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posted by martyb on Wednesday July 07 2021, @12:58AM   Printer-friendly

Linux Foundation Launches Open 3D Foundation, Amazon Lumberyard Spun As Open 3D Engine

The Linux Foundation and their partners are today announcing their intent to form the Open 3D Foundation to help foster 3D game and simulation technologies. As a key part of this new Open 3D Foundation, Amazon's Lumberyard game engine that started off based on CryEngine is going to see an Apache 2.0 licensed copy made available as the Open 3D Engine (O3DE).

An "updated version" of Amazon's Lumberyard game engine is going to form the basis of the new Open 3D Engine being maintained by the Open 3D Foundation. Amazon previously made Lumberyard available on GitHub while keeping to a proprietary license but this move is indeed seeing Open 3D Engine made available under an Apache 2.0 license and "unencumbered by commercial terms and will provide the support and infrastructure of an open source community through forums, code repositories, and developer events."

[...] Besides Amazon AWS being involved with the Linux Foundation's new Open 3D Foundation, other notable vendors involved include AccelByte, Adobe, Apocalpyse Studios, International Game Developers Association, Niantic, PopcornFX, Red Hat, and Wargaming, among others.

The Open 3D Foundation website will be opening up today at o3d.foundation.

It will be interesting to see how this Open 3D Foundation and Open 3D Engine evolve over the months ahead. In today's embargoed news release there was no real mention of this being about Linux gaming -- while being an initiative backed by the Linux Foundation -- but rather a move about fostering open-source 3D efforts across vendors.


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Amazon's "New World" Game Beta Reportedly Bricked Nvidia RTX 3090 GPUs 37 comments

Amazon's New World game is bricking GeForce RTX 3090 graphics cards:

It is probably not a good idea to play New World right now. The closed Beta and Alpha builds of this game have reportedly been a reason for the bricking of GeForce RTX 3090 graphics cards, multiple users on the official game's forum have reported.

The issue appears to affect mainly GeForce RTX 3090 graphics cards which are reportedly overheating and see power spikes. The game has an uncapped framerate in the main menus, which is usually associated with buzzing capacitors. Most users however have reported that EVGA RTX 3090 cards specifically are the most affected brand. A number of the RTX 3090 cards have been bricked in the process.

[...] Update: Amazon Games released the following statement:

Hundreds of thousands of people played in the New World Closed Beta yesterday, with millions of total hours played. We've received a few reports of players using high-performance graphics cards experiencing hardware failure when playing New World.

New World makes standard DirectX calls as provided by the Windows API. We have seen no indication of widespread issues with 3090s, either in the beta or during our many months of alpha testing.

The New World Closed Beta is safe to play. In order to further reassure players, we will implement a patch today that caps frames per second on our menu screen. We're grateful for the support New World is receiving from players around the world, and will keep listening to their feedback throughout Beta and beyond.

New World (video game).

See also: Issues with EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra
r/newworldgame - Did the New World Beta brick your gpu?

Related: Micron Accidentally Confirms GDDR6X Memory, and Nvidia's RTX 3090 GPU
Nvidia Announces RTX 30-Series "Ampere" GPUs
Linux Foundation and Partners Announce "Open 3D Foundation"


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Linux Foundation Spending on Actual Linux Down to 2% of Their Budget 18 comments

Bryan Lunduke has gone over the 2023 Linux Foundation report. He has observed that the foundation spends even less on the kernel than ever, both in absolute dollars and in percentage of the budget. It spends around 2% on Linux and 98% on everything else.

While it's true that The Linux Foundation continues to grow substantially -- now bringing in over a quarter of a Billion dollars per year (seriously) -- the total amount spent on the Linux kernel dropped roughly $400,000 in 2023.   (Not surprising as The Lunduke Journal previously pointed out that lowering the total support of Linux appeared to be the goal.)

  • The percentage of The Linux Foundation revenue spent on Linux dropped in 2023.
  • And the total amount spent dropped as well.
  • All while funding of non-Linux projects (such as AI and Blockchain) continued to dominate.

As many notice, budget aside, the foundation does not advance or promote the kernel, rather the opposite. It represents its members' corporate interests inside kernel development. Bruce Perens pointed out about six years ago that the membership the basically amounts to a GPL infringers club.

Previously:
(2023) Linux Foundation Launches New Organization to Maintain TLA+
(2021) Linux Foundation and Partners Announce "Open 3D Foundation"
(2021) Linux Foundation Unveils Sigstore
(2020) Linux Foundation Does Not Eat its Own Dogfood


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @01:02AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @01:02AM (#1153519)

    No one cares about 3D... the glasses give you a headache. Focus on Linux desktop basics that users are asking for like consistent package manager across distributions, eliminating systemd, etc.

