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posted by martyb on Tuesday May 04, @03:17AM   Printer-friendly [Skip to comment(s)]
from the Can't-Buy-Me-Love dept.

Bill Gates and Melinda Gates are splitting up after 27 years

Bill Gates, co-founder and former CEO of Microsoft, said in a tweet on Monday that he and his wife, Melinda Gates, will be splitting up after 27 years. The two will keep working together on philanthropic work, which has addressed education, gender equality and health care.

"After a great deal of thought and a lot of work on our relationship, we have made the decision to end our marriage," Bill and Melinda Gates wrote in a statement that Bill Gates tweeted out.

"Over the last 27 years, we have raised three incredible children and built a foundation that works all over the world to enable all people to lead healthy, productive lives. We continue to share a belief in that mission and will continue our work together at the foundation, but we no longer believe we can grow together as a couple in this next phase of our lives. We ask for space and privacy for our family as we begin to navigate this new life."

This is news, I swear.

Also at BBC, which published this photo retrospective for some reason.


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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by fustakrakich on Tuesday May 04, @03:21AM (4 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday May 04, @03:21AM (#1145946) Journal

    They pay less taxes this way

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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @03:38AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @03:38AM (#1145956)

      Come off it Fusty, do you really think they pay any taxes at all, what with contributions in the Billions?

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @03:40AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @03:40AM (#1145958)

      You can't tax true love!

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:18AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:18AM (#1145977)

        You can't tax true love!

        Inconceivable!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 08, @10:25PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 08, @10:25PM (#1147627)

        Oh, the government will find a way ...

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by leon_the_cat on Tuesday May 04, @03:35AM (20 children)

    by leon_the_cat (10052) on Tuesday May 04, @03:35AM (#1145953) Journal

    That it just creepy. Do we all have to rise for the Bill & Melinda anthem now?

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by canopic jug on Tuesday May 04, @04:37AM (12 children)

      by canopic jug (3949) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @04:37AM (#1145986) Journal

      The BBC is overfull with "former" M$ executives. It has been like a marketing branch of M$ for ages now. Gushing over Bill and convering for his mistakes is their style now.

      As for Bill getting be boot, 1) the alimony will be huge, 2) she's probably angry about those time he did not fly in his own airplane, and 3) he's probably getting things cleared up with ambitions for office. Point 3 will help him weasel out of the fallout from point 2.

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      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:40AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:40AM (#1145987)

        If they sold some stock it would look like insider trading but a divorce means that a judge will order the stocks sold.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @07:07AM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @07:07AM (#1146031)

        Out there in normie world, they have stylized up BillG as this supersmart nerd that made billions from using his smarts to allow the plebs to use their computers. He also nominally spends a lot on social programs, so everybody should follow his opinions on life, the virus, and everything.

        Us in the computer field know about his family connections, the shitty quality of his firm's software, and the lasting negative effects and retardation of progress he was responsible for. But we're just stupid nerds.

        • (Score: 4, Touché) by VLM on Tuesday May 04, @11:59AM (1 child)

          by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @11:59AM (#1146092)

          The next step is realizing EVERYTHING in journalism is like that.

          Same problem if they're talking about legacy desktop operating systems, cars, vaccines, plumbing, sex ed, cooking, nuclear energy, politics, art ...

          • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:06PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:06PM (#1146200)

            Except for Fox News *obviously* - they tell you what the lamestream won't! Microchips in the vaccines!11!

        • (Score: 2, Touché) by VLM on Tuesday May 04, @12:22PM (2 children)

          by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @12:22PM (#1146100)

          everybody should follow his opinions on life, the virus, and everything

          Also consider that everyone knows there's a zillion pictures of him and his best friend Epstein but nobody in the media ever talks about that. Maybe the Epstein connection is specifically why the media worships him and his opinions?

          • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 06, @03:36AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 06, @03:36AM (#1146698)

            I mean they had a house isolated on an island for a reason, all that work in Africa is perfect for some sex tourism (it's even cheaper and easier than in the West.... and if you knew how cheap it was for people in their circles, you'd shudder.) While it's easier for people like Epstein to get guys to blackmail, there are plenty of perv women, single mothers, and mothers out there. And the apathy they show is just as real and damaging as the men. Look to the UK sex abuse reports coming out about women on boy abuse from a few years back.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 06, @06:59AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 06, @06:59AM (#1146732)

              Normal men are drawn to attractive women like moths to a flame. Exploiting this is easy.

              There are plenty of perverse women but there tends to be something wrong with them, and they are outliers. Exploiting this is hard.

              I think this situation is most easily explained by recent events. Melinda has done the charity stuff pretty much since day 0 of running into money. Bill Gates has done the charity stuff pretty much since day 0 of running into Melinda. Bill Gates coming out vehemently in favor of the ongoing commercialization and privatization of vaccine intellectual property was hard to explain in any positive way. It, at best, seems to be a decision completely devoid of any sort of moral or ethical compass. And that would match what we've seen from Bill Gates most of his entire life. Bill Gates gets tired of trying to be somebody he's not. Melinda gets tired of trying to turn him into somebody he is not. You don't split after 34 years over reconcilable issues, and after 34 years damn near anything is reconcilable.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by PiMuNu on Tuesday May 04, @08:15AM (4 children)

        by PiMuNu (3823) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @08:15AM (#1146048)

        > The BBC is overfull with "former" M$ executives

        Who?

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @06:22AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @06:22AM (#1146020)

      they have enough money to buy a small country.
      their divorce therefore has economic consequences comparable to the splitting of a small country: probably minimal, but possibly affecting millions.
      objectively it's news, whether or not you like it.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Nuke on Tuesday May 04, @09:40AM (2 children)

        by Nuke (3162) on Tuesday May 04, @09:40AM (#1146062)

        Why are you getting at the OP? You still have not answered his question :

        Do we all have to rise for the Bill & Melinda anthem now?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @09:46AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @09:46AM (#1146065)

          no. and, by the way, nobody has to rise for any anthem.

          but the BBC is not telling you that you should do anything about this. their job is to report significant events, and I was arguing that this is an objectively significant event.

          by all means, feel free to ignore them, or to complain about the usage of british taxpayer's money, I'm not stopping you.

          I personally would like to point out that it's an idiotic economic system that allows the bickering of an old couple to be objectively important for everyone else, but there's not much I can do about it.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:10PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:10PM (#1146202)

            > no. and, by the way, nobody has to rise for any anthem.

            Oh? Try that shit in the Land of the Free and you'll be torn a new asshole. A FreedomHole.

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @05:39PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @05:39PM (#1146245)

        they have enough money to buy a small country.

        They 'bought' the City of Yakima, WA, and turned it into a police state. Only three kinds of humans live in Yakima: cops, suspects, and inmates. It's almost a pseudo penal colony. Stay far, far away.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @06:26AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @06:26AM (#1146024)

      What? What does a big black cock have do with this story?

      Ooooh....that's the reason is it?

    • (Score: 2) by corey on Tuesday May 04, @10:05PM

      by corey (2202) on Tuesday May 04, @10:05PM (#1146305)

      I don’t know why this is such news. I don’t personally care about the couple, even if they are such VVIPs. Or if their shit didn’t stink. It’s just another divorce. Are we all personally invested in the foundation? No then move on.

      I guess most of the 110 comments here are about marriage in general.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by deimios on Tuesday May 04, @04:02AM (53 children)

    by deimios (201) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @04:02AM (#1145971) Journal

    So after MacKenzie Bezos I guess we'll have the second most wealthy woman in Melinda Gates.

    On a completely unrelated note, whatever happened to "until death do us part"?

