Futuristic sleeping pods for homeless people installed in German city:
Windproof and waterproof sleep pods have been installed in the streets of a German city in order to house the homeless.
The wood and steel cabins, which can fit up to two people, protect against the cold, wind, and humidity. They also guarantee fresh air circulation.
[...] The capsules are also equipped with solar panels, and are connected to a radio network, allowing occupants to communicate without dependency of mobile networks.
The creators of the “Ulmer Nest” have stated that it is made with those who cannot access usual homeless shelters in mind, either due to psychological factors or because they have a pet, for example.
They also note that there was a delay in installation due to the pandemic, but that they were able to install the pods in time for “the coldest nights”.
The article features a photo of one of the pods, which resemble pentagonal prisms in shape.
The project has a web site that defaults to German, but also has an English translation of most parts of the site.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 26 2021, @10:32PM (45 children)
That sort of thing is great if poverty is the only problem.
It fails when there are people who fail to respect property and/or people. The solar cells will get spray painted, the pods will be flipped over or ignited for fun, they will be used to dispose of garbage, etc.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by fakefuck39 on Tuesday January 26 2021, @10:54PM (44 children)
...Says the retard without a passport.
"There are no homeless people in Japan."
-says me, a guy who has lived in Japan.
this is mostly because people aren't complete retarded fuckheads, and because their families take care of their families, unlike here, where both the black and white trash don't qualify as parents - only as egg and sperm donors. But mainly because they pride themselves in working and don't expect handouts and welfare - they do a job, and they do it well (albeit very inefficiently). And because companies take care of employees, who are not replaceable, and are not disposable - even if they literally sit there and do nothing all day.
That sort of thing does not fail in Germany. Where I have lots of friends, a girl I dated for years, and have spent much time. The solar cells will not get spray painted, ignited for fun, or filled with garbage. Why? Oh, you answered that yourself. Because the homeless in Germany have respect for property and people, and are grateful for the shelter - they're not going to trash their place to sleep safely and go back to their cardboard box.
What you're thinking of is some idiot like yourself becoming homeless, in your own country. And to make yourself feel better about your own country, you're assuming people in other countries are the same as here. They're not. Do try getting on a plane to more than Florida sometimes.
But yes, depart some advice on us, about other countries, guy who has clearly never left his.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 26 2021, @11:04PM (8 children)
You get a coffin either way.
In Germany, https://www.ulmernest.de/ [ulmernest.de]
In Japan, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karoshi [wikipedia.org]
Deciding which is better, is left as an exercise for the reader.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by fakefuck39 on Tuesday January 26 2021, @11:28PM (7 children)
That wasn't the argument. The argument was that German homeless would trash the pods, and that they would be useful in Japan, which does not have homeless.
The people in Japan who overwork themselves to death do that voluntarily to get ahead. They take ritalin every morning, work 6 days a week 12 hours a day, and get extremely drunk every day after work. The people who are fairly comfortable not moving up and having a life that is fine but provides no riches, do not die from overwork. They average about a 50-60 hour work week.
The misinformation just keeps coming with you... This is what happens when an idiot who knows nothing tries to make himself feel informed without spending the time to learn. You are not informed. You are a moron, and every word you say just advertises that fact. I highly recommend not talking, but you do you.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:14AM
The argument was that German homeless would trash the pods
No, the bourgeois hipsters will.
Personally, I think it sucks that they give better shelter to office equipment than they do for humans. But, hey, psychopaths run the world.. How do you say C'est la vie in German?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:21AM (2 children)
If only you had the shred of sense to follow your own advice.
I highly recommend not using a browser after drinking heavily. That way your spit and puke will stay around you, and not adorn the long-suffering pages of Soylent.
