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posted by takyon on Sunday July 25 2021, @10:52AM   Printer-friendly
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The California Department of Fair Employment and Housing has filed suit against gaming giant Activision Blizzard, alleging that they fostered a hostile and sexist work environment for female employees, who comprise about 20% of their workforce. From Bloomberg Law:

Video game giant Activision Blizzard Inc., maker of games including World of Warcraft and Diablo, fosters a "frat boy" culture in which female employees are subjected to constant sexual harassment, unequal pay, and retaliation, according to a lawsuit filed by the California Department of Fair Employment and Housing.

A two-year investigation by the state agency found that the company discriminated against female employees in terms and conditions of employment, including compensation, assignment, promotion, and termination. Company leadership consistently failed to take steps to prevent discrimination, harassment, and retaliation, the agency said.

[...] The agency seeks an injunction forcing compliance with workplace protections, as well as unpaid wages, pay adjustments, back pay, and lost wages and benefits for female employees.

"We value diversity and strive to foster a workplace that offers inclusivity for everyone. There is no place in our company or industry, or any industry, for sexual misconduct or harassment of any kind," a spokesperson for Activision Blizzard said in a statement. "We take every allegation seriously and investigate all claims. In cases related to misconduct, action was taken to address the issue."

[...] "The picture the DFEH paints is not the Blizzard workplace of today," the company said.

Some examples of the allegations include "cube crawls", where male employees would get drunk and harass female employees, delegating heavy workloads to women while paying them less, and even an incident where a female employee committed suicide after nude photos of her were passed around during a company holiday party.

The case is Calif. Dep't of Fair Emp. & Housing v. Activision Blizzard Inc., Cal. Super. Ct., No. 21stcv26571, 7/20/21. Further coverage of the story at The Verge, the BBC, and CNN.


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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:34AM (54 children)

    by fakefuck39 (6620) on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:34AM (#1159743)

    And this ladies and gentlemen, is what you get when a bunch of creepy incels keep getting beat up in school, and society tells them it's the bully that's the problem. Both the bully and the incel are the problem. You have a weir little ugly dude - which is fine. He takes photos of people's girlfriends. He stares them down, looking straight at someone's tits for 5 minutes while licking lips. He sits in class with his hand in his pocket, staring. He gets some black and blue paint on his skin and face and a broken nose from the boyfriend.

    Then the bully gets suspended, rightfully, and the creep goes home, where his mom tells you the bully probably just has issues at home. And the creep watches porn. And more porn. And more porn. And then he enters the workplace where he writes code, gets drunk at the office and passes around nude photos of coworkers, asks out female coworkers and gets angry when they politely decline. And gets the company sued for millions of dollars, and damages their public image.

    Now, the part about the female devs being underpaid, I don't believe for a second. I have not, in my 20 years in the field, met a woman who was equally skilled to the rest of her team - from storage management, to sysadmin, to development. Or one who has put in the same amount of hours or was as productive.

    • (Score: 5, Touché) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Sunday July 25 2021, @01:10PM (21 children)

      by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Sunday July 25 2021, @01:10PM (#1159757)

      So according to your own theory [soylentnews.org] that "the people who scream loudest to you about something are the ones doing it", you yourself were a scrawny pimpled-faced bullied porn-watching underachieving awkward school nerd who developed a deep sense of inadequacy with women later in life.

      Correct?

      I have not, in my 20 years in the field, met a woman who was equally skilled to the rest of her team

      There, fixed that for ya.

      • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @07:21PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @07:21PM (#1159809)

        "I have not, in my 20 years in the field, met a woman"
        Stop projecting your life situation onto the OP.

      • (Score: 1) by rpnx on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:12PM

        by rpnx (13892) on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:12PM (#1159818) Journal

        One person's experiences don't make for a statistically valid argument.

        That's also not a good reason to act like a troll.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:31PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:31PM (#1159857)

        found the incel

      • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:51PM (17 children)

        by fakefuck39 (6620) on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:51PM (#1159860)

        According to your theory, the women in the lawsuit are also incels then? There's a difference about making shit up about the other side, and commenting on facts presented in a big lawsuit. If you're walking and see a drunk driver wobble out of the car after hitting a pole, you can say "that's a drunk driver" without being one yourself.

        Here's another theory. You spent 10 minutes searching old comments for a post of mine you remember. You found it, and you linked it, and you quoted it. To defend a bunch of incels who are getting sued. The theory is, you have autism, as no reasonable person would bother jumping through all those hoops just to defend some incels getting sued. The autism caused you to be rejected by society, and made you the incel that you are.

