Google marked Earth Day 2022 with a Doodle consisting of animated GIFs showing time-lapse images of four scenes: glacial retreat at the peak of Mount Kilimanjaro in Tanzania between December 1986 and 2020 and in Sermersooq, Greenland between December 2000 and 2020, a coral bleaching event on the Great Barrier Reef between March 2016 and October 2017, and deforestation of the Harz forests in Elend, Germany, between December 1995 and 2020.
Climate counsellor Lesley Hughes, a professor of biology at Macquarie University in Sydney, said the images of coral bleaching on the Great Barrier Reef are "a very high-impact visual image" that would resonate.
[...] "Our physical and biological world is transforming before our eyes and that's what these images are emphasising and so there's absolutely no time to waste."
Hughes said the confronting images published in 2022 may be a response to the IPCC26 report and were important for raising awareness.
"I think when you're sitting in a middle-class environment and it's a nice day and the sun's come up or has gone down, it's easy to become complacent about the larger forces at work in our climate system and the impacts those forces have," Hughes said.
"So reminding people that just because it's a nice day, climate change hasn't gone away is really important."
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @06:09PM (2 children)
Better late than never but isn't there a way to prioritize time sensitive articles?
(Score: 2) by hubie on Sunday April 24 2022, @07:36PM
I was looking at the Doodle and thought it would make a good story submission. I started to write something up, but then I realized there must be stories already written about it so I searched and found this one. Unfortunately this wasn't until close to the end of the day, but I thought the time-lapse images themselves were the more interesting part of this, not that it was released on Earth Day, so I submitted the story anyway. By the time I submitted it, Earth Day was largely over and prioritizing it wouldn't have made any difference.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday April 25 2022, @06:21PM
Why yes, there is a very simple solution to getting the submission queue prioritized!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @06:40PM (13 children)
That war is the direct result of green policies (green, as in color of Russian $$$$$$ pocketed by friendly politicians in the West).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @07:25PM (11 children)
If only we could build nuclear power instead of nuclear bombs.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @09:35PM (10 children)
No nukes! No nukes! ... dumbass hippies.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @09:47PM (9 children)
Maybe when we're past the capitalist robber baron stage we can build fission reactors that are properly maintained and overbuilt for safety. Until we get there I'll refer your libertarian dumb ass to 3 Mile Island, Chernobyl, and Fukushima.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @10:15PM (1 child)
Once again, I refer you to the damn ongoing war in Ukraine. The incidents you try to scare us with, taken all together, killed only a small fraction of what Russians have done in merely two months.
Learn arithmetics, you inbred cretin. You are NOT magically protected from becoming collateral damage when the barbarians you invite DO come at last.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @01:57AM
Hoo boy, and we're not even close to peak macho.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @10:19PM
Outdated reactor designs.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Sunday April 24 2022, @10:40PM (2 children)
So three accidents in 43 years? With one not due to capitalism or robber barons and Three Mile Island not much of an accident compared to the other two. My take is that we're long past that scary stage - you just haven't noticed yet.
I'll note also that Japan had a great plan for obsoleting old reactors and finding/preparing for risks that the original plants weren't designed to withstand. The former was short-circuited by anti-nuke hysteria in the late 1990s (with a whole generation of nuclear plants nixed as a result). And the later process was just too slow (especially when combined with the expectation that the reactors would shut down, starting in 2011 when the earthquake hit - why build a higher seawall when the reactors are going to shutdown permanently in a few years, right?).
What's missing from your criticism is that we have an impressive track record of hundreds of reactors worldwide running their entire lives without serious incident. But we're still learning about the problems of fission power. I think rather than worry about robber barons, we should be worried about the stuff that slips through the cracks like at Fukushima, due in large part to a combination of an ignorant public, regulatory cluelessness, and bureaucratic inertia.
(Score: 2) by stretch611 on Monday April 25 2022, @12:42AM (1 child)
Well, I agree with khallow, {{shudders}} But in this rare case he is right. All the nuke plants around the world, only 3 big incidents in 50+ years, admittedly 2 of them have far reaching and long lasting effects, but we have also learned since then.
