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posted by martyb on Monday October 11, @05:07PM   Printer-friendly [Skip to comment(s)]
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Key witness in Assange case jailed in Iceland after admitting to lies and ongoing crime spree

Sigurdur Thordarson, a key witness for the FBI against Julian Assange, has been jailed in Iceland. The notorious alleged hacker and convicted pedophile was remanded to custody in Iceland's highest security prison, Litla Hraun, on September 24. Þórðarson´s lawyer, Húnbogi J. Andersen, confirms that he is in custody. Thordarson was given immunity by the FBI in exchange for testimony against Julian Assange.

Thordarson was arrested the same day he arrived back in Iceland from a trip to Spain, and was subsequently brought before a judge after police requested indefinite detention intended to halt an ongoing crime spree. The judge apparently agreed that Thordarson's repeated, blatant and ongoing offences against the law put him at high risk for continued re-offending.

[...] Thordarson is a key witness for the United States Justice Department according to documents presented to a UK court in an effort to secure the extradition of Julian Assange. He was recruited by US authorities to build a case against Assange after misleading them to believe he was previously a close associate of his. In a recent interview with Stundin he admitted to fabricating statements to implicate Assange and contradicted what he was quoted as saying in US court documents. In fact he had volunteered on a limited basis to raise money for Wikileaks in 2010 but was found to have used that opportunity to embezzle more than $50,000 from the organization. Julian Assange was visiting Thordarson's home country of Iceland around this time due to his work with Icelandic media and members of parliament in preparing the Icelandic Modern Media Initiative, a press freedom project that produced a parliamentary resolution supporting whistleblowers and investigative journalism.


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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @05:11PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @05:11PM (#1186204)

    Funny how all people connected with shady conspiracies turn out to be bonkers, dead or a pedophile. Must be something in the water.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @05:12PM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @05:12PM (#1186205)

    ...is given given immunity by the FBI in exchange for testimony against a man who exposed the dirty secrets of elected officials in the US (and elsewhere).

    FBI... how low can you go?

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by EJ on Monday October 11, @05:28PM

      by EJ (2452) on Monday October 11, @05:28PM (#1186211)

      Don't ask questions you don't want to know the answer to.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @05:44PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @05:44PM (#1186213)

      They could catch fake terrorists to show they are doing a great job.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @06:48PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @06:48PM (#1186242)

      The FBI is the domestic wing of the CIA, which is controlled by the Jews. The same people who control BLM and Antifa.

      https://national-justice.com/ [national-justice.com]

      • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @07:43PM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @07:43PM (#1186261)

        You have it completely backwards. The CIA was founded by literal Nazis (your people), who were spirited away from serving justice by the US:
        https://ips-dc.org/the_cias_worst-kept_secret_newly_declassified_files_confirm_united_states_collaboration_with_nazis/ [ips-dc.org]

        The FBI used Nazis too:
        https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/27/us/in-cold-war-us-spy-agencies-used-1000-nazis.html [nytimes.com]

        From what has been made public of their activities, the FBI and CIA appear to share much of the ideology of nazi/fascist/alt-right/conservative*/kkk/christian identity/whatever Nazis are re-branding themselves as, at the moment.

        E.g.,
        MKULTRA - horrific human experimentation that would make any Nazi proud
        COINTELPRO - far-right white supremacist (Nazi-esq) operation against civil rights
        And, the too numerous to list, campaigns of torture, assassination, terror, etc.

        * Real conservatives are not these people, but Nazis have co-opted the term.

        • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @09:25PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @09:25PM (#1186291)

          Jesus fuck, you are stupid. That's how spying works. Your intelligence officers recruit the enemy as agents.

          Also, Wild Bill Donovan would probably shoot you in the face for calling him a Nazi. Take your 1984 revisionism elsewhere.

          • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @09:40PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @09:40PM (#1186294)

            "Wild Bill Donovan" would have been sent to the gallows if there was rule of law in the US.

            Your comment is a good example of what Upton Sinclair was referring to with, "wrapped in a flag".

