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posted by hubie on Wednesday April 27 2022, @07:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the Good-News dept.

Nasa has invented Duranium!
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Duranium

NASA's New Material Built to Withstand Extreme Conditions

NASA innovators recently developed a new metal alloy using a 3D printing process that dramatically improves the strength and durability of the components and parts used in aviation and space exploration, resulting in better and longer-lasting performance.

NASA Alloy GRX-810, an oxide dispersion strengthened (ODS) alloy, can endure temperatures over 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit, is more malleable, and can survive more than 1,000 times longer than existing state-of-the-art alloys. These new alloys can be used to build aerospace parts for high temperature applications, like those inside aircraft and rocket engines, because ODS alloys can withstand harsher conditions before reaching their breaking point.

[...] . NASA's new alloys deliver enhanced mechanical properties at extreme temperatures. At 2,000° F, GRX-810 shows remarkable performance improvements over current state-of-the-art alloys including:

  • Twice the strength to resist fracturing
  • Three and a half times the flexibility to stretch/bend prior to fracturing
  • More than 1,000 times the durability under stress at high temperatures

"This breakthrough is revolutionary for materials development. New types of stronger and more lightweight materials play a key role as NASA aims to change the future of flight," said Hopkins. "Previously, an increase in tensile strength usually lowered a material's ability to stretch and bend before breaking, which is why our new alloy is remarkable."

I guess Elon has to build a Raptor 3 with it.


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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Wednesday April 27 2022, @08:02PM (3 children)

    by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 27 2022, @08:02PM (#1240157) Journal

    Wake me when they invent Duran-Duranium so i can shoot myself!

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    • (Score: 5, Funny) by Thexalon on Wednesday April 27 2022, @10:20PM (2 children)

      by Thexalon (636) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 27 2022, @10:20PM (#1240208)

      Durand-Durandium, though, is very enjoyable, if Jane Fonda is any indication.

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      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Thursday April 28 2022, @12:48AM (1 child)

        by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 28 2022, @12:48AM (#1240239) Journal

        Ah, Barberella: fond memories of youth and new-found porn.

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        • (Score: 3, Funny) by RS3 on Thursday April 28 2022, @07:04AM

          by RS3 (6367) on Thursday April 28 2022, @07:04AM (#1240288)

          Naive me- years ago I first saw it on TV, cut and trimmed of course. But I didn't know it had been cut, so I certainly didn't know what had been cut out. So I tried to follow the plot and make sense of it. More than once. Sigh.

  • (Score: 1) by Billy the Mountain on Wednesday April 27 2022, @08:32PM (2 children)

    by Billy the Mountain (9724) on Wednesday April 27 2022, @08:32PM (#1240166)

    (With Raptor 3 a close second)

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2022, @11:24PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2022, @11:24PM (#1240223)

      Turbine discs need to be extremely rigid so they don't hit the stators under load and they can't stretch or they'd hit the case. The combustion chamber and maybe the bell would be candidates for this material since the tolerances aren't as tight. If the material is cheap enough and can also withstand extreme cold then Starship's hull is another candidate. On the other hand 3d printing is straight up Rocket Lab's and Relativity's alley so I expect that they are at least looking at this for their own rockets.

      • (Score: 2) by Immerman on Friday April 29 2022, @12:18AM

        by Immerman (3985) on Friday April 29 2022, @12:18AM (#1240560)

        Do we have any idea if this is any stretchier than what they're using now? I believe the stated flexibility mean it can be stretched 3.5x further before breaking, it says nothing about what forces are needed to do that. It might behave the same as the reference material under the same conditions, but can be pushed to much more extreme conditions before breaking.

        Because the thing is that *everything* flexes under load - even diamond (not much, but some). And that gets taken into account when designing high-speed precision turbines, etc.: At rest the turbine is actually slightly too small for the case, then it stretches to the perfect size when spinning at normal operating speeds.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2022, @08:37PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2022, @08:37PM (#1240169)

    NASA (ie. The Government) or a contractor with patent rights?