    • (Score: 2) by Subsentient on Tuesday May 04, @04:14AM (20 children)

      by Subsentient (1111) on Tuesday May 04, @04:14AM (#1145974) Homepage Journal

      I've often wondered about that. Were people just quietly loathing their spouses for centuries since divorce was socially verboten?
      I would suspect that to be the case. You can only tolerate so much of another human before you crave the sweet release of death. It's a wonder that more husbands weren't murdered by their wives.

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      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:24AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:24AM (#1145979)

        Until death do us part was easier when people didn't live as long. And when one of the couple had no hope of supporting themself without their husband.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:11PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:11PM (#1146203)

          There was always the career choice of being a witch, or an old hag.

      • (Score: 2) by Beryllium Sphere (r) on Tuesday May 04, @05:08AM

        by Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) on Tuesday May 04, @05:08AM (#1145997)

        People of a certain age report being told in their youth by their elders "Never get married".

        On the other hand, my parents's marriage lasted a lifetime and seemed to satisfy them both.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @07:40AM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @07:40AM (#1146042)

        It is a wonder most wives were not killed by their husbands. Most of them didnt like house work did a bad job til they were younf in a joint family.

        Fortunately most men worked the fields and only returned home to have sex and remained impervious to family politics. Women were also raised docile.

        The whole marriage system is a relic of agrigarian society that existed until 1800s. People get married today because of kids and because it reduces competetion between women.

        • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Nuke on Tuesday May 04, @09:45AM (5 children)

          by Nuke (3162) on Tuesday May 04, @09:45AM (#1146064)

          The whole marriage system is a relic of agrigarian society that existed until 1800s.

          Marriage was a bit of an exception before the 19th century except among the (minority) middle and upper classes. The middle classes did it to combine finances and the upper classes did it to combine power. The poor had no particular reason to marry.

          • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Tuesday May 04, @12:25PM (2 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @12:25PM (#1146101) Journal

            Marriage was a bit of an exception before the 19th century except among the (minority) middle and upper classes. The middle classes did it to combine finances and the upper classes did it to combine power. The poor had no particular reason to marry.

            Except for the same reasons the poor worldwide marries now - to raise families and cope with poverty. And given the European social mores of the time - like out of wedlock sex and births being scorned by society, marriage had to be widespread among the poor.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:15PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:15PM (#1146208)

              > The poor had no particular reason to marry.

              Plus somebody has to follow the morality rules laid down by the uppers and middles to make them look important. That's what poor people are for. Or am I getting confused with management and workers.

              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday May 04, @04:58PM

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @04:58PM (#1146230) Journal

                Plus somebody has to follow the morality rules laid down by the uppers and middles to make them look important.

                These rules on things like out of wedlock sex and births seem to be enforced at all levels of society. That tells me it's not a top down rule set, but a cultural norm.

          • (Score: 4, Informative) by Socrastotle on Tuesday May 04, @03:00PM

            by Socrastotle (13446) on Tuesday May 04, @03:00PM (#1146158) Journal

            Marriage formalizes a relationship, creates a more formal promise that the father will support the children and that the woman will remain faithful, and also work as a public announcement of commitment to everybody else - in other words 'taken, move on'. The exchanging of rings dates back at least 3000 years and was almost certainly practiced (even if with something different but equally visible) long before as well.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @03:36PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @03:36PM (#1146181)

            No! Where did you get that? Rich or poor people lived in joint families, even when they were dacoits living in forests praying on intercity merchants. It was never about love and always about consolidation of power but never an exception.

            Love marriage is literally a feminist concept that views traditional marriage as a patriarchy. Which it is, because patriarchy is a way to keep power In family and powerful men get plenty of wives while powerful women don't get many men to build a family. So marriage as an institution to transfer power to your relatives / children without causing a social breakdown is anti-(power hungry)women.

            This is why feminist jurisprudence has ensured that power transfer happens between father and children even after divorce and mother induced parental alienation. Gives women freedom to divorce.

            Marriage remains popular because of conservative men and men who believe it is about love. A purely logical perspective will make you hate it if you a man.

