Lab-grown meat and insects 'good for planet and health':
Dining on the likes of lab-grown meat or ground-up insects could lead to big savings in carbon emissions and water, as well as freeing up land for nature.
That's the finding of a study calculating the environmental benefits of "greener" foods hitting our plates.
Scientists say pressures on the planet could fall by more than 80% with such foods, compared with the typical European diet.
But it's not yet clear if consumers will want to shift their eating habits.
Yet another article about how lab-grown meat is good for you and good for the planet so you really should eat it. But yet somehow nobody appears to be wanting to eat it. Do the people that write these papers eat it? More then for testing? There is the usual yuck factor involved considering that some of the yummy foods suggested are ground-up flies and crickets. Then various forms of lab-grown cells (chickens, eggs, milk, meat and berries (cause apparently berries are no longer from plants?)). The usual seafood stuff like various forms of seaweed and algae, which people already eat so I don't even know why this is included.
Will people get over the yuck by pricing? I doubt this will take off until the time when this stuff becomes so ridiculously cheap they more or less are giving it away. Cause there is no way I'm paying meat prices for fake-meat. When will you start to eat lab-food-stuffs?
Journal Reference:
Mazac, R., Meinilä, J., Korkalo, L. et al. Incorporation of novel foods in European diets can reduce global warming potential, water use and land use by over 80%. Nat Food 3, 286–293 (2022).
DOI: 10.1038/s43016-022-00489-9
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @07:21PM (1 child)
Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier).
This WILL be DOWNMOD HIDDEN ("gosh, I wonder by WHOM?" (not)): Yes, even though they are FACTS that the JEWS provide from their own texts no less that are RACIST, murderous, pedophilic and more from THEIR OWN WRITINGS (you name it disgusting)!
Know thy ENEMY + who are the REAL "hate speak" & "racis'" assholes!
Read below, & judge for YOURSELF (not their MainStreamMedia programming you with their not even 1/2 truth BULLSHIT - it amazes me the METHODS/CONCEPTS they preach to YOU are 'bad' YET jews themselves are FAR MORE GUILTY OF what they preach against than anyone else of them):
Yebamoth 98a: "All children of the goy are animals"
Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
Avodah Zarah 36b: "They decreed connection with a heathen child that it should cause defilement by seminal omission so that an Israelite child should not become accustomed to commit PEDERASTY with him. It is therefore to be concluded that a heathen (non jew) girl from the age of 3 + 1 day for inasmuich as she is then capable of the sexual act she likewise defiles by a flux. This is obvious"
Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaim 14, 20, 32, 33, 39: "A Jew may do to an Non-JEWESS what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat"
Avodah Zarah 37a: "R. Joseph said: Come and hear - a maiden aged 3 years and 1 day may be acquired in marriage by a coition (sex) and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her she becomes his"
Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath KALNIDRA (what they recite on entry into day of atonement that for the next 12 months no oath they make to others MATTERS & can be broken) when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
Nedarim 23b: "He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null'. His vows are then invalid."
Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
Yalhut 245c: "Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice" per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] (one HELL of an INFORMATIVE video that)
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
Choshem Ha'mishpat 425.50: "Everyone who sheds the blood of the NON-JEW (impious) is as acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God"
Midrasch Talpioth page 225 L: "The Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings"
Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
Zohar, Vuyshiah 177b: "Jews may cheat Goys over a bill" etc.
Hadarine 20, B & Schulchan Aruch, Choszem Hamiszpat 34B & Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."
Mas. Shabbath 32b: "On the house of the Goy one looks as on the fold of cattle"
Baba Mazia 114b: "The Goyim are not humans. They are beasts"
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it."
Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."
Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
Zohar, Toldoth Noah 63b & Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean."
Rosh Hashanah 17a: "Christians who reject the Talmud shall go to HELL and be punished there for all generations"
(Like they said Jesus is in HELL boiling in SHIT (excrement) perhaps, per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] & where JEWS literally say "We killed Yeshua and are PROUD of it"?)
Gittin 57a: "Jesus (Jashua) is in HELL boiling in hot excrement"
In the BRIGHTEON link above, they show Jesus as a MONKEY being pounded by a hammer with nails into a cross mocking him.
Mas Yevamoth 61b: "All JEWS will have a part in the future world The Goyim at the end of the world will be handed over to the angel DUMA and sent down to hell"
(AGAIN - Bear in mind that JEWS supplied that material above, not I...)
* RACIST, megalomaniacal, murderous, lying & twisted THIEVES TO THE CORE in Khazar/AshkeNAZI fake jews!
APK
P.S.=> All I can say is "EAT SHIT Synagogue of SATAN" per John in REVELATIONS (where he states "those who say they are jews but are not" more or less in stating what they are in Khazar/AshkeNAZI fake jews who follow the above set of rules from their "book of LAW")... apk
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @07:35PM
SN Hitler is still throwing a tantrum? As usual right when their spam mods from last time are wearing off. With throwaway accounts being easy enough to create, and with pretty much zero comments needing actual anonymous protection, seems like AC posting should require logging in. Of course that might require some higher integrity from staff to stop outing AC comments.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @07:29PM
> by over 80%
...or... we could maintain the current global warming/water/land usage, but increase the human population by 500%!
(Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Monday May 02 2022, @07:38PM (23 children)
Lab-Grown Meat: Never Cost-Competitive? [soylentnews.org]
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 5, Interesting) by ikanreed on Monday May 02 2022, @08:42PM (14 children)
It's a little bit disingenuous for me to say this, but you could consider those prices more accurately reflecting all the environmental externalities of eating. And again, I don't think that's truly accurate, but I do think it's close to accurate of where we'll be if we continue frying essential ecosystems at the rate we currently do.
When all the top soil has been deadened and turned into a dry silt that we add ammonia derivatives to to keep producing, but the oil we depend on to do so is all burnt in pursuit of eternal growth, I'm not sure where the gigatons of corn to feed cattle is going to come from.
When the perennial droughts start hitting the most productive regions, and all the aquifers and fresh lakes are drunk dry, I'm not sure how we're going to maintain our global wheat production.
When the dead zones and bleached reefs wipe out the non-algal food chains in the ocean, I'm not sure where else fish is going to come from.
It's going to be hell. And those prices are our preview of the "Most food comes from closed-system bioreactors" circle we're building.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Monday May 02 2022, @09:38PM (5 children)
Nuclear fusion and desalination will fix all our problems.
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by Joe Desertrat on Tuesday May 03 2022, @12:08AM
And it will all be run on Gnu Hurd servers.
(Score: 2) by ikanreed on Tuesday May 03 2022, @02:07PM (3 children)
I don't know if you're being sincere, but we don't have a practical, scalable, and efficient electrolytic ammonia production process right now. So even given unlimited, clean, cheap energy from fusion, there's a big glaring question mark on how we'll keep the green revolution going.
I don't think it's impossible to imagine that we'll come up with a way to do it, but it's one big area where we need oil.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 04 2022, @01:32PM (2 children)
Heat and pressure [wikipedia.org] is all you need. Both obtainable from nuke/solar/wind power.
(Score: 2) by ikanreed on Wednesday May 04 2022, @02:09PM (1 child)
Let me take your wikipedia url and add an anchor to the end of it look at the inputs here [wikipedia.org], Methane isn't exactly a renewable resource.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 07 2022, @10:10PM
I assume you are implying that the H2 is produced from CH4. That is indeed the current cheapest source of H2, but it is by no means the only one. Straight electrolysis is inefficient, but would work if necessary. It probably won't be, we regularly get articles on here about some new way to make H2 from sunlight and water.
(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Monday May 02 2022, @11:11PM (1 child)
from here [verymeaty.com]
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 04 2022, @01:38PM
So how many liter of water does Ozland semi-arid NT outback exports to Indonesia each year? I mean, in the years such exports aren't banned.
PS not like that 50 kL of water become suddenly unusable or lost for any purpose.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @11:44PM (1 child)
It will be healthier for the Wise Masters to remember all the environmental externalities of messing with their subjects' feed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_XVI [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Antoinette [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_II_of_Russia [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by ikanreed on Tuesday May 03 2022, @03:17AM
Yes, you tell those dumb rulers how they better keep magicking more oil out of empty wells in 30 years so they can avoid a revolution. That'll work great.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday May 03 2022, @03:50PM
I don't think any of these lab meat enterprises are up to scale yet. So that's going to increase the price for a while yet.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday May 03 2022, @04:17PM (2 children)
As long as we're living on a planet that is 70% covered in water, orbiting a star that heats that water up, rain will fall on the Earth and the silt will not dry up.
