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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday June 17 2021, @02:58AM   Printer-friendly
from the blame-shifting dept.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/06/amazon-blames-social-media-companies-for-sales-of-fake-amazon-reviews/

Amazon today said it can't stop fake product reviews without help from social media companies, and it blamed those companies for not doing more to prevent solicitation of fake reviews.

In a blog post, Amazon said its own "continued improvements in detection of fake reviews and connections between bad-actor buying and selling accounts" has led to "an increasing trend of bad actors attempting to solicit fake reviews outside Amazon, particularly via social media services."


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 17 2021, @04:04AM (8 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 17 2021, @04:04AM (#1146334) Journal

    I'm not a big Amazon user - but Amazon knows my purchase history for at least the past five years, and probably retains my history since forever. They know what I've bought through Amazon, and they damn sure know what I haven't bought. I noticed a question about a product that I had purchased through other channels one day, and attempted to leave a review, and to answer that question about the product. It didn't work.

    In my honest opinion, Amazon is somehow complicit in all those fake reviews. They stopped me from leaving an honest review, they can certainly stop the fakes.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @05:33AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @05:33AM (#1146366)

      What do you know? Some amazon cocksuckers have infiltrated SN and mod down anti-Amazon comments.

      Cocksuckers.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @07:05AM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @07:05AM (#1146383)

      What is that Fauci sign-off about? It's sycophants, btw.

      • (Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 17 2021, @07:38AM (4 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 17 2021, @07:38AM (#1146397) Journal

        Psychotic sycophants deserve their own word. LOL, it has taken weeks for anyone to notice my special spelling.

        As for Fauci, he provably knew years ago that government funds were being used for gain of function virus research. He asked us to trust the science, then did everything possible to hide that science from us.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @02:51PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @02:51PM (#1146497)

          psycoenvy

        • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @02:58PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @02:58PM (#1146502)

          We noticed. We just gave it the attention it deserved.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @11:18PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @11:18PM (#1146752)

          Yeah, your buddy Tucker gets you guys all riled up, then it all fades away because there never was any substance there to begin with [washingtonpost.com].

          The "fool me once", "fool me twice" thing isn't even appropriate because you guys get into the "fool me N time" routine and you STILL never learn.

          Let me guess, your sig going to change soon to how the FBI was behind Jan 6th? Isn't that the latest thing he's floating? Man, you guys will go for anything.

          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 17 2021, @11:26PM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 17 2021, @11:26PM (#1146758) Journal

            Funny you mention that. Where did the "bombs" come from? The FBI claims to have video of bombs being planted. They've released that video. Can you tell there's a bomb? Can you actually see two bombs? And, the FBI can't identify the guy. Odd - facial recognition, gait recognition, they can identify the guy's shoes - but they can't identify the man.

            I think an FBI agent planted two fake bombs, and the FBI sure as hell isn't going to identify their agent.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 18 2021, @07:56PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 18 2021, @07:56PM (#1147111)

      This scam has been described here and on Slashdot before.

      People make fake accounts with false addresses and send random stuff to those false addresses. Then they submit reviews of their products from those accounts that are tied to false addresses.

      The answer is simple. A verified purchaser needs to be accompanied by a verified address. It's simple. Amazon can send an account code via snail mail that the account holder can insert into Amazon to verify the address. They can resend a new one once a year or once every two or three years or whatever to verify that the address is valid and up to date. At the very least this will ensure that the person that submitted the review was able to somehow obtain the verification code from the physical address which substantially reduces the ability of people to cheat.

      They can even include the account code with one of the products that's already being delivered to the physical address so they never have to make special trips.

      I don't know why Amazon doesn't do this. It's really common sense. Or maybe they don't really want to solve the fake review problem but this is a practical, simple, common sense solution that would substantially solve the problem.

  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @05:00AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @05:00AM (#1146349)

    till about 10 years ago.

    Now, online, I buy stuff from eBay, the outfit that I had thought that caters to scumbag buyers and sellers.

    Ask yourself. If eBay is more respectable than Amazon ...

    FTC needs to break up Amazon.

    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday June 17 2021, @03:53PM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday June 17 2021, @03:53PM (#1146542) Journal

      It's pretty damn crazy that my free shipping account comes with a damn video streaming service! That's textbook anticompetitive behavior right there.

      But, the Bush DOJ basically said that's legal when they dropped the Microsoft charges so here we are.

  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @05:13AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @05:13AM (#1146354)

    like whether vaccines are safe (they are)

    I guess that's why the pharmas demanded that the FDA grant them complete legal immunity from any liability for vaccine injury? Because they're so safe?

    Can you idiots hear yourselves?

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html [cnbc.com]

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @07:57AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @07:57AM (#1146402)

      I guess that's why the pharmas demanded that the FDA grant them complete legal immunity from any liability for vaccine injury? Because they're so safe?

      I think it speaks more to the idiocy of the American legal system than anything else.

      -- Dear jury, I got this vaccine and it made me spill coffee onto my crotch and now I can't have babies! I ask for 1 gajillion dollars!
      -- Seems legit. You shall get 59.34 gajillion dollars as we calculate the perpetual wage earnings of your family as it would have spread throughout the galaxy
      -- Thank you. Justice served!

  • (Score: 1, Troll) by Frosty Piss on Thursday June 17 2021, @05:20AM (1 child)

    by Frosty Piss (4971) on Thursday June 17 2021, @05:20AM (#1146358)

    I have not purchased through Amazon or any one of their many street level drug dealers in more than 15 years. Yet it’s still clear they track my every move on the Intertubes. For example, Jeff Bezos is currently aware that I am suffering from projectile diarrhea, and the suggestions in my web searches for equations related to navigational formulas tell me that Amazon is intensely interested in my bowel movements.

    • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 17 2021, @05:52AM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 17 2021, @05:52AM (#1146374) Journal

      Troll post, or not? As a member of SN, you're obviously not one of the clueless mass of sheeple. You KNOW that you can prevent Amazon tracking you. You can prevent almost all online tracking, if you set your mind to it, do the research, and take appropriate actions. You can even prevent Microsoft tracking and telemetry of Windows machines, if you're willing to do the work necessary.

      If you want Amazon out of your bowels, then get them out of your bowels.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @05:50AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 17 2021, @05:50AM (#1146372)

    How about another joke, Murray?
    How about another joke, Murray?
    How about another joke, Murray?

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by VLM on Thursday June 17 2021, @03:07PM (1 child)

    by VLM (445) on Thursday June 17 2021, @03:07PM (#1146511)

    I've found the real problem with reviews is people "saving money" by selling all kinds of ridiculous shit under the same product as variations of one product.

    So you have something like socks, roofing nails, and machine hex nuts all combined reviews on amazon. "one star Rusted after five years outside" "one star Size too small for my feet" "one star About five percent are unthreaded and one in a hundred do not even have a hole" like WTF amazon so useless.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Freeman on Thursday June 17 2021, @03:54PM

      by Freeman (732) on Thursday June 17 2021, @03:54PM (#1146544) Journal

      I noticed some of the same thing happening on other retail sites as well. It's stupid and anti-consumer.

      --
      Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
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