      • (Score: 2) by crafoo on Tuesday May 04, @11:19AM (8 children)

        by crafoo (6639) on Tuesday May 04, @11:19AM (#1146084)

        Nah. It's the female "silver divorce" retirement plan. Usually (by the stats) the women gets custody of the kids, if they are still 18 (obviously). She gets half the cash. She is "free" of a marriage. There is no downside. It's a simple business decision. In this case, it probably works out alright for BIll too, not that I give a shit about either of them.

        Incidentally, look at the top 20 women by wealth and where they got their cash. It's clearly part of the female mating strategy.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @11:36AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @11:36AM (#1146086)

          There is no downside

          you have to have sex with an ass for a decade?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @12:02PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @12:02PM (#1146093)

            Who says they were having sex during that entire time?

        • (Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday May 04, @12:03PM (4 children)

          by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @12:03PM (#1146095)

          It's clearly part of the female mating strategy.

          The natural male reaction is marrying the hottest young thing out there, so he gets some fun and some great genetics for his kids. Bill ended up with Melinda, what's wrong with that guy's vision?

      • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Tuesday May 11, @05:54AM

        by Sulla (5173) on Tuesday May 11, @05:54AM (#1148621) Journal

        The ease of buying consumer products changed us too much. My grandfather would do everything in his power to repair what was broken rather than buy a new one, my father was more likely to throw it away and buy a new one to save time. The younger generations were raised in a society where fixing something is not valued as highly as throwing it out, even if you are disposing of an easily fixed superior object for a lesser one. Why work through issues in your relationship when you can just start a new one and avoid the difficulty? Much more efficient right?

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    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:31AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:31AM (#1145983)

      It looks like most of their wealth will continue to go to charity. So not very wealthy.

    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday May 04, @04:35AM (3 children)

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday May 04, @04:35AM (#1145984) Journal

      whatever happened to "until death do us part"?

      A fungible token of affection, which can include murder as he mentioned above. But this relationship was strictly business, totally transactional. Maybe they had to separate to acquire or keep some property to avoid a conflict of interest.

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      • (Score: 5, Funny) by driverless on Tuesday May 04, @09:48AM (2 children)

        by driverless (4770) on Tuesday May 04, @09:48AM (#1146066)

        Your marriage has encountered a problem and needs to restart. We're just collecting some error info, and then we'll restart for you.

        Your marriage has encountered a problem and needs to restart. We're just collecting some error info, and then we'll restart for you.

        Your marriage has encountered a problem and needs to restart. We're just collecting some error info, and then we'll restart for you.

        Your marriage has encountered a problem and needs to restart. We're just collecting some error info, and then we'll restart for you.

        Your marriage has encountered a ...

        • (Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @01:50PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @01:50PM (#1146133)

          Your product has run out of support. You will automatically be upgraded to Marriage$ 2.0. If you do not want to be upgraded, please keep pressing No. After reboot, the upgrade will proceed automatically.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:19PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:19PM (#1146211)

          Hi - it looks like you're trying to write a prenup. Bit late for that, eh? Can't help you with that.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by hemocyanin on Tuesday May 04, @04:54AM (15 children)

      by hemocyanin (186) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @04:54AM (#1145993) Journal

      I'm a proponent of the marriage lease. It would work like this:

      • Prior to commitment, a pre-nup regarding property and living arrangements at expiration and a parenting plan (should there be current or future children) is agreed on.
      • The term of the commitment is agreed on.
      • Breach conditions which cause early termination of the commitment are clearly outlined.
      • At expiration of the term, the pre-nup and parenting plan immediately take effect unless the parties negotiate a new commitment or convert the lease to a traditional marriage.
      • (Score: 1, Troll) by Barenflimski on Tuesday May 04, @05:48AM (6 children)

        by Barenflimski (6836) on Tuesday May 04, @05:48AM (#1146005)

        Just cuz that's a smart thing to do doesn't mean it should be law. Sometimes we gotta let people be dumb.