When rain falls, rivers run and fresh lakes and aquifers refill. It's part of the hydrological cycle. If rainfall patterns shift, areas that were previously wet will dry, and areas that were dry will moisten. It has been happening throughout human history. Yet, humans and human civilization persist.
Chances are, most of the fish you already consume is farmed. That is, eating it does not deplete wild stocks. So we can do more of that former and less of the latter.
Not really. I have been an avid environmentalist my whole adult life, but I have also learned that apocalyptic thinking is neither realistic nor helpful. It especially makes me wince when people who seemingly have grown up in cities or suburbs their whole lives and never worked in agriculture or animal husbandry start opining on what we need to do to ensure our food supply. Rain keeps falling. Plants keep growing. Animals keep living. It's sort of how the biosphere of Earth works, and humans are not large enough or powerful enough (except, perhaps, in our own minds) to stop that. If you disagree, walk north out of NYC some time and find out how quickly you're in the middle of nowhere. Hint: it happens shockingly fast.
As a fellow traveller, I have to say: relax. It's gonna be OK. We have and are figuring out how to live more sustainably. And, none of it. None of it! Involves eating bugs or massacring huge numbers of humans.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 04 2022, @03:24PM (1 child)
"Rain keeps falling. Plants keep growing. Animals keep living. It's sort of how the biosphere of Earth works, and humans are not large enough or powerful enough (except, perhaps, in our own minds) to stop that."
So you're an anti-science nutter that trusts your "common sense" more than experts that actually study the systems. Fertilizer problems, soil depletion, ocean life die off and overfishing, thousands of species already extinct, microplastics literally everywhere, atmosphere filled with greenhouse gases, but you will sit there thinking everything will work out just because humans have survived so long without destroying the planet. You win most willfully clueless award of the day! Hopefully you're right, but the damage already done is pretty catastrophic your little nature walks aside.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 07 2022, @10:17PM
If we detonated every nuclear weapon on the planet at once we could slightly warm up a very small percentage of the surface. The effect would be temporary. Thinking that we could destroy the planet is just laughable.
(Score: 2) by captain normal on Monday May 02 2022, @09:20PM (7 children)
Just this weekend I was grocery shopping and there was a large section in the frozen foods aisle dedicated to plant based food. There was a special on "Impossible Burger" that was priced more than grass fed top round beef. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not a big meat eater, but I do like it a couple of times a week, mostly chicken or fish. I do like a good steak maybe once a month. As for plants I'd rather prepare them my self either raw (as in salads) or lightly cooked. I get most of my animal protein from eggs and cheese.
Anything that is heavily processed I do not care for.
"It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they have been fooled" Mark Twain
(Score: 2) by takyon on Monday May 02 2022, @09:32PM (1 child)
Impossible Burger != lab-grown meat. Although it does have the "heme" you crave [soylentnews.org].
Plant-based meat alternatives being more expensive than high-quality meat is questionable on its own, but if the market for it grows sufficiently the prices will be undercut by one of the many store brands or meat companies.
The New Makers of Plant-Based Meat? Big Meat Companies [nytimes.com]
Lab-grown meat, aka cultured cells, are a whole 'nother animal. They require some complex processes that need to be refined (e.g. the first lab-grown burger had no fat cells in it) and scaled up. If everything goes perfectly, you could see higher quality lab-grown meat at lower prices than slaughterhouse meat. Or it could remain an expensive niche product.
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(Score: 2) by captain normal on Monday May 02 2022, @10:35PM
Maybe so...someday, but we are a long way from the Star Trek replicator.
"It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they have been fooled" Mark Twain
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @10:24PM
How Cooking Can Change Your Life - Michael Pollan (Youtube) https://youtu.be/TX7kwfE3cJQ [youtu.be]
Lab-grown anything cannot be good. We cannot trust those running the commercial scale to put health anywhere on the train - all is profit, no matter the consequences.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 02 2022, @11:32PM (3 children)
Burger King featured the Impossible Burger for awhile - maybe they still do. I tried one. The first half of the burger went down alright. I was hungry, and basically wolfed down half the burger. As I grew less hungry, the burger seemed to change flavor. It was just less and less palatable. I finally gave up, and tossed the last little bit, finished the fries, and called it good. YMMV of course - take it for a test drive, and see what you think of it. If, over the course of a week, or a month, you can eat them, and enjoy them, when you're not especially hungry, then all is well.
It should be noted that when you're ravenous, almost anything is going to taste good. A sawdust sandwich with lots of salt and catsup will probably do, if you haven't eaten in three days.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Tuesday May 03 2022, @03:18AM (2 children)
As a life-long mostly-vegetarian, my opinion on most of the plant-based substitutes for meat is that they suck. The Beyond Burger is boring at best. Ditto for an Impossible Burger. I'm not a huge fan of the fake-meat crumbles and not-meatballs either.
If you want a plant-based burger, go for one that doesn't even pretend to be meat. Black bean and garden burgers aren't burdened by efforts to try to taste like beef, and it means they can add a bunch of flavor that I at least quite enjoy. Not generally sold at fast food places, unfortunately, but it's real easy to buy a 4-pack of those frozen and slap em on on a grill next to the beef burgers.
If you're looking for a good entry point to vegetarian food, skip the plant-based substitutes and go for any of the vegetarian options at your nearest Indian restaurant, because with centuries of religious vegetarianism they worked out dishes that have excellent combinations of flavor and nutrition.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by loic on Tuesday May 03 2022, @02:53PM
Yup, never understood why these substitutes are so popular and still taste so lame. Meanwhile, tons of yummy vegan stuff was created all around the world where/when meat was a luxury or was forbidden.
Disclaimer: I am no vegetarian, vegan or anything. I just enjoy french, indian and lebanese food.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday May 03 2022, @03:58PM
As a life long meat eater Runaway's reaction to that Impossible Whopper is the same as mine for a normal supposedly all meat one!
Wife is vegetarian though so have tried a lot of substitutes and I try to do one vegetarian meal per week.
Fake meats basically all suck ass so far I can tell.
The one exception I have found are the Asian places that do the Buddhist monk style fakes. Those are usually pretty good but might be hard to find outside of major cities.
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Monday May 02 2022, @07:47PM (3 children)
I haven't seen anything like that in my grocery store, much less on how expensive it might be. Set up some sample tasting spots in the store for that kind of stuff and I'll try it out. If it looks like the non-lab-grown stuff it should be no problem. If there's obvious bug parts in there then there might be issues.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Joe Desertrat on Tuesday May 03 2022, @12:29AM (2 children)
I've tried a few "fake" meat (and cheese) products, and for the most part they have been awful. I'm not talking blandness and texture mediocre, I often use tofu to "flesh out" meals, I'm talking things like fake cold cuts that were literally inedible. I hate to waste food, on the rare occasions I botch a meal I'll almost always force myself to eat at least enough of it so that I'm no longer hungry. I tried fake meat and cheese a couple times for sandwiches and it was so bad I couldn't eat it. Not only could I not eat it, when I put it outside thinking maybe the stray cats, rats, raccoons or opossums might eat it, it sat there untouched until it rotted away. I have had "fake" sausage, especially Italian style, that was edible, but it is invariably almost, but not quite, entirely unlike the real thing. Perhaps the Marketing Division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation has already penetrated Earth and is selling it's products here, or at least sends sales and marketing people here to train.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 03 2022, @12:51AM (1 child)
Carrots make better veggie dogs than any of the wannabe crap. Portobellos or non-wannabe veggie patties for burgers. (Morningstar Farms makes a good black bean salsa patty, and their veggie one is pretty good too. Boca meat wannabe = barf.)
tofu++
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Tuesday May 03 2022, @03:26PM
I tried veggie hot dogs a while back, they were nasty.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @07:48PM
Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier).
This WILL be DOWNMOD HIDDEN ("gosh, I wonder by WHOM?" (not)): Yes, even though they are FACTS that the JEWS provide from their own texts no less that are RACIST, murderous, pedophilic and more from THEIR OWN WRITINGS (you name it disgusting)!