        >fixed that for ya.
        Thank you for fixing that. Unfortunately your autism is not curable, and cannot be fixed.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @04:50AM (16 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @04:50AM (#1159910)

          Says the pot to the kettle.

          • (Score: 0, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Monday July 26 2021, @07:35AM (15 children)

            by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday July 26 2021, @07:35AM (#1159927)

            the pot says to the kettle: autism is a crippling genetic defect with no cure. it causes the defective humans to be unable to handle basic social situations, resulting in being rejected by society.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @08:43AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @08:43AM (#1159937)

              Yes it does say that too. Almost like a fixation. Makes you think.

              • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Monday July 26 2021, @08:47AM

                by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday July 26 2021, @08:47AM (#1159941)

                I'm not on this site to think - this is not a thinking site. I'm just here to call you autistic, over and over again.

            • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @11:57AM (12 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @11:57AM (#1159977)

              Here he goes, the dickhead. You out of Adderall again or just forgot to take on time?

              • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Monday July 26 2021, @12:10PM (11 children)

                by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday July 26 2021, @12:10PM (#1159985)

                Yes, it's drugs that make people be mean to you. Not that you're an autistic creepy incel. Everyone laughing at you since your teens is probably just on that laughing gas too. No other more obvious explanations here.

                • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @03:56PM (10 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @03:56PM (#1160024)

                  Not that you're an autistic creepy incel.

                  You seem to have very few ideas, yet very persistent ones. Fixations is a better term.
                  Dontcha get bored swirling the same lone thought around your empty skull, dickhead?
                  Mayhap with so few neurons left active you don't even know what boredom is.

                  Now, be a good boy and take that medication the nice doctor prescribed, it'll do ya good.
                  Try not to skip them next time, you only embarrass yourself dickheading around, parading your IQ that fell in range of the size of your shoes.

                  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Monday July 26 2021, @06:21PM (9 children)

                    by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday July 26 2021, @06:21PM (#1160091)

                    >You seem to have very few ideas, yet very persistent ones. Fixations is a better term
                    Picture you're a mcdonalds cashier. I come in sometimes to get a big mac. Here's what you just said: you seem to be fixated on eating big macs.

                    yes sherlock. the only reason I'm talking to you is to tell you that you are an autistic incel. That's not all I talk about anywhere, but it is the only purpose that you have, so all conversations with you specifically, are going to be about how your autism causes you to be an incel. I'd also like to remind you again that your autism is incurable, and you'll have it till the day you die.

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 27 2021, @12:41AM (8 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 27 2021, @12:41AM (#1160230)

                      Picture you're a mcdonalds cashier. I come in sometimes to get a big mac.

                      And you persist in asking for it when invariably I'm answering you "No, Mr Dickhead, sir, this is the hardware store. I couldn't get you tissue if you asked for it, I'd need to substitute it with coarse sandpaper to use after your compulsive intellectual masturbation" or something on those lines.
                      No matter my hints or direct goading, your dickhead can't get out of the "need my fix of exhibitionist coprophilia NOW. And the shit better have the same consistency every time or else I throw a tantrum on top" obsession.

                      That's not all I talk about anywhere

                      That one I could see. Too bad your compulsion is too strong and keeps you having sudden attacks of dickheadness; even sadder it compounds with your ADHD that drives you into forgetting dickheading around is simply bizzare by the normal standards, dickhead.

                      • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Tuesday July 27 2021, @02:54AM (7 children)

                        by fakefuck39 (6620) on Tuesday July 27 2021, @02:54AM (#1160258)

                        >No, Mr Dickhead
                        Ah, what an insult to me, I shall go cry. Do you tell gay people they're gay as an insult too? I am absolutely a dickhead, to you, because I only reply to you to be a dickhead, to you - it's enjoyable. Now, your autism on the other hand, is not namecalling. It's a crippling disease that prevents you from functioning in a normal society, have enjoyable human contact, and living an normal happy life. And there is no way out. There's nothing you can do.

                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 27 2021, @04:47AM (6 children)

                          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 27 2021, @04:47AM (#1160285)

                          Ah, what an insult to me, I shall go cry

                          Don't take it the wrong way, dickhead, it's just the normal appellation that fits your case.