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @02:50AM (1 child)
ah, zero to address the point being made, and another thing you made up. keep going loudclown. i don't drink. at all.
now if only you would stop having sex with sheep.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @08:06AM
Driving Instructor: "Can you make a U turn?"
fakefuck39 : "I can make her eyes pop"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @08:53AM (2 children)
Fakefloozy does it again. I recall quite clearly, after the crash in the '90s, blue tarp encampments along the rivers in all major Japanese cites. There was even a Movie that covered it, though slightly pron-grafical. Let's see, what was it? No, sorry, cannot filter out all the Nihon Hentai Hemo crap that exaeta has posted everywhere to isolate out the movie. But starts with a Japanese Homeless guy, of that era, and the treasure he left behind. And, No homeless in Russia, and no homosexuals in Iran, and no fakefuck69's on SoylentNews, eh?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:05PM
There's even that guy who lives under the bridge in Rilakkuma and Kaoru
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @06:14PM
Well cool. And guess what - back in the 90's Japan had a fairly big homeless problem. And they reported that problem by disclosing the high homeless numbers. You can literally look at wiki for those numbers. Then they addressed it and fixed it, and it has been steadily decreasing for those 30 years, to the point where for 130mil people they have only 3 thousand homeless. But you do you and get your information from 30 years ago and some movie you saw. This is what makes you a stupid clown, and stupid clowns entertain the rest of us normal people. Like the village idiot, you have a purpose in society. It's just not what you think it is.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 26 2021, @11:44PM (22 children)
Where did you go in Japan, a tourist district? Of course they have a homeless population. In general, they tend to be tidier and try to stay out of sight.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by fakefuck39 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @02:58AM (18 children)
lived in tokyo and dated a local girl. we went everywhere. there are no homeless.
lemme google that for you. oppppa -i was wrong. you are right.
there are 3000 homeless people in the country of japan. out of 126,000,000 people, 3000 are indeed homeless.
i'm guessing unlike you, i was in a tourist district. you were not in a tourist district. because you've never been to japan, and didn't even bother looking it up before shouting 'wrong.' but not only did you shout 'wrong' -you even provided extra informatiin on this topic you have no experience with, and no learned knowledge of.
i love people like you. it's literally someone loudly yelling to the world 'look at me, i am an idiot.' you are literally here to entertain everyone around you at your expense. the village idiot.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday January 27 2021, @03:22AM (16 children)
3,000 *that you know of.* Japan is still a very conservative, repressed society that, for all its modernity, is barely behind South Korea in how hard they go for the Confucian social paradigm. The very idea of homeless people would shame the nation and its self-concept; I would not be at all surprised if they're "disappeared," by being thrown into prison on false charges or otherwise, for that reason.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 3, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @06:48AM (14 children)
i'm sorry, what? japan is repressed and conservative? did you gey this knowledge from 50's cartoons? there are literal masturbation huts every other block. there are bars where you sit there and watch men get trashed and play 'dick chicken' - guy takes off pants and shakes dick in coworker's face, while others try to scare him to twitch. hookers for the elderly ate covered by socialized insurance. wtf are you talking about repressed and conservative? christians a'd the gop are repressed and conservative. the japanese are progressive socialized open perverts.
what you are talking about is what you saw on tv. just like in japan they think america is what's in hollywood movies.
so your answer to 3000 homeless is 'they killed them all and are lying?' did they just start lying? because 20 years ago they reported 10x the homeless, and instituted policies to fix that. and over those years, the %homeless very slowly went down.
any more conspiracy theories based on zero experience and zero knowledge?
japan doesn't have false charges. they have a high convictiin rate because they only prosecute winnable cases, and let other 'potential' criminals go free. as it should be.
lol. japan killed the homeless or threw them in jail on false charges. you're one step away from 'covid is a dem hoax'
i swear, the less people know about something the more they argue their made-up point. you're a moron.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @08:07AM (3 children)
Tokyo finally decided that it would no longer be mandated that light-haired students dye their hair black. That's just Tokyo though; elsewhere such rules remain in place.
WTF.
Japan is absolutely conservative. It just doesn't have the same concerns as the USA.
