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posted by mrpg on Saturday June 19 2021, @08:39PM   Printer-friendly
from the I-saw-it-coming dept.

In the visual thalamus, neurons are in contact with both eyes but respond to only one:

We have two eyes, but perceive the tree in front of us only once. Our brain therefore has the complicated task of combining the information of both eyes in a meaningful way. To do so, visual stimuli first travel from the retina via so-called ganglion cells to the visual thalamus. There, the information does end up in clearly defined areas -- depending on the type and eye-of-origin of retinal ganglion cells transporting the visual stimuli. Signals from the right and left eye are thus clearly separated in the visual thalamus and independently transmitted to the visual cortex. Only in this brain region, the incoming information is combined -- at least according to a long-standing theory.

However, recent anatomical studies describe that a surprising number of neurons in the mouse visual thalamus has contact to both eyes. Does the separation of 'left eye' and 'right eye' information channels not hold true in mice? Scientists from Tobias Bonhoeffer's department wanted to shed more light on this newly raised question. They further developed an optogenetic method, so that they could activate ganglion cells of both eyes successively with light of different colors and measure the corresponding electrical responses in a thalamic cell.

Journal Reference:
Joel Bauer, Simon Weiler, Martin H.P. Fernholz, David Laubender, Volker Scheuss, Mark Hübener, Tobias Bonhoeffer, Tobias Rose. Limited functional convergence of eye-specific inputs in the retinogeniculate pathway of the mouse. Neuron, 2021; DOI: 10.1016/j.neuron.2021.05.036


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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 20 2021, @12:03AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 20 2021, @12:03AM (#1147367)

    Can you see both sides of the argument at once?

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 20 2021, @04:26AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 20 2021, @04:26AM (#1147414)
    Hey, please fix the article summary to give the correct journal citation:

    Limited functional convergence of eye-specific inputs in the retinogeniculate pathway of the mouse
    J Bauer, S Weiler, MHP Fernholz, D Laubender, V Scheuss, M Hübener, T Bonhoeffer, T Rose
    Neuron (online), June 18, 2021. doi:10.1016/j.neuron.2021.05.036 [doi.org] [doi.org]

    A better summary [www.mpg.de] [www.mpg.de] is also available from the research institute MPG.

    I would like to read the original paper but I cannot because it is unfortunately behind the Great Paywall and other options are not working at the moment. The conclusions of this research as described in the summary do not seem to be justified by the experimental method and results. The results in the summary are enough to show only "limited functional connection" and "ocular dominance" in the LGN spiking responses, but some kind of binocular functional connection could still occur under other stimuli, conditions, and protocols which the experiment did not investigate. It is difficult to prove a negative.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by dltaylor on Sunday June 20 2021, @09:18AM

    by dltaylor (4693) on Sunday June 20 2021, @09:18AM (#1147458)

    Off-hand this looks like another case of extrapolation from too little data. Rodents do predate, but are also significant prey, so their eyes are rather more lateral than primates. The function of "seeing" in rodents may have little to do with the same function in primates. Can they fMRI some primates?

    FWIW, many humans are cross-dominant, including me. I function almost exclusively right-handed, but my brain relies more on data from the left eye. Simple test: focus on an object apparently narrower than that a finger at arm's length and cover the object with a finger; most people will see a double image of finger, but one of them will more strongly obscure the distant object; alternately close each eye and discover which eye is dominant for you.

  • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Sunday June 20 2021, @09:05PM

    by acid andy (1683) on Sunday June 20 2021, @09:05PM (#1147546) Homepage Journal

    I wrote on this subject [soylentnews.org] before but I'm not sure many people saw it:

    The way we perceive depth seems impossible. Our visual field appears to be a sharp, continuous two-dimensional surface. But depth is vividly apparent right there too, as a clearly visible part of that surface, right in plain sight. Yet we know mathematically there's no space to fit that depth information on such a flat 2D surface, at least without degrading the resolution--which doesn't appear to happen.* If you deliberately misalign your eyes, the 2D surface shows a double image, but when they're perfectly aligned the brain is a master at reinterpreting that effect as depth. But what the hell does that experience of depth consist of? It's part of what makes subjective experience seem so exotic.

    *I suspect in actual fact the 3D effect does correspond to a slight reduction in the sharpness and/or resolution of our mind's visual field. The left and right eye's slightly different images are superimposed in a way that's probably sacrificing a bit of visual fidelity to represent depth. Two eyes probably provide a slightly better resolution than one though, so we can't just close one eye to test this.

    --
    If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
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