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posted by hubie on Tuesday May 31 2022, @10:41PM   Printer-friendly

Geology from 50 Light-Years: Webb Gets Ready to Study Rocky Worlds:

With its mirror segments beautifully aligned and its scientific instruments undergoing calibration, NASA's James Webb Space Telescope is just weeks away from full operation. Soon after the first observations are revealed this summer, Webb's in-depth science will begin.

Among the investigations planned for the first year are studies of two hot exoplanets classified as "super-Earths" for their size and rocky composition: the lava-covered 55 Cancri e and the airless LHS 3844 b. Researchers will train Webb's high-precision spectrographs on these planets with a view to understanding the geologic diversity of planets across the galaxy, and the evolution of rocky planets like Earth.

55 Cancri e orbits less than 1.5 million miles from its Sun-like star (one twenty-fifth of the distance between Mercury and the Sun), completing one circuit in less than 18 hours. With surface temperatures far above the melting point of typical rock-forming minerals, the day side of the planet is thought to be covered in oceans of lava.

[...] Like 55 Cancri e, LHS 3844 b orbits extremely close to its star, completing one revolution in 11 hours. However, because its star is relatively small and cool, the planet is not hot enough for the surface to be molten. Additionally, Spitzer observations indicate that the planet is very unlikely to have a substantial atmosphere.

[...] These observations of 55 Cancri e and LHS 3844 b will be conducted as part of Webb's Cycle 1 General Observers program. General Observers programs were competitively selected using a dual-anonymous review system, the same system used to allocate time on Hubble.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 01 2022, @03:26AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 01 2022, @03:26AM (#1249344)

    Put out the images.

    For buddha's sake, with all the hype, yous must have got the best EM shots of these .... far-away things. Put them out, the raw and embelished. Put them out.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 01 2022, @01:29PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 01 2022, @01:29PM (#1249426)

    Wait! what?

    Sure these are useful in the spectrum of creating our Geological dataset, but lava-covered??? Airless???
    These are the first things we are going to point at?
    What did I miss here, are we not looking for "habitable" worlds?
    Does it not make more sense to focus on Atmosphere or worlds in the Goldielocks Zone?

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by FatPhil on Wednesday June 01 2022, @01:57PM (5 children)

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Wednesday June 01 2022, @01:57PM (#1249432) Homepage
      Because that's precisely not what JWST is designed to do. JWST is designed to look deeper into the infrared than Hubble. This lets it see deeper into distant space, and therefore distant time. It also lets it see more clearly through some dust clouds that obscure regions of star and planet formation. These first few mini-projects aren't the real science, they are basically warm-up exercises before the real stuff begins.
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      • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday June 01 2022, @02:04PM (2 children)

        by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Wednesday June 01 2022, @02:04PM (#1249435) Homepage
        From the link last in the summary (needs either JS, or disabling CSS, to render)
        """
        The Cycle 1 General Observers (GO) program provides the worldwide astronomical community with the first extensive opportunity to make observations with JWST. Approximately 6,000 hours were awarded to observing programs using the full suite of JWST instrumentation. Scientists also proposed for archival analysis of data from DD ERS programs and public GTO programs, theoretical investigations, and the development of software tools relevant to JWST observations. Science observations will begin following a 6-month commissioning period after launch.
        """
        This one is:
        """
        1952 [https://www.stsci.edu/jwst/science-execution/program-information.html?id=1952]
                  Determining the Atmospheric Composition of the Super-Earth 55 Cancri e PI: Renyu Hu 12 15.4 NIRCam/GTS MIRI/LRS GO
        """

        It's literally got only 15.4 hours of sensor time devoted to it. This is really really really not JWST's dayjob.
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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 01 2022, @08:39PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 01 2022, @08:39PM (#1249536)

          One thing I haven't thought to check is whether multiple sensors can be used at the same time.

          • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday June 02 2022, @07:22AM

            by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Thursday June 02 2022, @07:22AM (#1249651) Homepage
            They can't - they have to be moved into the focal zone, used, and then back out again to let the next one have its turn.
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      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 02 2022, @03:16AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 02 2022, @03:16AM (#1249606)

        I believe looking at exoplanet atmospheres is one of its stated mission goals. Chemical identification is much easier to do in the infrared wavelengths where there are a lot more spectral absorption lines per compound than there are in the visible wavelengths.

        • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday June 02 2022, @07:43AM

          by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Thursday June 02 2022, @07:43AM (#1249654) Homepage
          Yup, one of the 25 DRM projects was in part to do with exoplanet classification, and another was something to do with exoplanets that had already be classified. The however, main interest in planets was formation thereof. And planets were only about fifth of the original DRM. So you're kinda right, but it's a small bit of a small bit.
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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 02 2022, @07:13AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 02 2022, @07:13AM (#1249649)

      It would make sense to look at those, except all the searches to find some came up empty. So they are looking at the ones that are scientifically interesting instead.

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