Know thy ENEMY + who are the REAL "hate speak" & "racis'" assholes!
Read below, & judge for YOURSELF (not their MainStreamMedia programming you with their not even 1/2 truth BULLSHIT - it amazes me the METHODS/CONCEPTS they preach to YOU are 'bad' YET jews themselves are FAR MORE GUILTY OF what they preach against than anyone else of them):
Yebamoth 98a: "All children of the goy are animals"
Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
Avodah Zarah 36b: "They decreed connection with a heathen child that it should cause defilement by seminal omission so that an Israelite child should not become accustomed to commit PEDERASTY with him. It is therefore to be concluded that a heathen (non jew) girl from the age of 3 + 1 day for inasmuich as she is then capable of the sexual act she likewise defiles by a flux. This is obvious"
Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaim 14, 20, 32, 33, 39: "A Jew may do to an Non-JEWESS what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat"
Avodah Zarah 37a: "R. Joseph said: Come and hear - a maiden aged 3 years and 1 day may be acquired in marriage by a coition (sex) and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her she becomes his"
Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath KALNIDRA (what they recite on entry into day of atonement that for the next 12 months no oath they make to others MATTERS & can be broken) when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
Nedarim 23b: "He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null'. His vows are then invalid."
Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
Yalhut 245c: "Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice" per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] (one HELL of an INFORMATIVE video that)
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
Choshem Ha'mishpat 425.50: "Everyone who sheds the blood of the NON-JEW (impious) is as acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God"
Midrasch Talpioth page 225 L: "The Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings"
Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
Zohar, Vuyshiah 177b: "Jews may cheat Goys over a bill" etc.
Hadarine 20, B & Schulchan Aruch, Choszem Hamiszpat 34B & Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."
Mas. Shabbath 32b: "On the house of the Goy one looks as on the fold of cattle"
Baba Mazia 114b: "The Goyim are not humans. They are beasts"
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it."
Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."
Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
Zohar, Toldoth Noah 63b & Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean."
Rosh Hashanah 17a: "Christians who reject the Talmud shall go to HELL and be punished there for all generations"
(Like they said Jesus is in HELL boiling in SHIT (excrement) perhaps, per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] & where JEWS literally say "We killed Yeshua and are PROUD of it"?)
Gittin 57a: "Jesus (Jashua) is in HELL boiling in hot excrement"
In the BRIGHTEON link above, they show Jesus as a MONKEY being pounded by a hammer with nails into a cross mocking him.
Mas Yevamoth 61b: "All JEWS will have a part in the future world The Goyim at the end of the world will be handed over to the angel DUMA and sent down to hell"
(AGAIN - Bear in mind that JEWS supplied that material above, not I...)
* RACIST, megalomaniacal, murderous, lying & twisted THIEVES TO THE CORE in Khazar/AshkeNAZI fake jews!
APK
P.S.=> All I can say is "EAT SHIT Synagogue of SATAN" per John in REVELATIONS (where he states "those who say they are jews but are not" more or less in stating what they are in Khazar/AshkeNAZI fake jews who follow the above set of rules from their "book of LAW")... apk
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @07:54PM (21 children)
>> Scientists say pressures on the planet could fall by more than 80% with such foods
You know what else could reduce pressures on the planet? Mandatory birth control for the fast-breeding populations.
(Score: 5, Touché) by DannyB on Monday May 02 2022, @08:32PM (2 children)
The current thing in state legislatures is to (1) eliminate or at least limit access to birth control for poor people, and (2) absolutely eliminate access to abortions.
That will help keep the population under control.
Every life is sacred. Every hungry unfed mouth is sacred.
Therefore let's do absolutely nothing about global problems such as climate change.
How often should I have my memory checked? I used to know but...
(Score: 3, Funny) by krishnoid on Monday May 02 2022, @08:49PM (1 child)
Hell, even that preceeding conception [youtu.be] can be sacred, if you believe Monty Python.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday May 09 2022, @09:15PM
Something is wrong. In a normal pregnancy event, only one sperm fertilized the egg and hundreds of millions of sacred sperm went to waste!
A total waste!
How often should I have my memory checked? I used to know but...
(Score: 2, Disagree) by vux984 on Monday May 02 2022, @08:42PM (14 children)
"You know what else could reduce pressures on the planet? Mandatory birth control for the fast-breeding populations. "
Birth rates are already in steady decline globally thanks to education increases and poverty reductions, and set to drift below replenishment rates globally within a few decades.
Without any additional intervention, with current trends, we will hit peak population mid-century and then start declining.
We are more likely to need to provide people birth-incentives than 'mandatory birth control' in the foreseeable future.
FWIW, IMO, the need to do a mass switch away from meat, and mass birth control projects are both unnecessary. A reduction on overall meat dependency is still a good thing and will help lower methane emissions, reduce the resources needed for global food production, increase food security, and give people with ethical or health issues related to meat more options, give us possible meat solutions for space travel, etc. I'm totally for the research, science, and product development of meat alternatives for the meat question.
And I think its going to be an interesting question how we manage population down the road, if we do need birth incentives, will the goal be to achieve population sustain, or will a slight gradual reduction be preferable (definitely slight and gradual to minimize the economic impact of there not being enough young to support the old), and if so down to what ideal global population will we target. Where we are now? 5 billion? 3 billion? Asimov's solaria settled on 20,000...for some fun sci-fi thought experiments. Food for thought.
(Score: 2) by captain normal on Monday May 02 2022, @09:58PM (9 children)
Maybe birth rates are in decline in some countries, but world wide it's over 8,000,000,000 and climbing. I haven't seen any studies that show a worldwide decline in population.
"It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they have been fooled" Mark Twain
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @10:21PM (2 children)
GP was using Democrat math... you play around with the numbers until you feel good.
(Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @11:10PM
Hey, at least the Dems use math. The Reps go straight for the lie, why bother with math.
(Score: 2) by vux984 on Monday May 02 2022, @11:49PM
I've replied now and provided cites to actual studies. Go ahead and cite studies that contradict what I wrote if you have any.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @11:17PM
Correct. Everything I've read shows the global population increasing, while wealthier and more educated countries are in decline. But, everyone laughs at the 'Great Replacement' conspiracy theory. Ultimately, people of European stock are going to be replaced with, and absorbed by, the more equatorial people.
(Score: 3, Informative) by vux984 on Monday May 02 2022, @11:46PM (4 children)
Birthrates are falling in pretty much all countries including the countries with the highest birthrates.
Where have you looked? I haven't seen any studies that show unbounded growth; pretty much everyone seems to agree that if things continue, we'll peak within a few decades to several decades.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30677-2/fulltext#seccestitle210 [thelancet.com]
Findings
The global TFR in the reference scenario was forecasted to be 1·66 (95% UI 1·33–2·08) in 2100. In the reference scenario, the global population was projected to peak in 2064 at 9·73 billion (8·84–10·9) people and decline to 8·79 billion (6·83–11·8) in 2100.
Other coverage:
https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/news/20200714/global-population-will-peak-by-mid-century [webmd.com]
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2020/07/17/world-population-expected-to-peak-in-just-44-years-as-fertility-rates-sink/?sh=6e8b14b3372a [forbes.com]
The UN officially recognizes a previous study, that suggests the peak will be closer to 2100, but the ultimate conclusion is the same: that it will peak soon.
https://www.un.org/development/desa/en/news/population/world-population-prospects-2019.html [un.org]
Another study from 2001 that reached similar conclusions:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1108-global-population-to-peak-in-2070/ [newscientist.com]
(Score: 5, Informative) by deimtee on Monday May 02 2022, @11:59PM (2 children)
Only people who don't understand evolution think that. The individuals that have offspring at less than replacement will die out and be replaced by individuals that want more kids. It only takes the slightest link between genetics and the desire for kids and evolution will take care of driving it back into population growth.
The current drop in fertility is a short term effect because humans haven't yet adapted to the recent disconnect between sex and reproduction. Evolution took the shortcut of promoting sex and got reproduction for free. Contraception broke that and the species is still adjusting. The current major evolutionary driver of the human race is the desire to have children (as opposed to the historical driver of the desire to have sex).
No problem is insoluble, but at Ksp = 2.943×10−25 Mercury Sulphide comes close.