            “When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross”

            • (Score: 1, Troll) by stormreaver on Tuesday October 12, @12:01PM (1 child)

              by stormreaver (5101) on Tuesday October 12, @12:01PM (#1186387)

              When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross

              Or masquerading as health care.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12, @04:25PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12, @04:25PM (#1186451)

                As your nic makes clear you are a stupid loser.

        • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12, @05:51PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12, @05:51PM (#1186471)

          Nope. The OSS and thus the CIA was full of Jews. Remember the "lamp shades made of Jew skin" psyop? Do you think it's a coincidence Biden, the race traitor, was made president through election fraud while he mobilizes the FBI to hunt out "the #1 threat of white supremacy" while appointing nearly all Jews to cabinet positions, while NGOs (non-gentile organizations) bring in millions of hostile non-whites and teach them in our own schools (bolshevik babysitters) that whitey is inherently evil? The USA has been increasingly owned by the Jews since at least 1913. This is why we stupidly killed our racial brothers in WW1 and WW2, went to Vietnam (uss liberty? Kennedy assassination?) and have since been busy destabilizing the middle east for the Greater Israel project, and allowing the NGOs to ship those refugees into Europe, while White race traitors get rich?

          As far as the FBI and civil rights. No non-whites should be in America. America is a nation founded by whites, for whites. The fact that they are still here is further evidence we have a parasitic infection. It starts from birth when brainwashed white parents let their newborn boys have their genitals mutilated, and later in childhood, when white children are taught the JEW psyop of Christianity. We have to break the spell and rid white nations of the Jew. The international Jew will undoubtedly start WW3 over any white nation trying to expel the parasite like they did in WW2, but it has to be done.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12, @12:53AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12, @12:53AM (#1186332)

      Giving people immunity in exchange for testimony may lead to false testimony just to get immunity. Then the government can claim they got the perpetrator.

    • (Score: 5, Touché) by FatPhil on Tuesday October 12, @03:35PM

      > FBI... how low can you go?

      How long have you got? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FBI_controversies
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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @05:56PM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @05:56PM (#1186217)

    If Mr. Assange is a citizen of Australia. That puts some responsibility on them to support him.

    At some point in this circus, Australia should say enough is enough.
    If not after this, then at what point do they start asking meaningful questions about due process for their citizen?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @06:27PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @06:27PM (#1186230)

      You think they want him back?

      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday October 11, @06:31PM (3 children)

        by Freeman (732) on Monday October 11, @06:31PM (#1186235) Journal

        That was my initial response, but apparently some do. Either that or they finally woke up enough to go, uh, hey, that's our citizen you have there.
        https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/sep/29/australia-reveals-it-raised-case-of-julian-assange-with-us-amid-kidnap-plot-claim [theguardian.com]

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        • (Score: 5, Informative) by Mykl on Monday October 11, @10:14PM (2 children)

          by Mykl (1112) on Monday October 11, @10:14PM (#1186300)

          It's still taking a while for his case to be taken seriously by our government, because the Prime Minister at the time of the Chelsea Manning leak (John Howard) was furiously rolling onto his back in front of Bush Jr in an attempt to have his belly rubbed.

          The Government at the time (Liberal/National Coalition) did everything they could to distance themselves from Assange and basically said to the US: "Do whatever you want". Public sentiment began to become much more sympathetic to Assange as more information came to light, and I think it was a factor that helped lead to the Lib/Nat defeat in 2007. Despite that, the new Labor Government didn't seem to care much more about Assange either.

          Most Australians would like to see Assange freed, and there's finally enough recognition at the Government level that Assange's 1-way pre-booked ticket to Gitmo is not going to go well with the voters in Aus. I think the US believes the diplomatic fallout of stringing Assange up is manageable however, and so will ignore Australia's current representations.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12, @05:15AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12, @05:15AM (#1186355)

            Yup, even if our government got behind it - I doubt the US will care much. We're desperate and the US knows it as well - with Chinese White Elephant finally being called out (kudos to Scomo - don't like him much but at least he didn't turn like Kevin Rudd and called the South China Sea Bully for what it is), we need allies to meet that threat and the only option is the US and the US knows this too. So Assange is screwed in terms "effective" of help from his own government.

          • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday October 12, @03:38PM

            Yeah, but think of the subs. Even one sub's better than a tormented lothario.
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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Freeman on Monday October 11, @06:29PM

      by Freeman (732) on Monday October 11, @06:29PM (#1186233) Journal

      https://nypost.com/2021/01/05/julian-assange-can-return-home-to-australia-if-us-appeal-fails/ [nypost.com]

      So, uh, did that fail?

      https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/aug/11/julian-assange-loses-court-battle-stop-us-expanding-extradition-appeal [theguardian.com]

      Nope, still ongoing, I guess?

      Seriously though, how safe would he be in Australia or possibly more importantly, en route to Australia.

      https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2020/11/28/julian-assange-wikileaks-australia/ [thenewdaily.com.au]

      Blame the media?

      https://consortiumnews.com/2021/06/30/australian-mps-to-biden-free-julian-assange/ [consortiumnews.com]

      Better late than never?

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    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @06:51PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @06:51PM (#1186243)

      White/western nations are not controlled by their citizens. The International Jew is in control. Time to wake up Whitey. It's getting very late.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @09:41PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, @09:41PM (#1186295)

      I think you might be missing how far up the USA's arse the current Aussie administration is....

      • (Score: 1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12, @05:19AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12, @05:19AM (#1186357)

        I don't think we have a choice - we are either the US's beotch or China's.

        I know which I prefer. We just aren't strong enough yet to stand on our own against China.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aim on Tuesday October 12, @11:48AM

      by aim (6322) on Tuesday October 12, @11:48AM (#1186382)

      Do you think the australian government would want to risk their shiny new AUKUS deal for nuclear submarines? I doubt the French would accept any kind of new deal after having been stabbed in the back, other potential contractors will probably also think twice at least.

  • (Score: 2) by Beryllium Sphere (r) on Monday October 11, @06:28PM (11 children)

    by Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) on Monday October 11, @06:28PM (#1186231)

    >Thordarson is a key witness

    If you ever deal with Icelanders, they're used to everything foreigners do, but it's more natural in their culture to use the first name. The patronymic is just there to be a disambiguation if I understand right.

    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday October 11, @06:36PM (10 children)

      by Freeman (732) on Monday October 11, @06:36PM (#1186238) Journal

      In the USA, business / formal / honorific is Mr./Dr. and Surname, whereas casual / friendly is Forename.

      Casua/Friendly
      Hey Bob, nice to see you!

      Business/Formal/Honorific
      Good to see you Mr. Anderson.

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      • (Score: 4, Funny) by mhajicek on Monday October 11, @08:03PM (8 children)

        by mhajicek (51) on Monday October 11, @08:03PM (#1186269)

        "You hear that Mr. Anderson?... That is the sound of inevitability... It is the sound of your death... Good bye, Mr. Anderson."

        • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday October 11, @09:12PM (7 children)

          by Freeman (732) on Monday October 11, @09:12PM (#1186287) Journal

          Yes, I watch movies too and Matrix 4 is coming out. Maybe, they'll undo the magical non-science fiction stuff they did in #3. Then again, maybe they'll just Deus-Ex Machina that bad boy with nanites or something similar.

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          • (Score: 4, Funny) by Mykl on Monday October 11, @10:17PM (1 child)

            by Mykl (1112) on Monday October 11, @10:17PM (#1186301)

            Nah - it will be his Midichlorian count.

          • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday October 12, @05:50PM (4 children)

            This may contain spoilers, maybe even the name of the vid is a spoiler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqrhWGLUkZ4
            I've seen that, just out of a vague curiosity, and it was packed full of stuff, but because I've not seen 2 and 3, much of it was completely meaningless. I was working on the principle that I'd not see 4 anyway, so spoilers would be a non-issue.
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            • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday October 12, @07:08PM (3 children)

              by Freeman (732) on Tuesday October 12, @07:08PM (#1186483) Journal

              2 and 3 didn't build a whole lot on the entire premise of #1. You are not missing much. A large section of one of them was literally a car chase, which was pretty interesting. #3 showed a lot more of outside of the Matrix kinds of stuff, but that's really kind of where it went of the rails at the end of #2 and start of 3. The conclusion left you wanting a bit something more as well. It's like the writers were like, hmm..., nothing else I want to add, poof, the end.