                          I am absolutely a dickhead, to you, because I only reply to you to be a dickhead, to you - it's enjoyable.

                          Are you using "to you" as a weird punctuation sign, dickhead? Because you aren't making too much sense with this one.

                          Now, your autism on the other hand, is not namecalling. It's a crippling disease that prevents you from functioning in a normal society

                          I function quite well in the normal society and I'm not autistic. Your recurring maniacal episodes are playing tricks on you again - if you say you take the prescribed medication on time, maybe go recheck it again, it definitely fails you.

                          • (Score: 1, Redundant) by fakefuck39 on Tuesday July 27 2021, @05:38AM (5 children)

                            by fakefuck39 (6620) on Tuesday July 27 2021, @05:38AM (#1160291)

                            >you aren't making too much sense
                            many things don't make sense, to you. but to you, they don't need to. I'm not here to make sense to you. I'm just here to remind you that there is no cure for your disease, and that your brain tissue is physically defective.

                            >re you using "to you"
                            >ng in a n
                            >in, it definitely fails you.
                            Reply to This
                            yes, but have you considered that autism is a debilitating disease that has caused you to become one of society's rejects, and that it has no cure?

                            • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 27 2021, @12:56PM (4 children)

                              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 27 2021, @12:56PM (#1160336)

                              Seems like you're having a meltdown, dickhead.
                              <Your sole neuron overheated and your fixations are now compounded with neuromotor troubles, you can't even manage a citation.
                              <Take care of youself, dickhead, nobody else will do it. I certainly don't care enough about dejects as yourself.

                              • (Score: 1, Redundant) by fakefuck39 on Tuesday July 27 2021, @01:09PM (3 children)

                                by fakefuck39 (6620) on Tuesday July 27 2021, @01:09PM (#1160338)

                                >ms like you're havin
                                >en manage a ci
                                >ertainly don't care e
                                yes, but have you considered that autism is an incurable disease, meaning you will have it the rest of your life?

                                • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 28 2021, @01:10AM (2 children)

                                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 28 2021, @01:10AM (#1160523)

                                  No, it would be pointless, dickhead. Your delusional fixation is waste enough.

                                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 28 2021, @01:40AM

                                    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 28 2021, @01:40AM (#1160532)

                                    you seem stressed and confused. have sex with a rubber doll and report back to us uggo. release some of that anger into the asian rubber doll of your slim pickins.

                                  • (Score: 1, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Wednesday July 28 2021, @12:39PM

                                    by fakefuck39 (6620) on Wednesday July 28 2021, @12:39PM (#1160617)

                                    egh, that script was not worth debugging. but I hope you enjoyed talking to korn shell as much as you enjoy your porn. anywise, I do want to know what it's like being an incel. does your dick ever fall off from overactive masturbation? have you ever had to go to the ER?

    • (Score: 2, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Sunday July 25 2021, @03:29PM (9 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday July 25 2021, @03:29PM (#1159771) Journal

      I have not, in my 20 years in the field, met a woman who was equally skilled

      You've heard that beauty is in the eye of the beholder? I suspect that maybe applies to your ability to evaluate the skills of your coworkers. Your claim would be more believable if you had limited the claim to skills and professions where upper body strength is actually important.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @04:04PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @04:04PM (#1159776)

        Your claim would be more believable if you had limited the claim to skills and professions where upper body strength is actually important.

        Not really. [cnbc.com]

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @07:48PM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @07:48PM (#1159811)

        OK, so what jobs are there that don't require 'upper body strength' where women consistently excel over men, or even function at a level that is on par with men?
        There are rare instances where a woman in the workplace does excellent work at or ever better than her male peers, but those occurrences are rare.

        Guys like you are those sad white-knight cucks that still defend Elizabeth Holmes on social media, blindly believe her when she says "I'm innocent", and think that all fraud charges should be dropped against her, for no reason other than "she's-just-a-woman!"

        • (Score: 5, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:12PM (4 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:12PM (#1159817) Journal

          How about you start with traditional "women's work". Nursing, secretarial, cooking/chef jobs just for starters. Small business management doesn't seem to succeed or fail based on gender. Realtors. Customer facing service industries. It appears that more and more women are succeeding as lawyers - and cops. There are even women judges, just look at the Supreme Court. The entertainment industry is filled with actresses, singers, comediennes, and whatever else you care to name. Women have excelled in mathematics for over a hundred years now, the best examples are the Enigma project and NASA using women to do their math.

