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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday June 05, @06:03PM   Printer-friendly [Skip to comment(s)]

China maintains 'artificial sun' at 120 million Celsius for over 100 seconds, setting new world record:

China broke the record by keeping the Experimental Advanced Superconducting Tokamak (EAST) by achieving plasma temperature at 120 million Celsius for 101 seconds and 160 million Celsius for 20 seconds, a major step toward the test run of the fusion reactor.

The Tokamak devise[sic] is located at the Hefei Institutes of Physical Science of the Chinese Academy of Sciences. It is designed to replicate the nuclear fusion process that occurs naturally in the sun and stars to provide almost infinite clean energy through controlled nuclear fusion, which is often dubbed the "artificial sun."

The achievement broke a previous record of maintaining the plasma temperature at 100 million C for 100 seconds. According to Li Miao, director of the physics department of the Southern University of Science and Technology in Shenzhen, it is a milestone in reaching the goal of keeping the temperature at a stable level for a long time.

"The breakthrough is significant progress, and the ultimate goal should be keeping the temperature at a stable level for a long time," Li told the Global Times, adding that the next milestone might be to maintain the stability for a week or more.


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @06:13PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @06:13PM (#1142098)

    Because when it escapes from the lab, we can track it by simply following the trail of sunburns.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by looorg on Saturday June 05, @06:27PM

      by looorg (578) on Saturday June 05, @06:27PM (#1142105)

      Pff everybody knows they are creating the artificial sun so that they can burn all the evidence for the other accidental lab experiments ...

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Saturday June 05, @06:18PM (3 children)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Saturday June 05, @06:18PM (#1142100)

    What a boring name. High profile Chinese technical projects are usually called Golden Palace, Divine Vessel or Long March or Heavenly Questions. EAST is... well, some acronym. They might as well have called it a number 31...

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by fustakrakich on Saturday June 05, @06:45PM

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday June 05, @06:45PM (#1142116) Journal

      Yeah, 42 and 69 are taken

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @06:35PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @06:35PM (#1142434)

      Maybe 'cause the Sun rises in the...?

    • (Score: 2) by Rich on Sunday June 06, @08:49PM

      by Rich (945) on Sunday June 06, @08:49PM (#1142469) Journal

      Bickering about names is referred to as "bike shedding" among professionals actually doing work. In your case, we'd end up with the "Divine Vessel Golden Palace" for the bikes. A bit pretentious, but it answers what colour to paint the shed in right away!

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Saturday June 05, @06:19PM (1 child)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 05, @06:19PM (#1142101) Homepage Journal

    Now, all we need do is train homeowners, businessowners, and industry to use all the energy they want in 100 seconds, before it shuts down. I see a real future in batteries.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by edIII on Saturday June 05, @09:30PM

      by edIII (791) on Saturday June 05, @09:30PM (#1142155)

      Actually, that might be reasonable. Imagine if we had a whole bunch of very efficient batteries. Advanced flywheels, Aluminum/Gallium recovery, etc. Even though we only get 100 seconds, we're able to charge up enough batteries for weeks of usage for an entire state.

      I've often wondered if generating huge amounts of energy at a single point, charging up hundreds of thousands of batteries, and then distributing the batteries might not be a bad idea.

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  • (Score: 2) by requerdanos on Saturday June 05, @06:29PM (10 children)

    by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 05, @06:29PM (#1142107) Journal

    100 million Celsius seems a little warm to be keeping around as a stable target. Why not something a little cooler and therefore presumably more thermally manageable? TFA points out that these temps are fifteen times the temperature at the core of the sun.

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by fustakrakich on Saturday June 05, @06:48PM (3 children)

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday June 05, @06:48PM (#1142117) Journal

      I wanna see the thermometer they stuck in there

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @10:41PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @10:41PM (#1142174)

        >... thermometer they stuck in there

        Please stop being an idiot. Obviously they used some non-contact method of measuring the temperature, one option might be IR from a good distance back.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @06:37AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @06:37AM (#1142289)

          The Christian side hug of temperature measurements.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @03:43AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @03:43AM (#1142236)

        I just guessed at the temperature, to be honest.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @06:54PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @06:54PM (#1142118)

      Impact energy, needed achieve fusion, and impact probability per time, needed to get a lot of fusion, both increase with pressure and temperature.

