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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday April 08 2021, @03:24PM   Printer-friendly
from the long-long-road-to-not-quite-recovered dept.

Study shows a third of COVID survivors suffer neurological or mental disorders :

One in three COVID-19 survivors in a study of more than 230,000 mostly American patients were diagnosed with a brain or psychiatric disorder within six months, suggesting the pandemic could lead to a wave of mental and neurological problems, scientists said.

Researchers who conducted the analysis said it was not clear how the virus was linked to psychiatric conditions such as anxiety and depression, but that these were the most common diagnoses among the 14 disorders they looked at.

[...] The new findings, published in the Lancet Psychiatry journal, analysed health records of 236,379 COVID-19 patients, mostly from the United States, and found 34 per cent had been diagnosed with neurological or psychiatric illnesses within six months.

The Lancet article includes this disclaimer:

Big-data studies of this kind have intrinsic limitations, even when drawing on 81 million people, 236 379 of whom had COVID-19. In this pandemic context, not all individuals who are infected with SARS-CoV-2 (particularly those with mild or asymptomatic illness) will be diagnosed, which could result in some contamination of the comparison groups.

The question: will severe, enduring, and less common conditions such as psychoses behave more like neurological disorders or common mental disorders? Among the COVID-19 cohort in this study, a first diagnosis of a psychotic disorder was substantially more common in patients hospitalised with COVID-19.

Lungs, hearts and brains..

Journal Reference:
Jonathan P Rogers. A longer look at COVID-19 and neuropsychiatric outcomes, The Lancet Psychiatry (DOI: 10.1016/S2215-0366(21)00120-6)

Previously:
Experts Warn Coronavirus May Cause 'Wave' of Neurological Conditions Including Parkinson's Disease
2020-06-15 Roundup of COVID-19 (SARS-CoV2, Coronavirus) Stories


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World-wide data as of: 20200615_140637 UTC:

total_count 8,028,325
closed_count 4,584,407
closed_deaths_count 436,277
closed_deaths_percent (10%)
closed_recovered_count 4,148,130
closed_recovered_percent (90%)
active_count 3,443,918
active_mild_count 3,389,380
active_mild_percent (98%)
active_serious_count 54,538
active_serious_percent (2%)
total_deaths 436,277

Experts Warn Coronavirus May Cause 'Wave' of Neurological Conditions Including Parkinson's Disease 116 comments

Experts warn coronavirus may cause 'wave' of neurological conditions including Parkinson's disease - ABC News:

COVID-19 can cause worrying neurological symptoms like a loss of smell and taste, but Australian scientists are warning the damage the virus causes to the brain may also lead to more serious conditions such as Parkinson's disease.

[...] It has happened before.

Five years after the Spanish flu pandemic in the early 1900s, there was up to a three-fold increase in the incidence of Parkinson's disease.

Kevin Barnham from the Florey Institute of Neuroscience and Mental Health said he believed a similar "silent wave" of neurological illness would follow this pandemic.

"Parkinson's disease is a complex illness, but one of the causes is inflammation, and the virus helps to drive that inflammation," he said.

"Once the inflammation gets into the brain, it starts a cascade of events which can ultimately lead to Parkinson's disease.

Researchers outlined their concerns in a study published today in the Journal of Parkinson's Disease.

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @03:33PM (102 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @03:33PM (#1134806)

    One third of Americans claim to suffer from neurological or mental disorders from COVID but are actually looking for welfare handouts, one third of Americans are waddling lard-asses, and one third actually deserve to live.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Tork on Thursday April 08 2021, @04:10PM (89 children)

      by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 08 2021, @04:10PM (#1134822)
      Maybe one-third attended Trump Rallies?
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      • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @04:40PM (87 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @04:40PM (#1134840)

        At least Trump has actual, real-life supporters.

        • (Score: 3, Touché) by DannyB on Thursday April 08 2021, @04:58PM (4 children)

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 08 2021, @04:58PM (#1134851) Journal

          Supporters?

          You mean those [twimg.com] things [i.redd.it] in his shoes that make him appear almost as tall as other people?

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          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:34PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:34PM (#1134874)

            So we see that TDS causes more mental problems than the CCP virus.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:42PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:42PM (#1134880)
              TDS didn't drive people to rallies to visit a contagious person.
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @10:42PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @10:42PM (#1135059)

            Those pictures show Trump sitting. He just relaxes, cooling his feet and unbending his ankles, by pulling his feet out of his shoes. Ladies do this all the time. Maybe he's the first tranny president.

            Mike Dukakis, the democrat candidate for 1988, was so short that the democrats got a hydraulic lift for the stage so that shorty could see over the podium.

            • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday April 09 2021, @02:26PM

              by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 09 2021, @02:26PM (#1135297) Journal

              There are many more pictures than what I showed. Google is your fiend. Some pictures show Trump standing up with his heels barely inside his shoes.

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        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Tork on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:25PM (81 children)

          by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:25PM (#1134867)
          Why is that a bragging point? Shouldn't he be doing what YOU want, ya know cos he's a public servant, instead of you guys having to wrestle in the mud on a daily basis defending everything he does? Did you guys really not learn a lesson at the Capitol about blindly supporting your candidate?
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          • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:31PM (8 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:31PM (#1134872)

            At least Trump has actual, real-life supporters

            • (Score: 5, Informative) by Tork on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:39PM (7 children)

              by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:39PM (#1134876)
              Again... why is that something to boast about? He clearly didn't have enough!
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              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:43PM (6 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:43PM (#1134883)

                He clearly didn't have enough!

                You are only supposed to count actual living human beings, and only one time each.

                • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:47PM (4 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:47PM (#1134886)
                  We're familiar with Infowars.
                  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:55PM (3 children)

                    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:55PM (#1134966) Homepage

                    Do you remember the part about how what Infowars was saying scared the Jews so bad, they got cancelled before cancel-culture was a thing? Alex Jones got listed as an "extremist" by the ADL because and only because he implied a government connection to 9/11, even though in the same blurb the ADL admits that Alex Jones is not on the record saying anything racist or anti-Semitic.

                    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:32PM (2 children)

                      by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:32PM (#1134985)

                      No, but I do remember that part where Alex Jones lied about the Sandy Hook shootings so he could sell more dietary supplements to stupid fat people.

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:02PM (1 child)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:02PM (#1135002)

                        The pills clearly didn't work for you. You should've asked for your money back.

                • (Score: 2) by Tork on Thursday April 08 2021, @06:20PM

                  by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 08 2021, @06:20PM (#1134907)
                  Neither the loser nor the leaky-haired guy that shouted that at you ever produced any proof that would exonerate your buddies at the Capitol. Again, why is this a bragging point?
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          • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DannyB on Thursday April 08 2021, @06:57PM (69 children)

            by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 08 2021, @06:57PM (#1134923) Journal

            You bring up something I had not considered.

            The very fact that Trump has a band of people who wrestle in the mud on a daily basis defending everything he does is quite interesting.

            Trump is out of office. Gone. President-reject. Not in power. Not relevant.

            Yet his supporters . . .
            * stormed the capitol to murder (yes that's the right word) both Mike Pence, Nancy Pelosi and possibly others, over something they have not power to change. In an act of insurrection to overthrow the majority and put the minority in power.
            * . . . based on a lie, told by the president soon to be out of power
            * after he was out of power, many predictions he would be back in power. (Most recent is Mike Lindell (My Pillow) guy predicting Trump will be back in power this August because "he has the evidence!" -- finally! And the Supreme Court will completely undo the 2020 election!)
            * they made a golden statue of Trump
            * some people were on video actually bowing down to it. (Maybe facetiously or maybe not)
            * they continue to send him money
            * continue to attend his rallies
            * defend anything critical about him -- because he can do absolutely no wrong! (Hey, I'm happy to let people point out errors, mistakes etc about any politicians I may have voted for. I voted for them for policies, not as a religious icon.)

            Which brings me to . . .

            Basically Trump seems to actually be a religious icon to these people.

            They might not admit it. But it is true in every observable way.

            Every past politician, whether I voted for them or not, I've always had something I disagreed with them about, and even for ones I didn't vote for, sometimes had policies I agreed with them about. No such religious devotion from me.

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            • (Score: 4, Informative) by Tork on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:02PM (3 children)

              by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:02PM (#1134925)

              * they continue to send him money

              Now now wait a minute, man, that's FAKE NEWS! Trump Supporters aren't willingly handing him money, the Trump Campaign's auto-pay is just pulling from their accounts over and over again!

              https://blog.truebill.com/recurring-campaign-contributions/ [truebill.com]

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              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:45PM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:45PM (#1134992)

                From your link:

                @Jeremy Diamond
                6:46 PM - 3 Aug 2016 - Florida, USA, United States

                Do you think, anything's changed in the last... four and a half years?

                • (Score: 4, Touché) by Tork on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:13PM (1 child)

                  by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:13PM (#1135009)
                  Oops, you're right. Two days ago recent enough [thehill.com]?


                  p.s. How'd you NOT know about this, surely your preferred news sources covered it...?
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                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:28PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:28PM (#1135019)

                    Even if you can't figure out how to stop the auto-refill on those pills, nobody says you have to keep taking 'em.

                    $122 million in refunds to supporters in 2020...

            • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:30PM (59 children)

              by krishnoid (1156) on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:30PM (#1134939)

              Basically Trump seems to actually be a religious icon to these people.

              How? I mean ... what does it take to pull something like that off? Fascism as a religious concept? [wikipedia.org] Confidence? Arrogance? Height? Gold leaf on everything you own?

              • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Tork on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:33PM (6 children)

                by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:33PM (#1134941)
                Tell people their lives suck and it's someone else's fault. Unity in a common foe, real... or imagined in this case, works.
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                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:53PM (2 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:53PM (#1134964)

                  Words of wisdom, accidentally spoken.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:09PM (1 child)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:09PM (#1134973)
                    Muslims, southern (not northern) border-crossers, the gay community, the trans community, china, baby-eating lefties, masks, pandemic-caused lockdowns, starbucks holiday cups, dark skinned athletes kneeling during anthems, boycotts rebranded as cancel-culture, large blue cities, non-existent pedos (but no interest in real ones), mail-in voting (during a pandemic?!?), the post office, media coverage of misdeeds...
                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @12:42AM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @12:42AM (#1135112)

                      Lest we forget, Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.

                • (Score: 0, Redundant) by Ethanol-fueled on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:12PM (2 children)

                  by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:12PM (#1134975) Homepage

                  " The Jews are behind this "

                  N-no! N-not that somebody else! Oh look, here are some nice White Goys to beat up instead! Wouldn't you like to beat on Whitey a bit for all those years of oppression?

                  By the way, studies show that COVID-19 causes mental illness, so if you refuse the vaccine, you're just crazy. We could throw you in the nuthouse how, like how great grandfather Ivan Jablonsky did to Russian Goys long time ago, or perhaps you'd like to take the edge off the schizo by taking some nice Jewish medicine from trusted establishments!

                  Wear your mask! Take your meds schizo!

                  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Tork on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:22PM (1 child)

                    by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:22PM (#1134979)
                    Somehow I doubt your proof of my point was intentional.
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                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:12PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:12PM (#1135007)

                      Your point was all in your head. Or thereabouts.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:35PM (49 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:35PM (#1134942)

                Keep grasping. One day it won't be all straws, I promise!!!!

                • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:48PM (47 children)

                  by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:48PM (#1134956) Journal

                  Says a Trump worshiper.

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                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:49PM (46 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:49PM (#1135037)

                    I'll take the bait, this time.

                    See, it's not about Trump.

                    Maybe, in shorthand, it's about MAGA.

                    A little less short, it's about America and Freedom and Justice... a dream fought and died for, for generations. We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor.

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:57PM (2 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:57PM (#1135039)
                      .. and blindly follow the lies of a man who has done nothing for you. So noble.
                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @10:29PM (1 child)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @10:29PM (#1135049)

                        Sigh. See post above yours for rebuttal.

                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @10:48PM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @10:48PM (#1135061)
                          Sigh. See reality for rebuttal.
                    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday April 08 2021, @10:57PM (41 children)

                      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday April 08 2021, @10:57PM (#1135065) Journal

                      The saddest part is, you believe this.

                      You actually believe a grifting wealthy (on paper) psychopath from New York City who literally shits in a golden toilet in a penthouse in Manhattan is a man of the people.

                      Un. Fucking. Believable. You deserve whatever suffering comes your way. Stupidity ought to be excruciatingly painful. That "cuck" thing your kind likes to throw around so much? Yeah, that's you and your boys.

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                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @11:24PM (20 children)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @11:24PM (#1135076)

                        It's all in the post.

                        Trashing Trump is sooooo 2020. How about Raving Robinette? List his wonderfulnesses.

                        Okay, ready? Go!

                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @11:46PM (1 child)

                          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @11:46PM (#1135084)

                          Must really grind you up inside that liberals don't fall all over themselves defending Biden. The dude is a Republican we didn't want, but still better than letting a literal fascist have 4 more years. Cry baby cry, nothing's changed except the temporary brakes on the US's fascist downfall. Go fuck yourself traitor.

                          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @12:18AM

                            by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @12:18AM (#1135101)

                            Oh, we get it. If he were AOC, you'd be gushing about the glory of it all. But as it is, You can't wait for him to take that last stumble, and let Kommie Harris take over.

                        • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday April 08 2021, @11:57PM (8 children)

                          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday April 08 2021, @11:57PM (#1135089) Journal

                          At this point, the fact that he's not Donald Motherfucking Trump is all he would need in his favor.