          I have to agree with another poster above: if you've never met a woman who can do some job better than you can, then you simply haven't met women.

          If - let me stress that IF - you are a leading name in some field, you might get away with saying that no woman is better at your job than you are. I don't see any women outperforming Elon Musk at putting shit into space, for example. But, if you can make such a claim, then you'll have to admit that, like Elon Musk, you are one unique asshole.

          Guys like you are those sad white-knight cucks

          On the contrary. People like you who can't meet women as equals have surely been cuckolded, again and again.

          • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:37PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:37PM (#1159858)

            I don't see any women outperforming Elon Musk at putting shit into space, for example.

            Gwynne Shotwell [wikipedia.org] is doing much of the work for Musk.

            • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @01:22AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @01:22AM (#1159873)

              Yeah, well, she's from Illinois. I don't think they have women in Illinois.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @12:00PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @12:00PM (#1159979)

                They have. And they are all bearded.

          • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @04:10AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @04:10AM (#1159903)

            Elon Musk at putting shit into space

            You just made me picture Elon bending over and projectile-pooping a big load into orbit with one single superhuman grunt. Thanks.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @03:16AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @03:16AM (#1159898)

          You sound like a fake fuck incel to me.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by fakefuck39 on Monday July 26 2021, @12:13AM

        by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday July 26 2021, @12:13AM (#1159866)

        >beauty is in the eye of the beholder
        while level of technical skill and hours worked is not. there is a chance I can't evaluate skills well. there is a bigger chance that I usually work with some of the top level people in the field, and there are less women in the field. when you get the top 10% of 100 men, and the top 10% of 10 women, you end up with the woman in your top-tier team being below average for the team, because you have 10 men, and one woman, who are all above the minimum threshold to make that team.

        And this applies to college as well. When you got a few guys reading raw hex from a piece of paper and knowing that the binary does, and most girls fumbling with the concept of asm templates, your average skill level for the women is less, given a certain minimum cutoff. On average for the whole group, it's probably the same.

    • (Score: 5, Touché) by Tork on Sunday July 25 2021, @04:17PM (4 children)

      by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Sunday July 25 2021, @04:17PM (#1159779)

      Now, the part about the female devs being underpaid, I don't believe for a second. I have not, in my 20 years in the field, met a woman who was equally skilled to the rest of her team - from storage management, to sysadmin, to development. Or one who has put in the same amount of hours or was as productive.

      Sounds to me like somebody is having a little trouble on the dating scene. ;)

      --
      🏳️‍🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️‍🌈
      • (Score: 2, Redundant) by fakefuck39 on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:53PM (3 children)

        by fakefuck39 (6620) on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:53PM (#1159862)

        Lots of trouble. My wife doesn't support me dating people.

        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @05:37AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @05:37AM (#1159914)

          At least she lets you watch on date night.

          • (Score: 0, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Monday July 26 2021, @07:02AM

            by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday July 26 2021, @07:02AM (#1159925)

            it's funny how everything you read or see immediately becomes about the weird porn you watch. especially funny in an article about incels getting sued. no normal marriage has 'date night.' struggling redneck marriages do, as suggested by their couple's therapist. now i guess time for you to tell us about therapy threesomes or some tranny porn, m'lady.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 28 2021, @07:52AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 28 2021, @07:52AM (#1160599)

            At least she lets you watch on date night.

            Come on ... That is blatantly untrue.
            On those nights the GP poster is off babysitting his wife's son.
            The frequent posts are only possible when his wife's boyfriend gives him permission to use the computer after earning those good boy points.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:44PM (10 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:44PM (#1159829)

      every time I read one of your comments from now on I'm going to remember your post last week "SN isn't for conversations, it's for calling other posters names and insulting them"

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @05:58AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @05:58AM (#1159918)

        They've been saying that since day one. Why anyone believes or interacts with a self-confessed troll in any capacity beyond trolling back is beyond me.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @11:22PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @11:22PM (#1160204)

          That's a good point. If we ignore the fake fucker's constant shitposts and obvious attempts at trolling, he'll be gone soon. The only reason he hangs around is that he gets reactions out of people here, which gives him some meaning to his otherwise pointless and empty life.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 27 2021, @04:40AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 27 2021, @04:40AM (#1160282)

            Either way it will flame out. The behavior is accelerating because they cannot get the same rush. That isn't sustainable in the slightest but I hope it will be fun to watch.

