Black doctors have created a task force to make sure COVID-19 vaccines are safe:
A professional society of Black physicians has formed a task force to assess COVID-19 vaccines and treatments, in light of concerns that federal agencies may approve vaccines and drugs without adequate proof that they work, Stat News reported.
The National Medical Association (NMA), which represents Black physicians and health professionals in the U.S., formed the task force following recent, controversial actions taken by both the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Food and Drug Administration (FDA). For instance, the CDC initially issued guidance that close contacts of infected people should only get tested for COVID-19 if they show symptoms, even though asymptomatic people can spread the virus; the FDA authorized the widespread use of plasma therapy for COVID-19 with little proof it works, and recently revoked its emergency authorization of hydroxychloroquine after patients developed serious heart, kidney and liver problems, according to the agency's website.
"There is a concern that some of the recent decisions by the Food and Drug Administration have been unduly influenced by politicians," Dr. Leon McDougle, a family physician and president of the National Medical Association, told Stat News. In addition, President Donald Trump has teased that a COVID-19 vaccine could be available before November 3, raising concerns that the vaccine approval process might be dangerously rushed before data shows the vaccine works, according to The New York Times. To address this growing uncertainty, the NMA task force plans to double-check that any approved drug or vaccine is truly safe and effective.
(Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday September 27 2020, @03:29PM (56 children)
And here I was afraid that we might not figure a way to bring racism into the coronaids issue.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday September 27 2020, @03:44PM (23 children)
Seems legit to me. We are told, repeatedly, that black folk are more likely to get the disease, and also that it is more deadly for black folk.
SOMEONE should investigate that, right? Who better to do the investigation than black doctors?
If black doctors sign off on the vaccination(s) then we can presume that all due diligence has been met. On the other hand, if black doctors won't sign off, that will only make us more skeptical of any vax rushed into production.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday September 27 2020, @04:59PM (21 children)
The black folks being hit harder is easily linked to Vitamin D levels that are already known to greatly affect the severity of symptoms experienced. Easily solved. So the only reason skin color would matter is if there was a causal relationship with intelligence.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:15PM (13 children)
Has mass media or the medical establishment taken up the crusade, anywhere in the world? If not, why not?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday September 28 2020, @05:20PM (11 children)
Damned good question.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday September 28 2020, @05:59PM (10 children)
Not really...
Is anybody of consequence making serious noise about it?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 01 2020, @04:37PM (9 children)
Of course not. It goes against their interests to do so. The fear they get from this overhyped flu is worth more than gold.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday October 01 2020, @08:02PM (8 children)
I don't believe it. If something works that well, they won't be able to hide it. There would be sufficient word of mouth to make the news.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday October 03 2020, @12:59PM (7 children)
Dude... You're constantly harping on the power structure being corrupt and the media is very much part of that. But you figure squashing, or even just ignoring, this one little bit of information would prove a problem?
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 03 2020, @04:19PM (6 children)
So what? We're supposed to be able to overcome that bullshit. The crowd has to make more noise, not depend on mass media. The corruption flourishes because it is accepted, and everybody wants a piece. That's why you have 90% reelection rates. The Power Structure™ is us. Everything about it is built by us, because we are good at following directions it appears and will believe anything the TV says without checking up. If we resist, it will either dissipate or exterminate us.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday October 04 2020, @02:38PM (5 children)
Good luck with that. Most people don't actually care about politics or even issues, they just want today to be more or less like yesterday was. Even if yesterday sucked. They prefer a known, stable set of rules to change. Works a whole lot like inertia.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday October 04 2020, @04:48PM (4 children)
You can't go around blaming some ethereal "Power Structure". We are it, whether we can fix it or not is irrelevant. We are the ones that make it work. The first step to rehabilitation is recognizing the source of the problem. It's exactly like any other addiction.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday October 04 2020, @05:23PM (3 children)
I don't disagree but you're fighting human nature the entire way to raise everyone's give-a-shit levels sufficiently.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday October 04 2020, @05:52PM (2 children)
Little to nothing about our nature is particularly "human". What has to evolve and prevail is human consciousness
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday October 05 2020, @01:04PM (1 child)
That doesn't even make sense.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday October 05 2020, @05:58PM
You're just not conscious yet
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by dak664 on Tuesday September 29 2020, @01:20AM
That's easy. FDA rules allow emergency use authorization (EUA) for vaccines only if there is no safe and effective treatment for the disease. It is worth billions to the drug industry to supress anything that improves infection fatality rate.