(Score: 2) by Immerman on Tuesday May 03 2022, @03:26PM (1 child)
Evolution typically takes hundreds if not thousands of generations to make significant changes to a species - a few (tens of) thousands of years will give us plenty of time to adapt, or move into space where planetary limitations don't apply, and we can re-address the question when the population is a trillion times larger and solar system resources begin to be taxed. I suspect though that we'll never grow that far.
Moreover, every species on Earth tends toward replacement-level reproduction within the pressures of their environment - e.g. animals that have many offspring tend to face a lot of threats so that very few (~replacement level = 2 per female ) survive to reproduce in turn.
In environments such as that weird island populated entirely by birds, with no predators? The only environmental stress was the shortages caused overpopulation - and they all evolved to respond to environmental stress by not mating. (To devastating effect when humans brought rats that ate their eggs - a whole lot of them are now endangered. But that's another topic.)
Meanwhile among humans we consistently see that as cultures embrace family planning and birth control (and have sufficient affordable health care that virtually all children survive to adulthood), population growth falls to nearly zero within a single generation, and then trends downwards from there.
Virtually all the populations that are still growing quickly fall into one (or more) well-defined categories:
1) Their culture has no real awareness of modern birth control, so it requires widespread education to introduce the idea of family planning. Ideas which are typically adopted very rapidly. Kids are expensive - most people would rather raise a few well, than a bunch in poverty.
2) Birth control is too expensive to purchase regularly, and there are no shame-free and easy-access programs available.
3) Their are cultural taboos against using birth control (which mostly means Catholics)
Discretion is also important, as husbands and old-fashioned family members may sometimes object to a woman choosing to have a small family.
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Tuesday May 03 2022, @04:10PM
There are basically two types of evolution. The slow creation of new genes by mutation, which would indeed take a long time. But there is also selection within existing variation, which can be very rapid indeed. The second is what will apply here.
There are already people who do want kids. Those who don't want kids will eliminate themselves from the gene pool. It won't be tens of thousands of years, it will be just a few generations. The selection pressure is very strong, and the better and easier contraception gets, the stronger that pressure will get.
Look up the fox breeding experiments in Russia. It took less than 20 generations to turn wild foxes into neotenic domesticated puppies. A change in motivation is much less than what was done to those foxes.
No problem is insoluble, but at Ksp = 2.943×10−25 Mercury Sulphide comes close.
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Tuesday May 03 2022, @02:44AM
Touring the world via Satellite and Streetview is interesting. One example of many:
There are new housing developments east of Cairo that are, far as I can tell, entirely empty. There are also large swaths of old residential areas that have fallen into ruin, and clearly have not been inhabited in decades. You can tell there are no people because there are no cars, and no laundry hanging on the balconies. Where are the people??
Lagos is supposed to be umpteen millions. But the visible infrastructure, never mind the agriculture, can't support anywhere near the number claimed. Rough-count dwellings and arbitrarily assign each a large family and still the count can't be that high. And many dwellings are clearly vacant. This was also true of several other African metros that have pretty good views available. (Was also amused to find that some wag has added streetviews of ...Wakanda... out in the middle of the Congo.)
Conversely some cities are indeed full of people -- and you can tell. Cars on the streets, laundry hung everywhere, shops full of people, but even so sometimes I encountered a group of entirely empty apartment buildings, or a swath of abandoned houses (often half-built but long enough ago to have sand drifted over the building materials.)
So... how accurate ARE the population stats? Consider that foreign aid is paid more or less per head, and that's a huge incentive to overcount. From the visible evidence, I'd guess the total overcount is somewhere around 30%.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 5, Informative) by Thexalon on Tuesday May 03 2022, @03:26AM (3 children)
Why? It seems like a lower population would actually be useful, and people voluntarily not having children via birth control and/or abstinence seems like the most ethical way to accomplish that: Nobody is being forced to either have a kid or not have a kid, kids are on average growing up with parents who want them and are prepared to care for them, parents have friends and childless relatives who they can call on to get help with their kids, it seems all quite nice. As things stand, we appear to be having difficulty feeding, housing, and employing the people that exist, so I don't see fewer people as a cause for alarm. We could lose 2-3% of our population voluntarily for a very long time before the human race would be in any serious danger of disappearing.
The birth control projects are precisely what's getting the population to level out rather than continue to increase. Because it turns out that no matter what public policies you set up, people like to bang, and people banging + no birth control = kids.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by vux984 on Tuesday May 03 2022, @05:24AM (2 children)
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Immerman on Tuesday May 03 2022, @03:43PM (1 child)
Generally speaking, all the trends *are* quite slow - aside from a few outliers like China with its one-child policy, you're usually looking at single-digit % population size reduction per generation. Meanwhile, automation means that we could already support 100% of the population with something like 10-20% employment, and that number is falling rapidly. At this point most of the world is working in non-essential service jobs that people could easily do for themselves, so an aging population isn't nearly the problem it would have been a century or two ago.
The challenge is not in keeping a shrinking population viable, but in adapting the economy to a new reality. The industrial and agricultural revolutions gave us a couple centuries of continuous economic growth, and now everyone is used to thinking of that as normal - but it's completely unprecedented in human history, and cannot realistically be expected to continue. Even our population growth is unprecedented, though it began a bit earlier. Prior to that - archaeological records suggest human population numbers held roughly constant for 10's of thousands of years prior.
Meanwhile, the overwhelming majority of the problems we're facing as a species are due to severely overtaxing the planet - the faster the population shrinks, the easier those problems are to solve. And the more urgent it becomes to overhaul our economic systems.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Tuesday May 03 2022, @04:05PM
Oh, we needn't worry about that! Lord Elon of Musk has a plan: We move to Mars, where he and his fellow billionaires form an absolute ruling class where the rest of us get to beg for a chance to move there as
slave labordebt peonsindentured servantstemporarily indebted workers. And never mind all the currently completely unsolved scientific and technological difficulties of actually surviving on Mars. See? Problem solved! /sThe only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by loic on Tuesday May 03 2022, @02:58PM (1 child)
Why not? I mean, I have already tested various fried insects and it was totally OK. Like a steak, it does not have to look like the actual animal, it can be just a recipe with some insects in it. And to be fair, if you have already eaten processed food, made in a big factory, you have already eaten small bits of insects. Factories are not a magical place where there is zero insect.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 03 2022, @05:06PM
Look up the acceptable quantities of insects and insect parts in processed foods sometime. Everyone has eaten far more than "small bits of insects".
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday May 03 2022, @04:02PM
Good idea, are you going to tell the Christians about this or should I?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by maxwell demon on Monday May 02 2022, @08:06PM (12 children)
The yuck factor is just learned. Ask vegans about their yuck factor of eating dead animals. Western people have a yuck factor of eating dogs, which other cultures don't have. Eating horses has a yuck factor in some, but not all western cultures. What about the yuck factor of eating snails? It's perfectly normal to do so in France. I also think I've heard of cultures where insects are already part of the normal diet; our yuck factor clearly does not apply to them.
Also, I'm sure if you would watch how some of the food you consume daily is made, you'd probably develop a major yuck as well.
The real questions are taste and price. They will become a success if and only if they can compete on those two measures.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @08:27PM (5 children)
Bugs are not popular because they are almost all shell and what isn't shell is guts and crap. This is true for almost all bugs. If bugs had the meat to shell ratio and good flavor of shrimp, you bet most people would eat them.
(Score: 2) by captain normal on Monday May 02 2022, @10:01PM
Err...shrimp are bugs, same as crabs and lobster.
"It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they have been fooled" Mark Twain
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @11:38PM
You're probably right, and also I find them all disgusting.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 03 2022, @03:15AM (2 children)
That insect shell might be crunchy, but it is made entirely of easily digested protein. You humans are actually very well adapted to eating bugs.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 03 2022, @12:13PM (1 child)
Have you ever eaten softshell blue crab?
It's mostly shell, with a little bit of soft insides.
I love eating blue crab the normal way (steamed, just the meat), but I will never eat softshell crab again.