We do have designs now that are better, more efficient, and with better redundancies as well as things like passive cooling that will work even when there is no power whatsoever.
In addition fusion looks promising with more power generated and less waste.
Now, I do believe in renewables like solar and wind, but you need something (and nukes are good in this respect) to generate the power where the sun don't shine and when the wind dies down. (or when there is too much wind which, surprisingly, is also bad for wind generators.)
But there is still a big problem for nuke plants, and like others in this thread the risk is there due to the current war in Ukraine. While they later left, the russians took over Chernobyl and they are currently in control of Zaporizhzhia, the largest nuke plant in Europe/Ukraine. Given Putin's (ASSHAT) record he does not have his forces there to keep the nukes safe. He is using it to terrorize and there is no telling what type of problems he will cause to people and the environment if he causes and "accident" to occur at the plant.
Now with 5 covid vaccine shots/boosters altering my DNA :P
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Immerman on Monday April 25 2022, @07:53AM
I think fission has some serious potential, but I can't help thinking that when weighing the risks compared to other options "deaths so far" really isn't a meaningful metric.
E.g. most of the deaths from coal power generated this year will occur in be in the next few decades, and looking at historical trends we can estimate deaths per year.
Nuclear though - that waste will be around poisioning the world for for 10s of thousands of years, which makes it reasonable to assume that the overwhelming number of deaths from nuclear power generated this year will occur over the next many millenia. If we were to assume the current death rates per TWh for nuclear extend continue for 1000x longer than coal, then the 0.07deaths/TWh that makes nuclear look so good compared to the 24.6/TWh for coal would suddenly balloon out to 70/TWh.
Of course trying to project storage risks from generation risks is ridiculous, but my point is we really don't have any actual data on long-term storage risks, only conjecture, and a disturbing number of careless storage failures.
Granted, that risk mostly goes away with thorium and other breeder reactors that can consume the long-lived waste as well - storing (or repurposing in RTGs) the short-lived stuff for a few centuries until it's good and dead shouldn't be a problem. But unfortunately thorium reactors haven't hit their stride yet.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @10:00AM (2 children)
This de-railing of the discussion as all the marks of a covert aristarchus intervention! Off-topic, tweeking the nuke geeks, leading to mocking the libertarians, just like something aristarchus would do. Happy (three days past) EarthDay!
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @11:55AM
#WeAreAristarchus #WeAreRunaway #WeDoNotForgive #WeDoNotForget
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @05:15PM
Only on Soylent News would bringing up the dangers of nuclear power plants be de-railing. You're worse than the die hard environmentalists you trash all the time. Who has the moral high ground? The people that want cheaper energy? Or the people that want to make sure our specie's only home is safe?
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Monday April 25 2022, @05:56AM
No, it isn't. Rather, it is a result of neglecting green policies for too long. Otherwise we'd already be independent of Russian fossil fuels.
Also, if e.g. Nabucco had been built instead of Nord Stream 2, we'd now be in a much better situation even with our dependence on gas. That was a decision not at all influenced by green policies.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @07:34PM (3 children)
'tis funny. changing nature pics as an exposé to make a case is just plain dumb.
show expanding landfills and slums and health care and stuff that shows how only a few profit at cost of many.
don't like prison food? well make your own food then. i don't think so.
climate change doesn't bother the prison wards. it's to make you feel bad after becoming (and keeping you dependant) on them.
the change is still too slow for humans to notice. sure we now have photos of 40 years before and after and some where present when photos where taken. but anyone born today will be difficult to convince that before was normal. 'tis a lost cause. cannot be compiled.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday April 24 2022, @10:47PM (2 children)
It's still cherry picking - looking hard for the negative things rather than the positive. The big things missed from both are the huge improvement in the human condition globally over the past 40 years - such as the end of Communism, modernization of the entire world, and growing wealth of the average person.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @08:54AM (1 child)
...and built on the back of a increase of fossile consumption. for oil a doubeling in 2004 (40 mil bpd) to 2019 (99 mil bpd). bigger, better prison with more inmates.
for other fossiles surely the consumption did not decrease ...
dig deeper, man!