Think of those lovely $200 shots twice a year times 350 million people. And no liability, at least in the USA.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:19PM (1 child)
I do believe that there is a lot of truth in your statement. Still, it ain't gonna hurt anyone for a bunch of black doctors to research how and why COVID-19 fucks with black people. May I suggest that you contact them, and suggest that they focus on vitamin D?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday September 28 2020, @05:22PM
Missing the point. Nothing is helped in any way by making the group all black. That only harms the search for information and engenders a wee bit more race hatred than we had yesterday.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:49PM (1 child)
What does cononavirus have to so with intelligence? Except for the infection causing brain damage, of course; that's too late anyway for the vaccine.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday September 28 2020, @05:22PM
Researchers need some.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2, Touché) by claywar on Sunday September 27 2020, @11:36PM (2 children)
Or, it could be related to living conditions, pre-existing conditions, and many other potential factors. People, regardless of skin-color who do not have access to a high standard of health care will suffer worse for most disease.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday September 28 2020, @05:24PM
Nope, otherwise latitude would not affect it in exactly the same way. And the studies showing Vitamin D as part of treatment almost completely guarantees you will not end up in ICU, much less die, from the disease would not exist.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 28 2020, @08:16PM
ahh yes. the "poor negroes" excuse.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday September 28 2020, @01:42AM
Well, are these Thurgood Marshall black doctors, or Clarence Thomas black doctors?
Skin color is no guarantee of anything.
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(Score: 5, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday September 27 2020, @03:52PM (5 children)
Three words for you: Tuskeege. Syphilis. Experiments. And three more: Henrietta. Lacks'. Cells.
The US medical establishment has a loooong history of treating black patients badly, anything from unintended neglect (pulse oximeters giving less accurate readings on dark skin) to the previous examples of outright theft or even willful unethical medical experimentation on them. I don't blame this group one little bit.
So yeah, it's about racism in medicine, but it's about helping put a stop to it. As usual you have it ass-backwards.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @04:21PM
Anti-Vax meets Critical Race Theory. #walkaway [youtube.com]
(Score: 2, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:00PM
Yeah, um, you don't get less racism by making everything about race. You get more. Always.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Sunday September 27 2020, @08:50PM
Freedom of association!
Oh shit! Not those people, and not like that.
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by darkfeline on Sunday September 27 2020, @09:49PM
Maybe it has to do with the fact that blacks are genetically distinct from whites, yet we have to pretend that that is not the case and that we should apply the same medical knowledge and techniques to blacks as if they were the same as whites.
It's racist to say blacks are genetically different. But then that results in blacks dying more, which is racism. A bit of a catch-22 if I say. But then, the fight against unfair racial prejudice ended a while after MLK; now, it's a combination of virtue signaling, tribal stupidity, and an insidious attempt to infantilize blacks and make them reliant on pity from whites to survive.
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(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday September 28 2020, @01:48AM
While I agree 100% that U.S. medicine could/should do more for people of color, there's an inherent physical difficulty with pulse oximeters and people of color, and that is: how much color do they have?
The calibration curves are pretty easy to generate for people with insignificant levels of melanin (the majority of the population, I might add), but... a pulse oximeter calibrated for light brown skin will perform differently on medium brown, differently still on dark brown, and probably can't work reliably at all on ebony due to obfuscation of the underlying "data": the color of the hemoglobin at the site of the sensor.