The experience was like eating salted fingernails. Not pleasant, felt like a chore chewing that damned shell. Bugs would be like that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 03 2022, @05:10PM
I didn't say it would be a gourmet delight. I said you were well adapted to eating insects. Virtually every human has all the necessary enzymes and metabolic pathways to use virtually all of an insect. You are far more suited to eating insect than you are to eating dairy or grain.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Mykl on Monday May 02 2022, @08:48PM (2 children)
I would have no problem at all with lab meat. My understanding is that, at the moment, cost is still too high. Eventually they'll be able to land a big contract though (maybe a fast food chain's Chicken Nuggets?) and the scale will bring cost down.
It presents an interesting scenario for the ethical vegetarian - does lab meat count for their purposes, or are hamburgers back on the menu?
(Score: 2) by captain normal on Monday May 02 2022, @10:03PM (1 child)
Isn't most of the food in fast food chains already "lab meat"?
"It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they have been fooled" Mark Twain
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Monday May 02 2022, @10:33PM
Depends on your definition of "lab", I guess [scientificamerican.com]. There's "mechanically separated meat", so I suppose "lab meat" -- just from a mechanical engineering or robotics lab. I'd consider eating "lab meat" maybe a year prior to the rise of the planet of the ... livestock?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by looorg on Monday May 02 2022, @09:58PM (2 children)
Still non of those listed groups are considered to be the norm in western cultures, which is normally what we use as the perspective here or unless otherwise stated (sorry if you are reading this and not in the western world, no offense).
But vegans are not the norm, they are a small fringe group somewhat relative in size depending on "how much" vegan you are as there are some of them that apparently are at different places on the scale. Not all of them doesn't eat real meat due to feeling sorry for the meat-source. Some do it for health reasons, religious reasons etc. Dogs is not a very common western diet, mainly I guess cause dog is considered mans best friend and companion. But in starvation times I think they'll do, most small animals would. The thing about horses always seemed a bit weird, btw it taste great. I don't eat it very often but I have had it a few times. Snails I agree on, never got the whole delight of escargot. But I assume the yuck factor there is mostly cause you associate it with normal snails and those are from what I understand not the once you actually eat.
Taking any of these little fringe groups, some larger then others naturally, is like saying lactose intolerance is the norm. It clearly is in parts of the world. But is it the norm? If I look at the dairy section in the store it certainly isn't the norm. The lactose-free stuff is minuscule compared to the stuff with lactose in it.
But sure Yuck-factor is different for different people. But on a somewhat grander scale here I would assume that most people find eating bugs yucky while eating a dead cow is delicious -- both prepared tho, I don't say eating raw dead cow to be very yummy.
Technically you can probably make anything taste nice if you just add enough suger and spice. So I'm not so sure taste matters in that regard. Or you could just pour enough sauce of some kind on it and it will just taste like that.
But the only thing here that will matter is price. This has to be priced so low to compete I am not sure they'll ever get there. After all I'm not paying real-product-price for fake-product. Are you? So they better then scale the fuck out of this and drive the price down otherwise this will never be more then a fringe product. They have a better shot at getting some kind of nutrition pill or injection that you take daily be a better option then this really. So in that regard I think it's only one point they have to go for -- make it so cheap that the real product becomes a luxury; ok I guess they could also keep the price stable and then just drive the price of real up massively and then it will be cheap by comparison.
But I don't foresee this replacing actual meat anytime soon or probably not in my lifetime.
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Tuesday May 03 2022, @04:55AM (1 child)
Sure. But cultural norms are subject to change.
I don't care abot “real” or “fake”. As long as the replacement tastes as good and is not worse for health, I'll happily pay the same price.
I'm generally avoiding vegan meat-replacements, but not because they are not the “real thing”, but because they are generally much more expensive, while tasting much worse. I'm not going to pay more for less. The day they make a vegan replacement that tastes as good for the same price, I'll happily buy it.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2) by looorg on Tuesday May 03 2022, @12:11PM
They can change. But it's usually slow, very slow. Veganism has been around for a while but have somehow not been able to significantly reduce the meat-eaters. A lot of the reasons more people is probably eating more fruit, vegetables and other such things is probably down to logistics. We just have a lot more choice these days then previous and we can keep certain produce available (almost) year round due to it can always be grown someplace and shipped. It might not be ecologically friendly to do so but I guess that is besides the point.
I agree that you do have a point tho. Yes if the "fake" is the same as the "real" in taste and price I might eat it. It's not that I'm pro-meat just cause it's meat and real. But as long as they remain more expensive and taste "weird" they'll have to make up for that with a lot lower pricing for it to be worth it. But sure if all things are equal then it might not matter. I just don't think that is going to be happening anytime soon.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @08:26PM
Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier).
This WILL be DOWNMOD HIDDEN ("gosh, I wonder by WHOM?" (not)): Yes, even though they are FACTS that the JEWS provide from their own texts no less that are RACIST, murderous, pedophilic and more from THEIR OWN WRITINGS (you name it disgusting)!
Know thy ENEMY + who are the REAL "hate speak" & "racis'" assholes!
Read below, & judge for YOURSELF (not their MainStreamMedia programming you with their not even 1/2 truth BULLSHIT - it amazes me the METHODS/CONCEPTS they preach to YOU are 'bad' YET jews themselves are FAR MORE GUILTY OF what they preach against than anyone else of them):
Yebamoth 98a: "All children of the goy are animals"
Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
Avodah Zarah 36b: "They decreed connection with a heathen child that it should cause defilement by seminal omission so that an Israelite child should not become accustomed to commit PEDERASTY with him. It is therefore to be concluded that a heathen (non jew) girl from the age of 3 + 1 day for inasmuich as she is then capable of the sexual act she likewise defiles by a flux. This is obvious"
Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaim 14, 20, 32, 33, 39: "A Jew may do to an Non-JEWESS what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat"
Avodah Zarah 37a: "R. Joseph said: Come and hear - a maiden aged 3 years and 1 day may be acquired in marriage by a coition (sex) and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her she becomes his"
Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath KALNIDRA (what they recite on entry into day of atonement that for the next 12 months no oath they make to others MATTERS & can be broken) when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
Nedarim 23b: "He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null'. His vows are then invalid."
Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
Yalhut 245c: "Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice" per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] (one HELL of an INFORMATIVE video that)
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
Choshem Ha'mishpat 425.50: "Everyone who sheds the blood of the NON-JEW (impious) is as acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God"
Midrasch Talpioth page 225 L: "The Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings"
Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
Zohar, Vuyshiah 177b: "Jews may cheat Goys over a bill" etc.
Hadarine 20, B & Schulchan Aruch, Choszem Hamiszpat 34B & Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."
Mas. Shabbath 32b: "On the house of the Goy one looks as on the fold of cattle"
Baba Mazia 114b: "The Goyim are not humans. They are beasts"
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it."
Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."
Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
Zohar, Toldoth Noah 63b & Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean."
Rosh Hashanah 17a: "Christians who reject the Talmud shall go to HELL and be punished there for all generations"
(Like they said Jesus is in HELL boiling in SHIT (excrement) perhaps, per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] & where JEWS literally say "We killed Yeshua and are PROUD of it"?)
Gittin 57a: "Jesus (Jashua) is in HELL boiling in hot excrement"
In the BRIGHTEON link above, they show Jesus as a MONKEY being pounded by a hammer with nails into a cross mocking him.
Mas Yevamoth 61b: "All JEWS will have a part in the future world The Goyim at the end of the world will be handed over to the angel DUMA and sent down to hell"
(AGAIN - Bear in mind that JEWS supplied that material above, not I...)
* RACIST, megalomaniacal, murderous, lying & twisted THIEVES TO THE CORE in Khazar/AshkeNAZI fake jews!
APK
P.S.=> All I can say is "EAT SHIT Synagogue of SATAN" per John in REVELATIONS (where he states "those who say they are jews but are not" more or less in stating what they are in Khazar/AshkeNAZI fake jews who follow the above set of rules from their "book of LAW")... apk
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @08:34PM
Personally I think this is the wrong solution for the problem that they want to solve.
Agriculture has many problems, and all of them boil down to overproduction, monoculture and not taking external costs (damage to the environment) into account. Their solution? Add another food-type... which will encounter the same problems once they start upscaling their once-lab-now-factory food.
(Score: 4, Touché) by DannyB on Monday May 02 2022, @08:35PM (1 child)
Make bugs into a cake. For poor people. The proles.
Those in the inner party will still have real food.