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2022, @11:17PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2022, @11:17PM (#1240220)

      NASA has a patent portfolio that they licence to businesses. This likely falls in that category since this type of research is how they get those patents in the first place.

      https://technology.nasa.gov/patents [nasa.gov]

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2022, @08:48PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2022, @08:48PM (#1240174)

    He likes to own things, not build things. Looks like SpaceX may want to build a Raptor 3 with Duranium.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by MIRV888 on Wednesday April 27 2022, @09:36PM (1 child)

    by MIRV888 (11376) on Wednesday April 27 2022, @09:36PM (#1240198)

    I think it's safe to assume some private entity will own the rights / profit to said discovery.
    That's America.
    Privatize the profits. Socialize the losses.
    It's just good business.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 28 2022, @07:19AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 28 2022, @07:19AM (#1240290)

      As I said to a previous poster, NASA patents its research and then licences it to private companies.

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2022, @10:44PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2022, @10:44PM (#1240215)

    It's occult bullshit from the top down.

    "You know the niggers are overrunning..."

    "They're laughing at us."

    "Who is righteous the white or the nigger?"

    "You got your nigger cattle!"

    "Too high for the grocery store!"

    "The CIA Niggers glow in the dark, you can see them when you're driving.
    You just run them over, that's what you do. Fuckin' CIA Niggers."

    --- "King" Terry A. Davis, RIP

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2022, @11:26PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2022, @11:26PM (#1240224)

    1093.333 degrees celsius. TFA does not say, and with science being made in C/K, it could be 1100 rounded in "translation" to 2000 freedumbs. Or maybe NASA nailed it and it's 1093.333333333333333333333... C.

    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Thursday April 28 2022, @10:03AM

      by maxwell demon (1608) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 28 2022, @10:03AM (#1240307) Journal

      Of course the scientific way would be to use Kelvin. Which makes 1366.48 K. Or rather over 1366.48, which might be 1400K.

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Sourcery42 on Thursday April 28 2022, @04:52PM

      by Sourcery42 (6400) on Thursday April 28 2022, @04:52PM (#1240403)

      Fine, 2460 degrees Rankine. We have absolute scales too, you insensitive clod.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Puffin on Thursday April 28 2022, @12:10AM (5 children)

    by Puffin (17060) on Thursday April 28 2022, @12:10AM (#1240230)

    Alloys, by definition, are alloys of something. What is the base metal being deployed? Or does 3-D printing and oxide dispersion negate the need for any actual information? Aluminium? Titanium? Unobtainium?

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 28 2022, @12:59AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 28 2022, @12:59AM (#1240242)

      Written for the MBA investor, not the engineer or craft tradesman.

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday April 28 2022, @01:50PM (2 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 28 2022, @01:50PM (#1240334) Journal

      What is the base metal

      My favorite Sci Fi trope: . . . a metal not found on earth!

      Oh really? And what element is that on the periodic table please?

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      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Immerman on Friday April 29 2022, @12:40AM

        by Immerman (3985) on Friday April 29 2022, @12:40AM (#1240563)

        Element 457 of course!

        Our periodic table isn't remotely complete, and I know of no reason to assume that some of the higher elements couldn't have stable, naturally occurring isotopes that might form under particular conditions that just didn't happen to be present in our little corner of the galaxy before Earth formed. Or it is present, but in such low concentrations that we haven't discovered it yet. Or the particulars of our planetary formation mean that it all settled into our core before a solid crust began to form to trap it on the surface.

        It could also be some bizarre alloy of materials that individually exist on Earth, but that can only alloy in exotic conditions that we couldn't recreate, and must therefore be carefully maintained in its alloyed state - e.g. melting it might completely destroy its properties.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 01 2022, @12:01AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 01 2022, @12:01AM (#1241111)

        Obviously, for a butthole, it has to be Vibratoranium.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Sourcery42 on Thursday April 28 2022, @04:49PM

      by Sourcery42 (6400) on Thursday April 28 2022, @04:49PM (#1240400)

      Scrith

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