      • (Score: 0, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Monday July 26 2021, @07:44AM (6 children)

        by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday July 26 2021, @07:44AM (#1159928)

        I post that almost daily. what's your point retard? this site, as of a couple of years ago, has declined and become only useful for shitting on things. i'm here to shit on bad articles, stupid authors, and the autistic or the redneck users like yourself. if you're here to discuss intriguing points, I'm guessing you also order steak at mcdonalds.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @04:13PM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @04:13PM (#1160035)

          because god forbid you try to contribute to pulling us out of the spiral

          you're part of the problem

          • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Monday July 26 2021, @06:26PM (4 children)

            by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday July 26 2021, @06:26PM (#1160096)

            Do you remember voat? Everyone normal jumped ship there from reddit. Then it turned into a redneck neonazi antivaxx retard-forum. Then I started using the site to make fun of them.

            Everyone normal left this site within the last 2 years. The only people left here are autistic incels, drunken anti-jew rednecks, and all kinds of morons.

            I'm not part of the problem. You're the one who came to a bathroom and are complaining it's not a kitchen. I post informative things, usually with references. Then 2 autists reply with 50 comments from their 20 accounts. Why would I ignore that and pass up the opportunity to shit all over them? They're literally asking for it.

            >pulling us out of the spiral
            there is no spiral. there's only the toilet. the only people left on this site are clowns for entertainment. everyone started having actual interesting discussions on other sites two years ago.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @10:14PM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @10:14PM (#1160182)

              You most certainly are part of the problem, you're simply not the worst.

              • (Score: 0, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Tuesday July 27 2021, @12:24AM (2 children)

                by fakefuck39 (6620) on Tuesday July 27 2021, @12:24AM (#1160221)

                I understand you see it that way. Because you are the autist I'm here to shit on, you don't like that. The issue with your logic is, you keep replying to my posts with autistic dork shit, so you are the one starting it. I always start the flamewar with an on-topic informative post. This usually devolves into the enjoyable 20-long thread of me shitting on you and the second guy here like you. If you swing at someone and get your nose broken in response, don't complain that the environment is unfriendly, just because you're the one with the broken nose.

                • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 27 2021, @02:24PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 27 2021, @02:24PM (#1160355)

                  The issue with your logic is, you keep replying to my posts with autistic dork shit, so you are the one starting it.

                  love how you're assuming all these posts are by the same AC

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 27 2021, @02:56PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 27 2021, @02:56PM (#1160367)

                    there are definitely two of you for these hundreds of daily posts, sometimes talking to each other and yourselves. maybe three of you, but doubtful. but there is only one disease, which has no cure.

    • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @09:34PM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @09:34PM (#1159838)

      What a bunch of MRA tropes and shit.

      First of all, bullies provide a valuable social service when they enlist in the army of the bourgeoisie. At home they keep rando proles and homeless bums from kekekekekeke zerg rushing my penthouse in the city and stealing all my dude weed lmao. Dude weed lmao is now a bourgeois drug, so our efforts can be better focused on eliminating prole drugs like opioids and especially intersectional drugs like crack, since Black men are still the worst rapists out there amirite. Internationally bullies protect the opium trade in Afghanistan so we can make prole drugs, and also oil so we can make more throw-away plastic shit.

      In tech though I just haven't seen it. You can even be a dick girl and work in tech. All the best programmers are dick girls. Seriously. All assigned male at birth and living as female. You spot a really good but apparently cismale programmer? Check again in 10 years after they've hatched. So one factor could be feminists being butthurt about trans women constantly destroying their gender dichotomy theories simply by existing.

      And of course it is in the identity-political interests of both feminists and MRAs to reject these programmers as being essentially female. After all, they haven't given live birth with only a midwife's assistance! You can't be a real woman until you do that. Neither the MRAs nor feminists are interested in questioning gender dichotomy.

      There is the 20% wage gap, which is flat out feminist propaganda. It's nearly an instance of the Big Lie in feminist fascist style, but it is after all backed up by one easy and wrong (for the purpose of singling out a profession) way of looking at the data. You can't compare the incomes of women who make lifestyle choices like housewife to liberated women for starters. The real wage gap in tech is about 3%. In fact, in a lot of fields it's around 3-5%, so tech is even better than average in that regard. What floors me though is how MRAs just assume that the 20% number is legit, because that's how MRAs want it to be. MRAs are regressive, not in any way progressive. This entire line of argument in the misogynerd narrative is mendacious on both sides and not supported by the facts.