If you load it up with
sugarhigh fructose corn syrup, people will eat it.How often should I have my memory checked? I used to know but...
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Monday May 02 2022, @08:50PM
Now *that*'s a dietary axiom for our age.
(Score: 0, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @08:42PM (4 children)
I love how the granolas and vegans complain about GMOs, but expect me to eat ground up insects and lab-grown meat. F that noise.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @08:57PM (1 child)
You have breakfast cereal talking to you, I think you have bigger problems to worry about.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @10:07PM
Looks like the OP has a stickbug up their butt!
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Tuesday May 03 2022, @05:00AM (1 child)
I'm absolutely sure no vegan will ask you to eat insects. Insects are animals, after all.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 1) by shrewdsheep on Tuesday May 03 2022, @07:55AM
Talking to vegans, you will surely be amazed about the mental disconnects to be found.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @08:45PM
Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier).
This WILL be DOWNMOD HIDDEN ("gosh, I wonder by WHOM?" (not)): Yes, even though they are FACTS that the JEWS provide from their own texts no less that are RACIST, murderous, pedophilic and more from THEIR OWN WRITINGS (you name it disgusting)!
Know thy ENEMY + who are the REAL "hate speak" & "racis'" assholes!
Read below, & judge for YOURSELF (not their MainStreamMedia programming you with their not even 1/2 truth BULLSHIT - it amazes me the METHODS/CONCEPTS they preach to YOU are 'bad' YET jews themselves are FAR MORE GUILTY OF what they preach against than anyone else of them):
Yebamoth 98a: "All children of the goy are animals"
Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
Avodah Zarah 36b: "They decreed connection with a heathen child that it should cause defilement by seminal omission so that an Israelite child should not become accustomed to commit PEDERASTY with him. It is therefore to be concluded that a heathen (non jew) girl from the age of 3 + 1 day for inasmuich as she is then capable of the sexual act she likewise defiles by a flux. This is obvious"
Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaim 14, 20, 32, 33, 39: "A Jew may do to an Non-JEWESS what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat"
Avodah Zarah 37a: "R. Joseph said: Come and hear - a maiden aged 3 years and 1 day may be acquired in marriage by a coition (sex) and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her she becomes his"
Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath KALNIDRA (what they recite on entry into day of atonement that for the next 12 months no oath they make to others MATTERS & can be broken) when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
Nedarim 23b: "He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null'. His vows are then invalid."
Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
Yalhut 245c: "Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice" per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] (one HELL of an INFORMATIVE video that)
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
Choshem Ha'mishpat 425.50: "Everyone who sheds the blood of the NON-JEW (impious) is as acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God"
Midrasch Talpioth page 225 L: "The Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings"
Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
Zohar, Vuyshiah 177b: "Jews may cheat Goys over a bill" etc.
Hadarine 20, B & Schulchan Aruch, Choszem Hamiszpat 34B & Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."
Mas. Shabbath 32b: "On the house of the Goy one looks as on the fold of cattle"
Baba Mazia 114b: "The Goyim are not humans. They are beasts"
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it."
Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."
Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
Zohar, Toldoth Noah 63b & Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean."
Rosh Hashanah 17a: "Christians who reject the Talmud shall go to HELL and be punished there for all generations"
(Like they said Jesus is in HELL boiling in SHIT (excrement) perhaps, per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] & where JEWS literally say "We killed Yeshua and are PROUD of it"?)
Gittin 57a: "Jesus (Jashua) is in HELL boiling in hot excrement"
In the BRIGHTEON link above, they show Jesus as a MONKEY being pounded by a hammer with nails into a cross mocking him.
Mas Yevamoth 61b: "All JEWS will have a part in the future world The Goyim at the end of the world will be handed over to the angel DUMA and sent down to hell"
(AGAIN - Bear in mind that JEWS supplied that material above, not I...)
* RACIST, megalomaniacal, murderous, lying & twisted THIEVES TO THE CORE in Khazar/AshkeNAZI fake jews!
APK
P.S.=> All I can say is "EAT SHIT Synagogue of SATAN" per John in REVELATIONS (where he states "those who say they are jews but are not" more or less in stating what they are in Khazar/AshkeNAZI fake jews who follow the above set of rules from their "book of LAW")... apk
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @08:55PM
Go on, they're good for you. I'm going to kick back and have a burger (homemade of course).
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Monday May 02 2022, @09:05PM (6 children)
My understanding is that the carbon footprint of eating anything roughly larger than an adult Labrador retriever is the biggest issue when it comes to animal flesh. I thought chicken, fish, et al already had a much smaller carbon footprint. Although I suppose it comes down to birthrates [nau.edu].
(Score: 3, Informative) by deimtee on Tuesday May 03 2022, @03:23AM (2 children)
It's more about lifespan than size. Chickens and fish grow to size in a few months, cows take a couple of years. While they are growing you have to supply food at their conversion ratio, but you also have to supply their base metabolism. This is an ongoing cost sink over the life of the animal. Because they take longer to grow to size bigger animals ultimately cost more per kg. If you could grow a cow to full size in three months it would be as cheap as chicken.
No problem is insoluble, but at Ksp = 2.943×10−25 Mercury Sulphide comes close.
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Tuesday May 03 2022, @03:52AM (1 child)
Point taken, but if you could grow a cow to full size in three months, I can't imagine how bad the overgrazing would be.
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Tuesday May 03 2022, @05:22AM
I'm sure they're working on it. (The three month cow, not the overgrazing)
No problem is insoluble, but at Ksp = 2.943×10−25 Mercury Sulphide comes close.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by ElizabethGreene on Tuesday May 03 2022, @08:48PM (2 children)
There are a lot of variables that go into that equation, and some of them can be tweaked to make eco-green beef if that's the goal. I'm specifically thinking about grass raised and finished mass intensive grazing beef. They are surprisingly carbon negative when you factor in how much they push back into the soil.
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Friday May 06 2022, @08:11AM (1 child)
In AU you would have to go looking to find non-grass fed beef. Every so often someone tries to advertise "grain fed" like it's a big selling point. It doesn't work, aussies mostly think the grass fed tastes better, it's healthier, and it's cheaper. We have so much marginal farming land pasture for cows is cheaper than feeding them on valuable grain.
No problem is insoluble, but at Ksp = 2.943×10−25 Mercury Sulphide comes close.
(Score: 2) by ElizabethGreene on Friday May 06 2022, @03:14PM
It used to be that way in the US too, but the USDA standardized the grades based on the thickness of the subdermal fat coating at slaughter and the price premium is high enough that grain finished beef is the rule.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday May 02 2022, @10:03PM (2 children)
As far as I've seen, insects are either emergency food or exotic food. Everyday cuisine, not so much. Unless you're so poor that you can't find anything else.
Kiddo and Wife have been enjoying watching / choosing the path in the new "You vs Wild" series on Netflix. In the event that I was making bank like Bear Grylls, I could probably stomach a grub or two. Otherwise, you can keep your grubs, flies, crickets, etc. I'll have my salad and tofu.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 3, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 02 2022, @11:24PM (1 child)
Grubs. When I hoe the garden, the chickens gobble those grubs up. I feel no need to fight over chicken feed, let the birds have them. I might eat one of the birds now and then, but I'm not eating their feed.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday May 03 2022, @01:58PM
Sounds reasonable to me. Parents have some chickens they raise for the eggs. They eat all kinds of left overs and random things the grandkids toss to them.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @10:03PM
Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier).
This WILL be DOWNMOD HIDDEN ("gosh, I wonder by WHOM?" (not)): Yes, even though they are FACTS that the JEWS provide from their own texts no less that are RACIST, murderous, pedophilic and more from THEIR OWN WRITINGS (you name it disgusting)!
Know thy ENEMY + who are the REAL "hate speak" & "racis'" assholes!
