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posted by mrpg on Friday April 02, @02:13AM   Printer-friendly [Skip to comment(s)]
from the real-bad dept.

FDA slams “Real Water” linked to liver failure; water plant manager MIA

The Food and Drug Administration on Wednesday admonished Nevada-based company Real Water for being uncooperative in a multi-state health investigation linked to its “alkalized” water products. The company is accused of poisoning its customers, causing acute liver failure and other serious health problems in adults, children, and pets.

On March 16, the FDA and the Southern Nevada Health District announced that they were investigating cases of acute non-viral hepatitis (resulting in acute liver failure) in five infants and children, all of whom consumed the company’s alkaline water. The water was the only common link between the five children and infants. Since then, customers have filed several lawsuits making similar claims, including three Californian women who filed a federal lawsuit in Nevada March 22 seeking class-action status.


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The lead water technician for Real Water—a Las Vegas-based company that produces "alkalized" bottled water now linked to liver failure cases—testified that he had no relevant experience to be a water technician when he was promoted to the position last August.

Real Water's lead technician, Casey Aiken, 40, is a former vacuum and timeshare salesman who began working for Real Water last June after losing his job as a strip club promoter. According to a taped deposition from late March that was obtained by the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Aiken was promoted from his job of loading bottled water onto shipping pallets to the company's lead technician after "a couple hours" of training.

In late November, just a few months after Aiken's promotion, five infants and children who drank the water developed acute non-viral hepatitis, which led to acute liver failure, health officials say. [...] Real Water's branded water was the only common link between the cases.

[...] But according to Aiken's testimony, the company should have been aware of the problem with the water right when it occurred in November. Aiken's own dog developed a liver illness that month after drinking water Aiken brought home from work. The dog recovered after his wife identified the water as the possible source of the illness and told Aiken to stop giving it to him.

[...] "It is crucial that consumers, restaurants, distributors, and retailers not drink, cook with, sell, or serve "Real Water" alkaline water," the FDA said in its latest investigation update. "FDA also advises that this water not be served to pets."

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FDA Slams "Real Water" Linked to Liver Failure; Water Plant Manager MIA


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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @02:16AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @02:16AM (#1132365)

    This hepatitis water will hurt every other company selling alkaline scamwater.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @03:02AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @03:02AM (#1132378)

      Have any of you been to Nevada? It's nearly all desert which should be a tip-off that it's not a good place to get water. It's also known for gambling, with Sicilian characteristics, another reason to distrust water sourced there.

      Hello Captain Obvious? Why would anyone drink this product?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @03:24AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @03:24AM (#1132381)

        Do you need a talk with Captain Sarcasm?

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Friday April 02, @02:30AM (2 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Friday April 02, @02:30AM (#1132369) Journal

    A damn warrant is supposed to be issued post haste, cops should have raided the place a long time ago. but we don't treat a business as harshly as we do people.

    --
    Ok, we paid the ransom. Do I get my dog back? REDЯUM
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @02:33AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @02:33AM (#1132371)

      Depends on what you mean by post hasty. We'll probably have a warrant before the Biden administration ends . . . If you're in a real rush, just open a new box of Post Toasties.

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @02:37AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @02:37AM (#1132373)

        ...before the Biden administration ends

        Oh damn! That'll be next week!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @02:33AM (15 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @02:33AM (#1132372)

    I had recently noticed this became fashionable. Was there some health benefit touted in the media recently?

    • (Score: 0, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday April 02, @02:44AM (14 children)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday April 02, @02:44AM (#1132375) Homepage

      If Jews can't poison the wells, they'll just poison the water they sell you. Also the vaccines they sell you. Looks like poisoning Goyim is back on the menu since the Epstein Weinstein cash flow is cut off. You know, since Jews hate America and are accepting Chinese money to weaken America. Ask MIT and the Jew-run Ivy League if you don't believe me. Well maybe they can harvest some more organs from all those young folk they're bringing across the border.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @02:57AM (10 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @02:57AM (#1132377)

        This antisemitism is getting boring, here's the owner of Real Water, a Scientologist:
            https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/nevada/real-water-ceo-had-brief-controversial-political-career-in-nevada-2314838/ [reviewjournal.com]

        Before Henderson-based Real Water made national news as the subject of an FDA investigation and several lawsuits alleging health concerns, the company’s president made headlines during a brief career in Nevada politics.