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday April 25 2022, @03:18PM
So what? I don't have a problem with that. If it turns out that fossil fuel consumption is a serious, near future problem, we'll find out (notice that we haven't yet!). Then we can reduce fossil fuel consumption to safer levels with little drama. In the meantime, we have better things to do, like elevate billions of people out of poverty.
The problem with that enough bigger and better means it's no longer a prison (I think we passed that point long ago). Inmate growth is slowing down too, globally. We're seeing a slow decline in absolute population growth (which in turn means a substantial decline in percentage population growth).
There's something wrong with the narrative.
(Score: 2) by Captival on Sunday April 24 2022, @08:45PM (1 child)
Next Earth Day, show a nice mountain of dead rotting corpses of children who died from malaria, which would have been prevented if enviro activists didn't lie about the long term danger of DDT.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 24 2022, @09:16PM
Won't somebody think of how many Ukrainian children are killed each year by malaria!
(Score: 3, Interesting) by bzipitidoo on Sunday April 24 2022, @11:06PM (21 children)
I've been convinced since the 1990s that we have a climate crisis on our hands. What I want to know is, what do we do about it now?
Put solar on the roof? Trade in the gas burning cars for battery electrics? Already have more efficient heating and cooling, LED lighting, power sipping computers, and other power efficient consumer goods. As to water saving devices, could maybe use that. These one handle showers in which only the temperature can be adjusted and not the flow, have apparently grown in popularity in recent years. But I have another approach. Make those showers super quick, or even, just skip them. I have read that showering every day is not good for your skin.
I have a used Nissan Leaf, and I can confidently say that battery electric vehicles are excellent for anything within half their maximum range, so that you can do all your charging at home. Outside that range, they're poor. One little hitch, and you will be stuck with long waits away from home to recharge. Visiting a friend whose house was just at the maximum range, so that I had to recharge while there, it was cut short without me noticing, because there was another appliance on the circuit that powered up intermittently. All seemed well for perhaps an hour, until it turned on, overloaded the circuit, and tripped the breaker. This went unnoticed for some 3 to 4 hours, and resulted in me being forced to impose on him longer, waiting for enough charge for me to make it home. As for public charging stations, can't rely on them. Too often occupied, not working, or locked behind some sort of barrier. And, while faster than the average wall outlet, still too slow. Until BEVs and the supporting infrastructure improve, best to drive a PHEV.
Maybe get more into politics? Such as, can we ease up on the lawn care madness? And isn't our street lighting just a tad excessive now? I can barely make out the Big Dipper and Orion, the light pollution is just that bad. And, though I wrote as if car ownership is a given, maybe it would be better to rent a car when needed, rather than own one. On that point, what about making our communities more bicycle and pedestrian friendly? Maybe more public transit, too.
One thing I have realized, about politics, is that people hate change. Proposals to revamp an existing neighborhood or town that has not suffered years of neglect and decay will run into a lot of resistance. Better to start fresh.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @04:04AM (6 children)
> what do we do about it now?
Don't have kids (or stop, if you already started).
Your gene line isn't worth much in an overheated future anyway, so just quit already.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @04:18AM (5 children)
Save the earth... for whom, then?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @01:55PM (3 children)
What, you think I expect any large number of people to stop having children?
The question was "what to do?" and that's my personal answer--which I started thinking about during the first earth day. I was in high school then, a university student made a presentation to our class and his comments made sense to me.
(Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Monday April 25 2022, @03:26PM (2 children)
At the very least, we should quit treating population growth as an arms race, in which groups each try to have the most babies, the better to feed their war machines for eventual conquest of the other groups. You know, those whole overdone hysterical fears of the Great Replacement, and that Master Race stuff. The post-WWII Baby Boom was a terrible idea.