Read below, & judge for YOURSELF (not their MainStreamMedia programming you with their not even 1/2 truth BULLSHIT - it amazes me the METHODS/CONCEPTS they preach to YOU are 'bad' YET jews themselves are FAR MORE GUILTY OF what they preach against than anyone else of them):
Yebamoth 98a: "All children of the goy are animals"
Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
Avodah Zarah 36b: "They decreed connection with a heathen child that it should cause defilement by seminal omission so that an Israelite child should not become accustomed to commit PEDERASTY with him. It is therefore to be concluded that a heathen (non jew) girl from the age of 3 + 1 day for inasmuich as she is then capable of the sexual act she likewise defiles by a flux. This is obvious"
Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaim 14, 20, 32, 33, 39: "A Jew may do to an Non-JEWESS what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat"
Avodah Zarah 37a: "R. Joseph said: Come and hear - a maiden aged 3 years and 1 day may be acquired in marriage by a coition (sex) and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her she becomes his"
Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath KALNIDRA (what they recite on entry into day of atonement that for the next 12 months no oath they make to others MATTERS & can be broken) when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
Nedarim 23b: "He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null'. His vows are then invalid."
Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
Yalhut 245c: "Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice" per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] (one HELL of an INFORMATIVE video that)
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
Choshem Ha'mishpat 425.50: "Everyone who sheds the blood of the NON-JEW (impious) is as acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God"
Midrasch Talpioth page 225 L: "The Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings"
Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
Zohar, Vuyshiah 177b: "Jews may cheat Goys over a bill" etc.
Hadarine 20, B & Schulchan Aruch, Choszem Hamiszpat 34B & Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."
Mas. Shabbath 32b: "On the house of the Goy one looks as on the fold of cattle"
Baba Mazia 114b: "The Goyim are not humans. They are beasts"
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it."
Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."
Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
Zohar, Toldoth Noah 63b & Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean."
Rosh Hashanah 17a: "Christians who reject the Talmud shall go to HELL and be punished there for all generations"
(Like they said Jesus is in HELL boiling in SHIT (excrement) perhaps, per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] & where JEWS literally say "We killed Yeshua and are PROUD of it"?)
Gittin 57a: "Jesus (Jashua) is in HELL boiling in hot excrement"
In the BRIGHTEON link above, they show Jesus as a MONKEY being pounded by a hammer with nails into a cross mocking him.
Mas Yevamoth 61b: "All JEWS will have a part in the future world The Goyim at the end of the world will be handed over to the angel DUMA and sent down to hell"
(AGAIN - Bear in mind that JEWS supplied that material above, not I...)
* RACIST, megalomaniacal, murderous, lying & twisted THIEVES TO THE CORE in Khazar/AshkeNAZI fake jews!
APK
P.S.=> All I can say is "EAT SHIT Synagogue of SATAN" per John in REVELATIONS (where he states "those who say they are jews but are not" more or less in stating what they are in Khazar/AshkeNAZI fake jews who follow the above set of rules from their "book of LAW")... apk
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @10:23PM (1 child)
Eating lab grown meat or insects or worms, that's only a matter of how hungry you are.
The problem is: the system wants to own your food.
So, they will enact, oh sorry I mean keep enacting all possible measures to drive current producers out of the market.
They will continue to push the ecologic narrative. You know, those who destroyed the former balance with the industrial revolution, the balance in which people ate organic food made by indefinitely sustainable processes was replaced by chemicals stripping the soil bare slowly poisoning eaters and tons of useless packaging. THEY now finish the job of killing small producers because they are not green enough. Green as the bureaucracy says.
Once they own your food they can price you out of existence. They won't because they are the good guys? sure, bet your life on Greta and friends. Good luck.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @10:27PM
You real crazy, maybe you should join a hippy farm commune, will help your mental state and you can enjoy working to ensure your nutritional freedom!
(Score: 2) by istartedi on Monday May 02 2022, @10:26PM (4 children)
I'm willing to wager that if we simply reduced meat consumption per capita to the level it was at 100 years ago [www.good.is], we'd accomplish the same goals without holding people down and force-feeding them lab chemicals and bugs.
It's interesting to note that according to the linked chart, beef consumption has already begun to do that while chicken consumption remains rather high. A century ago, you didn't kill the chicken until it stopped laying. It was a rare treat. If we get back to that mentality, we'll have fewer factor farms, and probably better health outcome. We might get better chickens too, as allegedly the old chickens were more flavorful. Let the chickens eat the bugs. Let people eat less meat, more vegetables, and cut back on all this highly processed crap.
Appended to the end of comments you post. Max: 120 chars.
(Score: 2) by requerdanos on Monday May 02 2022, @11:16PM
Indeed, TFA, alongside the earth-shaking bugs-and-labfood conclusion, also reaches the conclusion that
(Score: 2) by Joe Desertrat on Tuesday May 03 2022, @12:39AM (2 children)
Unfortunately, too many people seem brainwashed to think that flavorful means either salt, fat or sugar, with natural flavors bred out of existence. A chicken that tastes a bit more like a wild bird? Ugh! That doesn't taste like chicken! A fish that doesn't taste like a fish stick? Ugh! That doesn't taste like fish! And so on...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 03 2022, @07:45PM (1 child)
Old chickens are tough though. You stew an old birth to tenderize it. Chickens are, as others have said, very, very efficient to grow. They are resource efficient.
(Score: 2) by ElizabethGreene on Tuesday May 03 2022, @08:41PM
Mass produced chickens, e.g. Tyson, regularly beat a 2:1 feed conversion ratio. It's pretty impressive.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @10:40PM
Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier).
This WILL be DOWNMOD HIDDEN ("gosh, I wonder by WHOM?" (not)): Yes, even though they are FACTS that the JEWS provide from their own texts no less that are RACIST, murderous, pedophilic and more from THEIR OWN WRITINGS (you name it disgusting)!
Know thy ENEMY + who are the REAL "hate speak" & "racis'" assholes!
Read below, & judge for YOURSELF (not their MainStreamMedia programming you with their not even 1/2 truth BULLSHIT - it amazes me the METHODS/CONCEPTS they preach to YOU are 'bad' YET jews themselves are FAR MORE GUILTY OF what they preach against than anyone else of them):
Yebamoth 98a: "All children of the goy are animals"
Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
Avodah Zarah 36b: "They decreed connection with a heathen child that it should cause defilement by seminal omission so that an Israelite child should not become accustomed to commit PEDERASTY with him. It is therefore to be concluded that a heathen (non jew) girl from the age of 3 + 1 day for inasmuich as she is then capable of the sexual act she likewise defiles by a flux. This is obvious"
Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaim 14, 20, 32, 33, 39: "A Jew may do to an Non-JEWESS what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat"
Avodah Zarah 37a: "R. Joseph said: Come and hear - a maiden aged 3 years and 1 day may be acquired in marriage by a coition (sex) and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her she becomes his"
Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath KALNIDRA (what they recite on entry into day of atonement that for the next 12 months no oath they make to others MATTERS & can be broken) when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
Nedarim 23b: "He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null'. His vows are then invalid."
Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
Yalhut 245c: "Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice" per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] (one HELL of an INFORMATIVE video that)
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
Choshem Ha'mishpat 425.50: "Everyone who sheds the blood of the NON-JEW (impious) is as acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God"
(Like they said Jesus is in HELL boiling in SHIT (excrement) next below, perhaps, per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] & where JEWS literally say "We killed Yeshua and are PROUD of it"?Gittin 57a: "Jesus (Jashua) is in HELL boiling in hot excrement"
Midrasch Talpioth page 225 L: "The Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings"
Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
Zohar, Vuyshiah 177b: "Jews may cheat Goys over a bill" etc.
Hadarine 20, B & Schulchan Aruch, Choszem Hamiszpat 34B & Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."
Mas. Shabbath 32b: "On the house of the Goy one looks as on the fold of cattle"
Baba Mazia 114b: "The Goyim are not humans. They are beasts"
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it."
Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."
Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
Zohar, Toldoth Noah 63b & Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean."
Rosh Hashanah 17a: "Christians who reject the Talmud shall go to HELL and be punished there for all generations"
In the BRIGHTEON link above, they show Jesus as a MONKEY being pounded by a hammer with nails into a cross mocking him.
Mas Yevamoth 61b: "All JEWS will have a part in the future world The Goyim at the end of the world will be handed over to the angel DUMA and sent down to hell"
(AGAIN - Bear in mind that JEWS supplied that material above, not I...)
* RACIST, megalomaniacal, murderous, lying & twisted THIEVES TO THE CORE in Khazar/AshkeNAZI fake jews!
APK
P.S.=> All I can say is "EAT SHIT Synagogue of SATAN" per John in REVELATIONS (where he states "those who say they are jews but are not" more or less in stating what they are in Khazar/AshkeNAZI fake jews who follow the above set of rules from their "book of LAW")... apk
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @11:11PM
Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier).