                          I find it very revealing that your kind insist that we have the same sort of blind, tribal loyalty to our leaders as you do. This is a fundamental disconnect in how "conservatives" (read: unthinking, reactionary cryptofascists like you) deal with the world versus how people like me do. Biden is a person, nothing more, and probably about as much of a figurehead as Dubya was last decade. We don't care WHO is doing the right things, we only care THAT the right things get done. We do not work like you. We are not stupid, tribal morons who value in-group loyalty over observable reality.

                          Trump is indeed a religious symbol, and you and your kind are idolators to perhaps the single most pathetic, ugly, weak false God there ever was.

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                          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @12:16AM

                            by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @12:16AM (#1135100)

                            Yeah, Obama said that about us... each one of us is a typical white person.

                          • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @01:15AM (4 children)

                            by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @01:15AM (#1135123)

                            I'm not looking for a figurehead, but a leader. I've never watched his primetime TV shows, and I've had minimal business with Trump companies. A friend to me is someone who would be fun to have lunch with. Trump would be tough at lunch. I think of him as a bright and cunning businessman who wants desperately to win but has a sense of ethics about it (but still wants to win). Basically, I'm glad he was and is on our side. I'm unimaginably relieved that he's not on your side.

                            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday April 09 2021, @02:09AM (3 children)

                              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday April 09 2021, @02:09AM (#1135157) Journal

                              And that is your weakness: you are looking for a leader, a single charismatic focus, when the world does not and cannot work this way. The real meat of politics is grinding drudgery. The "leader" is a shiny bobblehead distraction. It is a symbol, for the symbol-minded (that's you).

                              One reason I still voted Democrat despite a serious dislike of Biden bordering on hatred for his past record is because I knew Biden himself wasn't actually going to do much. It's the cabinet and administration that are, arguably, more important than the president, and while I'm none too thrilled with some of his picks there either, he's making it a point NOT to surround himself with crazies, incompetents, and incompetent crazies like Trump did.

                              You stupid goddamn tribals are so fixated on your father-figures, your objects of worship, that you can't even understand something as simple as this, and you insist that people who vote differently from you are just like you but oppositely-polarized. No, cupcake, we are dealing with *reality.*

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                              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @02:27AM (2 children)

                                by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @02:27AM (#1135170)

                                We're all alike, of course. My concern isn't about HbAiRdReInS- Administration figureheads, but the people behind the curtain. You're going to love the communist paradise they've scheduled, after they pass HR1 and ensure that no Patriotic American is ever elected again.

                                • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday April 09 2021, @05:07AM

                                  by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday April 09 2021, @05:07AM (#1135213) Journal

                                  If you actually think Trump was a patriot you are beyond the use of reason. Your mouth is moving and words are coming out, even complete coherent sentences, but they have no referent in reality. This means you are insane.

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                                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @12:59AM

                                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @12:59AM (#1135571)

                                  If Biden and Harris were anything like communists, I would have voted for them. Too bad they're just Republicans that don't care about gays.

                          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @04:12AM (1 child)

                            by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @04:12AM (#1135201)

                            Anyone but Trump?

                            Now there is a good example of critical/logical thought!!

                            ...

                            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @11:34PM

                              by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @11:34PM (#1135533)

                              Ok fair enough, there are undoubtedly some choices worse than trump. You are technically correct, which in this case is the stupidest kind of correct.

                        • (Score: 2) by Tork on Friday April 09 2021, @12:05AM (8 children)

                          by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 09 2021, @12:05AM (#1135094)
                          The problem with projection is that you don't notice critically important details like Biden Supporters aren't running around in blue hats going "he didn't really trip on the plane it's fake news!"
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                          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @12:13AM (7 children)

                            by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @12:13AM (#1135099)

                            I've tripped and skinned my shin, just like Joe did. But I didn't take preemptive offense that people would interpret it as a sign of my diminished capacity. Completely ignoring his bumbling and stumbling while trying to read from a prompter or notes, is much more troubling.

                            • (Score: 2) by Tork on Friday April 09 2021, @12:26AM (6 children)

                              by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 09 2021, @12:26AM (#1135104)
                              Well, you've got a point, we've yet to Biden's results from the cognitive test Trump passed with flying colors.
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                              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @01:39AM (5 children)

                                by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @01:39AM (#1135129)

                                Don't forget, we're still waiting for that State Of The Union Address we were promised.

                                Maybe they made a mistake, and Nancy tore it up before reading, instead of after. Either that, or Joe's attack dog ate it.

                                • (Score: 2) by Tork on Friday April 09 2021, @01:57AM (4 children)

                                  by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 09 2021, @01:57AM (#1135140)

                                  Don't forget, we're still waiting for that State Of The Union Address we were promised. Maybe they made a mistake, and Nancy tore it up before reading, instead of after. Either that, or Joe's attack dog ate it.

                                  Not bad! I particularly like the dog eating the speech, nice dig!