Even with sex, Japan is not a free-for-all place that doesn't care. It's a scandal if a female teenage pop star has a boyfriend.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:08PM (1 child)
yeah and all the japanese porn has the bits fuzzed out, what's up with that?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 29 2021, @03:30PM
Law in Japan. You can have all the porn you want but the naughty bits have to be censored.
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @02:25PM
conformist is the big word you're looking for. japan is left-leaning. but it's good you read a news article on hair. read more of them.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @10:58AM
You'd believe it if he said "Florida".
Yes, there are homeless people in Japan. There are also charities that help the homeless in Japan, which wouldn't make much sense if they didn't exist.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:44PM (8 children)
Every radical item you list is a logical and expectable response in a repressed society, like children of strict religious parents who go out and get hooked on heroin with their gay lovers. Two sides of the same coin.
🌻🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @02:37PM (7 children)
repressed is not conservative. overly polite is not conservative. school uniforms or hair color is not conservative. japans government and policies are to the left. The people can be viewed as conservative when judged by western value systems. Well, they're not in the west, and it's a different culture -a conformist culture. And to the east, the way westerners live is also conformist and repressed -just not in a christian puritain way. I do find it interesting how you link drig abuse wth being gay. This is because you are a 'concervative.'
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @03:46PM
Funny you bash Christians for conformity using the label "Puritan", an insult for a sect that last held any sway in the eighteenth century.
Today, the biggest conformists are the atheist Marxists.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday January 27 2021, @10:50PM (5 children)
The two are not linked, they're just top-line Holy Roller unthinkable inexcusable disownable offences that their children commonly commit.
Whatever shocks their parents is generally practiced by a large number of young adults. The tighter the parents hold the leash, the bigger the rebellious backlash tends to be - across cultures.
Tell a kid they're never going to eat an Oreo as long as they're living under your roof - what do you think happens next?
🌻🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Thursday January 28 2021, @01:11AM (4 children)
>being gay
>offences that their children commonly commit
this is seriously one of the dumbest things i have read today. congratulations. that's like saying being a girl is an offense children commit because their parents wanted a boy. being gay is not the result of being in an overly conservative family. it is the result of being born. children do not turn gay to rebel against parents. in fact, I'll surprise you here: neither children nor adults "turn gay" at all.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Thursday January 28 2021, @01:59AM (3 children)
Throwing gay in the face of your conservative Christian MegaChurch parents is most certainly an offense. Any good gay child of Christian MegaChurch parents knows you keep that shit in the closet or you risk embarrassing mom and dad in front of their fake friends.
🌻🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Thursday January 28 2021, @06:50AM (2 children)
you: get hooked on heroin with their gay lovers
now you: buh, buh, I was talking about gay kids making out in public
sorry bud, you're an official piece of shit. it's recorded history now. congratulations.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Thursday January 28 2021, @06:42PM (1 child)
TOTKO
Now go quote me out of context somewhere to seal the deal.
🌻🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Friday January 29 2021, @07:24PM
whatever dude. you said kids take on gay lovers to rebel against strict parents. yes, I'm an asshole -to you and people like you. and a murderer and the cop who shoots him are both killers. but i'm not a closeted retard who thinks kids 'turn gay' to rebel. that's just you, and methinks you're into assholes. ones on a man. you faggot.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:41PM
Every December 30-31, the homeless in downtown Miami are rounded up and shipped out to Krome detention center, about 15 miles West in the swamps. They are booked and instantly released because they have done nothing wrong. However, being homeless and without resources, it takes them a couple of days to get back into the downtown area where they can make money panhandling etc. and access such meager services are available to them there (as opposed to the total lack of services elsewhere.)
Why this end-year timing? Every year on New Year's day the Orange Bowl comes to town and televises live scenes from Miami to the world... can't have homeless in that picture.
🌻🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @08:58AM
"We are men of action. Lies do not become us."
OH, I see you have six fingers on your penis! Someone is looking for you!"
