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posted by Fnord666 on Friday June 11 2021, @09:17PM   Printer-friendly
from the www.or.not.to.www dept.

Google is going to stop hiding urls in Chrome. Apparently it didn't pan out the way they wanted it to. I guess they wanted to make it less complicated or less confusing for the users but it turned out to be a security issue?

Google Chrome will once again show a website's full URL:

Google has now punted and admitted the idea didn't work as it expected. "Deleted simplified domain experiment," wrote tech lead Emily Stark. "This experiment didn't move relevant security metrics, so we're not going to launch it."

The change is now live in Chrome 91, with only the "https://" hidden by default. However, it's easy to show that as well simply by right- or ctrl-clicking on the omnibox and selecting "always show full URLs," as Android Police pointed out.

Details in bug report update.


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  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 11 2021, @09:49PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 11 2021, @09:49PM (#1144397)

    It's always some kind of experiment when you're dealing with Jew-run software and Jew-run platforms. You can never just have something usable with them, it's always poking a stick in the direction you're walking and seeing what you do to get around it. Jews do that for fun, they don't even need to garner any scientific results from any study or anything. They're just natural born assholes.

  • (Score: 5, Touché) by Tork on Friday June 11 2021, @09:54PM (1 child)

    by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 11 2021, @09:54PM (#1144400)
    So they re-fixed a problem that was solved back when Deep Space Nine was still on the air. Well I dunno about you but I'm gonna crack open a bottle of bubbly.
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @06:49PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @06:49PM (#1144656)

      So they re-fixed a problem that was solved back when Deep Space Nine was still on the air. Well I dunno about you but I'm gonna crack open a bottle of bubbly.

      Yep, that what I use my head for.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by SomeGuy on Friday June 11 2021, @09:57PM (33 children)

    by SomeGuy (5632) on Friday June 11 2021, @09:57PM (#1144401)

    Wow, only an idiot would have thought hiding part of a site name would not cause problems.

    You know, there is no law that says HTTP and HTTPS to the same server can't show different content. Of course, google wants to get rid of normal HTTP or anything else that isn't under their thumb.

    Also, there is no law that says www.example.com and example.com can't have different content. And sometimes they do. Or geting forced to one over the other can cause little problems. For example, if you are logged in on https://soylentnews.org, [soylentnews.org,] go to https://www.soylentnews.org, [www.soylentnews.org,] and you may not be logged in.

    If a site wants to get rid of "www" they can redrect to their DNS name without anything in front. But clearly some sites don't want to do that.

    Of course, screwgle just want to replace DNS with their magic keywords and apps so they can be the one true gatekeeper to the internet.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by sjames on Friday June 11 2021, @10:23PM (8 children)

      by sjames (2882) on Friday June 11 2021, @10:23PM (#1144404) Journal

      Even if it wasn't blindingly obvious, they could have looked at how well it went when MS decided to hide file extensions and enable billions in economic damage.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @06:11AM (7 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @06:11AM (#1144510)

        What was really fucked about MS systems was the .scr suffix. It would hide it no matter what. You just about needed third-party tools to see the full filename.
        "Blah.txt.scr" would show up as "Blah" if you were hiding extensions and as "blah.txt", if you weren't. Either way, if you clicked it it would execute it as a dos script file.

        I don't have a current windows system to check, but try making a new text file then renaming it to name.txt.scr and see what happens.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @06:40AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @06:40AM (#1144522)

          My Windows Explorer shows it as: name.txt.scr

          Tested on Windows 7.

          I've never experienced scr remaining hidden after configuring Windows Explorer to not hide file suffixes. Maybe your system was pwned?

        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @06:58AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @06:58AM (#1144524)

          Just tested that here. The ".scr" file extension is not hidden anymore.
          However, the Program Information File ".pif" file extension does get hidden in the File Explorer. Command line tools see the file extension properly, but once it has the .pif extension it cannot be renamed from within File Explorer. Wikipedia's entry for ".pif" [wikipedia.org] says it's considered a "semi-executable" and viruses have exploited the file type in the past.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @01:36PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @01:36PM (#1144564)

            Damn, it was a long time ago, it might have been .shs .scr stuck in my memory but looking it up the shell scrap descriptor rings a bell.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @02:28AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @02:28AM (#1144741)

          The "scr" extension was windows screensavers, not dos scripts.