        • (Score: 1) by hemocyanin on Tuesday May 04, @05:56AM (5 children)

          by hemocyanin (186) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @05:56AM (#1146007) Journal

          I didn't say it should be a law as in "you must ..."

          I was suggesting it as an optional form of obtaining the legal benefits of marriage, but to also take into consideration life's realities.

          • (Score: 0, Redundant) by Anti-aristarchus on Tuesday May 04, @06:05AM (4 children)

            by Anti-aristarchus (14390) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @06:05AM (#1146009) Journal

            Apparent now, why the hemocyanin is so touchy about the downmods. He is not married. Any married person would take such criticisms as an opportunity to improve oneself, in the context of a relationship. Outside of any relationship, like a khallow libertarian purely transactional relation with a whore, or a john, such umbrage at downmodding would make sense, because it would affect future business. "No happy ending, would not recommend. One star. " Such is hemo. Perhaps if he put a bit more effort into it, some "suck" with the "suckiness" of the right-wing AC posts? But, not going to happen, is it?

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            • (Score: 1) by hemocyanin on Tuesday May 04, @06:39AM (2 children)

              by hemocyanin (186) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @06:39AM (#1146027) Journal

              Any married person would take such criticisms as an opportunity to improve oneself,

              If a person wants to renew their marriage lease, will they be more or less complacent about their relationship than one who thinks "til death do us part"?

              If a person is complacent about their marriage lease, and it's all going to fall apart anyway, why not skip the attorney fees and all the drama?

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @11:41AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @11:41AM (#1146087)
                So why bother getting married?
            • (Score: 2, Funny) by khallow on Tuesday May 04, @12:35PM

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @12:35PM (#1146106) Journal

              Outside of any relationship, like a khallow libertarian purely transactional relation with a whore, or a john, such umbrage at downmodding would make sense, because it would affect future business.

              Hi. It looks like you might have some weird ideas about the permanence and intimacy of the modding relationship. Would you like to:

              • Fuck it all up like usual?
              • Exchange exciting computer viruses with all the people modding you troll?
              • Enlist in the Microsoft Intimacy (TM) subscription service. We've already charged your credit card for this option, so we'll just do this.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @08:34AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @08:34AM (#1146053)

        another freeman here, all relationships ome down to agreed contracts.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:22PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:22PM (#1146213)

          and then you die. bah.

      • (Score: 2) by driverless on Tuesday May 04, @09:51AM (3 children)

        by driverless (4770) on Tuesday May 04, @09:51AM (#1146069)

        Islamic law provides for something like that, setting out the specific conditions for the marriage, right to divorce (khul'), and various non-financial conditions that are generally ignored by pre-nups.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @03:23PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @03:23PM (#1146171)

          This is one of the few areas where Islam is ahead, but here in the West we're not allowed to behead wives.

          • (Score: 3, Informative) by driverless on Wednesday May 05, @12:49AM (1 child)

            by driverless (4770) on Wednesday May 05, @12:49AM (#1146336)

            Nor are you in non-religious-nutcase versions of Islamic law.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 11, @05:57AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 11, @05:57AM (#1148628)

              And where exactly would we find those?

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday May 04, @01:25PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @01:25PM (#1146124) Journal

        Do you expect a man to keep it in his pants long enough to read a EULA such as you are proposing?

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 05, @01:27AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 05, @01:27AM (#1146346)

        The woman should be forever tied to the father of the first kid she pops. There, that settles all disputes, but boy! it sure would fuck up the royal family!

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @06:17AM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @06:17AM (#1146016)

      they're rich enough for the alternatives to be very good.
      also, they're rich enough to surround themselves with constant approval, so they have strong reality distortion fields.

      personally, I think divorce is only an option once one of the spouses becomes irrational. but even then, you promised to take care of them during sickness, so you owe it to yourself to get them the help they need.
      "I could be happier outside of this relationship" is a strange snowflake approach in my view. the point of marriage is that you're going to change yourself so that the pairing succeeds.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by FatPhil on Tuesday May 04, @08:48AM (7 children)

        by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Tuesday May 04, @08:48AM (#1146056) Homepage
        Deep down, marriage is literally just a societal construct, most of us are surrounded by a "western"/"Christian" version of it, but many alternatives exist. Their merits or otherwise are irrelevant, I'm not here to judge any of them.