        Brent A. Jones, CEO of Real Water parent company Affinity Lifestyles, previously served a single term in the Nevada Assembly from 2015-16 before losing his bid for re-election and failing to advance out of the Republican primary for lieutenant governor in 2018.
        ...
        In 2016, Jones was accused of forcing a former Real Water employee to watch videos based on the Church of Scientology as part of her employment. Jones, a Scientologist, denied the allegation, and the lawsuit was moved to arbitration. The result was unclear.

         

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @03:05AM (9 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @03:05AM (#1132379)

          Do you really believe there is a difference between a Jew and a Scientologist? Or a Mormon? Or a Lutheran? Or any of those other wacko cults?

          • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @03:20AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @03:20AM (#1132380)

            Yes. Their goals are different.

            • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @04:42AM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @04:42AM (#1132394)

              Oh please! You're nuts! The singular goal of all these insane cults is domination, well the cults aren't insane, the followers are, but the goal of the leaders remains the same, to rule the world, like Pinky and the Brain.

              • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @04:54AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @04:54AM (#1132396)

                Well what do you recommend for weekly community gatherings?

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @05:14AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @05:14AM (#1132400)

                  QAnon and MAGA indoctrination clips, followed by collection.
                  And a Trump rally once a year.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @03:30AM (4 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @03:30AM (#1132382)

            Yes, some of them proselytize a lot more than others. Never had a Jew or Lutheran come to my door with brochures in hand...

            • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday April 02, @03:37AM (3 children)

              by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday April 02, @03:37AM (#1132385) Homepage

              Found the Jew. "Uh, Jews aren't bad at all...and one 'o' them protestants isn't bad either, because I won't fool you if I defend only the Jews."

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @03:59AM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @03:59AM (#1132388)

                Booop, sorry, wrong answer. I'm the AC that mentioned "proselytize". I'm also the AC post-theological that occasionally posts like this one:
                    https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=5428&cid=129092#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

                ... When I first heard the term "post-theological" it clicked for me. Both my parents quit organized religion in their teens, and didn't promote any religion when I was a kid. For anyone interested, here's the first Google hit,
                        http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/our-humanity-naturally/201102/being-post-theological [psychologytoday.com] [psychologytoday.com]
                In grade school (in a highly Catholic area) I was often asked, "atheist or agnostic" and I had no clue how to answer...
                ...

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @02:44PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @02:44PM (#1132489)
                  I just answer atheist. Agnostics are cowards hedging their bets “just in case.” Even Richard Dawkins is really an agnostic, not an atheist, because he says there’s a tiny possibility that god exists. Frigging poseur. Just in it for the attention and the money.
                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @09:35PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @09:35PM (#1132644)

                    When I'm feeling clever...and talking with a monotheist, I sometimes use a line I saw years ago on the other green site, "I just believe in one less god than you do."

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @06:24AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @06:24AM (#1132408)

        Damn you to hell, Ethanol_addled! May you never work again! I prophesai that you will not end well! All your hatred will turn on you, and eat your liver from inside, like Mormon alkalai water and colodial silver and Noni juice, and cold fusion, and all the other scams that these religious cults pass off on the goyim. And you will pass inconveniently through the anus of Satan, or at least his Nike sneakers, and spend eternity shadow-banned from the Heaven that is SoylentNews!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @06:18PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @06:18PM (#1132569)

        Help is available. [helpforaddict.com]. Please seek it. Based on your posting history, it seems like you might be struggling with more than just ethanol, perhaps meth also?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @08:26PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @08:26PM (#1132615)

        Aye. And stupid Goyim doeant know that you can get alkaline water just by using reverae oasmosis filter. Sure it'w not ph10, but you should not be fucking around with that.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @03:35AM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @03:35AM (#1132383)

    Real Water™*
    * not real water. May cause liver failure. Consult your nearest Scientologist for help with Thetans. Avoid jumping on couches during interviews on TV.

    I saw an empty box from them Monday, made sure it was just an empty box somebody had used to ship other stuff, warned people if they see any of this come in the facility to put it straight into the dumpster.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @05:11AM (11 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @05:11AM (#1132397)

      I have it on good authority that the main ingredient is water.

      • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Friday April 02, @05:15AM (9 children)

        by MostCynical (2589) on Friday April 02, @05:15AM (#1132401)

        ... apparently with enough 'something else' to cause liver failure..

        --
        Books are a poor substitute for female companionship, but they are easier to find. P Rothfuss “The Wise Man's Fear"
        • (Score: 3, Informative) by deimtee on Friday April 02, @08:01AM (8 children)

          by deimtee (3272) on Friday April 02, @08:01AM (#1132426) Journal

          According to the label the only thing added to it is 25mg/l Potassium Bicarbonate. Seems unlikely to cause liver failure. I suspect there was a contaminated batch.

          --
          No problem is insoluble, but at Ksp = 2.943×10−25 Mercury Sulphide comes close.
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @11:55AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @11:55AM (#1132449)
            People were drinktit in high enough quantities to change their blood pHto 9. Pure water has a pH of 7. Blood is 7.35 The kidneys were working hard to bring it down by excreting as much as possible, the idiots drinking this crap end up even thirstier, and drink more. Eventually the kidneys fail.

            Same reason you don’t drink sea water if you’re stranded at sea. It will make you even thirstier and kill your kidneys.

            • (Score: 4, Informative) by EvilSS on Friday April 02, @01:49PM

              by EvilSS (1456) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 02, @01:49PM (#1132471)

              People were drinktit in high enough quantities to change their blood pHto 9.

              If you have a blood pH of 9, you are dead. A blood pH of 7.65 is considered extreme alkalosis and is usually fatal.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @11:56AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @11:56AM (#1132450)

            Contaminated by Chinese agents?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @06:11PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @06:11PM (#1132568)

              Chinese agents would have used monosodium glutamate.

          • (Score: 2) by EvilSS on Friday April 02, @01:55PM (1 child)

            by EvilSS (1456) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 02, @01:55PM (#1132475)
            Agreed. LD50 for potassium bicarb is around 2g/kg, and even then you would expect the issues to be related to the excessive potassium, which would show up as cardiac and muscle issues before liver damage could occur.
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @02:53PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @02:53PM (#1132492)

              These are the relults reported a couple of weeks ago when this story first made the news (the original story had more details, but obviously passed under the radar of the click bait brigade, because facts - too much detail is a bad thing when even goldfish have a longer attention span than many humans.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 03, @04:46AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 03, @04:46AM (#1132768)

            As the first post pointed out the unlisted 'additive' was hepatitis. This has been reported elsewhere. Sorry I don't have a link.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 03, @05:43AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 03, @05:43AM (#1132775)

              hepatitis really just means your liver is damaged. Saying the water had hepatitis in it is like saying the water had a headache in it.
              The article said non-viral hepatitis, meaning there was some liver damaging poison in the water.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @02:49PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, @02:49PM (#1132491)

        I have it on good authority that the main ingredient is water

        So was the water in Flint.

        Take a barrel of shit, pour in a bottle of wine, you have a barrel of shit.

        Take a barrel of wine, pour in a bottle of shit, you STILL end up with a barrel of shit.’

        Same principle.

    • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Friday April 02, @05:31PM

      by krishnoid (1156) on Friday April 02, @05:31PM (#1132558)

      I would have had them pour it out onto the lawn. Kind of gets the point across in a visualizable way. I might even go so far as to describe it as currently under investigation for "poisoning" fatalities, so no taking chances. And make sure they get the invoice/packing list to accounts payable so they don't pay/order it in the future.

      Eh, maybe that's overkill.

    • (Score: 2) by istartedi on Friday April 02, @06:23PM

      by istartedi (123) on Friday April 02, @06:23PM (#1132571) Journal

      Pour it down the drain. Drano is actually a stronger form of alkaline water. Water from rinsing fireplace ashes is also quite alkaline. In the Spring, I'll sometimes rinse ashes and pour the water down the bathtub drain. It drains noticeably faster after I do that. The Real Water is probably not even a very good drain cleaner though, because it would have killed much faster. If you let a bunch of it sit out for a while and evaporate, maybe you'll concentrate enough to get a worthwhile effect. The sewer systems can easily handle the occasional dumping of slightly alkaline fluids. The parking lot around the dumpster might not respond as well--it could corrode the dumpster, or run off towards nearby greenery and harm the soil.

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