          It was commonly used to get around slipshod email filters that rejected attachments with an "exe" extension.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 15 2021, @02:58AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 15 2021, @02:58AM (#1145353)

          You are half right. SCR files are screen savers. However, Windows allows for screen savers to be regular executable files. IIRC, they are supposed to support a specific API, but Windows does not enforce that API consistently. Regardless, when put in the proper directory for screen savers and (and possibly with the "system" file attribute), Windows would hide the .scr file extension regardless of whether they were marked to show or not. Somebody figured out that if you added a second file extension that the trick you mentioned would work to further obfuscate the true purpose of the file. Microsoft quickly patched the latter trick, but the former about hiding the .scr unconditionally in the proper folder wasn't fixed until Vista changed the way Win32 handled screen savers.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 15 2021, @04:19PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 15 2021, @04:19PM (#1145563)

            Like I said in another post up higher, I was mixing the two up. It was actually the shell scrap .shs extension that was always hidden and acted like an executable. What was also fucked up was the icon was very similar to the icon for a .txt

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 15 2021, @09:28PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 15 2021, @09:28PM (#1145667)

              Oh yes! Now I remember what you are talking about. SHB files do not show their extension even today (a couple other extensions don't either and you can even set your own in the registry) and Windows opens them like standard executables when you double click them. I believe that .shs went through the standard COM opening process instead of the generic file open process, but that may have changed somewhere along the line. Thankfully, SHS/SHB files aren't supported after XP, but I believe the hiding rules still applies. For those wondering, they look like a white page with partially highlighted text, to illustrate their main used as part of the copy/paste process.

    • (Score: 0, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Friday June 11 2021, @11:12PM (23 children)

      by fakefuck39 (6620) on Friday June 11 2021, @11:12PM (#1144409)

      no, there's no law. what there is is an icon, which shows secure or not secure. which does not map to http vs https. you can have a combination of content, or some parts of https can be broken. so they have an icon reflecting many possible encryption states. i'm very unclear why anyone in their right mind would argue your point. the icon is Much better than showing http vs https.

      www.example.com and example.com can't have different content

      and yet here we are - I have a limited amount of space in the url bar, and you apparently want that to be taken up by "https://www.soylentnews.org." Cool. On my phone I see "https://www.soy..." - https://www.greati... [www.greati...]

      • (Score: 5, Informative) by Booga1 on Friday June 11 2021, @11:30PM (12 children)

        by Booga1 (6333) on Friday June 11 2021, @11:30PM (#1144410)

        www.example.com and example.com can't have different content

        What? They absolutely can have different content. There's nothing except pure traditional convention that points www.whatever.com to the same content as whatever.com.

        • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Friday June 11 2021, @11:39PM (11 children)

          by fakefuck39 (6620) on Friday June 11 2021, @11:39PM (#1144412)

          glad you understand the text i copied and pasted from the post i replied to. thank you for sharing with the world that you can kinda read.

          • (Score: 3, Informative) by Booga1 on Saturday June 12 2021, @12:12AM (10 children)

            by Booga1 (6333) on Saturday June 12 2021, @12:12AM (#1144417)

            The way it's written makes it look to me like you were trying to claim they couldn't be different and disputing the post you were replying to. It would have been clearer if you put quotes in quotes and even better using the "quote" markup tags.

            • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Saturday June 12 2021, @12:48AM (9 children)

              by fakefuck39 (6620) on Saturday June 12 2021, @12:48AM (#1144432)

              I didn't need to put it in quotes sherlock. My post started with "no, there's no law."

              then I made a point about no law for https vs http, and no law for the www part. the "no law" applies to what you think should have been put in quotes.

              look, if enrish is a second language for you, or you're too dumb to read, stop telling people online to dumb it down for you. fuck off.

              • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @01:37AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @01:37AM (#1144455)

                perhaps you should go take a chill pill and lie down, Dave

                (and open the pod bay doors your own damn self)

              • (Score: 3, Informative) by kazzie on Saturday June 12 2021, @04:44AM

                by kazzie (5309) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 12 2021, @04:44AM (#1144490)

                I misread the post in the same way; I only went back and re-read it because of this discussion below it.

                I'll grant you that I'm reading it first thing in the morning, on my phone's screen. My bleary eyes took a few moments to distinguish between the commas and full stops in the passage, and given the lack of capital letters, I too got the wrong end of the stick at first.

                (I'm not writing this to lambast your writing style - heck this is the internet, and grammar and punctuation norms vary wildly. I just want to note that GP is not alone in misunderstanding that post.)

              • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @05:55AM (6 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @05:55AM (#1144506)

                Oh look. Once again the retard who can't spell, can't use capitalization, can't use punctuation, and apparently can't use quotes either is criticizing someone else's English skills.

                What a moron.

                • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @08:27AM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @08:27AM (#1144534)

                  His username kind of tells you what to expect from him.