      But this brings us to the incels, which we presume all good programmers assigned male are. I mean, what would you have to do to prove that you're not an incel? Obviously having sex with other people is not enough. Men and dick girls don't count. The other person must have a regular menstrual cycle. We know that for sure. I'm going to speculate that the other person just having had 1 menstrual cycle is not good enough here. Probably they need oversized udders too (mooo cows moo!!!) and they must be skilled in the preparation of sammiches. Why the fuck is feminism pushing something like this? Even if there is an incel problem, wouldn't it, you know, instead actually reduce rape by rejecting sex-negative approaches to prostitution and "rape culture" and instead taking a sex-positive approach of fully legalizing and regulating prostitution and rejecting the antidemocratic nature of "rape culture?" I keep finding out interesting things like how rape culture sabotages the gathering of rape kits so that no individual rapists can be held accountable for the crime and instead the only recourse for ("real" female) rape victims is to demand collective guilt and punishment. The source I found claimed this started in the 90s with Christian organizations like the YWCA with a religious interest in continuing patriarchy and covering up sexual assault. Why does feminism fucking fail by circling the wagons around these clowns? The idealist conceptions are dynamite on paper especially if you were a fan of the rhetorical style of Mein Kampf but just not that particular style of bigotry, but it just all fails to deliver in terms of reduction in rape.

      Shirley my conservative arts education must be causing me to miss something obvious. Throw statistics at me. Call me an incel and I'll assume I'm right. My Nevada trip should happen soon. Let me know if there are weight maximums or cup-size minimums I will need to observe in order to cure my incel status. Knowing me, I'll probably jive with somebody who's too masculine or too tall or some shit, she won't count, and I'll still be an incel according to feminism.

      Also note how MRAs don't have a problem with the incel narrative either. That should be a big clue.

      • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Monday July 26 2021, @08:20AM (4 children)

        by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday July 26 2021, @08:20AM (#1159931)

        the reason you are an incel, is you mostly have to pay for sex, and mra means something to you besides marketing research association.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @09:03AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @09:03AM (#1159947)

          Poor little fakefuck, can't even afford a realfuck :(

          • (Score: 2, Touché) by fakefuck39 on Monday July 26 2021, @09:18AM

            by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday July 26 2021, @09:18AM (#1159954)

            Again we have an example of how spending half the day watching porn actually damages the brain and makes someone unable to live in a society. "realfuck" - I'm 100% sure you have sex with rubber dolls.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @11:43AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @11:43AM (#1159975)

          lolol, same argument as any other feminist. As I noted, sex I've had with men and eggy dick girls doesn't count. Only sex with a Real Wombyn counts. I'm not going to con somebody I'm not attracted to into a relationship, so it makes sense to pay for sex. Who knows. Maybe Real Wombyns really do have magick vaginas that can turn me into a lesbian!

          The more the incel thing drags on, the more apparent it becomes that "incel" is the new "faggot."

          You don't care about women's liberation one damned bit. What you care about is conformance to gender dichotomy and cisheteronormativity. Feminism is just another right-wing hate group to enforce these things.

          • (Score: 1, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Monday July 26 2021, @11:59AM

            by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday July 26 2021, @11:59AM (#1159978)

            incel, feminist, faggot, retard - i'm here to call you all of those things, because they all fall under the umbrella of 'my personal clown.' the only reason i reply to a few ac comments is because i feel like calling someone some namrs. the only reason i reply to an article is to shit on its subject matter, its author, or its poster. this is the toilet, you're floating in the bowl complaining about shit falling in your head.

            feminism is not a hate group, it's a bunch of home-depot-looking ugly fat women, sour about being ugly rejects. exactly like the group you're in - the autistic incels. both are in the circus, which only exists to entertain me personally.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:43AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:43AM (#1159744)

    Women look to Daddy Government to ride in on a white horse and save them like a damsel in distress. Men who face a rough work environment (white, sexually normal men, that is) do not get that benefit. Instead, they are expected to sacrifice themselves TO Daddy Government's wishes of "equity."

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @12:04PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @12:04PM (#1159750)

      Same author as parent post here.

      Before anyone gives me crap about being some sort of crybaby, let me state that I don't give a crap about ANYBODY working at Activision Blizzard. It's a game company, and they are famous for being unprofessional shit holes to work in. Anyone who signs up gets no sympathy from me. Get a real job.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @10:53PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @10:53PM (#1159851)

      What do you mean by sexually normal men? Men like Elliot Page?