Melanin is evolutionary tailored to block light, the very principle on which photoplethysmography works. Are there wavelengths that penetrate heavy melanin pigmentation and still give differential information about hemoglobin's state of oxygenation?
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @03:53PM (9 children)
Did you miss this? [reclaimthenet.org] There were real medical doctors replying to the JAMA tweet, arguing that race (genotype here) is a social construct and racism is the real public health emergency. [nationalreview.com]
(Score: 2, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:04PM
So two groups of idiots? Nice!
Race is not a social construct. There are actual genetic differences that are not purely cosmetic (Hi there sickle cell and melanin levels that cause coronaids-friendly, low Vitamin D levels!). There are none I'm aware of, however, that make you a better doctor.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:23PM (7 children)
Race *is* a social construct. That doesn't mean it's not real, it means it emerges from a number of other lower-level things most people don't have the scientific chops to understand, so they like to clumsily vacuum-pack it as "race" for convenience.
What's at issue here is the level even *above* race-as-a-social-construct, i.e., what people *do* with that construct. Down at the molecular level, the medicines don't give a shit what color your skin is. What they DO care about is differences in things like electrolyte homeostasis, vitamin D status, blood group antigens A/B/AB/O etc., and so on.
See where this is going? The doctors want to work on the low sciency level. Society doesn't want science, it wants to work on "race," which is largely of its own making. Entire systems get built on those cognitive shortcuts that may or may not map to the underlying science. The results of this can and *do* map to decreased well-being and medical outcomes for those under a given racial label.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @08:11PM (3 children)
> Race *is* a social construct.
No, it's a set of broad evolutionary characteristics. The most obvious being phenotypal - the morphology of the human skull. Or is that "socially constructed" too?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @10:53PM (1 child)
phrenology won't die!
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @11:44PM
Yes. Social constructionists belong on the same shelf as phrenologists, scientific racists, creationists, geocentrists and flat Earthers.
From varying Neanderthal and Denisovian admixture to the evolutionary effects of agriculture [pnas.org] the evidence is conclusive. Let's get "sciency"! [futurelearn.com]
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday September 29 2020, @01:50AM
No, it's what lazy, unsciency people do with the most obvious, most immediately visible outward manifestations of some of those genetic differences. That's what I said to begin with. At best, commonplace racial labels are convenient shorthands for several dozen clusters of genotypical traits. At worst, and much more commonly, racial labels are excuses to be an asshole to people you don't like.
You and people like you seem to have some serious reading comprehension issues. It's almost like your worldviews can't stand a direct collision with reality, so you have to carefully insulate yourselves from it...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @10:00PM (1 child)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @10:10PM
Correct. "Race is a social construct" and "we want to increase racial consciousness" are telltale hallmarks of the modern
anti-racist! [thepostmillennial.com] It's not inconsistent to hold Admiral Adama's UN speech that "we are one race, the human race" as an ideal while acknowledging biological reality.(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday September 28 2020, @01:57AM
Doctors are lazy fucks (but, you work in the field as a nurse, so you know this, right?)
They love to show off how quickly they can Sherlock Holmes a Dx off of the condition of a patient's finger nails, or the wax in their ears. Quick visual inspection from across the room: "Oh, that's a fungus, here's a script for steroid cream." Much of this "skill" is actually prejudice, and when they get it wrong in a minority of cases... oh well, it's called "practice" for a reason.
