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posted by janrinok on Saturday June 04 2022, @12:18PM   Printer-friendly
from the shocking-new-cologne-called-eel-on-musk dept.

Phys.org
How electric fish were able to evolve electric organs

Electric organs help electric fish, such as the electric eel, do all sorts of amazing things: They send and receive signals that are akin to bird songs, helping them to recognize other electric fish by species, sex and even individual. A new study in Science Advances explains how small genetic changes enabled electric fish to evolve electric organs. The finding might also help scientists pinpoint the genetic mutations behind some human diseases.

Evolution took advantage of a quirk of fish genetics to develop electric organs. All fish have duplicate versions of the same gene that produces tiny muscle motors, called sodium channels. To evolve electric organs, electric fish turned off one duplicate of the sodium channel gene in muscles and turned it on in other cells. The tiny motors that typically make muscles contract were repurposed to generate electric signals, and voila! A new organ with some astonishing capabilities was born.

[....] researchers from UT Austin and Michigan State University describe discovering a short section of this sodium channel gene—about 20 letters long—that controls whether the gene is expressed in any given cell. They confirmed that in electric fish, this control region is either altered or entirely missing. And that's why one of the two sodium channel genes is turned off in the muscles of electric fish.

[....] "This control region is in most vertebrates, including humans," Zakon said. "So, the next step in terms of human health would be to examine this region in databases of human genes to see how much variation there is in normal people and whether some deletions or mutations in this region could lead to a lowered expression of sodium channels, which might result in disease."

[....] Zakon said the sodium channel gene had to be turned off in muscle before an electric organ could evolve.

"If they turned on the gene in both muscle and the electric organ, then all the new stuff that was happening to the sodium channels in the electric organ would also be occurring in the muscle," Zakon said. "So, it was important to isolate the expression of the gene to the electric organ, where it could evolve without harming muscle."

[....] "If you rewound the tape of life and hit play, would it play back the same way or would it find new ways forward? Would evolution work the same way over and over again?" said Gallant, who breeds the electric fish from South America that were used in part of the study.

It is shocking that electric organs are not only for musicians.

More information: Sarah LaPotin et al, Divergent cis-regulatory evolution underlies the convergent loss of sodium channel expression in electric fish, Science Advances (2022). DOI: 10.1126/sciadv.abm2970 or www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abm2970

Journal information: Science Advances


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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by Gaaark on Saturday June 04 2022, @02:43PM (3 children)

    by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 04 2022, @02:43PM (#1250494) Journal

    It is shocking that electric organs are not only for musicians.

    They're for horny women, too!

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    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Saturday June 04 2022, @04:36PM (1 child)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 04 2022, @04:36PM (#1250507) Journal

      The organ donor card said nothing about that.

      Donate:
      [x] pipe
      [_] synthesized
      [_] harmonica

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @12:52AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @12:52AM (#1250581)

      I think they could have squeezed in one more pun about electric organs. I almost missed the first three.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Gaaark on Saturday June 04 2022, @02:46PM (3 children)

    by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 04 2022, @02:46PM (#1250495) Journal

    Could this be used to make a real 'meat/muscle' pace maker?

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @03:07PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @03:07PM (#1250497)

      Go for it!

      Brainstorming--one way to start is to develop an "organ" that generates enough power (biologically) to meet the average power demands of an existing pacemaker, store in a super capacitor (near-infinite lifetime). No more need for operations every ~10 years to change the pacemaker battery. Later developments could work toward doing the whole job biologically.

      I have no idea if it could work, but I'll bet there are VCs out there who would fund it.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @03:56PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @03:56PM (#1250504)

        I'm s bit surprised they don't just install some means of induction charging.

        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Saturday June 04 2022, @04:38PM

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 04 2022, @04:38PM (#1250508) Journal

          Rechargeable batteries still wear out. Right when you need them most.

          At least, that's what she said.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by maxwell demon on Saturday June 04 2022, @02:51PM (3 children)

    by maxwell demon (1608) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 04 2022, @02:51PM (#1250496) Journal

    "This control region is in most vertebrates, including humans," Zakon said.

    That suggests an interesting science fiction scenario: Genetically modified policemen with tasers as natural part of their body.

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    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @03:10PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @03:10PM (#1250498)

      Adds a whole new meaning to "laying on of hands" too, once the religious nuts get theirs.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Saturday June 04 2022, @03:26PM

      by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 04 2022, @03:26PM (#1250500) Journal

      "I can't breathe....... but you DID jump-start my heart with your knee!"

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @12:02AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @12:02AM (#1250571)

      Genetically modified policemen with tasers as natural part of their body.

      I say let it to Marvel's dumb collection of superheroes. Oh, wait...

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @03:24PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @03:24PM (#1250499)

    do the fish get a shock themselfs?
    like sitting on a pedalton w/ dynamo and connecting the leads to the one pedaling?
    or is person throwing the absolute last switch to turn on a nuke reactor immune to the radiation it produces?

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @12:11AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @12:11AM (#1250573)

      do the fish get a shock themselfs?

      They do [forbes.com] and sometimes they die of it, unless they take special care when they trigger.

      Most of the electric eels’ organs are located in a very small region anterior to their tails. The electrical (eelectrical?) potential of the electric eel varies along the tail. Sometimes electric current passes through its vital organs, then the electric eel dies.

      An electric current through their heart will kill them instantly. So they have to be very careful. However, accidents occur anyway.

      They reduce the danger to themselves by flexing their bodies in a shape that prevents the electric current from passing through their heart. When they are charging up, they stiffen into a line segment very much like a straightedge. This way, the electric current only runs parallel to their tail and behind the heart. Sometimes, when charging, they fold into a U-shape. This provides the greatest current density that they can achieve in their prey, which is near the end of the U. However, their heads have to be positioned just slightly beyond the distal end of their tail. One slight miscalculation and zap!

      If they are in a tight place, then it is not easy to move around safely. So they generally don’t charge folded up in a tight space. When several of them are squeezed together in a tight place, like when their pond starts to drain, one has no way to tell how the others are oriented. So if one feels endangered and charges up in a panic, he can electrocute the whole school and himself.

      Electric eels shocking themselves have been observed both in nature and in aquariums. It doesn’t happen too often, of course. However, with great power comes great responsibility. Electric eels have to be very careful about themselves and other electric eels!

      The male electric eel watches over his fry. The fry avoid electrocution by staying near and sometimes in the electric eels mouth. So the fry and the father communicate to the fry. The father and his offspring communicate through electrical pulses. So the fry know the safest place to be when daddy is cooking up some chow. He also tells them where to go.

      Daddy never swallows the children. When the family pod is threatened, the children hide in his mouth. Which is really the safest place to go when he lets it rip.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @07:31PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @07:31PM (#1250762)
        Need more scientific backing for those claims though. Someone on the Internet saying stuff on Quora doesn't mean it's true.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 07 2022, @02:31PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 07 2022, @02:31PM (#1251271)

          BS. Quora is the golden standard for answers now in the 2000s and it always will be

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @11:21PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @11:21PM (#1250562)

    How to turn off this gene in shiny metal robots?

    Asking for a friend.

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