The problem is with those who don't care to restrain themselves. If the evangelicals all follow the likes of the Duggars, we will be looking at Malthusian disaster scenarios. I wonder if it could help to pay people to submit to sterilization.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @06:20PM (1 child)
The white people aren't the ones reproducing past replacement rate. That would be the niggers in Africa, world champions:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-fertility-rate-by-world-region-including-un-projections-through-2100 [ourworldindata.org]
But note that even their fertility rate has dropped very significantly. Overpopulation is a "problem" that is resolving itself. Accept that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @10:25PM
Oh look a Nazi! Fuck off VLM.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday April 25 2022, @03:39PM
Clearly running out of humans is good faith worry of his and definitely not an obvious concern troll!
Yep, any day now we're just gonna run out of humans. One day, billions of the fuckers, then next, nada!
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @04:19AM (13 children)
Hey friend, this is a bit late but I appreciate your honest and thoughtful questions. Here's where I'm at, from most to least impactful:
1) talk about it. Tell the truth. Be "that person." Have facts on hand. In these discussions, aim to engage with the other person's/people's values and beliefs. And vary the goal by the other party:
* activate people who are already alarmed or concerned
* make cautious people understand the issue is concerning+
* engage disengaged people
* noncombatatively discuss with genuine doubters, seeding doubt with facts that seem to indicate climate and ecology issues
* ignore (or downmod!) dismissive people and trolls
(this approach is outright stolen from this person: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/katharine-hayhoe-evangelical-christian-climate-scientist-953086/) [rollingstone.com]
2.1) write, call, or email your elected officials, about local issues.
* Make it clear that you are a voter.
* Local here means at each tier of municipal, division/state, national.
2.2) email (or maybe tweet?) local journalists about local issues.
I've had ok results specifically with:
* thanking them for their coverage of environmental issues (hopefully encourages more coverage, also bumping interaction metrics)
* asking for more coverage of specific local issues (eg. here we have industrial environmental crimes which rarely break in the media, and a copy of a down-plume notification letter is good fodder for lazy journos)
3) if you're willing then engage in peaceful public protest. This normalizes it so others can feel ok with expressing their related beliefs publicly.
* this is wielded by all sides; note how effective this strat was for the Canadian truckers, for US Trumpians, and so on
4) for the sake of your own conscience, live a little greener whenever it's possible.
* This is feel-good but low impact
* but some core impacts can be cut!
** home energy: insulate, and if possible use heat pumps
** transportation: active transport (walking, biking, ebiking) > electric or transit > carpooling > single occupant vehicle
** flight: avoid
** food: swap some/all beef and pork out for chicken or plant, avoid a few major problems like palm oil and sea-farmed fish (source: "You want to reduce the carbon footprint of your food? Focus on what you eat, not whether your food is local" https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food), [ourworldindata.org] try to freeze food before it spoils.
** consumerism: buy less, especially less single-use or easily-broken or plastic or electronics. Take advantage of re-use networks (second hand stores, freecycle groups, etc) both when you want an object and when you have usable objects you no longer use and would be rid of.
** if you control land: swap grass for pollinator plants, encourange dense thicketing, don't poison rats, bell and spay cats, grow some easy potatoes / rhubarb / fruit tree / etc for personal consumption, don't buy pesticides or fertilizer
5) Primary involvement. As you said, "Maybe get more into politics?" if you have time and energy!!
6) Revel in nature
* This not only grounds you in the clear 'why' but also inspires others who inevitably find out.
(Score: 1) by bzipitidoo on Monday April 25 2022, @02:36PM (4 children)
Hm, much of that is not easy. The easy stuff we have done. Already have heat pumps, and eat almost entirely vegetarian.
Right now, we are under a deadline to make our lawn conform to an HOA's ideals. If we do not comply by May 8, they will fine us $125 plus send in a service and bill us for that too, for a maximum of $500 more. (I did not want be in an HOA. That was the S.O.'s idea.) Many of the neighbors got some kind of lawn treatment that turned the grass a nasty cyan color. I gather that this was a combo herbicide and fertilizer treatment. At least one has complained that the fumes from those treatments made her and her dog sick when they walked by. (She didn't get her yard treated. Instead, she weeds by hand.)