I actually garnered a compliment from a doctor's wife when she told a story about a two week episode she had with a paralyzed face, drooping on the left side. I offered up that driving long distances in a convertible car with the top down at high speed can lead to this kind of problem due to wind buffeting the trigeminal nerve where it passes through an opening in the skull. She said "Oh, great Dx - but it wasn't a convertible it was just an open window back in the days we didn't have air conditioning in the cars, and I had driven from Philadelphia down to Myrtle Beach just before it happened..." Nobody had ever offered that explanation for her condition to her in the previous 40 years, doctors LOVE connecting the dots like that.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @04:22PM (2 children)
Pretty sure we crossed that bridge when POTUS re-twitted conspiracy theories involving Chinese spies, bat eating and lab grown weaponized viruses while closing the borders with Asian countries but not Europe long after the virus spread into Europe.
(Score: 2, Offtopic) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:07PM
Man, that was a serious contortion to Orange Man Bad the issue with some whataboutism.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:28PM
Good point, if conservatives don't like discussions of racism then perhaps they shouldn't elect racist politicians!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @04:47PM
Yeah, there goes my "infinite monkeys theorem" as it is being applied to medicine to get a vaccine out next month before the new justice is sworn in
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:26PM (5 children)
You are the one that brought racism into the discussion. Or is anything done by a group of only black people now racist? I don't think you would appreciate that logic used on groups of whitr leople.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday September 28 2020, @05:26PM (4 children)
When they're considering race in their group formation? Yes, it's racist.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 29 2020, @05:47PM (1 child)
Nice attempt to derail the conversation from COVID-19 and into racist territory. Once again the results of systemic racism are now being used to attack the victims of systemic racism. You brought race into the discussion and don't want to take responsibility for your trolling.
Fuck off shitbird, no offense.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 01 2020, @04:40PM
When black is in the title of TFA, I am not the one who brought race into it.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 29 2020, @05:53PM (1 child)
Oh shit! I read further down and someone mentioned that the NMA accepts all races so I did a little reading https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Medical_Association [wikipedia.org]
Try being less of a shitty troll and more of a smart and honest person. It would do wonders for your self-respect ;)
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 01 2020, @04:41PM
What the NMA as a whole accepts is irrelevant. We're not talking about the NMA as a whole.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Sunday September 27 2020, @07:57PM (3 children)
It's not really an issue. A bunch of doctors got together, accepted black doctors - not the best doctors, and now are giving us their opinion. This opinion can be ignored, since there are many coalitions of doctors who pick members by credentials as opposed to skin color, and we should just listen to those people instead.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @08:31PM
Such underhanded racism is beneath us. Be best!
Love from your human brother,
apk
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @09:53PM (1 child)
Uh... The NMA was founded when the AMA excluded blacks from membership. While membership in the NMA tends to be black, they always admitted members by credential, as opposed to skin color.
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Monday September 28 2020, @06:53PM
Nice strawman. I never said they don't accept white doctors. What I did say is they pick members on the basis of them being black, not credentials. Your statement they pick them based on credentials is false. "(NMA), which represents Black physicians" does not mean "pick based on credentials." If it did, most of their members would be white and asian, since most doctors are white and asian.
Picking based on credentials in the second round after first picking picking the selection pool based on skin color is technically "picked on credentials." But it's not "picked only based on credentials." I'm not sure why you're having a hard time understanding that. So let me give you a better example.
Abortion rights. Let's pick the people making laws based on medical credentials. From a pool of people selected based on sex and height - short males. So what you end up with is abortion law decided by short men.
Oh the mind gymnastics...
(Score: 2) by dak664 on Monday September 28 2020, @03:31PM (1 child)
For whatever reasons of incompentence or malfeasance the top "experts" have for keeping silent on ways to improve immunity (Well, Fauci did say a while ago to eat well, avoid stress, and get enough sleep. Sleep is easy during the lockdowns, the other two not so much), their hand has been forced with respect to considering the benefits of vitamin D3.
Not following that up could easily be viewed as racist because of greater deficiencies among dark-skinned people. This group may well lobby for an objective trial. Or at least get a piece of the pharmaceutical pie by threatening to do so.