      The sun has pressures that we cannot achieve on earth. So we crank up the heat instead.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by turgid on Saturday June 05, @06:57PM (1 child)

      by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 05, @06:57PM (#1142119) Journal

      The plasma is held in a magnetic field. It never touches anything.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @12:48AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @12:48AM (#1142203)

        As long as the magnetic field holds.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Socrastotle on Saturday June 05, @06:58PM

      by Socrastotle (13446) on Saturday June 05, @06:58PM (#1142121) Journal

      I am nowhere near well informed enough on this topic to give an ELI5, but I can give you the term to start your deep dive of learning for the answer to this question: Lawson Criteria.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by Beryllium Sphere (r) on Sunday June 06, @01:43AM (1 child)

      by Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) on Sunday June 06, @01:43AM (#1142218)

      The sun doesn't fuse very fast. Any given cubic centimeter of it generates roughly as much heat as a cubic centimeter of a rabbit. The sun has a lot of cubic centimeters, our fusion reactors far fewer.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @04:03PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @04:03PM (#1142386)

        I don't know about the rabbits on your part of the planet, but over here they aren't at 15 million degrees like the center of the Sun.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @06:33PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @06:33PM (#1142108)

    "China devotes around 9 percent of its research and development. "

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @08:01PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @08:01PM (#1142136)

      ...on Winnie the Pooh?

      ...on upstaging the USA?

      ...and squanders the other 91%?

      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Saturday June 05, @09:43PM

        by Gaaark (41) on Saturday June 05, @09:43PM (#1142158) Journal

        On eating Chinese women, though you get horny again after 30 minutes.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @05:48AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @05:48AM (#1142271)

        Apologies - it's only in TFA.

        This is Iter, not China. Iter is a group including the EU, USA and a bunch of others. China contributes 9%. And let's keep it real - not the good 9%.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Revek on Saturday June 05, @07:34PM (23 children)

    by Revek (5022) on Saturday June 05, @07:34PM (#1142126)

    I don't believe anything china says. They have been caught in too many lies for me to accept anything they say at face value. They suppress the truth and that is the same as lying.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @07:39PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @07:39PM (#1142129)

      cHiNaMaN bAd!@!

      • (Score: 2) by Revek on Saturday June 05, @10:34PM (3 children)

        by Revek (5022) on Saturday June 05, @10:34PM (#1142172)

        No CCP bad. Chinaman is slave.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @05:52AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @05:52AM (#1142272)

          usaMan free!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 07, @02:08AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 07, @02:08AM (#1142581)

          And yet, Chinaman overwhelmingly supports his government with the patriotic furor that you warmongers dream about, why is that? Do you really believe that propaganda will turn a billion people into mindless idiots without exception?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 07, @05:03PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 07, @05:03PM (#1142806)

            No, there are plenty of Chinese dissenters. Hundreds of millions it is estimated.
            You know very little about Chinese culture if you think otherwise.
            CCP is teetering on the brink of collapse. There are powerful people in China who would
            live to see that happen. But yes: CCP is bad.

            Propaganda is very powerful. Look what it's done to the USA.
            Ever since the Smith–Mundt Act was abandoned, the US media has had a field day brainwashing people.
            Good luck to you!

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by srobert on Saturday June 05, @09:29PM (7 children)

      by srobert (4803) on Saturday June 05, @09:29PM (#1142154)

      The U.S. government is always completely honest in it's dealings with other countries, with it's own citizens, etc. You can always trust the U.S.A.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @10:24PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @10:24PM (#1142169)

        All those black men from Tuskegee.
        The WW2 concientious objectors who got used for bioweapons testing.
        The Native American tribes who still have treaties on the books that are being ignored.
        Puerto Ricans.
        Native Alaskans.
        The Japanese during the Opening of Japan (The catalyst for WW1/WW2 japanese involvement! As well as the fall of the Shogunate and return of the Emperor.)

        I'm sure someone with more knowledge of American history can pick out lots more.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @11:16PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @11:16PM (#1142179)

        whataboutwhataboutwhatabout

        China is literally run by a dictator for life, and those are not summer camps in Xinjiang.

        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday June 07, @07:38PM

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday June 07, @07:38PM (#1142868) Journal

          They both lie; China just has the power to do it a lot better.

          The key is to figure out when it would benefit them to tell the truth.