I find it really messed up that these neighbors don't bat an eye at grass coated with cyan colored poison, but are all outraged over a few dandelions. Some clearly have way too much time on their hands. I told another neighbor about the threat the HOA mailed us, and she declared she was "absolutely" with the HOA, whining that she couldn't even tell where the line was between our flower bed and our yard. i had no idea such a demarcation was so important to her! It's like her life just won't be the same if she can't tell from a distance where our flower bed ends and our lawn begins. The letter from the HOA declared that our "weeds" were "out of control".
Outside an HOA is not much of an improvement. There, it takes just one anonymous complaint for the city to send out the lawn police. They're suckers for lawn care services seeking to drum up more business. We have received one of their way over-the-top notices, informing us that we could be fined up to $2000 per day, for lowering property values, creating a fire hazard, sheltering vermin, blocking drivers' views, etc. The letter also said this would be our only warning, and any further trouble, they'd just fine us. So, they keep dossiers on peoples' lawns?? I actually caught their agent red-handed, taping the notice on our door. Didn't knock, didn't ring the doorbell, just tape and run. Coward. And that we got for skipping one week of mowing, because it'd been a wet week. The grass in the median of the nearby major street was higher than ours. I went to city hall and gave them hell about that notice.
So I don't know. We do not want to put poison on our yard. I don't want to go down the route of being all threatening and confrontational. I note many spots where there is bare dirt, some of which has eroded onto the sidewalks, dead grass, grass that's been mowed too short, dog feces, etc. I suppose I could make a stink about all that stuff, but I don't want to fight fire with fire. I also do not want to turn them even more into enemies of the environment by, say, having our yard declared as a wildlife sanctuary or nature preserve, if that is even possible. I see little hope of persuading the HOA to let us alone. I resent caving to their bullying, but I see little practical alternative.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @04:35PM
Sounds like your neighbors have too much time on their hands if you got cited after missing one week of mowing.
Once I did call the town on the neighbors across the street...but they hadn't mowed in a few months and the weeds were approaching 3 feet (1 meter) high. There was grass, but by then completely overrun by tall weeds.
That house has since been sold and those neighbors left town, time will tell what the new owner will do. His first move over the winter was to strip the interior of the house. This filled four large dumpsters with random junk, some serious hoarding. He's a contractor, even sent over a small bucket loader to smash down (compress) the junk in the dumpsters so they could put more in them (these dumpsters cost by the load, not the weight).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @09:28PM (2 children)
Absolutely true - but much of it is easy and free, too. :)
Thank you! But remember that self-oriented stuff is what oil companies and other bad actors want you to focus on so they can continue externalizing and systematically trading our future for their short term profit. It's to your and to the environment's benefit if you don't get stuck on the small fights, even when they're personal.
That said, damn, doesn't it feel good to compost? It's like helping a senior with groceries or giving a tangerine to a child - it's not free, but personally contributing is personally satisfying. Revel in that feeling!
Ugh. I'm sorry. Seems like a "lobby local governance" moment, but if it's a brick wall don't bash your head on it.
You can truthfully say they're salad greens, FWIW.
Sounds cathartic, and maybe it helped make decisionmakers aware of the absurdity of their rules. Good on you.
Yeah. Sounds like you've got one specific problem really weighing on you right now. I'm sorry. We don't win every battle. I hope the lawncare issue doesn't become a white whale for you, and that you have some success with the many other ways we can nudge society in the right direction.
(Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Tuesday April 26 2022, @01:02AM (1 child)
One homeowner vs one HOA is inconsequential. What would really matter is if we could get some state or national level rollback of all these crazy local ordinances. If the federal government were to tell local governments they can't require that grass be kept shorter than half a meter, can't fine the bejesus out of a homeowner, and slap a hefty tax on powered lawn care equipment while at the same time provide incentive to employ natural methods such as herds of goats, that could be enough to help ease Global Warming. The lawn care industry is the special interest that would fight that, of course.