                  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @04:13PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @04:13PM (#1144602)

                    Misread as facefuck. Did not get what I expected. -1

                • (Score: 1, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Saturday June 12 2021, @08:31PM (3 children)

                  by fakefuck39 (6620) on Saturday June 12 2021, @08:31PM (#1144673)

                  Capitalization, proper punctuation, and correcting spelling is for work emails. Let me explain it to you - someone with only basic English skills, despite it being the only language you speak: formal grammar is not the only grammar. When I'm on my phone taking a shit and typing w/ my thumb, on a random internet forum, the only thing that matters is communicating the idea. this is not a fucking phd dissertation, and it's pointless to correct spelling or proofread.

                  the moron here (you) is someone who does not understand the actual words being plainly communicated, and complains about grammar. Do you also go to a mcdonalds and complain there's no hostess at the door to seat you?

                  you issue is lack of physical world social contact, which is why you lack understanding of what is appropriate where. this is because you are extremely physically repulsive.

                  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @09:34PM (2 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @09:34PM (#1144691)

                    Perhaps if you want to be taken seriously, you should learn to communicate clearly in coherently in English like most everyone else here, instead of typing in retardo-fakefuck troll speak or whatever you want to call it today. But hey, if you want to look like the idiot you clearly must be, who am I to stop you?

                    • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Sunday June 13 2021, @08:25PM (1 child)

                      by fakefuck39 (6620) on Sunday June 13 2021, @08:25PM (#1144870)

                      >who am I to stop you?
                      you are a person with autism - a physical incurable defect with your body, causing you to not comprehend basic things. because of your disease, you expect the world to adjust to you, because you are physically unable to join it. no one cares.

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 14 2021, @12:40AM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 14 2021, @12:40AM (#1144907)

                        you expect the world to adjust to you

                        Ha, really? You're the one that uses English like an utter imbecile, and when people point it out your response is basically "lol I type like I'm retarded, deal with it". If anyone here is autistic, it's you, though really the most likely explanation is that you're simply an uneducated, stupid, ignorant fucktard. And yes, no one cares.

      • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @05:08AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @05:08AM (#1144500)

        On my phone I see "https://www.soy..." - https://www.greati... [www.greati...] [www.greati...]

        And...???

        If you choose to browse on a device with extremely limited screen real-estate, that is your business. But don't go demanding that those of us on real computers with real full size screens should have to look at trimmed down, sanitized, URL's because your phone's screen isn't big enough to show what a full size screen shows.

        Do your URL shortening/sanitizing/cleanup on your phone, but don't migrate the same to the desktop browser.

        • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Saturday June 12 2021, @04:25PM

          by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 12 2021, @04:25PM (#1144611) Homepage Journal

          URL shortening is a necessary evil when there's not enough space for a URL.

        • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Saturday June 12 2021, @08:38PM

          by fakefuck39 (6620) on Saturday June 12 2021, @08:38PM (#1144674)

          that's a cute opinion and all. here in the real world, i and the rest of the world (not you) want the same behavior on a browser for the url bar, irrelevant of what platform we use it on. I don't need https because there's a lock icon. i don't need www because it's useless in the real world, and is unneeded distracting information. and if you and .01% people want that, you can turn that on. but the lowest common denominator - the autistic people hyperfocused on irrelevant shit "just because" - that's not going to be the default. what the target audience wants (not you) is the default. and while the autists like yourself would love the default to be cartoons fucking when you open pornhub, or having useless information eat up address bar space, the world here does not care about what you want, how you use anything, or your opinion on anything. In fact, the only purpose you serve for us, is to provide us perspective. As shitty as a normal person's life is, it could always be worse - just look at that creepy weird ugly guy who smells like cum and bo, and freaks out, sweats, and panics, just because there are people around.

          >Do your URL shortening/sanitizing/cleanup on your phone, but don't migrate the same to the desktop browser.
          how about I and everyone else don't do that. how about you do whatever it is you want, and we'll just use things that are more usable.