  • (Score: 2) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Sunday July 25 2021, @12:36PM (1 child)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Sunday July 25 2021, @12:36PM (#1159754)

    The Churchill speech in CoD: WW2 that says "We shall fight them on the bitches"... I mean, that can't be a coincidence.

    • (Score: 1, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Monday July 26 2021, @12:17AM

      by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday July 26 2021, @12:17AM (#1159867)

      The Incel on an article about incels getting sued for acting like incels: "here, let me quote some videogame dialog." I mean, that can't be a coincidence.

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by looorg on Sunday July 25 2021, @02:37PM (6 children)

    by looorg (578) on Sunday July 25 2021, @02:37PM (#1159765)

    I blame Jaina, Sylvanas or Tyrande (and other heroines) for being so scantly clad (even tho they all had their armor graphics upgraded during the last few years as I recall it). They are clearly luring and tempting the (frat-) boys to act out. After all nothing is better for a fantasy heroine then to have bikini sized armor while out fighting the forces of good/evil. Revealing flesh is like undead/monster repellent. All while the male heroes are wearing tank like armor with pauldrons so large they are clearly compensating for something.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @03:54PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @03:54PM (#1159774)

      Less armor = more dexterity

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @07:58PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @07:58PM (#1159812)

        Poor women have to dress to please men. They have to, you see?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:14PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:14PM (#1159819)

          But, of course! That is how poor women become rich women!!

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:41PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:41PM (#1159825)

      some moderator here clearly doesn't have a sense of humor

      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:05PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:05PM (#1159852)

        Of course not. Feminists don't have humor. They have inverted patriarchy and women's honor to defend.

        • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:28PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:28PM (#1159855)

          They do have yo momma jokes tho.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Beryllium Sphere (r) on Sunday July 25 2021, @05:38PM (5 children)

    by Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) on Sunday July 25 2021, @05:38PM (#1159793)

    In their glory days, the founders insisted on open doors and fair treatment for women in the company.

    The word got out. They had their pick of the best women coming out of engineering schools and other companies.

    • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @07:00PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @07:00PM (#1159807)

      In their glory days, the founders insisted on open doors and fair treatment for women in the company.

      And boy, did that go and hit the company hard.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina [wikipedia.org]

      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Magic Oddball on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:42PM (2 children)

        by Magic Oddball (3847) on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:42PM (#1159828) Journal

        It's funny how a bad CEO who happens to be a woman is held up as a negative example of female CEOs for decades after she leaves, yet a bad male CEO is just shrugged off as a bad CEO and quickly forgotten.

        • (Score: 2) by istartedi on Sunday July 25 2021, @10:10PM (1 child)

          by istartedi (123) on Sunday July 25 2021, @10:10PM (#1159847) Journal

          Aside from that, Carly couldn't do it by herself without the board's permission. The destruction of the "HP way" was just part of the larger picture of short-sighted hitting of quarterly numbers without regard to the larger picture. Not that she's blameless; but Wall Street wants Carly types and it gets them.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @10:33AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @10:33AM (#1159966)

            I always compare that to Berkshire Hathaway. They fawn over that company and its subsidiaries. But whenever they ask the CEO what his key to success is, he always points back to the ideas of thinking long-term and not falling for hype. And yet, time and time again, Wall Street and big business does exactly that and then wonder why they cannot duplicate his results.

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Beryllium Sphere (r) on Sunday July 25 2021, @10:08PM

        by Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) on Sunday July 25 2021, @10:08PM (#1159846)

        Putting an MBA in marketing in charge of an engineering company may have been the mistake there.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:04PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:04PM (#1159814)

    i don't like people who use their position to harass other people, but these women really should be at home having kids and taking care of the house. We've got plenty of Suited Whores in business already without women joining the fold.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:42PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:42PM (#1159827)

    The game companies have long been known as a terrible working environment, dolled up under some pretence of being cool. You can work here in hotpants and flipflops with your Yuki-chan bodypillow next to you while pounding Rockstars and Monsters - as long as you do it for 100 hours a week. We started crunch time a week after starting the game, and we'll stop crunch time when we ship and lay ninety percent of you losers off.

    Remember the EA widow? Google does.