Fauci has now revealed he has been taking vitamins D3 (rumor says 6000IU) and C (1 gram suggested) and it could help others too, especially going into the winter months. Thanks for the timely advice, top official of charge of US infectious disease prevention.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday September 28 2020, @05:29PM
Lobbying? Sure. They've got a legitimate, racially relevant reason to lobby as a group. Making a group to do some science based on the skin color of the scientists? No, that's just racism.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @03:39PM (7 children)
What would our reaction be if a group of white doctors created it?
(Score: 1, Troll) by legont on Sunday September 27 2020, @03:42PM (1 child)
I prefer rainbow Eskimo doctors.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 3) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:09PM
Good point. You'll not see nothing like The Mighty Quinn.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by hemocyanin on Sunday September 27 2020, @04:45PM (2 children)
Well, the headline would not say "white" to begin with. Just like with crimes, the media relentlessly omit "black" when there's some crime -- even when police ask for help finding a suspect who is at large-- but make sure to insert black in front of every degreed profession. They never say white about someone doing something good, but if a white person commits a crime, they are sure to mention it then. It's almost like there is an agenda: white people bad, black people good. Of course the truth is that white and black people are both good and bad.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:31PM
You kidding? Black is mentioned so often in crime news reports. Maybe you racist dickwads should try fixing yourselves, getting so bent out of shape only shows how much yiu 'care.'
(Score: 2) by dry on Sunday September 27 2020, @11:58PM
Perhaps if the AMA had accepted people on their credentials instead of skin colour, there wouldn't be a need for an association of black doctors who accept anybody based on credentials?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @04:49PM
White doctors in a group is "racist". Any other race in a group is social justice, according to the Jews, and their Goi stooges, that push this shit.
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Sunday September 27 2020, @07:59PM
This doesn't apply. Just like a straight pride parade doesn't make sense. The reason for the organization of black doctors, is not to celebrate them being black. It's to celebrate the fact that black people were not allowed to be doctors, fought for their rights, and can now be doctors. Just like gay people had less rights, fought for their legal rights and now have them. Their parades and organizations are about them gaining rights, not about them putting their black penis into your asshole. faggot.
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by legont on Sunday September 27 2020, @03:41PM
There are rumors Russia is going into 2.0 lock-down on October 11th.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday September 27 2020, @03:58PM
The more the merrier.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: -1, Insightful) by bradley13 on Sunday September 27 2020, @03:59PM (15 children)
Is there an organization for Hispanic doctors? Asian? White? Native American?
Likely not. Blacks in the US appear to be all for segregation and racism. Why is this acceptable?
Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by fadrian on Sunday September 27 2020, @04:14PM (11 children)
Is there an organization for Hispanic doctors? Asian?... Native American?
You mean like these [aacom.org]? Do a fucking Google search before spouting.
White?
I think the AMA already has this demographic sown up.
Likely not.
As usual, the guy who sees racism against the majority as widespread is mistaken. Different outcomes for minorities in medicine is widespread, though. It's fairly well-known throughout the industry. I would see groups who are particularly impacted forming organizations to combat that. Unless you think that this is all BS, which frankly speaks more about your knowledge and/or character than anything else.
That is all.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @04:53PM (10 children)
"White?
I think the AMA already has this demographic sown up."
oh, the "all the other months are White History month" defense. As if all the rest of the time White culture is not under constant attack instead of being celebrated or even acknowledged. Nearly everything the 2nd rate humans of the world take for granted was imagined by the White Man.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:25PM (8 children)
Define "white culture," please. As distinct from, for example, Greek or German or British or Italian culture. What even is white? Remember when the US had "no Irish need apply" signs? Irish people are so damn pale they sunburn under fluorescent lights, but they weren't considered "white."
So...what is "white?" And how is it that the palest people on the planet could 1) not be considered white from the start and 2) become white? Obviously it has nothing to do with what actual color you are.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 3, Touché) by EEMac on Sunday September 27 2020, @10:53PM (5 children)
Here you go: White culture defined [capitalismreview.com].
