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posted by janrinok on Saturday January 01 2022, @12:01AM   Printer-friendly [Skip to comment(s)]
from the no-5G-here-for-quite-a-few-years dept.

Researchers offer future 6G network concept:

With commercial 5G rapidly deploying, researchers have begun to look at 6G. Its key technologies for mobile communication networks are expected to become available as early as 2023, with 6G networks emerging in 2030, according to Saad et al. Compared to 5G, the 6G network will increase data rates by over 100 times, to one terabyte per second or more, enabling the inclusion of edge intelligent devices and computing. To move large amounts of data to where and when it is needed, 6G networks will need to customize services to meet demands, transmit valued data, and interact with users.

To meet these requirements, the paper offers a "mailbox theory" that envisions a 6G network characterized as a:

  • Distributed Intelligent Network [...]
  • Proactive Interactive Network [...]
  • Cognitive Information Transmission [...]

Journal Reference:
Yixue Hao, Yiming Miao, Min Chen, et al. 6G Cognitive Information Theory: A Mailbox Perspective, Big Data and Cognitive Computing BDCC (2021) [open] (DOI: 10.3390/bdcc5040056)


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WiFi 7 (802.11be) will support up to 40 Gbps links, real-time applications

I still don't own a WiFi 6 router, but MediaTek has already started to demonstrate WiFi 7 (802.11be) to customers with solutions based on upcoming Filogic 802.11be processors which deliver "super-fast speeds and low latency transmission" and provide a "true wireline/Ethernet replacement for super high-bandwidth applications".

The company goes on to explain that Wi-Fi 7 relies on the same 2.4GHz, 5GHz, and 6GHz frequencies as WiFi 6/6E, but can still provide 2.4x faster speeds than Wi-Fi 6, even with the same number of antennas, since WiFi 7 can utilize 320Mhz channels and support 4K QAM (quadrature amplitude modulation) technology.

There's limited information about MediaTek Filogic 802.11be WiFi 7 processors since it will take a few more years before becoming available, but we can find more details in a document entitled "Current Status and Directions of IEEE 802.11be, the Future Wi-Fi 7" from IEEE Xplore.

Also at Notebookcheck.

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01 2022, @12:16AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01 2022, @12:16AM (#1209065)

    6G is only useful for boomers.

  • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by takyon on Saturday January 01 2022, @12:24AM (4 children)

    by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Saturday January 01 2022, @12:24AM (#1209066) Journal
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01 2022, @03:53AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01 2022, @03:53AM (#1209091)

      Meh. Wake me up when ISPs start offering residential connectivity that warrants higher frequency and more bandwidth and more antennas than ac. Hell, 2.4Ghz 802.11n is good enough in most cases.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @04:52AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @04:52AM (#1209095)

      FTFY [wikipedia.org]

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @05:17AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @05:17AM (#1209098)

        https://lainzine.org/ [lainzine.org]

    • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Saturday January 01, @07:19PM

      by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Saturday January 01, @07:19PM (#1209188) Homepage Journal

      Before now, the "next generation" is higher and higher frequencies, since with digital the higher the frequency, the higher the bandwidth. But they're pretty much tapped out; they changed OTA TV frequencies (TV no longer needs the analog bandwidth) and now the weather forecasters and airports are bitching about the noise.

      What's next? How do they do 6G?

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      Free Martian whores! [mcgrewbooks.com]
  • (Score: 3, Funny) by fustakrakich on Saturday January 01 2022, @12:31AM (2 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday January 01 2022, @12:31AM (#1209069) Journal

    Now we gotta get another vaccine

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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @12:26PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @12:26PM (#1209125)

      That and a nudie scanner app for all 6G mobile platforms.

    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday January 04, @05:14PM

      by Freeman (732) on Tuesday January 04, @05:14PM (#1209842) Journal

      Just like with Sexually Transmitted diseases, the best way not to get the disease is to not participate in said activity. Or at worst, make sure you're using protection and it's a monogamous relationship.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01 2022, @12:37AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01 2022, @12:37AM (#1209070)

    We don't even know how 5G will be used, and thus have no conception of what we'll actually _need_ from 6G. The authors didn't let that stop them though, they'll _tell_ you what we should be needing.
    It's all fun an games to claim "100x the throughput rate of 5G" but what does that actually mean in practice? Is this another one of those scams that starts with "we offer you speeds of /up to/ X Mbps"? Sure, the spectrum _may_ potentially offer that... if you're the only one using it, and traffic doesn't need to leave your cell zone, and your phone is transmitting at an excess wattage, etc...

    Given those throughput rates and the desire to 'interact with users^Weyeballs', I can only deduce that Google, Facebook/Meta, et al. are all just salivating at how many more ads they can push in front of our faces. It appears that the internet is no longer for porn and hasn't been for about a decade now, it's just for ads, ads, ads... and squeezing people who are on it for every last drop of 'unrealized profit'.

    Also, "Cognitive Information Transmission" has got to be the dumbest thing I've read all year, and I've read a bunch of dumb things this year...

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by gznork26 on Saturday January 01 2022, @01:22AM

      by gznork26 (1159) on Saturday January 01 2022, @01:22AM (#1209077) Homepage Journal

      At those speeds, we can probably expect to see the BlipVerts from Max Headroom that were too fast to be perceived yet were awesomely effective, except for the side-effects, like maybe mass deaths. Or perhaps deep subliminals like those that triggered River Tam in Serenity.