    If they'd actually bothered to do all the other things that typical companies do, they'd not have had this problem (or not nearly the same magnitude) but instead they've believed their own lies on the same level as a too-cool-for-school motorcycle racing team, except that the people on the bikes and the mechanics working on the bikes have to be world-class at what they do - or someone dies, messily, on the track, before a crowd of thousands (and a TV audience of millions).

    Now, in the age of #metoo and #BLM and all the lefty bumperstickers that surround the world of Blizzard and Activision and the rest of them, they couldn't actually pull their shit together long enough to either hire stable professionals, or flog the proles into compliance - probably because their bosses believed the same lies. It doesn't help that they spend a lot of time steeped in the culture of places like Japan and South Korea, that have very different cultural views on sexes.

    And they're getting it. Good and hard. And that grease on the strap-on is hotsauce, not lube.

    And they did it to themselves.

    I'll pencil in some time to pretend to be sympathetic. How's Q3 of 2054 for y'all?

    The stupidest part of all this is that in our modern age of reflexive neo-victorianism and political demands from hypersensitive dictators, they could find time to add some pixels hiding the lovingly-modeled nipple bumps in the brarmour of the combabes, and have them declare their admiration of the thousands of years of continuity of China (if you ignore repeated invasions, coups and other realignments of the mandate of heaven), but they couldn't actually change their old leopard-spots, though anyone with a working internet connection and a memory longer than a mayfly could have predicted the outcome. If I were a shareholder I'd be hopping mad, but mostly at myself for buying into such a craptastic void of stupidity.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @12:06PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @12:06PM (#1159981)

      Yes, the companies never change, or if they do they always turn worse. Actually, IBM are still cooperating with the Nazis, no?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @04:19PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @04:19PM (#1160037)

        Here, have a *whoooosh*.

        Companies can change. These companies didn't, despite all the legal, cultural, environmental warnings that they really, urgently needed to change.

        They're reaping the rewards of their own inaction.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by hendrikboom on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:55PM (4 children)

    by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Sunday July 25 2021, @08:55PM (#1159831) Homepage Journal

    I have not, in my 20 years in the field, met a woman who was equally skilled to the rest of her team

    As I posted on this site years ago, the statistics of women studying technical (STEM) fields are as follows?

    * On the average, women do slightly better than men
    * However, men show a much larger variance than women.

    So if you look for the best workers, you are likely to find men.

    And if you look for the worst workers, you are also likely to find men.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @10:48PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @10:48PM (#1159850)

      In STEM the people who are looking can't tell the difference between good ones and bad ones. So they end up with the best bullshitters.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @04:56AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @04:56AM (#1159911)

        Don't forget being bamboozled by all the colorful bike sheds.

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @10:03AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @10:03AM (#1159962)

        In STEM the people who are looking can't tell the difference between good ones and bad ones

        You know what would help with that? A decent Liberal Arts education! Perhaps a little rhetoric? Logic? Literature?

        ...aristarchus

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @02:23PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @02:23PM (#1159998)

      This is true of just about everything, that men have greater variance and tend to dominate both tails. Genetics mean this should not come as a surprise, given the differences between X and Y chromosomes.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Beryllium Sphere (r) on Sunday July 25 2021, @09:53PM (1 child)

    by Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) on Sunday July 25 2021, @09:53PM (#1159841)

    One of life's great pleasures is working with smart competent people.

    I've had more of those to work with because the companies I worked for discouraged harassment. That includes one of the half-dozen most intelligent people I have met in my life.

    I also believe in right and wrong, but pure selfishness is enough to lead to wanting a fair employment environment.

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:31PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:31PM (#1159856)

      > One of life's great pleasures is working with smart competent people and fucking them over

      FTFY

  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by darkfeline on Monday July 26 2021, @08:48AM (2 children)

    by darkfeline (1030) on Monday July 26 2021, @08:48AM (#1159943) Homepage

    Certainly if the allegations are true, then they should win the suit.

    But California just barely stopped a proposition to legalize discrimination based on protected classes in government institutions. One wonders which flavor of justice is at play here.

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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @09:05AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @09:05AM (#1159948)

      Obviously better justice than served in many of the 49 sister states. Better luck next time whorecat.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 28 2021, @08:02AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 28 2021, @08:02AM (#1160601)

      But California just barely stopped a proposition to legalize discrimination based on protected classes in government institutions.

      Don't you see? The double standards are necessary because judging people by the content of their character is not producing the desired results.

      The only solution is to go back to judging people by the color of their skin, but in the opposite direction this time. As part of the reparations.

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