                                  Bet you're wishing Biden was fat or smelly or something right about now, huh.

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                                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @02:10AM (3 children)

                                    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @02:10AM (#1135160)

                                    No, I wish that of his handlers. And his son Hunter. And Barry O.

                                    I wish Joe would go away quietly and with dignity and have a grand retirement. I was the primary caregiver when a family member slipped into dementia. It gets so amazingly sad toward the end, and that comes upon one so quickly, starting right about where Joe is now. [Insert "September Song" reference here.]

                                    • (Score: 2) by Tork on Friday April 09 2021, @02:48AM (2 children)

                                      by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 09 2021, @02:48AM (#1135182)

                                      You know... I hadn't looked at it that way... I had no idea! I'm so sorry you're having to relive these fears after four years ! ! ;)

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                                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @03:35AM (1 child)

                                        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @03:35AM (#1135192)

                                        When Joe first promised to solve every major issue in his first 100-days, I was betting he wouldn't make it. Now, it seems he really isn't involved in much of it.

                                        • (Score: 2) by Tork on Friday April 09 2021, @04:15AM

                                          by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 09 2021, @04:15AM (#1135202)
                                          You have a hilarious idea of where the bar was sitting last year. ;)
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                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @12:56AM (6 children)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @12:56AM (#1135116)

                        Do you believe the country is better off now with the raspberry-faced man, than it was with the orange man and his gold toilet? Things like economy, education, security, international relations, border, race, debt, inflation, prospects, toilet paper availability are better?

                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @01:49AM (5 children)

                          by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @01:49AM (#1135133)
                          Yes.

                          Economy - virtually anything's better than an ill-timed tax-cut with no plan to deal with the revenue shortfall. Oh and an infrastructure plan is badly needed for the USA anyway. Education - You can't be fucking serious, pleassssse tell me how you're gonna defend Betsy Devos. Security - no new insurrections since Joe took over, definitely a win there. Our generals in the Pentagon are COVID-free as well, that's a plus this year. International Relations - Joe's big on gaffes but I'm having a hard time imaging he'll salute the general of an enemy dictator or send a half-tweet that puts the Pentagon on high alert for fifteen minutes. Border - most of your border problems are fictitious, and the wall was just a pork project. Biden's already gotten very public criticism over the kids in cages (why didnt you guys ever stand up to your candidate? HE WORKED FOR YOU!) so if he neglects that you could have a point with lefties standing shoulder to shoulder with you. Race - You can't be serious, even as VP Biden's track record was already better. Debt / Inflation - too early to tell, you could have a point here down the road. Trump faced this and never gave you a serious proposal about what he was going to do about it. Lotsa time for golf and campaigning, tho. Prospects - Yep, though the Potatohead Branding was pretty touch-and-go for a while there, we barely got through that.

                          Medical Care - What a rather telling omission from you. Yes I *definitely* feel a lot better about that.


                          Oh and the Inauguration was better, too. ;)
                          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @02:16AM (3 children)

                            by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @02:16AM (#1135165)

                            There's a whole world of news services out there to see. As Tex Ritter sings in current Disney TV commercials: There's a great big beautiful tomorrow, waiting at the end of every day. Of course they're advertising going to Florida, not California. The point is that there are known knowns, and unknown knowns, and unknown unknowns, and you're better off looking around.

                            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @02:53AM (2 children)

                              by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @02:53AM (#1135184)
                              How did four years of the endless convoluted defense of a narcissistic buffoon NOT end in you doing just that...?
                              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @03:32AM (1 child)

                                by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @03:32AM (#1135191)

                                Convolution is a specialty. It takes the ability to wander for a half hour and have the confidence that the reader trusts you to get back to where you... it's like trying to write a story, and have no idea where you're going, and hoping the reader thinks you do. Kind of like when you decide that you're supposed to talk about Trump and you really want to work in the topic of Biden sniffing hair, but then you get to comparing hair, and realize there's no clear winner between Trump and Biden. Except that Trump does an excellent job with hair spray. Trust me.

                                I'll tell you the truth of this whole matter, when the powers that be finish moderating this thread, you're all going to be +4 Insightful, and I'm going to be all -1 Troll.

                                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @06:11AM

                                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @06:11AM (#1135224)

                                  I'll tell you the truth of this whole matter, when the powers that be finish moderating this thread, you're all going to be +4 Insightful, and I'm going to be all -1 Troll.

                                  A honest admission of a troll.

                          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @02:19AM

                            by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @02:19AM (#1135168)

                            Ah hah! Medical Care! What about global warming and saving the Texas Prairie Chickens? Huh?

