dangerous medical disinformation out of the Oval Office with my vote. But thanks for the suggestion...

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @09:22PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @09:22PM (#1031424)

        ***WOOOOOEEEEEEEOOOOOOOO DING DING DING***

        Congratulations, you are this week's big winner offffff, MORON BINGO! Congratulations, you win the Freedom of Speech to continue fighting for next month's BIG PRIZE!

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 05 2020, @12:22AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 05 2020, @12:22AM (#1031498) Journal

        Why don't you just leave the US?

        He won't leave because he hates your freedom!!!!

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday August 05 2020, @01:58PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 05 2020, @01:58PM (#1031709) Journal

        Fucking traitor. Why don't you just leave the US?

        If you like using Clorox and Lysol as an internal medical treatment, I'm not stopping you. So what are you complaining about?

        Use your freedom!

        I and many others prefer not to use these so called treatments.

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      • (Score: 2) by Taibhsear on Thursday August 06 2020, @01:44PM

        by Taibhsear (1464) on Thursday August 06 2020, @01:44PM (#1032250)

        Why don't you just leave the US?

        ...Because there's a travel ban.

    • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @08:49PM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @08:49PM (#1031403)

      I have heard this mentioned several times by people like you and the various democrats on the site. Do you actually believe he was suggesting bleach consumption? Or are you just using it because it is politically effective? I have always assumed the second one, because I have a rather high view of the intelligence of the people on this site, even the ones I disagree with.

      • (Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday August 04 2020, @09:04PM (6 children)

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @09:04PM (#1031413) Journal

        It's Not Fake News: Trump Did Actually Suggest That Injecting Bleach Could Be a Cure for COVID-19 [reason.com]

        "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you're going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds—it sounds interesting to me." ---Donald J Trump, ladies and gentlemen, President of the Goddamn United States of America

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @12:35AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @12:35AM (#1031502)

          So you believe your own propaganda? That is quite sad.

          The speaker just before Trump was the representative from a company that, from their own poor choice of language, injects a light through the mouth into the lungs and disinfects it with UV.

          "And then I see the disinfectant [UV], where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside [of a light stick] or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you're going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds—it sounds interesting to me."

          So you are either evil or just unable to read, either way, congratulations.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @01:42AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @01:42AM (#1031525)

            So you are either evil or just unable to read, either way, congratulations.

            No, he's just a bigoted partisan operative. He may be the president of his College Democrats, as he seems to sow talking points before the MSM had time to bombard us with them.

            That being said, the political rush to do something, we're getting much quackery in devices and research. A UV lamp in the lungs? How will lung cells be spared when trying to combat the virus?

            Sometimes a politician has to put up a smile and an acknowledgement to hucksters that score an audience. Let's hope regained sanity will keep their number down.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @06:15AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @06:15AM (#1031584)

            The person who spoke before him was William Bryan, from DHS and not some "company", and Trump mentioned him by name in his full response. Before calling someone a liar or unable to read, you better check your facts too.

          • (Score: 2) by Aegis on Wednesday August 05 2020, @02:52PM

            by Aegis (6714) on Wednesday August 05 2020, @02:52PM (#1031743)

            Ah yes, because surgically inserting glowsticks is a totally reasonable thing for the President of the United States of America to suggest!

        • (Score: 2) by ChrisMaple on Wednesday August 05 2020, @01:22AM (1 child)

          by ChrisMaple (6964) on Wednesday August 05 2020, @01:22AM (#1031518)

          What part of the phrase "something like that" do you not understand? What part of "maybe" do you not understand?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @06:21AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @06:21AM (#1031588)

            Probably the same trouble you have with "by injection inside" or "almost a cleaning" where the subject was using disinfectants to "knock it out".

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday August 05 2020, @02:04PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 05 2020, @02:04PM (#1031713) Journal

        I have heard this mentioned several times by people like you and the various democrats on the site. Do you actually believe he was suggesting bleach consumption?

        Who are "people like you"?