完全に無知な外国人
Nei!
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @09:00AM (2 children)
Yeah. In Japan there are quite a number of homeless staying overnight at places like train stations and parks BUT they pack up and move (or are forced to move) when morning comes. So most normal folk won't see them.
The Japanese are culturally conditioned to conform and to have a strong sense of shame. So I'm pretty sure the actual count could be significantly higher than the official counts. e.g. most of the homeless will try to hide themselves and/or their homelessness and the officials won't try too hard to find numbers that could be too embarrassing.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/03/02/national/social-issues/no-one-wants-homeless-glimpse-life-streets-tokyo/ [japantimes.co.jp]
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/downtown-tokyos-homeless-fear-removal-ahead-olympics-68470980 [go.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @11:00AM
Stupidfuck39 has guaranteed that there are no homeless in Japan. Stop posting fake news.
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @02:43PM
the people at train stations are not homeless. they are drunk office workers who missed the last train. your article is funny -did you read it? it mentions 'dozens' of homeless in tokyo. In a city of 20 million people.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday January 27 2021, @12:08AM (2 children)
Most aren't. However, last time I was in Berlin on Kurfurstendamm around 4am, there were some rather large men (not sure how retarded or fuckheaded they were) who only took three steps down the public toilet in the street then pissed down the stairs. Seeing that, and both not wanting to be pissed on by the next large man who came along and also wondering what these large men might be afraid of down at the bottom of the stairs, I followed suit.
Point being: respect for public facilities is not universal in Germany. A very small amount of police patrol of these facilities _might_ keep them in nice shape for a long time, if they are left to the lowest common denominator to maintain, yeah, I doubt you'd want to sleep in one.
🌻🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @03:09AM (1 child)
yes, you saw some drunk guys pissing hidden away in a stairwell. what you did not see is them destroying park benches or train station seats, drinking fountains, or even garbage cans on the street. i'm assumng much like public bathrooms a'd park benches and chairs are hosed down, these pods would be as well.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:37PM
Of course they gave thought to cleaning:
but it still sounds labor intense. Even youth hostels have guardian staff enforcing proper guest behavior and doing the inevitable necessary cleanup after them. Just tossing these pods out on the street and expecting the occupants to keep them clean for themselves and the next users that follow them? Not gonna happen, even in Germany.
Cost of construction and installation is one thing, ongoing costs of maintenance will be even higher if these things are expected to last 10+ years.
🌻🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:27AM
It's not all sausage-eating blond-haired blue-eyed people in Germany. There are roving gangs of Turks and Kurds that fight each other. Germany is full of people who destroy things.
Germans themselves were literally the original vandals. The origin of the word "vandal" is because of them.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @02:36AM (2 children)
This guys is beyond MDC level crazy. Anyone has link to google translator setting that will translate this drivel?
(Score: 2) by https on Wednesday January 27 2021, @02:46AM (1 child)
Mark as foe, then set foes to -6 on your settings: https://soylentnews.org/my/comments [soylentnews.org] (search for "People Modifier").
Or mark as friend, then set friends to -6. It's weird but works just as well.
The correct translation is probably, "I got mine so fuck you," but I'd have to change my thresholds to see it and be sure.
Offended and laughing about it.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by fakefuck39 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @08:40PM
Here's a fun fact. This only works for you - someone who mods politically. Everyone normal here reads at -1. You have the things you read selected by other idiots just like yourself, and miss out on most of the comments. Why do we read at -1? Because idiots like you misuse the mod system. Because idiots like the AC, who post anything that can be downmodded, as AC instead of using their actual account. And the only people all your hours of modding effect - literally are just you.
The fact that you need a translation to understand plain English goes well with the fact you spend your time on mod wars. The translation is, you are the dumb dirt at the bottom of the barrel. Not a person. And nothing you do, and none of the opinions you hold, and none of the bs information you write matters to anyone but yourself.
You absolute fucking loser.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @02:28PM
I have lived in Japan and Germany also.