I really think that motorized lawn care has been terrible. Gave us the power to easily force nature to conform to our ideals of what a lawn should be. Trouble is, what most of us think is the ideal lawn is in fact an environmental disaster. No diversity. Needs lots of water. People also dump way too much fertilizer on lawns. I find the inflexibility especially confounding. Even in desert cities, people still want lush green lawns.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 26 2022, @10:09PM
Right!
Which is why I devolve to do what you can personally, because it feels good to do right, but try to effect change at wider scales than the personal. So write those letters, keep talking on forums like this etc.
At one point, I was a foolish 15yo who had no idea about how environmentally negative it is to maintain a lawn, but people informed me; now the yard I control has no real grass, just prayer plants and milkweed and flowering shrubs and mint, and the original trees. But if someone like you hadn't spoken up and wised me up, I'd still have society's current default beliefs of lawn==good. So keep spreading the word - I guess especially to youth!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Monday April 25 2022, @02:56PM (1 child)
A tip that would likely resonate here:
7) Fix Stuff!
Take broken crap that would be headed to the landfill and make it work again or repurpose it for something else. You're probably doing something like that for fun already if you're posting on this dopey site!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @09:01PM
yeah! 100%! The "fix and re-use network" using local loopback!
I'm the AC who posted 2 up. I should've included this in 4/consumerism. Good call!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @03:13PM (5 children)
My standard response when someone starts preaching about climate change is to ask them where they think we should build the nuclear power plants.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday April 25 2022, @03:42PM (3 children)
And when I say we should build more of them and put them wherever they are necessary including my backyard what is your response?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @05:19PM
Why you gotta ruin their rage bait?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @07:17PM (1 child)
Well, then we can have a reasonable discussion. But that's a very rare response.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @09:04PM
Is it?
I'm an environmentalist. I protest. I find it's about 50/50 on whether we should expand or contract fission. And because I have some engineering background, I find that after a good conversation it's closer to 75 in favour 25 against.
But then, I deal directly with concerns. Yes, meltdowns are real and scary! Going into some detail of contemporary failsafe designs helps; talking about how we should legislate against allowing nukes on/near fault lines and flood plains helps; and so on.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @06:03PM
> My standard response when someone starts preaching about climate change is to ask them
...how often they ride a bike, or walk, instead of using a car for a short trip.
(Score: 2) by stretch611 on Monday April 25 2022, @12:44AM
Well, thanks to the wonderful privacy record of Google, I generally search on Duck Duck Go. It has been a long time since I saw the doodle on their home page and likely it will be far in the future before I see one again.
Now with 5 covid vaccine shots/boosters altering my DNA :P
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @01:03AM (2 children)
50 years of environmental consciousness And yet the environment has never been in worse shape.
Sorry to say but Malthus was right.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @11:20PM (1 child)
The problem is maybe 10% of any country's population is really environmentally conscious, and the peoole with money (power) are incentivized to not care. Clearly you are just spitting some propaganda bullshit.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 26 2022, @01:54PM
So when are the problems you've identified going to be fixed?
Never? Then Malthus was right.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25 2022, @10:45AM
Who is defining the problem? the parameters?
It is the heirs of the criminals who made the industrial revolution a way to shape society for the worst instead that for the best like any half assed politician would have done (too much productivity? get everybody employed taking turns, problem solved).
So, after fucking up society, and wilfully substituting natural substances with synthetic ones, and killing people, and make goods burn fuel to travel around the planet, and producing weapons, and destroying the work of actual innovators, and who knows how many other deeds, the very same people will teach you that the problem is too much co2 and that their models say that saving the earth involves sterilizing you and eating your pet.
Plus, the color that will define their nobility is GREEN. Because it takes a fucking lot of money to eat organic and live off the grid in a perfectly insulated natural materials house. They can afford it, you swine cannot.
So the question becomes, why are you letting the crook be your judge.