This WILL be DOWNMOD HIDDEN ("gosh, I wonder by WHOM?" (not)): Yes, even though they are FACTS that the JEWS provide from their own texts no less that are RACIST, murderous, pedophilic and more from THEIR OWN WRITINGS (you name it disgusting)!
Know thy ENEMY + who are the REAL "hate speak" & "racis'" assholes that yell "antisemitism" YET THEY ARE NOT SEMITIC @ all in AshkeNAZI/Khazar FAKE JEWS!
Read below, & judge for YOURSELF (not their MainStreamMedia programming you with their not even 1/2 truth BULLSHIT - it amazes me the METHODS/CONCEPTS they preach to YOU are 'bad' YET jews themselves are FAR MORE GUILTY OF what they preach against than anyone else of them):
Yebamoth 98a: "All children of the goy are animals"
Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
Avodah Zarah 36b: "They decreed connection with a heathen child that it should cause defilement by seminal omission so that an Israelite child should not become accustomed to commit PEDERASTY with him. It is therefore to be concluded that a heathen (non jew) girl from the age of 3 + 1 day for inasmuich as she is then capable of the sexual act she likewise defiles by a flux. This is obvious"
Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaim 14, 20, 32, 33, 39: "A Jew may do to an Non-JEWESS what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat"
Avodah Zarah 37a: "R. Joseph said: Come and hear - a maiden aged 3 years and 1 day may be acquired in marriage by a coition (sex) and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her she becomes his"
Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath KALNIDRA (what they recite on entry into day of atonement that for the next 12 months no oath they make to others MATTERS & can be broken) when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
Nedarim 23b: "He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null'. His vows are then invalid."
Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
Yalhut 245c: "Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice" per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] (one HELL of an INFORMATIVE video that)
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
Choshem Ha'mishpat 425.50: "Everyone who sheds the blood of the NON-JEW (impious) is as acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God"
(Like they said Jesus is in HELL boiling in SHIT (excrement) next below, perhaps, per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] & where JEWS literally say "We killed Yeshua and are PROUD of it"?Gittin 57a: "Jesus (Jashua) is in HELL boiling in hot excrement"
Midrasch Talpioth page 225 L: "The Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings"
Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
Zohar, Vuyshiah 177b: "Jews may cheat Goys over a bill" etc.
Hadarine 20, B & Schulchan Aruch, Choszem Hamiszpat 34B & Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."
Mas. Shabbath 32b: "On the house of the Goy one looks as on the fold of cattle"
Baba Mazia 114b: "The Goyim are not humans. They are beasts"
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it."
Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."
Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
Zohar, Toldoth Noah 63b & Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean."
Rosh Hashanah 17a: "Christians who reject the Talmud shall go to HELL and be punished there for all generations"
In the BRIGHTEON link above, they show Jesus as a MONKEY being pounded by a hammer with nails into a cross mocking him.
Mas Yevamoth 61b: "All JEWS will have a part in the future world The Goyim at the end of the world will be handed over to the angel DUMA and sent down to hell"
(AGAIN - Bear in mind that JEWS supplied that material above, not I...)
* RACIST, megalomaniacal, murderous, lying & twisted THIEVES TO THE CORE in Khazar/AshkeNAZI fake jews!
APK
P.S.=> All I can say is "EAT SHIT Synagogue of SATAN" per John in REVELATIONS (where he states "those who say they are jews but are not" more or less in stating what they are in Khazar/AshkeNAZI fake jews who follow the above set of rules from their "book of LAW")... apk
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 02 2022, @11:24PM
Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier).
This WILL be DOWNMOD HIDDEN ("gosh, I wonder by WHOM?" (not)): Yes, even though they are FACTS that the JEWS provide from their own texts no less that are RACIST, murderous, pedophilic and more from THEIR OWN WRITINGS (you name it disgusting)!
Know thy ENEMY + who are the REAL "hate speak" & "racis'" assholes that yell "antisemitism" YET THEY ARE NOT SEMITIC @ all in AshkeNAZI/Khazar FAKE JEWS!
Read below, & judge for YOURSELF (not their MainStreamMedia programming you with their not even 1/2 truth BULLSHIT - it amazes me the METHODS/CONCEPTS they preach to YOU are 'bad' YET jews themselves are FAR MORE GUILTY OF what they preach against than anyone else of them):
Yebamoth 98a: "All children of the goy are animals"
Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
Avodah Zarah 36b: "They decreed connection with a heathen child that it should cause defilement by seminal omission so that an Israelite child should not become accustomed to commit PEDERASTY with him. It is therefore to be concluded that a heathen (non jew) girl from the age of 3 + 1 day for inasmuich as she is then capable of the sexual act she likewise defiles by a flux. This is obvious"
Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaim 14, 20, 32, 33, 39: "A Jew may do to an Non-JEWESS what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat"
Avodah Zarah 37a: "R. Joseph said: Come and hear - a maiden aged 3 years and 1 day may be acquired in marriage by a coition (sex) and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her she becomes his"
Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath KALNIDRA (what they recite on entry into day of atonement that for the next 12 months no oath they make to others MATTERS & can be broken) when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
Nedarim 23b: "He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null'. His vows are then invalid."
Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
Yalhut 245c: "Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice" per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] (one HELL of an INFORMATIVE video that)
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
Choshem Ha'mishpat 425.50: "Everyone who sheds the blood of the NON-JEW (impious) is as acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God"
(Like they said Jesus is in HELL boiling in SHIT (excrement) next below, perhaps, per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] & where JEWS literally say "We killed Yeshua and are PROUD of it"? & that's JESUS CHRIST = Yeshua)
Gittin 57a: "Jesus (Jashua) is in HELL boiling in hot excrement"
Midrasch Talpioth page 225 L: "The Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings"
Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
Zohar, Vuyshiah 177b: "Jews may cheat Goys over a bill" etc.
Hadarine 20, B & Schulchan Aruch, Choszem Hamiszpat 34B & Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."
Mas. Shabbath 32b: "On the house of the Goy one looks as on the fold of cattle"
Baba Mazia 114b: "The Goyim are not humans. They are beasts"
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it."
Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."
Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
Zohar, Toldoth Noah 63b & Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean."
Rosh Hashanah 17a: "Christians who reject the Talmud shall go to HELL and be punished there for all generations"
In the BRIGHTEON link above, they show Jesus as a MONKEY being pounded by a hammer with nails into a cross mocking him.
Mas Yevamoth 61b: "All JEWS will have a part in the future world The Goyim at the end of the world will be handed over to the angel DUMA and sent down to hell"
(AGAIN - Bear in mind that JEWS supplied that material above, not I...)
* RACIST, megalomaniacal, murderous, lying & twisted THIEVES TO THE CORE in Khazar/AshkeNAZI fake jews!
APK
P.S.=> All I can say is "EAT SHIT Synagogue of SATAN" per John in REVELATIONS (where he states "those who say they are jews but are not" more or less in stating what they are in Khazar/AshkeNAZI fake jews who follow the above set of rules from their "book of LAW")... apk
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 03 2022, @12:07AM (1 child)
My yuck factor is that I have no idea where the fuck I can get a lab grown steak. I would like to eat one. I've had bugs, and I like bugs. I'm an omnivore, so I eat many things, and I like many things.
However, I'm not going to pay more for an clean ethical lab steak than a pollution, death and misery steak. Cost has also prevented me from making a bugs a regular part of my diet.
All that these sorts of articles amount to is conservative FUD. The boosways want you to BE AFRAID of doing anything about AGW. You can't actually buy the shit the article claims is so much cheaper (or will be around the time the world switches to fusion power--about 20 years), they just want you to BE AFRAID. And if they tell you enough times that it's disgusting, then you will believe it's disgusting, worse even than green eggs and ham, and since we can't actually try it, well, it's disgusting because the idiot box hynotically NLPed us to believe it's disgusting!
(Score: 2) by ElizabethGreene on Tuesday May 03 2022, @08:38PM
What kind of bugs do you like? Buying oats from the coop my cost for mealworms was negligible.
I want to try growing black soldier fly larvae, but I have some resistance to the idea of eating them after they crawl out of a pile of garbage. That probably means I just haven't gotten hungry enough.