                      • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Friday April 09 2021, @02:05AM (3 children)

                        by krishnoid (1156) on Friday April 09 2021, @02:05AM (#1135149)

                        You actually believe a grifting wealthy (on paper) psychopath from New York City who literally shits in a golden toilet in a penthouse in Manhattan is a man of the people.

                        So does 40% of the US voting population. What made that possible? It sounds like a "My Fair Lady" or "Trading Places" bet run by psychologists.

                        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday April 09 2021, @04:38AM (2 children)

                          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday April 09 2021, @04:38AM (#1135207) Journal

                          What made it possible is people are goddamn stupid, that's what. It's on a bell curve, but the curve is massively right-skewed in more than one sense of the term and it's easy to manipulate stupid people. Just tell them everything wrong in their lives is someone else's fault and "if you elect me I'll make all the nig^W dar^W col^W Negr^W THOSE PEOPLE, dammit, pay, and put you back on top where you belong!"

                          --
                          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                          • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Friday April 09 2021, @07:21PM (1 child)

                            by krishnoid (1156) on Friday April 09 2021, @07:21PM (#1135448)

                            Then why did it take so long for someone to try this? Seems like it should have happened a long time ago if this is the case. Plus, the entire Republican party backed him every step of the way -- how difficult could this have been?

                            • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @11:39PM

                              by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @11:39PM (#1135535)

                              Because it took a decades-long campaign of propaganda to radicalize Republicans far enough along with the political maneuvering through gerrymandering and voter suppression to make the move possible.

                              I disagree with Azuma that it was only because people are stupid, and it was more about the blatant propaganda and lies through Fox News and rightwing pundits. Also quite a few of them chose power of ethics because they are still in the cold war mindset. Not stupid, just choosing evil because they thought it was a secret plan for the good of the country.

                      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @03:42AM (8 children)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @03:42AM (#1135194)

                        The saddest part is, you believe this.

                        No, the saddest part is that I was quoting The Declaration Of Independence, and one of you called me a traitor for it.

                        "And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @01:32PM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @01:32PM (#1135281)
                          The saddest part is using those words with MAGA and not seeing the contradiction.
                        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday April 10 2021, @11:56AM (6 children)

                          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday April 10 2021, @11:56AM (#1135655) Journal

                          ^ What the AC said. If you believe someone quoting any given text means they believe in it or act in ways in accordance with it, you're too dumb to live. This is one of the oldest tropes in the book. "Even the Devil can cite Scripture for his own purposes," ever hear that one?

                          --
                          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @04:42PM (5 children)

                            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @04:42PM (#1135717)

                            Don't you hate it when you come up with the perfect snappy reply on the way home from the party?

                            It's even worse when you think you have it, two days later. And then you call up the party guests, but they don't remember you being there.

                            Hogamous, Higamous...

                            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday April 11 2021, @02:44AM (4 children)

                              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday April 11 2021, @02:44AM (#1135887) Journal

                              I didn't even see that until just before posting the reply. Luckily SN notifies you when you get replies, so when someone replies to a topic of mine weeks later (yes this has happened) I can still see it.

                              --
                              I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @03:22AM (3 children)

                                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @03:22AM (#1135901)

                                Yes, how fortunate for you.

                                The party's over. "Ditto" was hardly worth the phone call.

                                Defensive much?

                                • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday April 11 2021, @03:33AM (2 children)

                                  by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday April 11 2021, @03:33AM (#1135909) Journal

                                  Er, no? I try and give people who reply to my posts the courtesy of a reply back, is all. Seems that was wasted on you, AC :/

                                  --
                                  I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @03:43AM (1 child)

                                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @03:43AM (#1135913)

                                    On the other hand, sometimes it really is better to think about it for two days before replying.

                                    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday April 11 2021, @03:52AM

                                      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday April 11 2021, @03:52AM (#1135914) Journal

                                      Indeed. You should try it. And maybe not limit yourself to two days...!

                                      --
                                      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @12:25AM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @12:25AM (#1135103)

                      I wonder who's waiting for me to drop the other shoe. Feel free to go ahead and hit 'em with the punchline.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:49PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:49PM (#1134957)
                  https://www.nathanrabin.com/happy-place/2020/3/17/trump-loving-cartoonist-ben-garrisons-avant-garde-masterpiece [nathanrabin.com] -- how cartoonists targeting Trumpsters depict the man.


                  https://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Screen-Shot-2019-11-27-at-14.33.06.png [thepoke.co.uk] --- what he actually looks like.