In Japan, people are not generally homeless because their welfare takes a different form than in other countries. That is, they interlard every project with many make-work jobs that are not necessary for the completion of a project. Thus, it is common to see 5-6 people wearing vests and flagging drivers past a pothole repair. It weighs down the Japanese economy; on the other hand, those people with make-work jobs still have to get up and go to work every day so the reflex to work is preserved. Japanese prefer that, though, because social cohesion is their top priority. The individuals suffer a whole panoply of disorders in order to serve the mission of social cohesion, so the question as to whether the homeless pods would survive there remains valid: crazy people do crazy things.
In Germany, the question remains open also. It's why the city is testing and not just plowing ahead without testing. There are parts of the country that Germans are happy for foreigners to see. There are others that are as dodgy as certain banlieu in Paris. In those places garbage piles up and graffiti proliferates. Property is destroyed, and people get mugged.
The parent post you replied to you panned for assuming "people in other countries are the same as here," but you have gone on to commit the same error by assuming people in other countries are better than here, for some value of $HERE.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 29 2021, @12:29PM (3 children)
what about the human trash that imported itself in floods of humanity from poor countries? You know, the ones that stand on the street corners shouting about how great their god is? The ones merkel invited
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Friday January 29 2021, @07:27PM (2 children)
they're not homeless. they're given housing and about 2k eur a month in welfare. but yes, the jesus-preaching repent-trash on the corners, and knocking at my door at 8am on the weekend are lower class uneducated human garbage. glad you agree.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 30 2021, @09:44AM (1 child)
wow, for that amount and conditions i would move to germany
what do i need to claim to get this?
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Saturday January 30 2021, @05:51PM
you need to have no savings, and be granted refugee status. you also need to let the gov monitor your credit card and bank transactions. if they see you spending money on extras like a flight or a vacation, you lose the welfare. you also need to be looking for work. or, i have a friend who has been collecting welfare for 3 years now, without looking for work, because she's been getting a degree, also for free.
(Score: 4, Informative) by MostCynical on Tuesday January 26 2021, @10:45PM (16 children)
more pictures available here [boredpanda.com]
If two people are using these at one time, they will really have to like each other..
There is also no heating - from the "faq" page [ulmernest.de]:
In Germany and other parts of Europe, it can get very cold [orissapost.com]
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 26 2021, @11:00PM
A final solution? [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by Arik on Tuesday January 26 2021, @11:36PM
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 26 2021, @11:41PM (1 child)
"If two people are using these at one time, they will really have to like each other.."
I read that as "they will have to kill each other."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 29 2021, @03:16PM
sounds like the 'religion of peace' where words do not hold the same meaning as can normally be expected
death is rather peaceful, yes?
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday January 27 2021, @12:10AM (2 children)
Reading that part in the article, I thought that would be the point... A boy and his dog, as it were. Although, last time I got locked out of a youth hostel in Germany with a friend, one of these would definitely have come in very handy.
🌻🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:33AM (1 child)
Outside of a dog, a book is a mans best friend.
(Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @02:03AM
Well, inside a dog, it's too dark to read.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:49AM
We had a short discussion on IRC about those soldiers sent to sleep in the parking garage. We noted that the garage was dry, and out of the wind.
Those who have had any survival training will appreciate that. You can dig a burrow in a snowbank, and sleep comfortably, and safe from the blizzard outside. Simple shelters in woodlands consist of a few boughs thrown together to provide shelter from the wind.
Given that homeless people are generally accustomed to "roughing it", just being dry and out of the wind will make the difference between survival, and not surviving.