        1. We all saw and heard the video of what Trump said.
        2. Yes, I actually heard him suggest that maybe we could find some way to use these disinfectants internally. (paraphrased)
        3. Then "people like you" say it didn't happen. We did NOT hear or see that! By order of the ministry of truth.
        4. Then the Trump administration comes out and says, why yes, what you heard and saw was what was said, but it was sarcastic.

        Of course, anyone with a working sarcasm detector knows it wasn't sarcastic.

        Oh, and I thought Republicans reserved phrases such as "people like you" for persons of African descent. (I mean no offense to black people.)

        Or are you just using it because it is politically effective?

        In case this isn't abundantly clear by now, I'm using it for one simple PRIMARY reason:

        because it was funny

        I'm also happy to make jokes about Democrats, and have done so. But then you don't seem to mind.

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  • (Score: 1) by Catalyst on Tuesday August 04 2020, @05:44PM (1 child)

    by Catalyst (7542) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @05:44PM (#1031316)

    B12 shots for everyone! Just promise the severe side effect rates of the vaccine near the severe side effect rates of the virus, and all's well.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @05:52PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @05:52PM (#1031320)

      Berryman B-12 will work even better at cleaning out your system

  • (Score: 2, Troll) by Bot on Tuesday August 04 2020, @06:05PM (1 child)

    by Bot (3902) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @06:05PM (#1031325) Journal

    still better than anything financed by Gates. Unless it is one of theirs too.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @09:36PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @09:36PM (#1031429)

      In Soviet Russia Bots praise Putin!

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @07:33PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @07:33PM (#1031367)

    "I am Legend" anyone ?

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Sulla on Tuesday August 04 2020, @08:47PM (5 children)

    by Sulla (5173) on Tuesday August 04 2020, @08:47PM (#1031401) Journal

    The SARS-1 vaccine had issues, e.g.
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2004/12/sars-vaccine-linked-liver-damage-ferret-study [umn.edu]

    Hopefully it all works out well for them.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @11:25PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @11:25PM (#1031469)

      And by 2004 no one really cared about a SARS vaccine anymore.

      Predict the same to happen with Covid-19; by November 3rd we can quit fucking around and let herd immunity do its job.

      • (Score: 2) by drussell on Wednesday August 05 2020, @04:34AM (2 children)

        by drussell (2678) on Wednesday August 05 2020, @04:34AM (#1031561) Journal

        Most typical coronavirus recoveries provide only 3-6 months of immunity to the same/very similar strain....
        You want this thing running rampant through the population forever?!
        Lifelong effects for many, even after "recovery" even if you don't die?

        Are you insane? (or just an asshat?)

        Perhaps both?

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @06:51AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @06:51AM (#1031605)

          You want this thing running rampant through the population forever?!

          I'm just not so naive to think we will have an effective treatment any time soon. Although you're free to keep praying for your common cold vaccine to come.

          Lifelong effects for many, even after "recovery" even if you don't die?

          Lifelong effects that have what kind of impact? Most of the world lives on normally with the yearly upper respiratory tract infections, even though it would be possible to identify lesions in the lung.

        • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Wednesday August 05 2020, @11:19PM

          by Pino P (4721) on Wednesday August 05 2020, @11:19PM (#1032015) Journal

          Do coronavirus recoveries provide only 3 to 6 months of any immunity at all, or just 3 to 6 months of antibodies followed by longer lasting immunity in the T and B cells?

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by c0lo on Wednesday August 05 2020, @12:38AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 05 2020, @12:38AM (#1031504) Journal

      sars-vaccine-linked-liver-damage-ferret-study

      Can't be worse than a lifelong diet of vodka.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @10:17PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 04 2020, @10:17PM (#1031448)

    Now Trump will promote the vaccine and all the 5G MAGA morons will suddenly realize THIS vaccine is safe because TRUMP verified it or something.

    Whatever works I guess :|

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @01:45AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @01:45AM (#1031526)

      Cause if Trump would promote drinking spring water, you would have to drink dish water. #Reesist!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @09:28AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @09:28AM (#1031625)

        Why do you inject your personal world view into everyone else? No want, ick.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @07:09AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 05 2020, @07:09AM (#1031612)

    Correction: Russia is going to do late stage trials on teachers and various gov. employees who are forced into it on the threat of losing their jobs.

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