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              • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday October 13, @03:32AM (2 children)

                I found the premise of #1 retarded. Why would you use a life support system for a uniquely evolved brain as an energy source, a job a photovoltaic cell or single-celled being could do, rather than using the uniquely evolved brain in huge numbers to do emergent things? I was hoping for a sci-fi when I went into the theatre, what I experienced was very flashy, in a dumb cartoonish way, sci-farce.
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                • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Wednesday October 13, @07:35AM (1 child)

                  by mhajicek (51) on Wednesday October 13, @07:35AM (#1186603)

                  It was dumbed down for general consumption. In the original writings the machines were using the processing power of the humans brains.

                  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by FatPhil on Wednesday October 13, @08:24AM

                    That's a real shame, in that case. I generally don't trust directors who are willing to mangle material in such ways. I thought #2 and #3 were the manglings that I should avoid (I think there's even an XKCD about that), but it seems as if the mangling started in #1.

                    In a proper brain-using matrix, as I imagine it, could use the power of all the brains to generate the shared fake experience that the brains would then be fed. It wouldn't work with only a small number of brains, they couldn't create a complex enough imagined universe to fool the brains that it was real for long. However, once you've got a critical mass, you have a "singularity" moment, and it would gain emergent intelligence great enough to fool any one of its individual nodes that what it was experiencing was real, and after that, there's no way back. Could have been a cool movie.

                    OTOH, don't waste time with wannabe-serious movies, and watch /Free Guy/ instead. It's basically Matrix-meets-Lego.
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12, @03:00PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12, @03:00PM (#1186423)

        Depends where you are in the US, around here you virtually never use the surname or honorific.

  • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Monday October 11, @08:13PM

    by krishnoid (1156) on Monday October 11, @08:13PM (#1186273)

    The notorious alleged hacker and convicted pedophile was remanded to custody in Iceland's highest security prison, Litla Hraun, on September 24.

    Thordarson was arrested the same day he arrived back in Iceland from a trip to Spain, and was subsequently brought before a judge after police requested indefinite detention intended to halt an ongoing crime spree. The judge apparently agreed that Thordarson's repeated, blatant and ongoing offences against the law put him at high risk for continued re-offending.

    And I had such a good feeling about this upstanding citizen being a sympathetic, credible witness against that criminal traitor enemy of the state, that weenie-poking cat-mistreating Julian Assange. Will justice ever be served?

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Opportunist on Monday October 11, @08:32PM (2 children)

    by Opportunist (5545) on Monday October 11, @08:32PM (#1186278)

    Agent Miller: Mr. Thordarson, we know you're a convicted pedophile and have a few other things on your slate. But we are willing to make you an offer.
    Thordarson: Yes?
    Agent Miller: We'd need you to testify against Mr. Assange.
    Thordarson: Uh... I know jack about that guy.
    Agent Miller: We're willing to give you immunity in exchange for your testimony.
    Thordardson: I see. Well, could you tell me what I know that he did so I can properly testify?

    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday October 11, @09:15PM

      by Freeman (732) on Monday October 11, @09:15PM (#1186288) Journal

      It almost worked, who says it can't still?

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Beryllium Sphere (r) on Tuesday October 12, @01:16AM

      by Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) on Tuesday October 12, @01:16AM (#1186338)

      Which is yet another reason not to allow scumbags in your social circle. If the authorities ever wish you ill, they can have just that kind of conversation with the scumbag.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Tuesday October 12, @02:29AM (2 children)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Tuesday October 12, @02:29AM (#1186344)

    he admitted to fabricating statements to implicate Assange

    The question is: why did he do that.

    Either he held a grudge against Assange or he got a wad of cash from the FBI. If it's the latter, I'd like to see someone indicted States-side too.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12, @04:39AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 12, @04:39AM (#1186353)

      "Informants" aren't illegal - they're the whole damn industry. Conspiracy, RICO, espionage, only require sworn statements to convict...

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday October 12, @05:53PM

      Or both. Assange sacked him and sued him twice, so the former is definitely a motive; and the FBI's the FBI, the latter should be considered the null hypothesis.
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