      Maybe we should pay more attention to the kinds of comms research the DoD and the tech industry start funding.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by SomeGuy on Saturday January 01 2022, @02:37AM (3 children)

      by SomeGuy (5632) on Saturday January 01 2022, @02:37AM (#1209083)

      But, you see 6G is one bigger than 5G, so it will be better. It will change everyones lives. It has more molecules, and it's got what plants crave!

      You have to keep feeding consumertards this techno babble drivel so they never realize that their precious cell phones are shit.

      • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Saturday January 01, @07:23AM (1 child)

        by mhajicek (51) on Saturday January 01, @07:23AM (#1209110)

        At least if they keep upgrading, in a few years I'll be able to buy an electric car that no longer talks to the internet, because it's cellular modem won't be able to connect.

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        The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @08:04PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @08:04PM (#1209201)

          good point, however "the lobby(tm)" will push for a standard that only cars that can succesfully phone home (read: spy) is a safe car and thus can be started and used by owner mu-hahaha.

      • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @12:34PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @12:34PM (#1209128)

        You have to keep feeding consumertards this techno babble drivel so they never realize that their precious cell phones are shit.

        Ye joking, right? Telcos don't make a profit from selling phones, they make a profit from govt subsidies to extend the coverage. With a cell size of 102m OoM, there'll be heaps of new repeaters and towers to install (or else China will be the world leader in 6G, so better cough those subsidies)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01 2022, @04:31AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01 2022, @04:31AM (#1209094)

      Too bad it can't be both. Meaning, that the ads were porn. Think of all the Pizza commercials with the pizza boy delivering the sausage to a waiting group of coeds. I'll watch the shit out of those commercials.

    • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Saturday January 01, @07:23PM

      by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Saturday January 01, @07:23PM (#1209189) Homepage Journal

      You and I don't even need 4G, except that the more phones on your network the more bandwidth you need. The "next generation will give you unbelievable experiences" is advertising bullshit, a damned lie. The phone companies need it, not you or I.

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    • (Score: 2) by corey on Saturday January 01, @11:46PM

      by corey (2202) on Saturday January 01, @11:46PM (#1209240)

      Yeah I agree. It’s full of buzzwords and fancy new sounding concepts but at the end of the day what is 5G over 4G? Just faster. (And less flexible at the real high speeds, as you have to be 100m from a transceiver/tower.

      Cognitive radio is all the hype at the moment but it’s justa fancy name for carrier/collision detection (which Ethernet has had for decades) but in a frequency domain. When I read about that, I chuckled - cognitive, hehe.

      Oh, edge-* is another, edge computing, edge this and that. It just means your phone or computer do what they used to do years ago before cloud-* which is, compute stuff. It’s a big amusing cycle but it does mean a lot of conferences for people to go waste time at.

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Barenflimski on Saturday January 01 2022, @01:22AM (1 child)

    by Barenflimski (6836) on Saturday January 01 2022, @01:22AM (#1209076)

    I can't wait until AR erases everybody else. Walking down the streets of New York without any people would be amazing. Maybe my AI for my AR could throw in a few tree pokeman for fun? I think all of the walks I take should be through the fields of Costa Rica lined with native women fanning my ass while I eat pineapple in my birthday suit.

    Oh Zuck, plug me in and take me away.....

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 02, @03:30AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 02, @03:30AM (#1209275)

      Reminds me of the movie Strange Days [imdb.com]

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01 2022, @02:24AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01 2022, @02:24AM (#1209080)

    When do we get "Intelligent Agents"

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @08:07PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @08:07PM (#1209202)

      6G is the oxygen-free monster copper cable for mobile phonecall voice quality :)

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Mojibake Tengu on Saturday January 01 2022, @03:45AM (2 children)

    by Mojibake Tengu (8598) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 01 2022, @03:45AM (#1209090) Journal

    Huawei leads 6G patent competition, overall 38000 filed globally

    https://www.huaweicentral.com/huawei-leads-6g-patent-competition/ [huaweicentral.com]

    China accounts for 40% of 6G patent applications: survey
    Research shows country leads development race despite US sanctions
    https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Telecommunication/China-accounts-for-40-of-6G-patent-applications-survey [nikkei.com]

    And you guys picked one, funny, almost irrelevant paper to cover this technology storm?
    What about Huawei alone having several satellites up there since July?

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @02:37PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @02:37PM (#1209138)

      The patents must be as real as their research papers.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @06:51PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @06:51PM (#1209180)

      We'll beat them by jumping straight to 11G, USA goes to 11

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @06:19AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 01, @06:19AM (#1209103)

    Geico can save you $$ on your car insurance.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by FuzzyTheBear on Saturday January 01, @08:49PM (2 children)

    by FuzzyTheBear (974) on Saturday January 01, @08:49PM (#1209213)

    Sorry it already is stupid .. i just wanted to be polite .. 5g aint even deployed they're telling the telcos .. well .. all we sold you is obsolete you need to spend another 500 bils on new equipment andc all your customers need to spend just as much to change their obsolete phones .. ridiculous , specially since we don't even have 5g for a year .. crazy bunch of loonies .. they got to take their meds and chill.

    • (Score: 2) by Dr Spin on Saturday January 01, @09:50PM

      by Dr Spin (5239) on Saturday January 01, @09:50PM (#1209222)

      Here in London, the "Hutchinson 3G" network can't even get their 4G to work most of the time.

      Luckily, we expect to have 2G still running for a few decades as it is needed for the few IoT things that have at least a modicum of security.

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      Warning: Opening your mouth may invalidate your brain!
    • (Score: 2) by corey on Sunday January 02, @08:33PM

      by corey (2202) on Sunday January 02, @08:33PM (#1209410)

      It’s not stupid, it’s planned obsolescence and capitalism doing what it does.

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