Yeah, I realize that not all homeless people are equally able to live through subzero temperatures - but these shelters should help a lot of them.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @02:12AM (2 children)
No heat, but I'll point out that a can of sterno is vastly easier to come by than a month's rent. A homeless person with advance warning might buy a can or two on extremely cold nights, and possibly even sleep comfortably. We can hope that no one is dumb enough to start any larger a fire, which might asphyxiate him/her.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @09:01AM (1 child)
Winter survival tips from Runaway! What could possibly go wrong?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2021, @01:27AM
I love heaping it on the fake news Q-ulter as much as the next, but he did cover with "We can hope that no one is dumb enough to start any larger a fire, which might asphyxiate him/her." Though if there isn't enough airflow into the pod one can might be enough to do the trick.
(Score: 3, Touché) by nostyle on Wednesday January 27 2021, @03:59AM
Probably much more pleasant than sleeping inside a recently slaughtered tauntaun.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:13PM (1 child)
Sure but there's no CCTV cameras inside so it's OK
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday January 27 2021, @05:47PM
[citation needed]
The Centauri traded Earth jump gate technology in exchange for our superior hair mousse formulas.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @02:35PM (1 child)
Having two people inside a pod can generate enough heat to survive quite cold temperatures. In wilderness survival and hunter's safety training they teach you that the best way to save someone from hypothermia after, say, he's fallen into a creek in winter, is to put him, naked, with you, naked, in a sleeping bag or blanket around both of you. All jokes about that situation aside, it's because body heat is a very effective heat source. For further evidence, arctic explorers and mountain climbers will often eat a scoop of peanut butter or lard before they go to sleep because the calories in the food will keep them warm at night.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2021, @04:37AM
911: What is your emergency?
Rob: My buddy and I can't get down the mountain until morning. He's showing signs of hypothermia.
911: Get naked, and wrap him in your arms.
Rob: OK, thanks, goodbye.
Daniel: What did they say?
Rob: They say you're going to die.
(joke also works for mouth-to-mouth breathing and for sucking snake venom from the penis)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 26 2021, @10:48PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33q1dgkEszg [youtube.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 26 2021, @11:27PM (7 children)
Install more homeless people in that german city. Win-win.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by FatPhil on Wednesday January 27 2021, @12:06AM (5 children)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @12:26AM
Yes, limeyland uber alles.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Socrastotle on Wednesday January 27 2021, @07:21AM (1 child)
There's always a danger in making things that should be in no way whatsoever desirable, acceptable. The risk is that it becomes normalized and consequently integrated into society. Instead of creating a more tolerable life for the homeless, you grow the institution of homelessness itself.
Take food stamps as an example. They were first enacted (in a permanent way) only in 1964. And the idea was obviously well intentioned. Saving up and working your way out of poverty is pretty tough if you're still struggling to put food on the table. Give people a little help there and you can make a big dent in poverty since these people can now focus on working and getting out of their awful situations. Yet in practice the program not only failed to make any meaningful dent in poverty (which was already in rapid decline in 1964 following economic/technological growth of the nation as a whole), but it effectively created a normalization of people being unable to independently feed themselves. Governments now regularly exploit this dependence to coerce votes, and corporations exploit by lobbying the government to direct the food stamp spending towards them. The idea it once stood for - actually solving poverty - is completely dead. It's only briefly resurrected to strawman any criticism. "What, how dare you criticize food stamps!? Do you hate the poor!? Do you want them to starve!?"
Imagine you see 50 years from now that 15%, and growing, of the population is living in homeless pods. It sounds hyperbolic, but so too would 40,000,000 people relying on the government to feed them. In fact such worries about such potential growth and dependence were brought up during the debates on food stamps. They were ultimately dismissed as hyperbolic sensationalism.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday January 28 2021, @07:42AM
The solution to the problem of homelessness is to create an environment from which self-improvement is possible, and avoiding self-improvement is not comfortable. Carrots and sticks.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @11:37AM (1 child)
Ah yes, the English.
Implement Brexit as they hate the Germans and their Fourth Reich....have a German Royal Family. Go figure.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday January 28 2021, @07:34AM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Wednesday January 27 2021, @05:50PM
That only works in the long run if the people in the pod ferment into useful fuel products.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @12:06AM (12 children)
Here in Oz, or at least in my neck of the woods in Sydney, we just give them camping tents & sleeping bags. Problem solved. Not everything requires a high tech solution. Of course winter here in Sydney is pretty mild compared Germany but I reckon the right kind of tents/bags would work.