      • (Score: 2) by Tork on Saturday June 12 2021, @07:32PM

        by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 12 2021, @07:32PM (#1144667)
        Heh. I rarely get to brag but my smartphone lets me scroll through any text field including the URL bar.
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @01:58AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @01:58AM (#1144732)

        Gee an icon thats really helpful when I want to know exactly what it is doing

        • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Sunday June 13 2021, @03:26AM (2 children)

          by fakefuck39 (6620) on Sunday June 13 2021, @03:26AM (#1144748)

          gee, a stoplight with 3 lights. that's s helpful sarcassm, why not shw 2 states instead of 3, and use up more space! it makes sense to autists, why won't the world work how autists want it to?

          so you know what's 'going on' without a status? what's going on, is there are many states of encryption on thr displayed page, which the icon shows. you're too dumb to understand what a green closed lock means, or what a red broken lock means, or what an unlocked lock means. we get it -you're stupid. the defaults aren't for you. the rest of us can understand the much more detailed icon, so we don't want the http/s label, because it's missing important information.

          start with a children's coloring book. you'll get icons eventually. then you'll understand stoplgjts and road signs, and we might let you drive.

          just kidding. driving means going outside, with all those people casing you to sweat and panic.

          enjoy your autism. we all definitely do. very entertainng to laugh at your disease.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @11:23PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @11:23PM (#1144904)

            does it make you feel better to flame people and call them retards online?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 15 2021, @03:41AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 15 2021, @03:41AM (#1145366)

              If it did, then he would satiate and stop. Instead, the high he is chasing keeps getting evermore elusive. His desire, no need, to obtain that high grows stronger but remains out of his grasp as the hedonic treadmill continues to accelerate below him.

      • (Score: 1) by tyler on Sunday June 13 2021, @01:58PM (1 child)

        by tyler (6335) on Sunday June 13 2021, @01:58PM (#1144798) Homepage

        Sure they can.

        $ host -t A soylentnews.org
        soylentnews.org has address 23.239.29.31
        $ host -t A www.soylentnews.org
        www.soylentnews.org is an alias for soylentnews.org.
        soylentnews.org has address 23.239.29.31

        There is nothing about DNS that prevents the www record from having its own A or AAAA record. In this case it is a CNAME pointing to soylentnews.org, but it could easily be a CNAME pointing to slashdot.org.

        • (Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Sunday June 13 2021, @08:22PM

          by fakefuck39 (6620) on Sunday June 13 2021, @08:22PM (#1144869)

          >Sure they can.

          Glad you agree with what I wrote then - that 2 different host records can point to different things - something literally everyone knows. What we also know, is reading things before replying to them. Else you might make quite the fool of yourself.

          Now, instead of explaining the basics of how dns works to people on a tech site, you should spend your time fully reading the post I replied to, and my reply. Maybe an English class would help, or perhaps your ADHD medicine.

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 11 2021, @10:49PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 11 2021, @10:49PM (#1144406)

    I hereby declare that I, Poppy, the happy penis, am king of this entire land.

    I will be establishing a new currency and language based around penis.

    I love you all,

    Poppy, the happy penis!

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by VanessaE on Friday June 11 2021, @10:52PM

    by VanessaE (3396) <vanessa.e.dannenberg@gmail.com> on Friday June 11 2021, @10:52PM (#1144408) Journal

    This should have been "from the no-shit-sherlock dept."

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 11 2021, @11:48PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 11 2021, @11:48PM (#1144414)

    That's why I Duckduckgo instead.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday June 12 2021, @12:23AM (1 child)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 12 2021, @12:23AM (#1144422) Journal

      Well, that's one of the reasons. Don't forget that some of the other "search engines" suck harder than Google. Bing, for instance, has all of Google's downsides, and none of the upsides.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @03:10AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @03:10AM (#1144478)

        Granted, I haven't used Bing in a few years, but back then it wasn't really any worse than Google. Which is to say that it was complete shit, but then again so is Google at this point, absolute garbage.

    • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @06:08PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @06:08PM (#1144644)

      i hate the talmudic jew scum at google, but ddg results suck.

  • (Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @12:47AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @12:47AM (#1144430)

    However, it's easy to show that as well simply by right- or ctrl-clicking on the omnibox and selecting "always show full URLs," as Android Police pointed out.

    Hey Mr Policeman, can you help me please? Can you tell me where the f*k is the f*n right-click on this f*n Android phone?

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @04:15PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @04:15PM (#1144603)

      Sure - first take your middle finger, like this, and then point it at yourself, like this.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by ataradov on Saturday June 12 2021, @01:24AM

    by ataradov (4776) on Saturday June 12 2021, @01:24AM (#1144448) Homepage

    Now I can remove that stupid suspicious site reporter plugin, which used to unscrew their screw up.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by bzipitidoo on Saturday June 12 2021, @02:24AM

    by bzipitidoo (4388) on Saturday June 12 2021, @02:24AM (#1144467) Journal

    Been a Firefox user since before it was called Firefox. Not being able to see the entire URL creeped me out, and kept me far away from Chrome.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @02:26PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @02:26PM (#1144573)

    just fix the blink tag, it would be the 90s all over again.

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