          In this case they would be fully aware that announcing a breakthrough like this is going to come with a lot of scrutiny.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday June 05, @11:41PM (3 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 05, @11:41PM (#1142185) Journal
        Indeed, if the US does it, it must be ok!
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @05:54AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @05:54AM (#1142273)

          Hard to tell if you are joking. Former presidents have said EXACTLY that. And probably more than 50% of the country believes it. Wanna talk about brainwashed leftist marxist traitors such as Joe Biden?

          Your move.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday June 06, @12:26PM (1 child)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 06, @12:26PM (#1142342) Journal

            Former presidents have said EXACTLY that.

            And that's your basis for morality, right? What some former president says?

            Whataboutism has the problem that once one party does something (and for some bizarre reason, the US gets used as the gold standard for what should be allowed), it makes it ok for all parties to do so.

            Should it then be ok for the US to do what China and Russia does? Like invade neighbors, ethnic cleansing on a massive scale, create police states, etc.

            Your move.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 07, @02:16AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 07, @02:16AM (#1142587)

              Should it then be ok for the US to do what China and Russia does? Like invade neighbors, ethnic cleansing on a massive scale, create police states, etc.

              We literally do all of those things except invade "neighbors". We invade countries further away, because we control almost everything close to us. It's not OK, but people vote for more because war makes money, and the US has adopted an overtly fascist military stance since resolving WWII.

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by jelizondo on Sunday June 06, @12:17AM (9 children)

      by jelizondo (653) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 06, @12:17AM (#1142196) Journal

      I have some questions.

      According to reputable sources (i.e. Forbes [forbes.com]) the number of mainland Chinese going to America, Europe and Africa is around 150 million [statista.com] each year, spending about 250 billion U.S. dollars, making them the top spenders.

      Hundreds of thousands of Chinese students [studyinternational.com] study abroad, mainly in the U.S. and Europe.

      For those of us old enough to remember, when the Soviet Union was a thing, many performers, diplomats and basically anybody who could, would defect and claim asylum in any foreign country they could reach.

      Funny thing is, the Chinese return home after their vacation abroad or after concluding their studies. (Yes, yes; some stay abroad but most return and those who stay abroad come back to visit family.)

      If China is such a gulag, why the hell people return? Clearly, the western media is not telling us the whole story and so the question is: what are they not telling us?

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday June 06, @01:19AM (4 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 06, @01:19AM (#1142215) Homepage Journal

        China has 5000 years of culture that the Soviet did not have.

        Brainwashing is probably too harsh and polarized a term, but the Chinese are most certainly conditioned by their culture, just as we are conditioned by our own culture.

        The CCP takes advantage of that conditioning in ways that were impossible for the Soviet. Racial and cultural homogeneity works in their favor. Any and all prejudice that a Han Chinese meets in his travels only reinforces his indoctrination.

        The individual Chinese is far more apt to tolerate abuse from the state that almost no one, anywhere, will tolerate from their own government.

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        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by jelizondo on Sunday June 06, @04:09AM (2 children)

          by jelizondo (653) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 06, @04:09AM (#1142246) Journal

          I'm sure you know that in most countries people are not allowed to own guns, so from an American point of view, those governments are repressive and undemocratic.

          Most European countries have national health services, paid by taxpayers and are horrified of the American private insurance scheme.

          What constitutes "abuse" depends on your point of view.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @11:33AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @11:33AM (#1142333)

            I'm not a Chinese citizen and never would want to be one. But I bet you many Chinese citizens are happy to feel safe walking down the street in Shanghai and not need a gun at all to feel safe.

            Many have seen too many idiots in their 1+ billion population (pooping in airplane aisles, fountains, etc) and are not brainwashed and conditioned by the NRA to think that everyone having easy access to guns makes them safer in practice.

            Lastly, non-retards know that a fucking gun wouldn't have saved Tank Man from the tank, in fact holding a gun would probably have got him killed faster than him holding a shopping bag. But US retards are a special breed of retards. So I can't wait for the day the NRA or similar regularly lends/gives every Super Bowl attendee a gun so that they can all shoot the bad guys shooting at people... ;)

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday June 06, @12:48PM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 06, @12:48PM (#1142344) Journal

            I'm sure you know that in most countries people are not allowed to own guns, so from an American point of view, those governments are repressive and undemocratic.

            And I'm sure you're aware that there's a significant firearm control movement in the US. Just like any other country, there are huge differences of opinion as to the value of firearm ownership and its value to a democracy.