                  If you wanna play coy then you should keep in mind that what you imagine you look like does not reflect reality.
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:25PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:25PM (#1134980)

                He said that all must lend a hand
                To make this country strong again
                Mmm, mmm, mm!
                Barack Hussein Obama

                He said we must be fair today
                Equal work means equal pay
                Mmm, mmm, mm!
                Barack Hussein Obama

                He said that we must take a stand
                To make sure everyone gets a chance
                Mmm, mmm, mm!
                Barack Hussein Obama

                He said red, yellow, black or white
                All are equal in his sight
                Mmm, mmm, mm!
                Barack Hussein Obama

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:28PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:28PM (#1134983)

                Hello, Mr. President [Obama] we honor you today!
                For all your great accomplishments, we all doth say "hooray!"

                Hooray, Mr. President! You're number one!
                The first black American to lead this great nation!

                Hooray, Mr. President we honor your great plans
                To make this country's economy number one again!

                Hooray Mr. President, we're really proud of you!
                And we stand for all Americans under the great Red, White, and Blue!

                So continue ---- Mr. President we know you'll do the trick
                So here's a hearty hip-hooray ----

                Hip, hip hooray!
                Hip, hip hooray!
                Hip, hip hooray!

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:55PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:55PM (#1134999)

              He said that all must lend a hand
              To make this country strong again
              Mmm, mmm, mm!
              Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.

              He said we must be fair today
              Equal work means equal pay
              Mmm, mmm, mm!
              Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.

              He said that we must take a stand
              To make sure everyone gets a chance
              Mmm, mmm, mm!
              Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.

              He said red, yellow, black or white
              All are equal in his sight
              Mmm, mmm, mm!
              Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.

            • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @04:09AM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @04:09AM (#1135200)

              I keep saying Democrook vs Republocrook.

              They are all out to fuck YOU.

              Trump is just one among many others that do not care about YOU.

              I'd say the HATE for Trump from "liberals" is equally as bad as the adulation of him.
              Both sides have major issues with critical/logical thought.

              • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @11:59PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @11:59PM (#1135543)
                The 'hate' Trump has from liberals is earned. You assholes keep forgetting he was a public figure long before he took office.
              • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DannyB on Saturday April 10 2021, @05:50PM (1 child)

                by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 10 2021, @05:50PM (#1135743) Journal

                The thing is this. You can say whatever bad things about Obama, Hillary, Biden that you want. I don't care.

                But if anyone says even the slightest criticism of the Dear Leader Trump, heaven help them. You'll get modded into the infernal nether regions. Not that I care.

                --
                If a lazy person with no education can cross the border and take your job, we need to upgrade your job skills.
                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @08:46PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @08:46PM (#1135794)

                  Strike that, reverse it.

                  There hasn't been a positive thing in the press, news, TV, social media or dopey places like this, from the moment Trump rode that golden toilet elevator in Trump Tower, almost five years ago.

          • (Score: 2) by Socrastotle on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:50PM (1 child)

            by Socrastotle (13446) on Thursday April 08 2021, @07:50PM (#1134959) Journal

            Might I ask of you, your own question? Should the president be doing what want? Do we elect politicians to do what we want, or do we elect politicians because we think they're the best individuals to use their personal talents and skills to direct the country in a positive fashion? This is not a rhetorical question. I'm genuinely curious what you think. This, like many things in society today, reminds me of one of my ever more favorite passages in The Republic: [mit.edu]

            And democracy has her own good, of which the insatiable desire brings
            her to dissolution?

            What good?
            Freedom, I replied; which, as they tell you in a democracy, is the
            glory of the State --and that therefore in a democracy alone will
            the freeman of nature deign to dwell.

            Yes; the saying is in everybody's mouth.
            I was going to observe, that the insatiable desire of this and the
            neglect of other things introduces the change in democracy, which
            occasions a demand for tyranny.

            How so?
            When a democracy which is thirsting for freedom has evil cupbearers
            presiding over the feast, and has drunk too deeply of the strong wine
            of freedom, then, unless her rulers are very amenable and give a plentiful
            draught, she calls them to account and punishes them, and says that
            they are cursed oligarchs.

            Yes, he replied, a very common occurrence.
            Yes, I said; and loyal citizens are insultingly termed by her slaves
            who hug their chains and men of naught; she would have subjects who
            are like rulers, and rulers who are like subjects: these are men after
            her own heart, whom she praises and honours both in private and public.
            Now, in such a State, can liberty have any limit?

            Certainly not.
            By degrees the anarchy finds a way into private houses, and ends by
            getting among the animals and infecting them.

            How do you mean?
            I mean that the father grows accustomed to descend to the level of
            his sons and to fear them, and the son is on a level with his father,
            he having no respect or reverence for either of his parents; and this
            is his freedom, and metic is equal with the citizen and the citizen
            with the metic, and the stranger is quite as good as either.