        With that in mind, that there's more than one idea of "marriage", I must note that "the point of marriage is that you're going to change yourself so that the pairing succeeds" is not a supportable claim, as worded. Had you worded it as "a strategy that often works for preserving a marriage is to change yourself so that the pairing succeeds", then you'd have got my agreement. And despite its apparent autological form, it's no more a gimme than "a strategy that often works for skiiing is to keep everything apart from the skiis and poles away from the snow". Really useful, thanks, I'll just do that in the future then.

        But I do agree, there does seem to be too much of an attitude of not being willing to make things succeed, and giving up too easily. Nobody said life was going to be easy, grow a spine. And admit that you're in part at fault here - you're the idiot who married that idiot - fix your own mess, don't expect anyone else to.
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        • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @11:46AM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @11:46AM (#1146089)

          Fuck that. People don’t change, and changing yourself so the marriage succeeds is enslavement.

          If you’re too chicken to end a bad relationship, whether it’s personal or job-related,you’ll just be unhappy. Eventually there’s a point where you either walk or somebody gets killed.

          • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:32PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:32PM (#1146217)

            People don't change? I invite you to have a chat with yourself from 20 years ago.

          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday May 04, @05:04PM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @05:04PM (#1146233) Homepage Journal

            Fuck that. People don’t change,

            "Fuck that. Few people change,"

            I can't quite say "fixed that for you", but I've made it more accurate.

            Everyone ages, so everyone changes. Those changes are sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. But as for "changing", as in, "becoming a different person" very seldom happens. Thieves tend to remain thieves, liars remain liars, cheats remain cheats, good honest people remain good honest people, etc. Except, of course, for the exceptions to the rule who just prove the rule.

            --
            "I didn't lose to him!" - The Donald referring to Trippin' Joe
        • (Score: 2) by Socrastotle on Thursday May 06, @07:32AM (1 child)

          by Socrastotle (13446) on Thursday May 06, @07:32AM (#1146734) Journal

          I think the failure of people working to improve things is an effect rather than a cause. As society has become dominated by commercialization we've been inundated with decades of stuff that comes down to buy this product and you'll be happy, visit this location and you'll be happy, engage in this activity and you'll be happy, even to the point of take this pill and you'll be happy. Prozac in the 70s was literally marketed as the "happy pill".

          And this mindset has gradually pervaded into every single aspect of life. Happiness and contentedness is always just one more change away. People pursue that change, find themselves less happy than before. And so what is the solution? Just one more change, of course. All the while depression and various other mental disorders have skyrocketed to levels never before seen in society.

          • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Tuesday May 11, @06:00AM

            by Sulla (5173) on Tuesday May 11, @06:00AM (#1148632) Journal

            Agree but out of mod points. I came to the same realization a number of years ago after the birth of my twins. Since then I have completely stopped buying anything where I have an old version of it that can be fixed. Kids break a toy, they get to work with me to fix it. I'm hoping that this teaches the necessity of working through issues instead of just throwing your problems away and buying new ones.

            --
            Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
    • (Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Tuesday May 04, @01:22PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @01:22PM (#1146123) Journal

      whatever happened to "until death do us part"?

      It was upgraded to Vows 2.0.

      The upgrade went about as you would expect from a Microsoft upgrade.

      --
      The opposite of Pro is Con. The opposite of Progress is ___gress.
    • (Score: 3, Touché) by jelizondo on Tuesday May 04, @01:49PM

      by jelizondo (653) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 04, @01:49PM (#1146131) Journal

      On a completely unrelated note, whatever happened to "until death do us part"?

