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posted by hubie on Saturday April 23 2022, @05:56PM   Printer-friendly
from the FYI dept.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/04/cdc-warns-of-puzzling-hepatitis-cases-in-kids-cases-in-2-states-10-countries/

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released a health alert Thursday notifying clinicians of a US-based cluster of unexplained cases of liver inflammation in young children, which appear to be part of a puzzling international outbreak that now spans at least 10 countries and two US states.

According to the CDC, Alabama has seen nine cases of unexplained liver inflammation—aka hepatitis—in children between the ages of one and six since October of last year.
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North Carolina is also investigating two cases in school-aged children, neither of which required transplants.

The unexplained cases join dozens of others from around the world, mostly in children younger than 10 and many less than five. The United Kingdom has tallied 108 cases this year


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https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/05/cdc-reports-6th-child-death-from-unexplained-hepatitis-180-cases/

A sixth child has died in the United States from puzzling liver inflammation—aka hepatitis—and the number of unexplained cases has risen to 180 across 36 states, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The latest death was announced in a press briefing Friday, led by CDC Deputy Director for Infectious Diseases Jay Butler, who said it was reported to the agency Thursday. He did not indicate in which state the death occurred.

In addition to the deaths, 15 of the 180 cases required liver transplants, Butler reported. The cases all occurred in children under the age of 10 but skewed to preschool-age children, with the median age being around 2 years.

The latest US tallies feed into a global phenomenon that now includes over 600 cases across 31 countries, including 15 deaths. But, despite the growing numbers, international health experts are still scrambling to understand what's behind the illnesses after eliminating the most obvious possibilities, such as hepatitis viruses A, B, C, D, and E.

Previously:
CDC Raises Alarm of Mysterious Hepatitis Cases in Kids; 2 States Report Cases


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New Hypothesis Emerges to Explain Mysterious Hepatitis Cases in Kids 11 comments

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/07/new-hypothesis-emerges-to-explain-mysterious-hepatitis-cases-in-kids/

Researchers in the United Kingdom have come up with the most detailed, complex hypothesis yet to explain the burst of mysterious cases of liver inflammation—aka hepatitis—in young children, which has troubled medical experts worldwide for several months.
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In two new reports, UK researchers offer a fresh hypothesis that may be the clearest but most complex explanation. Their data suggests that the cases may arise from a co-infection of two different viruses—one of which could be an adenovirus and the other a hitchhiking virus—in children who also happen to have a specific genetic predisposition to hepatitis.

In one of the new studies, looking at nine early cases in Scotland, researchers found that all nine children were infected with adeno-associated virus 2 (AAV2). This is a small, non-enveloped DNA virus in the Dependoparvovirus genus. It can only replicate in the presence of another virus, often an adenovirus but also some herpesviruses. As such, it tends to travel with adenovirus infections, which spiked in Scotland when the puzzling hepatitis cases arose.

Previously:
Sixth Child in US Dies of Unexplained Hepatitis as Global Cases Top 600 - May 24th 2022
CDC Raises Alarm of Mysterious Hepatitis Cases in Kids; 2 States Report Cases - April 22nd 2022


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @06:13PM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @06:13PM (#1239054)

    Oh well, put your masks back on

    • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @06:24PM (12 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @06:24PM (#1239057)

      You can't isolate young children from the environment with lockdowns and masks for years without expecting a whole slew of new diseases to pop up. Hopefully at some point their immune systems can still recover but expect a lot of unecessary pain and suffering in that generation.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @06:34PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @06:34PM (#1239061)

        In some regard I feel (no evidence) that my immune system has gotten lazy (for lack of a better word) durring the pandemic lockdown. Not enough new and exciting bacteria etc for my immune system to train vs or keep up to date with. So now it feels like whenever I meet people in general I feel a bit ill for a day or so as I retrain and learn to fight again.

        • (Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @10:40PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @10:40PM (#1239087)

          In some regard I feel (no evidence) that my immune system has gotten lazy (for lack of a better word) durring the pandemic lockdown.

          Yeah, of course you have no evidence. Come back when you have something more substantive than your feelz.

          Not enough new and exciting bacteria etc for my immune system to train vs or keep up to date with.

          Suggestion: roll around in the dirt for a few minutes every day. After several days of that, I'm sure you will be "up to date".

          So now it feels like whenever I meet people in general I feel a bit ill for a day or so as I retrain and learn to fight again.

          I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess they feel much the same about you. Just my feelz.

        • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday April 24 2022, @02:51AM (1 child)

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday April 24 2022, @02:51AM (#1239139)

          Around here, lots of people started keeping their own laying hens as something to do during the pandemic. I'm sure their immune systems are getting plenty of work.

          I saw an article about this hepatitis in children thing that addressed the vaccination question with some data stating that one of the clusters was entirely among unvaccinated (for COVID) children, hypothesizing that maybe COVID itself is the hepatitis trigger.

          In any event, this gives people something to twitter and tweet about - wonder what's not being publicized in the meantime?

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          • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @08:11AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @08:11AM (#1239167)

            That seems unlikely to me. These children are testing negative for SARS-CoV-2 and positive for Ad41, which is known to cause Hepatitis in certain circumstances. Plus, this seems to be confined to clusters at the moment, at least in the severe cases. If this were something like COVID triggering this, it would probably look completely different from a symptomatic and geographical standpoint.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @06:41PM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @06:41PM (#1239063)

        CDC doesn't care about that. They just need a pretext to issue more mandates and sell more vaccines

        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @10:27PM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @10:27PM (#1239083)

          You're all crazy. Totally fucking crazy. This is why we can't have nice things.

          • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @02:09AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @02:09AM (#1239134)

            Are you a biologist? Shut up, trust the experts, and wear your mask!

            • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @03:10PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @03:10PM (#1239199)

              I haven't stopped wearing my mask. The Democratic Party and MSM declaring the pandemic over, just as the Republican Party predicted they would as soon as Trump was out of office, does not magically make the pandemic go away. All it does is once again demonstrate the scummy dynamic of second-party system with a fascist party and a conservative party attempting to appease the fascist party.

              • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday April 25 2022, @03:00PM (1 child)

                by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday April 25 2022, @03:00PM (#1239351) Journal

                I am taking chemotherapy right now which means my white blood cell count is low.

                If you see me wearing a mask you can kindly fuck right off and go mind your own fucking business.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @08:56PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @08:56PM (#1239453)

                  triggered

                  But don't worry, DM! I got vaccinated and wear my mask for you, no matter how badly the capitalist propaganda wants COVID to be some kind of new normal.

                  While I can't seem to muster compassion for the humans, masking up is not difficult. Plus I'm ugly under this mask, so I also have selfish motivation here.

          • (Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Monday April 25 2022, @05:40PM

            by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 25 2022, @05:40PM (#1239404)

            They've been lied to by shysters about how EVERYONE is lying to them, so that they end up not trusting anyone but those wonderful people who "told them the truth". They've been fed bullshit for so long that they can't tell when they're being given real food.

            --
            Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @03:46AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @03:46AM (#1239146)

      I've spent a lot of time lately going into locked-down facilities that have strict mask requirements and testing. I must say that the only effect I've noticed is the ease with which one is able to walk out with a big stash of very good quality masks.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @06:35PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @06:35PM (#1239062)
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @10:33PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @10:33PM (#1239085)

      Seriously?!? You expect us to listen to more than 8 hours of an FDA briefing? If you have some sort of point you were trying to make, I suggest you do it much more succinctly. Until then, go away!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @03:40AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @03:40AM (#1239144)

        Did you not notice that the link starts playback of the video several hours in?

  • (Score: 1, Troll) by krishnoid on Saturday April 23 2022, @07:02PM

    by krishnoid (1156) on Saturday April 23 2022, @07:02PM (#1239065)

    Have they been alerted to possible sources [youtu.be]? Warning, you may not be able to unremember this once you see it -- probably the deadpan delivery.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @09:28PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @09:28PM (#1239075)

    A Louisiana woman is being charged for murdering her little girl by forcing her to drink of a bottle of whisky.

    Coincidence? I think not.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @09:36PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 23 2022, @09:36PM (#1239078)

      She should self-identify as a Native American and say it was just part of her culture. If the judge is woke enough she'll get off with a session in the healing teepee.

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @03:50AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @03:50AM (#1239147)

      It's probably a symptom of the bird flu that's been going around lately. Louisiana is the pelican state.

  • (Score: 0, Troll) by driverless on Sunday April 24 2022, @08:39AM (1 child)

    by driverless (4770) on Sunday April 24 2022, @08:39AM (#1239171)

    ... if you have to go to ten countries to find it, and most likely they checked 50-100 to find ten that had cases?

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @12:51PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @12:51PM (#1239187)

      Yes, it is.

      out·​break | \ ˈau̇t-ˌbrāk, n:

      a sudden rise in the incidence of a disease

      You don't need a lot of cases, you just need more cases than the baseline. The fact the cases aren't localized is cause for additional concern, because it means local causes are immediately ruled out.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @09:57AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @09:57AM (#1239175)

    zero faith in organizations that thought a vaccine against a rapidly mutating coronavirus with 0.01 death rate can be mandated, and that it is better than seeking CURES.

    zero faith in their stats.

    the only stats the media cannot ignore is the illness cropping up in pro athletes, because they cannot hide well known people. The sample size is enough. The data is concerning.

    But please, commenters, go on talking about anything but the MRNA vax shots. You echo the mainstream media and you will end up as relevant as they are.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @11:30PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @11:30PM (#1239246)

      COVID can be eliminated. China is showing the way. If we spend the military budget instead on public health lockdowns, healthcare, and education, we could build a better world than any weapon will ever build us.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @10:54AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @10:54AM (#1239299)

        LOL China is showing us the reason why COVID will stay. It is too handy for performing whatever thing any government wants to.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @03:45PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @03:45PM (#1239374)

          No, COVID is here to stay because bellyaching dumbfucks are too busy furiously masturbating to Malthusian fantasies.

  • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday April 25 2022, @01:46PM (1 child)

    by Freeman (732) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 25 2022, @01:46PM (#1239322) Journal

    Though some of the children have tested positive for COVID-19, many have not. And none of the cases in Scotland, where the first cases were widely reported, had received COVID-19 vaccines, eliminating that as a possible cause.

    Not likely COVID-19 related as some kids had tested postive for COVID-19, while others had not. Also, apparently none of the cases in Scotland had received a COVID-19 vaccine. Thus, probably not a COVID-19 vaccine related issue. Likely another source is the cause of the outbreak. Hopefully, not something we've been eating or the like . . .

    --
    Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @09:47PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @09:47PM (#1239464)

      The initial suspicion is that it is a new strain of Ad41. Because this is occurring in geographic clusters, that suggests that a common source is causing each cluster such as toxic exposure or a pathogen. However, the fact that the geographic clusters are occurring in such a widespread manner globally, suggests that both highly-local and highly-global etiologies are unlikely. Together, a pathogen of some type seems most likely. Because Ad41 is already known to cause Hepatitis and a large number have active Ad infections or reported symptoms of Ad infection, that seems a likely choice. Furthermore, the pattern of spread suggests a new strain, instead of a new syndrome caused by an old strain. There are other possibilities, but Ad41 will remain a strong possibility while they try to do testing and contact tracing to support or rule it out.

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