            Yes, he said, that is the way.
            And these are not the only evils, I said --there are several lesser
            ones: In such a state of society the master fears and flatters his
            scholars, and the scholars despise their masters and tutors; young
            and old are all alike; and the young man is on a level with the old,
            and is ready to compete with him in word or deed; and old men condescend
            to the young and are full of pleasantry and gaiety; they are loth
            to be thought morose and authoritative, and therefore they adopt the
            manners of the young.

            Many of the changes in our society have felt so unprecedented. Yet here is a man writing words, 2400 years ago, that if written in contemporary language and reference would appear to be little more than a perfunctory recital of the changes in society over the past ~80 years. And these cannot be simply coincidences. The path described is so unnatural, so irrational, and so accurate that there indeed must be more to it.

            So I suppose there is only one thing to do. Let us raise our glass to our own demise. It would seem we made poor rulers after all. Let us now exchange our crowns for whips and collars.

            • (Score: 2) by Tork on Thursday April 08 2021, @10:37PM

              by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 08 2021, @10:37PM (#1135055)
              My remark was about blind support of a bad-acting President, not about how representative of government we have. It's a bit like a parent punishing their kid for getting suspended from school for swearing, then asking the parent if they really think swearing's all that bad. Kinda not the point.

              Having said that, though, my personal opinion... if it's still interesting to you... is that it should be somewhere in-between. The Pres is privvy to stuff we're not, so he or she needs some leeway, but that's also why transparency is important. I'm still very unhappy about Obama's drone strikes, and if he was actually justified in doing so I'd never know it. Classified. But I also think approval rating matters... or should anyway. If we actually did things like recall elections then Obama's move would have been a lot riskier, and we would more likely have gotten some transparency about it.

              I suppose a simpler version of what I'm saying is: We need to be more involved.
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      • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:31PM

        by captain normal (2205) on Thursday April 08 2021, @08:31PM (#1134984)

        Would't that tend to invalidate the study because such people already suffer from mental and neurological problems?

        --
        The Musk/Trump interview appears to have been hacked, but not a DDOS hack...more like A Distributed Denial of Reality.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:59PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:59PM (#1134893)

      One third of Americans claim to suffer from neurological or mental disorders from COVID but are actually looking for welfare handouts, one third of Americans are waddling lard-asses, and one third actually deserve to live.

      Symptoms of TDS.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by crafoo on Thursday April 08 2021, @06:16PM (4 children)

      by crafoo (6639) on Thursday April 08 2021, @06:16PM (#1134902)

      "one third of Americans are waddling lard-asses"

      sadly, more like 70% of American's are obese. Not overweight, not fat, OBESE. I say that indicates a per-existing neurological disorder.

      • (Score: 2) by helel on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:24PM (3 children)

        by helel (2949) on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:24PM (#1135015)

        Let's be fair. Only 42% of the population is considered obese. [cdc.gov] That's not even half!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @01:00AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @01:00AM (#1135118)

          Some work to do ahead, yeah. The objective is not out of grasp though.

          • (Score: 2) by helel on Friday April 09 2021, @01:06AM

            by helel (2949) on Friday April 09 2021, @01:06AM (#1135120)

            Aim for 2030. Everyone else is. :)

        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by krishnoid on Friday April 09 2021, @02:06AM

          by krishnoid (1156) on Friday April 09 2021, @02:06AM (#1135152)

          It's much more when you consider it as a weighted average :-P

    • (Score: 2) by Tokolosh on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:00PM (5 children)

      by Tokolosh (585) on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:00PM (#1135001)

      Americans are the most weak-minded people I have ever had the misfortune to meet. There is no padding soft enough to protect them from reality. Since 9/11 the population has been suffering a collective nervous breakdown. Their motto should change to "Out of an abundance of caution!"

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:08PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 08 2021, @09:08PM (#1135004)

        You mean just the white ones, of course? Otherwise your statement would be racist.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @04:21AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @04:21AM (#1135203)

        Thats what USA type people have become.

        In my father's era and before it was different. Those people worked very
        hard and built the infrastructure of this country. Now the lazy use and abuse
        what was passed down to them. Pretty sad how fast a good thing can end
        up in the toilet.

        ...

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday April 09 2021, @05:10AM (2 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday April 09 2021, @05:10AM (#1135215) Journal

          But you see, infrastructure spending is *Communism.* St. Reagan told us so, so it must be true. 40+ years of infrastructure rot sucks, yes, but let's not lose sight of when and why the country's focus shifted away from it.

          Know who had some good ideas about infrastructure? A guy named Franklin Roosevelt... :)

          --
          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @05:46AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 09 2021, @05:46AM (#1135221)

            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...

            The kind she said to avoid in the locker room.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @09:04PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @09:04PM (#1135806)

              Troll

              That's what she said!

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