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posted by Fnord666 on Monday May 03, @11:59AM   Printer-friendly [Skip to comment(s)]

How to stop Windows 10 Defender from uploading files to Microsoft:

Like other antivirus programs, Microsoft Defender will upload suspicious files to Microsoft to determine if they are malicious. However, some consider this a privacy risk and would rather have their files stay on their computer than being uploaded to a third party.

When Microsoft Defender scans your device, by default, it will use the "Automatic sample submission' feature to upload files to Microsoft's servers when a file is suspected to be malicious.

Microsoft's cloud-based protection will analyze the file, and if it is determined to be malicious, cause Microsoft Defender to quarantine the file on the device.

When submitting files, Microsoft Defender will automatically upload executables and scripts but warn the user first to upload a file that may contain personal information, such as a document.

"If Windows Defender Antivirus is turned on, it monitors the security status of your device. It automatically prepares reports to send to Microsoft about suspected malware and other unwanted software. Sometimes, the report includes files that may contain malware."

"Files that aren't likely to contain user data are sent automatically. However, you'll be prompted for permission if Windows Defender Antivirus wants to send a document, spreadsheet, or other type of file that is likely to contain your personal content," Microsoft explains in a Windows 10 privacy webpage.


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Ingar on Monday May 03, @12:23PM (6 children)

    by Ingar (801) on Monday May 03, @12:23PM (#1145642) Homepage

    Useless article. The setting is trivial to find and as noted in the article's comments,
    soon after turning the option off, Windows will start showing the yellow exclamation icon, or just turn the option on again.
    Not to mention the amount of UAC warnings you have to click through.

    Even turning Defender off doesn't really work. For testing purposes, I wanted to infect a virtual machine with a known exploit.
    With all antivirus options disabled, it just kept on complaining about the dangerous file.

    • (Score: 2) by BsAtHome on Monday May 03, @01:54PM

      by BsAtHome (889) on Monday May 03, @01:54PM (#1145662)

      That is why you do not use Windows to develop malware for Windows.

      Not that it will detect your final version, but the process is so painful in development. All those intermediate builds that get uploaded to the MS cloud before they can do the real damage. It is bad for business.
      :-P

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, @03:23PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, @03:23PM (#1145683)

      Delete the service with a tool like GMER, permanently.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, @03:37PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, @03:37PM (#1145691)

        >> permanently

        ... or at least until Clippy silently re-enables it for you as a helpful security measure.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by looorg on Monday May 03, @03:53PM

      by looorg (578) on Monday May 03, @03:53PM (#1145701)

      Wargames was a prophetic movie. The only winning move is not to play the game. So never install it. Don't do it! That said you might not have a lot of choice sometimes unless it's your own machine.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, @08:21PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, @08:21PM (#1145805)

      If you read the UI, it explicitly says that disabling defender with the little real-time protection on-off slider is temporary. The exact text is "You can turn off this setting for a short time before it turns back on automatically."

      If you want to disable it and have it stay disabled you can do that with group policy.
      To disable real-time protection:
      gpedit.msc >> Computer Settings >>Administrative Templates >> Windows components >> Microsoft Defender Antivirus >> Real-time Protection >> Turn off real-time protection

      In that mode the regularly scheduled filesystem scans still run. To disable it completely including those scans, use:
      gpedit.msc >> Computer Settings >>Administrative Templates >> Windows components >> Microsoft Defender Antivirus >> Turn off Microsoft Defender Antivirus

      Setting either of these will cause warnings to appear in security center. That is not a bug.

      If you have a group policy from active directory that overwrites these settings, the GPOs from AD will win. That is also not a bug.

    • (Score: 2) by corey on Tuesday May 04, @10:08PM

      by corey (2202) on Tuesday May 04, @10:08PM (#1146306)

      Agree. Or shorter answer: Download O&O’s ShutUp 10 and turn them all on.
      https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 [oo-software.com]

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 03, @01:17PM (3 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 03, @01:17PM (#1145652) Homepage Journal

    or, alternatively, you trust Microsoft.

    This isn't exactly the Good Old Days when semi-literate semi-tech people could tweak Windows following an online guide. Today, all that telemetry crap is baked into the operating system.

    You're running Win10, and you think you have secrets from Microsoft? Can I interest you in a lightly used bridge?

    --
    "I didn't lose to him!" - The Donald referring to Trippin' Joe
  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, @01:38PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, @01:38PM (#1145659)

    Just be a good little nizzer and put up with it. You should love the fact that MS is watching out for you.

    PS. Fun fact, that CP you inadvertently downloaded is not considered personal content.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, @02:24PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, @02:24PM (#1145667)

    I like that idea much better.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Freeman on Monday May 03, @04:35PM (6 children)

      by Freeman (732) on Monday May 03, @04:35PM (#1145716) Journal

      Stop buying Microsoft products. It's the only way.

      --
      "I said in my haste, All men are liars." Psalm 116:11
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, @06:15PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, @06:15PM (#1145754)

        Well, we could also march en masse to Redmond and burn the Microsoft buildings to the ground, hauling out the employees to the parking lot(s) to be ritually slain by having their still-beating hearts ripped out one by one, the screams of the dying driving the ones awaiting the same fate into spasms of madness, until the area is black with ashes and red with rivers of blood.

        I'm just saying it's an option.

        • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday May 04, @02:19PM (1 child)

          by Freeman (732) on Tuesday May 04, @02:19PM (#1146142) Journal

          You say that like it's an option, but it really isn't. You'd more likely drive people to Microsoft with something like that or at least garner them sympathy. Which is the opposite of what you're wanting, I assume. Also, that's seriously disturbed. Most people wouldn't want to do that kind of thing, because it's evil.

          --
          "I said in my haste, All men are liars." Psalm 116:11
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @09:02PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @09:02PM (#1146293)

            But you've defended the Jan. 6th insurrectionists who invaded the Capitol with murderous intent, according to the insurrectionists themselves. Or am I remembering incorrectly?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, @11:08PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, @11:08PM (#1145849)

        The OS came with the PC

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @07:38AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @07:38AM (#1146040)

          The OS came with the PC

          And you didn't exorcise it? St Ignutius save us all!

        • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday May 04, @02:41PM

          by Freeman (732) on Tuesday May 04, @02:41PM (#1146152) Journal

          It's true, but you could do one of various other things.

          #1 Buy an Apple product. (But, I hate Apple, you say?)
          #2 Buy a Chrome Book (Ok, don't that's evil.)
          #3 Buy a Samsung Tablet (Well, that's not much better than buying a Chromebook and suffers from the whole "It's a Tablet, not a computer.")
          #4 Buy a Linux Computer. Here's a couple places to purchase one from:
          https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/overview/cp/linuxsystems [dell.com]
          https://system76.com/ [system76.com]

          Also, all of these, if you're in the market for a laptop: https://itsfoss.com/get-linux-laptops/ [itsfoss.com]

          There's also the whole, buy just about any computer and install Linux on it. Since Linux is free.
          Here's a nice guide for that:
          https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-make-the-switch-from-windows-to-linux [pcmag.com]

          I personally recommend MXLinux or Ubuntu as starter distributions (distros). Ubuntu has a pretty large user base and is popular for a reason. MXLinux is a bit less bloated in my opinion and is the distro I've most recently used. I had a pleasant experience even on the older dual-core laptop that I was wanting to repurpose.

          --
          "I said in my haste, All men are liars." Psalm 116:11
  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, @07:50PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, @07:50PM (#1145789)

    If you use windows you don't deserve, nor will you have privacy or security. You are a pitiful groveling slave. Until you decide you aren't.

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