            Personally, I would consider such a government a bit more repressive and undemocratic because due to those firearm restrictions they are more repressive and undemocratic. Allowing significant firearm ownership demonstrates a level of empowerment and responsibility delegated to the public, a very democratic thing.

            Most European countries have national health services, paid by taxpayers and are horrified of the American private insurance scheme.

            As we all should be. That doesn't mean that a well-run national health service would be better than a well-run private insurance scheme (my thinking is otherwise). The US system is deeply and thoroughly broken, with no intent to fix in sight.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @05:57AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @05:57AM (#1142275)

          > The individual Chinese is far more apt to tolerate abuse

          And inflict it. That's the disaster happening in our universities that so happily took the Chinese students and now fill their staff with Chinese graduates.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @02:04AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @02:04AM (#1142222)
        • (Score: 2) by jelizondo on Sunday June 06, @04:02AM

          by jelizondo (653) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 06, @04:02AM (#1142241) Journal

          I wrote mainland Chinese in order to avoid Hong Kong because ethnical Chinese in that island were brought in a western society with western values and expectations.

          The sources you use to claim "strawman" is a survey of fucking 224 Chinese! (Yes, 224. It does not even compute in the error bars of a proper survery.) I quoted over a 150 MILLION Chinese leaving the country and returning every year.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @11:24AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @11:24AM (#1142330)

        Perhaps the racial discrimination they receive from people like you is worse than what they're getting from the CCP?

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday June 07, @07:54PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday June 07, @07:54PM (#1142873) Journal

        To get a Green Card here in the US the average Chinese person needs to have a job lined up already unless they already have relatives here.

        That right there filters out the vast majority of Chinese people who would like to live here.

        Of the people who are able to overcome the various obstacles to emigrating anywhere, the US is by far the most popular. And, the Chinese immigrant population is growing very quickly.

        So most of the people returning have no other choice.

        Chinese Immigrants in the United States [migrationpolicy.org]

        The population of Chinese immigrants in the United States has grown nearly seven-fold since 1980, reaching almost 2.5 million in 2018, or 5.5 percent of the overall foreign-born population. Whereas in 1980 Chinese immigrants did not appear among the ten largest foreign-born groups in the United States, China in 2018 replaced Mexico as the top sending country. After immigrants from Mexico and India, the Chinese represented the third largest group in the U.S. foreign-born population of nearly 45 million in 2018

        China is the main source of foreign students enrolled in U.S. higher education, and its nationals received the second-largest number of employer-sponsored H-1B temporary visas in fiscal year 2018, after Indians. Chinese nationals received nearly half of EB-5 investor green cards in 2018.

        The United States is the top destination for Chinese immigrants, accounting for almost 27 percent of the more than 12 million Chinese living outside of China, according to mid-2019 estimates by the United Nations Population Division.

        Compared to the overall foreign- and native-born populations in the United States, Chinese immigrants are significantly better educated and more likely to be employed in management positions. Almost 30 percent of Chinese who obtain lawful permanent residence in the United States (also known as getting a green card) did so through employment-based routes; the remainder qualified through family ties or as asylees.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by aliks on Saturday June 05, @08:30PM (13 children)

    by aliks (357) on Saturday June 05, @08:30PM (#1142146)

    Our friends in the East seem to be pulling ahead of you, and not just in isolated areas.

    Maybe because they don't waste all their money on the military?

    Just asking . . . .

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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @08:56PM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @08:56PM (#1142147)

      Maybe because they don't waste all their money on the military?

      Possibly, but industrial espionage may also play a large role too.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @09:37PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @09:37PM (#1142157)

        Do they use PowerPoint?

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by aliks on Saturday June 05, @10:08PM (3 children)

        by aliks (357) on Saturday June 05, @10:08PM (#1142163)

        Hmmm,
        Not sure how industrial espionage allows you to become a world leader in any technology. Surely it just means you keep a short distance behind the people you copy from.

        But the real problem for the spying narrative is that there are no real "industrial secrets". For sure there is expertise, but you can get all the documentation you like about some piece of technical wizardry, but no matter how many times you read it, you won't become a tech wizard. Its incredibly rare that a significant advance is so mysterious that a competent expert cannot work out how to replicate.

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        • (Score: 4, Interesting) by mhajicek on Saturday June 05, @11:31PM (2 children)

          by mhajicek (51) on Saturday June 05, @11:31PM (#1142181)

          If several of your peer or near nations are leaders in different technologies, and you steal from all of them, now you're the overall world leader.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @12:11AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @12:11AM (#1142195)

            Even if you're the leader in everything, you should steal to stay on top. The steal never ends.

            • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @12:52AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @12:52AM (#1142207)

              STOP THE STEAL!!

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by dltaylor on Saturday June 05, @11:06PM (2 children)

        by dltaylor (4693) on Saturday June 05, @11:06PM (#1142177)

        When you are demonstrably the leader in some form of technology, from whom do liberate data (which wants to be free)?

        The "West", in general, and the United States, in particular, have "leaders" (civilian and government), and Intellectual Property laws serving them, more interested in lining their own pockets than this type of project, and millions of useless drones that fantasize about being one of them by producing some silly "app".

        Collectively, we lost the lead in tech, including biomedical, back in the early 1970s. We just haven't noticed it until now.

        One way to fix it would be to scrap all the IP laws on tech, invest more in the universities post-grad programs, and let private enterprise do the productizing and production, rather like NASA doing the research and publishing it.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @06:01AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @06:01AM (#1142276)

          > Collectively, we lost the lead in tech, including biomedical

          Bullshit. Who has it then?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 07, @02:28AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 07, @02:28AM (#1142597)

            Maybe the places that didn't ban research because they feel like stem cells are icky.

    • (Score: 2) by srobert on Saturday June 05, @09:35PM

      by srobert (4803) on Saturday June 05, @09:35PM (#1142156)

      With climate change being what it is, I don't care about the nationality of the lab that perfects a fusion reactor. As long as some group of humans somewhere figures out how to do it, I'll gladly credit them with saving the planet. Whether they do it in Japan, China, France, or Cameroon, I don't care. Just do it.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @09:58PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 05, @09:58PM (#1142161)

      Jews entrenched in important positions (in this case, academia and industry) are selling America up the river for China despite the collaboration being unpopular and harmful to national security. See the pic in this [freebeacon.com] article and you'll get the gist of it. An internet search regarding academia and the CCP will yield lots of examples, and the domestic co-conspirators in each case always have Jewish surnames and spade-schnozzes.

      The far east are learning wisely, themselves sharing a common goal with their hook-nosed inbred co-conspirators -- to destabilize America -- and so the CCP pay Jews the money, then the Jews hand them the IP.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @12:25AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @12:25AM (#1142200)

        Well, I for one welcome our circumcised overlords!

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @02:38AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @02:38AM (#1142226)

      Why it pays to read TFA, all the way to the end

      The experiment of EAST is part of the International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor (ITER) facility, a global big science project second only to the International Space Station in size, and is being jointly constructed by China, the EU, India, Japan, South Korea, Russia and the US

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by MIRV888 on Saturday June 05, @10:42PM (2 children)

    by MIRV888 (11376) on Saturday June 05, @10:42PM (#1142175)

    They copied every piece of military hardware we have well enough. Why couldn't they do big science too?

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday June 06, @01:27AM (1 child)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 06, @01:27AM (#1142216) Homepage Journal

      You realize that your reply is overly simplistic. Copying is not the same as understanding. I can copy a thesis on fusion energy, but that doesn't mean I can build a fusion reactor, or even a fusion bomb. There are millions of Chinese who are actually studying the stuff that is published, the stuff that is stolen, and in some cases, they are making their own discoveries and breakthroughs.

      Wuhan Institute of Virology, for instance, was doing world class work, until they apparently fucked up.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @06:04AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @06:04AM (#1142278)

        I heard their propaganda is world class too. Some people even believe in their Wuhan Joke Hoax Flu DIE HERD DIE fake news bleach.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @01:36PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @01:36PM (#1142355)

    Right now chinese cities are having severe power issues. This will help with that, right?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @07:44PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @07:44PM (#1142451)

    Polywell fusion, go look it up.

    Bought by the Navy.

    Currently RUNNING on TWO Carriers and ONE Submarine.

    My question is how many Tests did these things pass before
    being ALLOWED on ships?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @10:12PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 06, @10:12PM (#1142489)

    so with that tokamak design .. what is it then that keeps it @ a perpetual 30 years in the future?
    it seems the design, due to material limitation, calls for a "big design".
    so going with a tokamak design, fusion is possible but it needs to be YUGE ... thus it will never be fusion in your car or home!
    *horray* for the centralized energy management and distribution camp!?

    i guess what is missing is something like the genius adaptation of a centrifugal water pump to a rocket motor to get to orbit?

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