      Don't worry, he is dead to her!

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:16AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:16AM (#1145976)

    hmm...

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:47AM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:47AM (#1145991)

      Oh god! Against Trump?

      We are like... so doomed

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @06:11AM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @06:11AM (#1146013)

        Oh god! Against Trump?

        We are like... so doomed

        You just hate women Bernie bro. It's her turn. [xkcd.com]

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @06:26AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @06:26AM (#1146023)

          ??

          Are the rightwing nutters really truly losing it?

          • (Score: 3, Touché) by FatPhil on Tuesday May 04, @08:56AM

            by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Tuesday May 04, @08:56AM (#1146057) Homepage
            I think you'll find that the XKCD dude is a leftwing nutter. But yes, at some point he did start to lose it, for various replacements of the metavariable "it". It was probably not long after he put a downpayment on a Prius, and in order to try to be carbon-neutral he started huffing his own farts.

            I wonder whether when he grows up, he'll look back and realise how embarassing that whole charade was.
            --
            I know I'm God, because every time I pray to him, I find I'm talking to myself.
          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday May 04, @09:56PM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday May 04, @09:56PM (#1146300) Journal

            They haven't had "it" to lose since the Civil Rights era...all we're seeing now with the GOP is them no longer feeling they have to say the quiet part quiet (or not at all). This is the purest, truest distillation of what it means to be a Republican now.

            --
            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @09:03AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @09:03AM (#1146059)

          Randall is an insufferable, smug douche.
          He got famous for drawing stick figure comics (no talent, lowest effort) that succeeded only because they catered to nerds who are ignored by everyone else. Thus they lap up even Randall's tripe.

        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @05:33PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @05:33PM (#1146243)

          Sounds to me like some nerds really liked him until his politics went against theirs. Typical rightwing hate, the feeling of betrayal makes them so much angrier.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @05:30AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @05:30AM (#1146001)

    Melinda Gates did not kill herself.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @06:07AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @06:07AM (#1146011)

      Melania Gates would. Or Melinda Trump. Women like the wife of Genghis Khan, who know how to take out the bastard who claims to own them!

  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @05:56AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @05:56AM (#1146006)

    Bob, Bing or Clippy?

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @06:11AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @06:11AM (#1146014)

      It was Microsoft Bob. That is what Melinda was responsible for. And the story around the Microsoft Campus was that when you screw up that bad, the penalty is that you have to marry Bill. Cruel and unusual, but corporations are not held to moral standards. Now, at least, we know the term of the sentence: if you screw up as bad as Microsoft Bob, you have to be married to Bill Gates for 27 years, and bear three of his (or someone else's) kids. More than most coders are willing to risk.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @07:12AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @07:12AM (#1146036)

      Ubuntu.

    • (Score: 2) by Nuke on Tuesday May 04, @09:48AM (2 children)

      by Nuke (3162) on Tuesday May 04, @09:48AM (#1146067)

      Who TF is Bing? Was that Bing Crosby?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @11:51AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @11:51AM (#1146090)

        www.bing.com

        aka Microsoft Bing, their own search engine or alternative to Google search that just never really took off unless they forced people to go their with their own browser having it as the default homepage.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:38PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @04:38PM (#1146221)

        And who the F--- invented "squirt" as a method of sharing?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @03:16PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @03:16PM (#1146164)

      Somebody got caught Binging Clippy or Bob?

    • (Score: 2) by Nuke on Wednesday May 05, @08:35AM

      by Nuke (3162) on Wednesday May 05, @08:35AM (#1146413)

      An RMS sex doll

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @06:57AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @06:57AM (#1146029)

    Melinda was no longer satisfied with Bill's 3.5 inch floppy.

    Read the Zerohedge comments for more zingers: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bill-and-melinda-gates-getting-divorce [zerohedge.com]

    Fuck Gate$. They are richly deserved.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @02:37PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 04, @02:37PM (#1146150)

      would not want to know what the new usb distro is then.

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