Maybe the Germans have hidden syringes in those pods harvesting their blood for their hidden vampire overlords... okay I need to stop playing those kind of video games..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @12:19AM (3 children)
How do the homeless stave off the spiders, scorpions, snakes, crocodiles, dingoes, kangaroos, and drop bears?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:07AM
That's just population control - and not just homeless folks.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:55AM
Stave off? Nobody in his right mind would stave off food, you dummy! (grin)
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(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday January 27 2021, @05:51PM
How do the spiders, scorpions, snakes, crocodiles, dingoes, kangaroos, and drop bears stave off the homeless people?
The Centauri traded Earth jump gate technology in exchange for our superior hair mousse formulas.
(Score: 3, Informative) by sjames on Wednesday January 27 2021, @12:23AM (7 children)
Meanwhile in SanFrancisco, they have to get their own tents which the police will periodically break up and throw in the dumpster.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:21AM (4 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @02:40AM (3 children)
Ah, that was a hearty chuckle. Thank you.
I do appreciate the unencumbered take I often get from the Chinese nationals I worked with. They don't view the world through the woke lense, and stuff they say is quite refreshing. They had some choice things to say abut San Francrappo. Places like this make me long for the fatherland under the benevolent communist overlords. The streets were clean, and the craziest hobos never seen again!
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @02:41PM (2 children)
China has lots of homeless. Walk off the main avenues through the hutongs and you can see them living in hovels and lean-tos built up against the high walls of the expensive hotels and shiny universities. China is also orders of magnitude more filthy than San Francisco; the truth is probably that they're laughing at the Americans who make a big deal out of the (relatively minor) filth in San Francisco.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @03:53PM (1 child)
Parent said:
"China is also orders of magnitude more filthy than San Francisco..."
Given how dirty Chinese restaurants in America are, I believe it. Why are Chinese so damn dirty? Japanese and Korean are very clean.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2021, @05:52AM
Adds flavoring to the food. Its not just a a Chinese thing. Lots of asian 3rd word country are like that.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday January 27 2021, @05:55PM (1 child)
Why does San Francisco need homeless pods when San Francisco is, along with India, the only two places on the planet that openly welcome having open outdoor defecation in their cities? India is trying to actively decrease open defecation, while it increasingly increases increasingly in San Francisco. India is making more public toilets available.
The Centauri traded Earth jump gate technology in exchange for our superior hair mousse formulas.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2021, @01:32AM
Not sure what is wrong with people around here, but the pooping problem in SF really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. However they did shut down public restrooms because they didn't like cleaning them up, so can't argue that they should do more.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @12:39AM (6 children)
Gob loads of homeless in CA, even working families having hard time paying rent.
Don't hear nothing about homeless in Florida, another warm state.
Why's that?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @12:50AM (1 child)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Tuttle_Causeway_sex_offender_colony [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:28AM
Gators gotta eat.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:55AM (3 children)
In Florida, the homeless are referred to as "beach bums". I can't point to the kinds of homeless colonies that California has, but there are still a lot of them. I suspect that the police stay on top of the colonies better in Florida than Cal does.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @02:40AM (1 child)
You have no clue. You think Arkarsans are racists, look at LAPD and LA sheriffs.
Funny thing is, LA Sheriff is a hispanic.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @06:12AM
Nothing funny about it, everyone knows Mexicans are racist. You don't hear anyone else going "Mayate! Mayate!" anytime they see a black person.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @09:16AM
In Arkansas, the homeless are called, "cousins", and you let them park their RV on your land, give them a sewer slot and an extension cord. And then later arrange for a mysterious fire, probably from the methane build-up in the flexihose. Solves many problems at once, that does! But all the Republicans in Arkansas believe in Personal Responsibility, so there are no homeless, except Mike Pence. And Sarah, not he Palin one, the Huckabee one, where the son of man , well, Luke 9:58
And they call themselves Christians!