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday September 27 2020, @11:27PM (4 children)
Interesting...this mostly reminds me of a friend from high school, one who was always buttoned-down and polite and ended up going to Cooper U...and was about the exact same color as recording tape! He looked like Urkel if Urkel had eaten 3 other Urkels, and a few dozen regional achievement awards for dessert.
According to this list, he's whiter than I am despite his skin tone. So am I to understand that "white" actually has nothing to do with your skin, but is rather a state of mind? Because if that's the case, what are all the pale-skinned trailer trash making up such a huge percentage of the American Southeast? Are they not white, despite being pale-skinned?
This is very interesting. Please continue :)
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 28 2020, @12:19AM
Carl Benjamin tackled this recently, to make sense of it replace "whiteness" with "Englishness". [youtube.com]
(Score: 2) by EEMac on Monday September 28 2020, @01:35AM (2 children)
You're 100% right. Your friend "internalized whiteness" and "abandoned his ethnic heritage" by choosing to be well-spoken, hard-working, and successful.
Palefaces in the southeast may be dirt poor, low-culture, and have no prospects for improving their lot in life. But they float along on a sea of privilege that millionaire football players, actors, and musicians don't have.
There is no limit to how deep or stupid this stuff goes. And people make good money spouting it. Look up "critical race theory" and "white privilege" for more information.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday September 29 2020, @01:27AM (1 child)
Soooo...white isn't about being pale, it's about work ethic and politeness? I had no idea you were a South Korean and Japanese supremacist! :D
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 29 2020, @06:33PM
Asians aren't actually all that polite... Just excessively formal. Saving face is the only reason for the veneer which is usually interpreted as politeness.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 28 2020, @08:29PM (1 child)
Mostly, i mean the Aryan/Indo European branch of the Caucasoid branch of humanity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race#Classification [wikipedia.org]
I'm aware of all the infighting of who is the whitest and i'm not terribly interested in perpetuating that.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday September 29 2020, @01:26AM
This includes Persians, Arabs, most North Indians, and a whole lot of other people most self-identifying white Americans would definitely *not* include under "white."
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:28PM
Has George Washington Carver endorsed your opinion?
Maybe I shouldn't even ask that. Liberal racists will condemn Carver for all the microplastics polluting the biosphere today. Fekkin' Uncle Tom probably wasn't really black after all.
https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/george-washington-carver [history.com]
(Score: 4, Insightful) by RamiK on Sunday September 27 2020, @04:25PM
Tuskegee [wikipedia.org].
compiling...
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:13PM (1 child)
Doctors Without Skin-Colouring Whatsoever And With, Sometimes, Creepy Pink Eyes
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 29 2020, @05:55PM
Well the org is National Medical Association and excludes no race soooo.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:58PM (4 children)
TFS title is obnoxiously offensive. The correct terminology is "Doctors of Color".
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday September 27 2020, @06:33PM (3 children)
Fuck your DOCs and POCs. I refuse to relearn the English language for the 37th time in my lifetime. Sometime in my young adulthood, it was insisted that "black" was correct. It will be "black" until I die. "Black Lives Matter", not "Colored Lives Matter".
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday September 27 2020, @11:28PM (1 child)
Psssst...you're replying to a troll.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday September 27 2020, @11:35PM
You like to eat too, don't you?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 01 2020, @04:43PM
Zuma got a point, man. That was obviously a joke.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @07:06PM (1 child)
Damn, just can’t win
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/should-black-and-latino-people-get-priority-access-to-a-covid-19-vaccine-2020-07-16 [marketwatch.com]
(Score: 1) by claywar on Sunday September 27 2020, @11:38PM
This seems to be a politically-correct version of an approach that was lambasted for its lack of ethics in the past; but hey, if we're going to tear down statues, we may as well ignore the learnings from history as well, right?