    • (Score: 1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @01:45AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @01:45AM (#1153527)

      Nobody wants a "consistent package manager across distributions", because we already have too many of them. Systemd works fine for what it's used for, never gave me any issues, and I never had to try hard not to use it. Linux desktop has been just as good as anything else for a long time +/- some configuration. What's needed is the boring and necessary work of maintaining code that works and replacing or removing code that doesn't.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Freeman on Wednesday July 07 2021, @03:21PM

      by Freeman (732) on Wednesday July 07 2021, @03:21PM (#1153718) Journal

      Wrong form of 3D, we're talking about 3D game engines. As in, typical FPS games, etc. As opposed to going to a movie to watch a "3D Movie" with those weird glasses. Those definitely hurt my head and the one I was pressured into going to, I ended up having to walk out of and waited for everyone else in the Lobby. There is Nintendo 3DS kind of 3D though, which doesn't require glasses. Still, that kind of 3D and 3D with glasses is a very niche market. Even more niche than VR at this point. VR is a much better 3D experience than the weird 3D glasses kind of 3D as well.

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    • (Score: 2) by DeVilla on Friday July 09 2021, @06:14AM

      by DeVilla (5354) on Friday July 09 2021, @06:14AM (#1154208)

      I don't think this will distract from other Linux issues. It doesn't even have build instructions for Linux. Looks like the Linux foundation is supporting a Windows-only project at the moment.

      https://github.com/o3de/o3de#build-requirements-and-redistributables [github.com]

  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday July 07 2021, @01:54AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 07 2021, @01:54AM (#1153531) Journal

    In today's embargoed news release there was no real mention of this being about Linux gaming

    You didn't look enough.

    Built for Builders: The Story of AWS and Open 3D Engine – Developer Preview [amazon.com] - the first words are

    We hear from game and simulation developers...

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @01:54AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @01:54AM (#1153532)

    Can't wait for all the purple-haired Linux trannies to come out of the woodwork and start bashing "corporate Windows."

    Even if the so-fuckin'-smart people try to make the wormy assertion that Linux foundation != Linux Kernel, their point is rendered moot because a look at the "sponsors" involved in both look like a partial listing of fortune 500 companies with a few conspicuous Chinese entries that shouldn't be included in an OS that's about "the freedom to do what you want," or something. Purple-haired Jewish trannies hate freedom unless it conforms line by line with their myopic and greedy vision.

    And as is typical of Linux, this new 3D thing will either be dead on arrival or will at best become the Linux equivalent of Silverlight, with all the adoption and longevity issues that entails. If by some miracle it manages to gain adoption, it will complete against the gazillion other 3D solutions already out there in true Linux fashion.

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @02:08AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @02:08AM (#1153534)

      the gazillion other 3D solutions already out there in true Linux fashion.

      [Citation needed]
      MESA and Nouveau - the latter because invidia plays nasty with linux.
      Rrrright. Gazzillions.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @02:32AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @02:32AM (#1153542)

      If you are really to get your Linux hate on, you require some editing, thus:

      And as is typical of Linux, this new 3D thing will either be dead on arrival free and open software or will at best become the Linux equivalent of Silverlight, with all the abortion and longevity proprietary issues that it entrails. If by some miracle it manages to gain abortion, it will complete against the gazillion other 3D solutions already out there in true Linux Micro$erf fashion.

      And Google will cancel the whole thing.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @02:59AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @02:59AM (#1153555)

      You sure bring up purple haired trannies a LOT. I have a pretty good idea what your pornhub browser cache looks like.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Wednesday July 07 2021, @03:19AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 07 2021, @03:19AM (#1153566) Journal

      Here [sciencenorway.no]

      We need more research and less scorn, and a better understanding of the incel phenomenon in order to prevent radicalisation, writes Leif Edward Ottesen Kennair.

      Do something useful [jus.uio.no]

      We are looking individuals who are 18 years old or older that self-identify as incel, or involuntary celibate. We would like to listen to why you identify as incel, your own experience as incel, and how it affects you. We are also interested in your views about the incel community, the media portrayal of incels, and the critique the “movement” has received regarding potential radicalization and violence.
      ...
      To participate contact

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @02:34AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @02:34AM (#1153543)

    This certainly won't encourage the creation of quality games for linux, because the problem isn't drivers - it's a way to get the millions it takes to make games at the level people expect today. Who wants a 3-d Tux Racer?