(Score: 5, Interesting) by engblom on Wednesday January 27 2021, @05:55AM (11 children)
I have a better solution! Do as my country is doing: make a law that everyone got right to live somewhere. My country is thinking that regardless of situation (unemployed, diseases, drug addict or any other situation) you need a place to stay at if you are going to fix your life. Try to imagine an unemployed homeless trying to find a work place. That is much more difficult for many reasons than someone having a place to live at. So those few that would be homeless are getting a place to live at for free (from tax money) until they can afford themselves to pay for their own living. Sometimes some are never affording and thus living off tax money the rest of their lives, but it is not a luxury life they get. They get barely enough to manage and if they ever want a better life they need to work like everyone else.
(Score: 2) by bradley13 on Wednesday January 27 2021, @12:47PM (7 children)
Um...how does making such a law solve anything? If you have a homeless person, possibly an addict, possibly mentally ill - they may have a "right" to live somewhere, but...where?
It's easy to declare something, but harder to make it work.
Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
(Score: 2) by engblom on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:05PM
If it is a law that the municipalities (or any authorities specified in the law) have to arrange a place with help of tax money, then they got no other choice. Otherwise those that supervise the authorities will make sure that those who did not take their tasks seriously are kicked from their positions and punished. It is one duty among other duties, for example as to arrange education.
By providing them a home they do not have to do crimes so they end up in jail (where they get cover and food) over the winter and those that do not prefer to go to jail are not scaring people in stairways and other places where they try to sleep over the night or to find warmth. All those problems are gone in my country.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday January 27 2021, @05:58PM (5 children)
They have a right to live somewhere. They can afford to live somewhere without having to work if we give them all Universal Basic Income. The UBI can be paid for by people who choose to work and pay taxes. I can't possibly see anything that could go wrong.
The Centauri traded Earth jump gate technology in exchange for our superior hair mousse formulas.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by engblom on Thursday January 28 2021, @05:54AM (4 children)
While a universal basic income would help in most cases it can not be used in all cases. Some of the homeless are on the street because they throw all their money on something addicting (alcohol, drugs, gambling etc). Those should not be given the money but instead a home and food "coupons". If we truly do not want homeless, we need to go take circumstances also into account.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2021, @01:16PM (1 child)
And then everyone on UBI will be labeled an alcoholic if they answer the question "Have you ever drank alcohol with the intent too get drunk?" honestly.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday January 28 2021, @04:31PM
I have never drank alcohol with the intent to get drunk. (yes, really)
The Centauri traded Earth jump gate technology in exchange for our superior hair mousse formulas.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday January 28 2021, @04:32PM
I agree.
The Centauri traded Earth jump gate technology in exchange for our superior hair mousse formulas.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 01 2021, @03:45AM
UBI needs to cover rent, and food, and enough for a basic fix. Then if they run low they dip into food money but not rent. And when things go well they are net positive on society. All the while dignity is more maintained and long term outcomes for society are much less costly.*
*I say this coming from a place with free universal healthcare though.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:00PM (2 children)
instead, make a law that only healthy people can have children, and only those who can afford it.
sound harsh, but wtf...
-zug
(Score: 2) by engblom on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:15PM (1 child)
Who says that all homeless got children? Some might, but I think the majority is not on the streets because they got children. How does a such law reduce homeless people roaming on the streets and in stairways? How does a such law that reduce crime made just because they wish to end up in jail during the cold winter?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @01:58PM
overpopulations leads to one and the other.
population control is the opposite.
before u reply with some stupid shit, i was not only talking about today, this hour.
i was talking about a terminal solution.
let those who get born have a right to a place, and not more should be borne then needed.
this applies to our time, our level in evolution, and our capabilities.
not to be applied on other species, or other times.