    The only companies wanting this want to charge for streaming server-locked stuff, so they can charge money. But it's not going to happen even with a 3-d framework for linux because there's far more money to target the main platforms.

    • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Wednesday July 07 2021, @02:55AM (1 child)

      by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 07 2021, @02:55AM (#1153551) Journal

      According to the Linux Foundation's post, the point isn't to get games on linux. It's to have a 3d engine that's actually open source, so developers don't have to be tied down to Epic or Unity and depend on software they can't read the source of to build their games and applications.

      That may matter a lot less in the gaming space, but being able to say exactly, precisely how a simulation works is somewhat core to being able to stand behind the evidence it provides.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday July 07 2021, @03:11AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 07 2021, @03:11AM (#1153563) Journal

        According to the Linux Foundation's post, the point isn't to get games on linux.

        It's not a 3D engine for CAD/CAM, tho.
        Amazon, which released it, hints [amazon.com] heavily to its gaming orientation, tho'.
        Things like

        Developers can replace the graphics renderer, audio subsystem, editor, language support, network stack, physics system, and other libraries entirely without affecting other libraries...

        Hmmm, audio and physics system? Might be for engineers with some visual impairment.
        ...

        This renderer supports multiple platforms by providing a modern physically based renderer (PBR) that is ACES colorspace-compliant and fully supports ray-tracing on Vulkan, Metal (in development), and DirectX 12. Atom ships with Global Illumination (GI) and forward+ rendering out of the box, with support for deferred rendering pipelines. Like O3DE itself, Atom is modular, scriptable, and data-driven. We even wrote an entirely new shading language, known as AZSL.

        Oh, right. Realistic rendering on multiple platforms. A lot of love for those architects (yeeeah. Incidentally, game developers might benefit too, but that's secondary, the linux foundation says so)

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    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday July 07 2021, @02:58AM (4 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 07 2021, @02:58AM (#1153552) Journal

      This certainly won't encourage the creation of quality games for linux, because the problem isn't drivers

      Wrong - it serves no purpose to spend millions in creating content if you end with that gorgeous content unable to hit the display.
      Good quality/performance rendering API are a matter of survival, it's make or break for a game to be released on a platform.
      This is why very few studios and game publisher ended up with games on Linux.

      it's a way to get the millions it takes to make games at the level people expect today.

      For which there are solutions. Crowdfunding [wikipedia.org], govt grants (Cyberpunk 2077, I'm looking at your), venture capital (some $33.6B in 2020 [venturebeat.com]).
      None will work on a platform with crappy rendering capabilities.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @10:51AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @10:51AM (#1153648)
        Remember Loki Games? There simply is no market for linux games.
        • (Score: 4, Interesting) by c0lo on Wednesday July 07 2021, @12:19PM (2 children)

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 07 2021, @12:19PM (#1153663) Journal

          There simply is no market for linux games.

          Wanna bet?

          Games on Linux will come by a strong enough studio/publisher that launches titles on many platforms at once, Linux among them. In other words, granted, "games for Linux" is a losing propositions, but "games incidentally on Linux too" is not (as games incidentally on Stadia too [wikipedia.org] is also not a losing proposition, in spite of an insignificant market share today)

          There's this big IFF, tho': it will happen IFF Linux gets enough support for gaming, from optimized drivers to rendering/sound APIs that are stable and of good quality. For the rest of it, there are (and will be) gaming engines that the studios will use - Open 3D Engine may be among them. And maayybe, just maaaayyybe, this very movement made by Amazon/Linux foundation will make NVIDIA think twice about the support it throws in for Linux (yeah, CUDA's nice, but doesn't do rendering).

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          • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @02:18PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 07 2021, @02:18PM (#1153694)
            Game publishers don't want the hassle of trying to make money on a platform encumbered by the GPL. End of story. Plus that most linux users are cheap, and those who are into gaming already have a Windows box, or can dual boot.
            • (Score: 3, Touché) by c0lo on Wednesday July 07 2021, @02:27PM

              by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 07 2021, @02:27PM (#1153699) Journal

              Game publishers don't want the hassle of trying to make money on a platform encumbered by the GPL. End of story.

              Ummm.... you mean GPLed like the OS kernel that the Android runs on top of?
              Maybe you are right, I've seen no big studios/publishers pushing Android games. But what do I know, I never actually looked.
              Should I look up on Google Play for games from big studios or would you provide a citation for the assertion you made?

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    • (Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Wednesday July 07 2021, @03:02AM

      by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Wednesday July 07 2021, @03:02AM (#1153558) Journal

      Who wants a 3-d Tux Racer?

      You did not played until rided Tux racer on VR.

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